User talk:7&6=thirteen/Archive 4

December 2013

Hello, I'm Flyer22. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Clarence Darrow because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Flyer22 (talk) 00:25, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for templating you. You made a mistake with this revert. If you reply to me about this, there is no need to reply on my talk page. I'll check back here to see if you have replied. Flyer22 (talk) 00:29, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page. Flyer22 (talk) 04:02, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Christmas dinner

Machinima of Santa Claus's reindeer filmed in Second life

Imploring that Stan enjoys a sumptuous Christmas holiday and a naughty New Year! First play this → → →

Now play this!
I dare you to tell me that you did not smile.

Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 02:13, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Talk page of my user page

I believe you once wrote to me explaining user pages belong completely to the user himself/herself. It seems like Benzband undid what I added to the dessert/cake section you added to my user page's edit page. Does the edit page not belong to me solely? Marc Bago (talk) 22:05, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Also, I smiled at you? It seems as if this page says I smiled at you! I don't even know how to smile at someone! On Wikipedia. But as my user page states, this site is kind of tough for me to figure out beyond reading all the articles.

Double also, I wonder if that Akita article was ever fixed. It really sucked. Marc Bago (talk) 22:08, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Your changes were to the template, and that is what he was undoing. You may have thought you were on your own page, but you weren't.

So too, I tried to leave a message on you talk page, and had to undo it because I interfered with some part of the syntax. So don't be hared on yourself. Editing in Wikipedia is a bitch, and it takes lots of hard knocks to learn.

Thanks for the warm and fuzzy. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:17, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia in the news

Newman, Judith (8 January 2014). "Wikipedia mania: What Does Have to do to Get a Page?". The New York Times. Retrieved 8 January 2014. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:49, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

January 2014

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Welcoming

Hi, please make sure you are mindful of who you are welcoming to Wikipedia. Today you welcomed Iamnotheretocontributetothiswiki (talk · contribs) to Wikipedia. If you look at the user's contributions (and user name), you can see his account was vandalism only from the outset. We try to avoid welcoming vandals when we notice this kind of pattern in their edits. only (talk) 18:22, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

There should be like a vandal.wikipedia.org where vandals can go and use the site as an outlet for their vandalism. It'd be set up to be a lawless place. It must be that way. It'd be like the no man's land of Wikipedia but totally seperated from Wikipedia. Picture every looting and riot in history and compartmentalize all of this, and then imagine Wikipedia operating in this fashion. And I'm not talking about satirical takes on Wikipedia, this is not what I'm envisioning. I guess eventually a system of power would have to be established, but a democratic environment should not be promoted. Power would derive from the vandals that agree most with each other. There'd be a little teamwork involved. This idea of mine, although it sounds completely ridiculous, I think would be a healthy outlet for potential Wikipedia vandals and would perhaps reroute the vandals from here to there- where they can do whatever they want without upsetting people who actually desire to have valid information, and at the same time these vandals would achieve the same sense of pleasure or accomplishment (to employ no sicker word) they get from disrupting the real Wikipedia. Just a thought. Marc Bago (talk) 19:17, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

A few things

Hi 7&6=thirteen,

You were the first and only person to communicate with me here on Wikipedia so don't really know where to turn for questions or just in general anything at all. You've always been helpful so perhaps you'd be willing to help me some more. Always appreciated and I thank you in advance for spending the time to read this and help. Here's some stuff I've been wondering about:

1) Is there a place to message all (or a fragment) of the moderators or whatever they're called of Wikipedia at once? Like a forum of sorts to discuss things? A place where I can say, "Hey, this needs to be brought to everyone's attention because of x and x," and some discussion formed or attention paid because of my post?

2) If there's a crappy article (like that Akita one from a while ago), how do I mark it in a way notifying the page needs revision? I think I've marked pages for revision before but can't remember if I have or if that's even a false memory of mine.

