User talk:Annesobol

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Hello, Annesobol, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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I put a COI declaration in, I think! Do you think I'm disqualified from pursuing Richard B. Sobol American civil rights lawyer? I'm spending quite a lot of time on this and if it's going to be fruitless I'd like to know. Annesobol (talk) 17:15, 24 May 2021 (UTC)Annesobol[reply]

I am sorry to hear of your loss. You are not disqualified from submitting a draft to be reviewed by an independent editor- but I will caution you that it will not be an easy process and that many editors that are unconnected with their subjects become frustrated and upset by the process. I don't want to see that happen to you. I will inform you that reviewers will likely look at it as dispassionately as possible, and may sound harsh, but will not mean it that way. It looks like someone has assisted you by moving the draft to a better title(Draft:Richard B. Sobol) and providing the means through which you can submit it. Before you submit it, I would suggest that you review Your First Article for specific information as to what will be looked for. 331dot (talk) 17:41, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Want to put in some footnotes with citations, but after pulling up the draft by putting this in url https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Richard_B._Sobol, I'm not able to edit this draft. Also, have been encouraged to write five sentences with citations as an exercise in producing an article that meets wiki standards, but not clear where I would post that. Any help appreciated.Annesobol (talk) 15:26, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Annesobol[reply]

I found how to edit the draft.Annesobol (talk) 15:29, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Annesobol[reply]

Please set aside for the moment the correctness of my cite and focus only on what I tried and failed to do. (1) I tried to insert a fn that explained that in Louisiana counties are called parishes. (2) I thought I'd see if I got a better reception if I dropped case names into fn. Then I got this message at the first attempted fn. A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page) Now I can't see the text with my attemepts at edit in order to try to make sense of the explanation at the help page. I was trying to edit and add two fns at once. Is this the problem?Annesobol (talk) 19:24, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Annesobol[reply]

Is tag is missing the closing supposed to be your answer to my questions? If so, I dont understand. When I was able to see what I typed to make the fns, I believe I had all the required elements.Annesobol (talk) 19:33, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Annesobol[reply]

Could I have my draft categorized as American civil rights lawyer?Annesobol (talk) 18:35, 15 June 2021 (UTC)Annesobol[reply]

Hi. Sorry for your loss. We don't categorize drafts. Please stop putting "Annesobol" after the four tildes.   — Jeff G. ツ 17:36, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your input. I was invited to categorize my draft when I submitted it, and I did so: civil rights, law and biography. At one point I looked at a list somewhere on the wikipedia site and saw my draft in a cue in both civil rights and law. I guess I finally get it, sign with the four tildes, don't put my name. Thank you for your help with this.Annesobol (talk) 17:47, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. I added a category with a prepended colon; you may remove that colon when the article is approved. See also WP:THREAD.   — Jeff G. ツ 17:50, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Richard B. Sobol (July 19)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:
Probably notable (and on a personal note, I'd love to approve this, not that it matters much what I love); however:

1) Referencing needs to be improved: eg. 'The Duncan Cases' section doesn't have a single citation.

2) The tone/style is (understandably) promotional.

3) There is original research (see WP:OR) in statements like "It was expected as he grew up that Sobol would be a lawyer, too." What source supports this?

4) The 'External links' section should be cut down, per WP:EXT

Happy to review again after these improvements.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:22, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, Annesobol! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:22, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Richard B. Sobol has been accepted[edit]

Richard B. Sobol, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. Most new articles start out as Stub-Class or Start-Class and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

Bkissin (talk) 19:57, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Drafting an article on the LCDC[edit]

Dear Mrs Sobol,
I am writing this in hopes that you might still occasionally login to your Wikipedia user account and that you will therefore see the present post.
First of all, I would like to send you my belated condolences for your loss. I also wanted to congratulate you on the successful publication of the Wikipedia article about your late husband, Richard B. Sobol. I became aware of his work from watching the documentary A Crime on the Bayou at the PBS channel (via Sky UK) a few days ago, then found your article here on Wikipedia and realised it had been published only a few months ago.
I also noticed that there currently isn't an article here on Wikipedia about the LCDC, and I was wondering whether you might have any plans to create one. If so, then I'd like to offer my editorial assistance if you think it might be helpful. But if you don't intend to develop such an article yourself, then I'd like to have a go at drafting it, and perhaps you might consider participating in that effort in an advisory capacity, as I imagine you might have access to useful source materials?
Thank you for your consideration, Mrs Sobol, and for letting me know of your intent, whenever convenient.
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 16:37, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Patrick, thanks for getting in touch, sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I'm not going to do a wiki about LCDC, but I'd be glad to share info with you. It would be easier for me to communicate about LCDC via email. My email is [email protected]. Hope to hear from you. Annesobol (talk) 22:45, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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