3) Is there Wikipedia style guide? Seriously, as my personal page states, this place is hard to navigate and find answers. For example, some articles employ the Oxford comma. Some don't. Some use both the Oxford comma and no Oxford comma. It's laziness IMO. Or nobody on here has put their foot down yet as to what style Wikipedia should use. Or maybe nobody gives a crap and I'm the only person on here who actually is picky about this.

4) If I come across an article with a talk page where I see someone has made a valid point or mentioned something of value that is never acknowledged (for months/years/however long), is there a way to somehow call out to Wikipedia users to acknowledge this point? Or make an update of sorts, reminding someone to inspect what a person in the past called for to be inspected?

5) Are you yourself a moderator or some sort of special user sitting somewhere on whatever the ranking/tier system that is used here on Wikipedia? Is there even a tier system? Like regular user/contributor/super member/moderator/overlord? Because I don't remember why exactly you contacted me, I think it was because my personal page was blank, but am curious about the workings of this site outside of reading the information on it.

6) How do I make my user page as cool as yours? :P

Thanks for any and all help. There's quite a few things here and any time you have to spare to help would be greatly appreciated. Marc Bago (talk) 19:07, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia Welcoming Committee can answer most of these questions. They are set up to handle this stuff. So I suggest you go there. I am nobody important, and am a WP: Gnome and have little if any status here. As to the user page question, click on "edit" on various user pages, so you can 'see under the hood.' Just copy, but don't save any changes. Suggest you look at WP:User page. Stay in touch. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:24, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

(passing by) After seeing this face, I realize that we have a team player. In addition to the good advice given above, you might try the Teahouse for general questions and discussion. For more important matters there are the noticeboards.

Regarding your #2 above, you can expect to take part in the editorial process and be bold. Use the article talk pages to discuss edits.

3 Wikipedia:Manual of Style (discussions for MOS are held at WT:MOS)

4 If you're not going to fix it or otherwise do the work to address the issue then don't necessarily call anyone's attention to it. Many threads go without responses for various reasons.

5 7&6=thirteen is quite modest in his response as he is a very well-respected and valuable editor and more important than his modesty has let him mention. You could learn a great deal by studying his contribs.

There are admins that carry out many tasks and there are hierarchies of leadership within Wikipedia but no one rules as we are a consensus-driven community. The policies and guidelines are built on discussions and consensus.

Hopefully helpful,
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 22:33, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

New Category

Added Category:Wikipedians who edit Wikipedia to your User Page, for your approval. A little humor! If you don't like, you can of course remove.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:56, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Templating established editors

Hi. It might not be a good idea to template welcome messages to editors who have been here for 8 years [1] :D but I'm sure it was accidental. Good luck, IRWolfie- (talk) 22:44, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Ships Barnstar

		WikiProject Ships Barnstar
		Thanks for all that source material at Glossary of nautical terms! The glossary is really shaping up, as a result of the work by editors like you. Djembayz (talk) 01:53, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Very much. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:59, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

It's well deserved! And thanks for the Dobos torte, haven't had any in years. Djembayz (talk) 15:04, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Those extra dictionaries make this multidiensional and much more comprehensive for our readers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:10, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

February 2014

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WP:ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — goethean 20:20, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

7&6=thirteen (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

your reason here

Accept reason:

I've given this more thought and I'll unblock you to allow you to participate at ANI. -- Atama頭 20:56, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I am not a bot. This was nnt spam. It was a good faith edit. When they said it was poorly sourced, I gave them a better source. I can't even edit at ANI to protest this. An indefinite block shows that our administrators (or at least one)are out of their minds. For someone to conclude that "I have become a single purpose account" to spread spam ignores a lot of facts. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:40, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Your editing pattern has changed dramatically in a very, very short period. I'm open to having my mind changed, and I've asked others at ANI to review my block. But I've looked over your long edit history, and seen your interests and editing ability, and you seem to have taken a sharp turn. I haven't blocked you and moved on, I'm watching your page and hoping for a good explanation. -- Atama頭 20:48, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I can't imagine what you mean that "my editing pattern has changed." You claim "I haven't blocked you and moved on, I'm watching your page and hoping for a good explanation." I don't know what that means. You have blocked me. What edits don't you like, sir? I am not here to please you. Please provide particulars. Please unblock me so that I can file a complaint about your conduct with WP:ANI. That you came up with this claim that I am now a spam bot should require some proof, not mere conjecture. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:51, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I'll unblock you. I may have erred here. Please take this to ANI (and feel free to complain about me as well). If I made a mistake here, it was because I was shocked at what looked like a strange change for you, because as I said on ANI and in my block, you seem to be a great editor. But I believe I can see what I've misinterpreted. -- Atama頭 20:56, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

You misread the statement, which I understand, because I misread it at first. The claim isn't that you weren't blocked, but an emphasis that this wasn't a drive-by block, by an admin who wasn't going to pay close attention to subsequent edits. While I may not have blocked in these circumstances, I agree that the sequence of edits is perplexing, and I think it is quite prudent for an admin to be concerned. I do hope you weight in at ANI, and while you may well decide to complain about treatment, I hope you will take some time to explain the sequence of edits, which are perplexing.--S Philbrick(Talk) 21:08, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Here is my interpretation, and I've said as much at ANI. I think that you were inserting the information about the beer because of the 6.66% ABV. The language you used looked like promotion, it looked exactly like something that a marketer would write to promote the beer. Goethan interpreted your edits as having that intention, as did I. The fact that it was placed in 3 different locations at once also increased the suggestion that it was promotion. My initial concern was that you've never been a spammer, you've been a very productive editor who has done much good for Wikipedia, and my intent here was to block you until I was sure that this wasn't the case (because it has happened before to other editors). Once I figured out what you were trying to do, I unblocked you. I'm not quick to block people, I've even been criticized in the past for being too timid about giving editors a block, but given the impression I had here I thought it was urgent. Again, I apologize for my mistake, and I've stated the fact that I made a mistake when unblocking you so that in the future the block should not count against you. -- Atama頭 21:16, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

For the record: Incident Archive User 7&6=thirteen promoting North Peak Brewing Company & Edit Warring 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:49, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

My view on one of your edits

Here's why I find the edits perplexing. For example this edit

The edit summary states (in part): Carrying beer measurements to an extreme

In what way is it an extreme? 6.66% ABV is far from an extreme. 66.6 IBU is far from an extreme. I can understand why an article about various measurements might identify examples of extremes, but this is not one. So why on earth was it added? The numbers have some significance to some people, but that is not relevant to beer measurement, so the addition sounds like something a newbie editor might find amusing and thinks belongs in an article. I wouldn't expect an established editor to think so, which is why some wondered what is going on.--S Philbrick(Talk) 21:15, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

And if you didn't like that edit, we could have talked about it at the talk page. The "D" in WP:BRD is discuss. WP:block isn't in that rule. Take a look at WP:3RR. The extremity in the case of which we speak was the use of the 6.66% ABV and the 66.6 IBU. I do not presume your knowledge level on craft beers or microbrews. It was in any event the use of he confluence of those numbers that got North Peak Brewing Company to call it Diabolical, a clear reference to 666 (number). As far as I am concerned, the administrators who initiated this fiasco proved only that they can do anything they want because they have the power. That this can be done without reference to the editing history of the charged individual reflects badly on the decisional process. The attempts to add fuel to the fire by nitpicking my edits was in bad faith; they started the indefinite suspension non one ground (that I was a bot pushing for beer company', then belatedly added 'edit warring' and then sought to say I was pushing a book. My edit history meant little if anything. there was no Presumption of innocence and no WP:AGF. There was no warning, only a preemptive attack.

Some of the moving parties have chosen only to dig deeper and not to apologize. Their choice. Duly noted.

So while I may forgive some of the transgression, I will never forget the lessons learned. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:58, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

My knowledge of craft beer and microbreweries is quite limited. So please let me know what I may be missing. I do have more than a layperson's understanding of extremes. I am aware that occasionally some industry will use a word as jargon, and it will have a precise meaning within that industry not exactly the same as in other contexts. If that it the case, it should be identified. Is the word "extreme" used in the beer industry with a different meaning than its usual mathematical meaning? --S Philbrick(Talk) 13:38, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I'll be 100% honest as to why I said what I did. At the time I still believed that there was no way an editor with 60K edits could make those additions and honestly believe they belonged. I'm frankly baffled at those edits being made by an experienced editor. I don't know if it makes it better or worse to tell you that I'd rather those edits had been made by a compromised account. It'd be much easier to understand--Cube lurker (talk) 03:34, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to have disappointed you. I thought they were relevant. Particularly as to the North Peak Brewing Company. I've written and read lots of microbrew articles, and these are not all that unusual.

No one bats a thousand. In 60,000 edits, mistakes have been made. And other editors would see at least some of the subjects through a different crystal. I guarantee it.

But I would always start with WP:AGF, particularly with an experienced editor. Cutting off their hands ought to be a last resort. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 03:50, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

One of the locations was on an article talk page of Marquette, Michigan, and it was simply a psssing remark about 666 (number) which someone else had brought up. That one of our esteemed editors decided to bowdlerize my remark and enforce his personal notions of relevancy was officious and overbearing. Nobody appointed him chief censor. He also needs to reread and understand WP:3RR and WP:BRD and reacquaint himself with the rules of WP:ANI. I for one have never been "topic banned", and I believe in collaboration, discussion and consensus first.

As to the word "extreme" it was simply a reaction to the clever marketing device of the Diabolical name and is interaction with the measurement of IBU and ABV. I hope that our esteemed editor will understand that what I put on my {{WP:User page]] is to be left alone, and that he will not presume to censor this too. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I agree that the marketing was clever. I like clever marketing. But I haven't yet understood what it had to do with "extreme". However, I fear if I ask again, it will be badgering, and you don't need that, so I'll drop this.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:24, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Repeatedly posted links to a brewery looks like spam. Doing it on a talk page on an unrelated article is undoubtedly spam. Restoring it - more spam. Do it again, and I block your account. Rklawton (talk) 15:13, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps it is time to move on from the Beer War to the Boer War? One editor's opinion. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 18:02, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

The only good thing to come out of the Boer War (opinion) was Breaker Morant. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:09, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Breaker Morant or Breaker Morant? —BarrelProof (talk) 18:17, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

More the latter. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

There also is a rather nice (opinion) monument to it's vets in London, Ontario. Carptrash (talk) 01:23, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Did not know that. Nice statue. However, your title on the statue's picture (WWI) is at odds with the commemorative plaque (South Africa 1899-1901). 7&6=thirteen (☎) 04:03, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

I have left a message for you on my own talk page.Janedoe743 (talk) 03:26, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the Dobos torte!

Much appreciated. Frank12 (talk) 21:20, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Your Edits to my UserPage

I noticed you recently edited my UserPage, and I was wondering if you could clarify what the "mild suggestion" quoted in your edit summary is. --TommyBoy (talk) 01:45, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)See first line in editing mode: A template has been added to the top of your page. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:27, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry. I inadvertently thought that was your talk page. I was wrong. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:39, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

1891 Text-Book of Seamanship

Hi again,

I happened upon this and thought that it might interest you.[2] — goethean 16:46, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Wow. Thank you for sharing and thinking of me. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:50, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Luce, Commodore S. B., U. S. Navy; Ward, Aaron, Lieutenant, U.S. Navy; Seabury, S., Lieutenant, U.S. Navy (illustrator) (1834 Copyright © 1997-2007). Text-Book of Seamanship: The Equipping and Handling of Vessels Under Sail or Steam for the Use of the United States Naval Academy (Revised and enlarged ed.). New York: Van Nostrand Company for U.S. Naval Academy/Smith & McDougal, Electrotypers/Historic Naval Ships Association. {{cite book}}: Check date values in: |year= (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:08, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Mogadishu

Thanks for your kind words on my talk page. It's good to see that there's still decent people here and at the Irish project who disagree with Banner!! Given that you did a great job on reviewing Msambweni I wondered if you'd be interested in reviewing this one?♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:32, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

What on earth?

Hi, can you explain this edit please? [3]

Redslash, I had reconsidered my support, and decided to oppose for the reasons stated. I was persuaded by the comment, and had looked further into the history of the article and its name. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:08, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

7&6=thirteen, you didn't reconsider your support, you reconsidered mine. Red Slash 00:54, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

You are right. Shit! I didn't mean to. I am sorry. What can we do? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 01:32, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

I tried to fix this. See Talk:Bibliography of encyclopedias#Proposed move. The result is still Not Moved, though the vote is now more even. My closure used the cited AfD as part of the background. The article's reach may exceed its grasp but it is well-intentioned. Not sure how much more can be said. EdJohnston (talk) 03:55, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm not upset and honestly I don't feel very strongly about the move request--it's fine either way. It's good to know it was an honest screw-up, I appreciate your apology and no further action is required Woohoo, we all make mistakes! Red Slash 21:35, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

I only have one more state to go. It started adding categories and has morphed into adding, and cleaning up the map locations, cleaning up the units and adding categories and other MoS cleanup. And in the case of some places cleaning the main navigation infoboxes. So you know this started a while ago and the rest of the world is done, or at least for the articles that were there when I visited. So, I'm glad someone noticed and appreciated the work. If you are interested in these, can you look at Sand Point Light? I wound up leaving that one pretty much alone since I could not figure out what this is about. The coordinates at the USCG site don't seem to match ours. So I think the article is about more then one light and might actually not cover the current USCG one. It left me totally confused. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:11, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

There are two Sand Point Lights in Michigan. As the primary editor of the Michigan lighthouse articles (before the Wikifascists messed with me and my templates) I was well on my way to fixing and creating all the Michigan lighthouses. But being a volunteer, I can unvolunteer when they go out of their way to tear up the track I've laid down. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:18, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Merchandise Giveaway

Hey 7&6=thirteen, I just wanted to stop and thank you for voting towards my free Wikipedia shirt! We haven't run into each other in a while, but I too appreciate all the hard work you do around here! Canadian Paul 20:19, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Mkombozi- The Heroic Dog

I thought you might like this for that list: http://www.dogheirs.com/tamara/posts/533-mkombozi-the-stray-dog-saved-the-life-of-a-newborn-baby http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2156885/Abandoned-newborn-baby-girl-rescued-hero-dog-sniffing-bridge-Ghana.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3i9a18Gcqc#t=39 http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/06/abandoned-newborn-baby-girl-rescued-by-hero-dog%E2%80%8F-2679878.html http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Family/Modern-Parenthood/2012/0608/Dog-hero-in-Ghana-rescues-newborn-baby Chrisrus (talk) 07:12, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks for the Milorganite

Many thanks for your work on the Milorganite article. One works hard on an article to bring it up to standard and pass the notable requirement. Again-my thanks-RFD (talk) 10:11, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Your welcome. Glad to have a good outcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Milorganite. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:56, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

You noticed

Thanks. Breakfast is done and we are now on to other things. Carptrash (talk) 17:15, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Boy, you just can't leave that s**t alone. Carptrash (talk) 19:14, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

And you., planning a trip to Milwaukee to get pictures for the article? Carptrash (talk) 15:29, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Not likely. I used to go there regularly for business (and they also have close to the lowest liquor taxes in the country, so there was an added benefit), but I no longer work with those clients. Too bad. In any event, it is a very long and expensive (time and money) trip, and I am not likely to make that investment unless somebody else is paying for it. 15:40, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	I know this is a bit stale, but thanks for your work on bringing Brady disclosure out of stub status. Bearian (talk) 22:21, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Well thank you. I am genuinely surprised. My efforts there were small, but it is nice to be noticed. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:14, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Hey man

What you said is absolutely correct in that we can agree to disagree, and I'm really sorry for the specific wording/tone I used - I suppose it's unbecoming of a collaborative discussion with the goal (on both our parts) to improve the encyclopedia. I hope there aren't any hard feelings over that and I look forward to working with you in the future. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:08, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Understood. It's easy to miscommunicate at a keyboard; no offense taken. So now, enjoy your Dobos Torte. Happy editing.

Alexander Macomb article

At your request, I looked at this article, but I don't see anything that needs improvement--it seems very well done. Most of my participation on this site consists of correcting spelling and grammatical errors; I'm not very good with computers per se and so my textual and informational edits are often problematical. So if I missed anything in the Macomb article, I apologize.

Regarding Commodore Perry--I noticed that he died on his 34th birthday. In my experience, such an event is usually noted in the text (instead of just mentioning his age). I would've made an edit to that effect, but as you'd just thanked me for another edit (the "Elliot"/"Elliott" spellings?), I thought I should leave that to you.

By the way, I just saw the "Smile" that I supposedly sent to you. I'm afraid I don't remember doing that. Rontrigger (talk) 21:23, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you!

not sure what i did to deserve the torte but thanks congrats cheers ~Helicopter Llama~ 14:26, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

And thank you. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:31, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!

'Twas only a minor edit… I saw your edit to the F-S knife page, and was curious as to who "Yank" Levy was. I have two reference books on the F-S knife (Latham-Wilkinson and Flook)- and keep on meaning to do some work on the article. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 15:41, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Albert Levy (soldier)

I have made several edits to correct errors that show up when I used MS Word as an editor. The other thing I noticed was that a clarification is needed in the "Military career" paragraph. I have left a marker where I feel a clarification is needed for the general reader. I understand what you are talking about but some readers may not. I didn't have a lot of time to devote to the article right now, but I might look at it later today. Hope this helped. Cuprum17 (talk) 18:50, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

NY Times permalink

I think I once knew how to get a permalink, but I have forgotten.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:55, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

I don't have a subscription and I've used up my ten freebies for the month. There is a series of boxes that appear (one is "share" but I don't think that's the one that applies). I think you click on "other" and it will be one of the options. click on it, and (obviously) copy it. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:59, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

That's 10 freebies per browser and per device.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:49, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Didn't know that. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:59, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Albert Levy's knives

Thanks very much for your kind words (which I don't deserve!). I found a photo of Levy's collection of knives- it turned out to be from "Life" magazine, copyright, and thus I couldn't upload it. I can't see anything there at the moment which would be a "Levy combat knife"- there's a push dagger, a standard US trench dagger (knuckleduster type), a kukri, a flick knife, a marlin spike, an Arab-style dagger (like the one worn by Lawrence of Arabia), something that looks like an improvised plug bayonet, and various odd stilettos and combat knives (including one that looks like a Hitler Youth-badged dagger). According to the caption "In a fight, he carries one under his sleeve, one suspended round his neck." Actually, the whole collection looks like a photo of the contents of a bin at a police station after a knife amnesty! Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 21:49, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

I've done a lot of work in prisons and correctional facilities (however that may differ -- they look like prisons to me). Although some prisons are worse than oldre. I've done work at Jackson Prison and the Blues Brothers Joliet Prison, and both of those were real hell holes. But I digress. Some of these place have collections of shivs, and it is amazing what someone with a lot of time on their hands can produce from not very much. And a lot of them would have passed through airport security no problem. So what we have is the illusion of security. the Life Magazine pictures are great, but all copyrighted. I would also like to put in a copy of the comic book page. Sigh!

Furthermore. you deserved my accolades. One of my personal pet peeves is that Wikipedia(ns) seems to be retentive about giving out recognition for a job well done. An occasional pat on the back gets a lot more done than a kick in the head. And we seem to gravitate toward the latter, not the former. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:57, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Jack Dempsey Comment

Your revert of my edit on the article Jack Dempsey surprises me. The citation leads to this website which does not support the statement that he "instructed Coast Guardsmen on close-quarters hand-to-hand combat incorporating boxing, wrestling, savate and jiujitsu". This is the initial reason that I removed the citation. A better way to cite this paragraph would be to actually cite the book itself with a page reference or two. I don't like to see citations leading to a commercial site that leads into a sales pitch for the item being mentioned. The term "savate" was added to the article by an IP and I question whether Dempsey actually taught that in hand to hand combat; if he did, it would be nice to use a page number reference within the book to back that claim. If you will check the article's history, you will find that I have reverted vandalism in this article several times and it is one of about six hundred articles that I patrol for vandalism and unwarranted changes. I know that you also do the same, and I respect that. I do it because Jack Dempsey was a Coast Guardsman and that is the aspect of the article that I am mostly interested in, but I have reverted blatant vandalism when I found it. The citation provided does prove he authored the book, but says nothing about the content or his method of instruction. This could be referenced better in my opinion and that is the reason that I made my changes. I won't revert your edit, but in the future, it would be courteous to discuss first before reverting the edit of an experienced editor, in my opinion... Cuprum17 (talk) 22:39, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

It wasn't a revert. I assumeD WP:AGF. In any event, I see your point on the citation, and think we should address it; but we should at least reference the book. The savate I find wholy credible. My uncle was an MP in World War II, and got similar training from Yank Levy, the world's dirtiest fighter." As an MP, he had a confrontation with a championship professinal fighter, whoi he rendered unconscious. But a real look at the book would be great. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:44, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

I have the book coming and will do a reference, just to make this right. the article says it was co-authored by Bernard J. Cosneck which I don't find to be true. The book was co-authored by Frank G. Menke. Who knows, I may learn something about savate! I am only interested in getting the reference right. Thank you for your response. Cuprum17 (talk) 01:33, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Two different versions with two different coauthors, I think. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:41, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

The Jack Dempsey book I ordered should be here any day and I will see what can be done with it to add to the article on him. BTW, thank you for the barnstar, I didn't do much, but I hope I helped you with a extra set of fresh eyes. Cuprum17 (talk) 01:25, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

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Time and TIME

Per WP:MOSCAP what the magazine calls itself is not the same as what we call them. --John (talk) 20:36, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

OK. THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP. YOU GIVEN GUIDANCE JUST IN time. {:>{)> 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:37, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Salmon P. Chase

Your revert of my edit on the article for Salmon P. Chase surprises me. I only added a reference to an already existing Wikipedia article on Kate Chase (Salmon P. Chase's daughter). Moreover, from what I can see it was not my edit that you reverted, but from the change made by the IP after me. My edit hasn't been reverted at all.

Also, may I add that the edit you DID revert (not mine) in fact shouldn't have been reverted. According to Doris Kearns "Team of Rivals" (audiobook, part 5, about 1hr 30 minutes in) it was indeed Chase's fourth resignation that got accepted by Lincoln and not his third. Thanks in advance for removing any damage to my wikipedia reputation. 80.169.46.101 (talk) 14:11, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Bert Levy

Regarding this - if "not one reference" refers to him as 'Albert', why is the article located named as it is, and not Bert Levy? GiantSnowman 18:28, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

I see a proposal for you to move it to Bert "Yank" Levy, which rightly got rejected. Decide on either Bert Levy or Yank Levy, dependent on what the actual WP:COMMONNAME is, and then start a proper RM. But his given name was 'Albert' and the article needs to reflect that. GiantSnowman 18:33, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Not one source except wikipedia has ever used "Albert". It wasn't on his birth certificate. It isn't on his book. It isn't in any of the 30+ sources in the article. The American National Biography went out of its way to mention that Wikipedia got it wrong. He is either Bert Levy or "Yank" Levy" or "Yank" Bert Levy (which is what he used on his book. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:37, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Again, if that is the case, why is the article still there? This is especially embarrassing now that it is on the main page - an article called Albert about someone who wasn't called Albert! GiantSnowman 18:40, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Take a look at the DYK nomination page. I tried to get this fixed, and nobody listened. Not one source except wikipedia has ever used "Albert". It wasn't on his birth certificate. It isn't on his book. It isn't in any of the 30+ sources in the article. The American National Biography went out of its way to mention that Wikipedia got it wrong. He is either Bert Levy or "Yank" Levy" or "Yank" Bert Levy (which is what he used on his book. Do take a look at the Life Magazine article. Most of the sources use "Yank" Levy. If you don't want to bother reading the article, just look at the title. on the references. I made it clear how I felt about the name change, but you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:43, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

You mean {{[[Template:|]]}}, where you "attempted to get it fixed" after you had expanded the article and after the DYK hook had been approved? Whatever happened to WP:BEBOLD? GiantSnowman 18:47, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

We were in the middle of a seeming congressional debate. It's a G*d* dirty process, and I tried to lead them down the right path. But I wasn't going to unilaterally declare my view (which was the correct one, as I know more about the subject than anyone else in the room, so to speak) to be the final solution. I did not like where any of this led, but felt constrained by collegiality. And moving the article (with all those redirects and prior history) was fraught with technical difficulty, and something I did not want to start and screw up. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:58, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Albert Levy (soldier) (:Before this is promoted, it would be good if we could finally decide whether the article should be called "Yank" Levy or Bert Levy. Except for wikipedia, so far as I can tell, he was never called Albert Levy. I would a . . . 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:00, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

If you are worried about the 'dirty' work involved - don't be. Simply propose a RM at whatever name you feel it should be, with your obvious knowledge of the subject, and feel free to proposed me as a closer. I'm more than happy to fix all the broken links/double redirects etc. once consensus has chosen a name. GiantSnowman 20:13, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind offer. I've already said all that, and only some are evidently understanding. I am burnt out on the subject, and the debate. Indeed, I already posted an explanatory note, which is which is like casting pearls before swine. Or as welcome as a screen door installer in a submarine. Right now I have real work for which people pay me a lot of money and which is on a deadline, so this is really not a good time or place for me to get involved further. My frustration is showing. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:27, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

I am happy to close - but there is noe enough consensus, and ideally it needs to be a proper WP:RM and not just an informat discussion. GiantSnowman 15:41, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Snow in Louisiana

Thank you for your assistance with the Snow in Louisiana article. Your attention to detail really made the article easier to understand! Edeleo7 (talk) 02:37, 1 May 2014 (UTC)edeleo7

Il n'y a pas de quoi. Best regards. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:33, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

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Have you seen his edits? Almos all edits are vandalism, [4], see here, Changed Steve Buscemi's picture to some football player. And that is just one. Never mind, he is blocked. Hafspajen (talk) 01:00, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

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Hi! I undid this edit of yours. The IP's edits are correct. This is a press release page of The University of Tokyo on Hachikō's cause of death. Though it's written in ja, you can see the word Dilofilaria immitis in it. I hope you don't mind my edit. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 16:33, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

It was a first edit by an IP, unsourced, and with a new and entirely different diagnosis. Glad you caught it. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:37, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Bert Levy

Hi- I've been doing some reading on the Spanish Civil War battle of Jarama, and wondered if Levy spoke Spanish. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 10:45, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't know. Never saw anything in the sources one way or the other. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 10:47, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

I haven't seen anything either, other than there were only a handful of interpreters available to the British contingent- I suppose if Levy was competent in Spanish he would have been employed as such. His parents' language appears to have been Yiddish. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 12:30, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Michigan Brewing Company

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How to Fight Tough by Jack Dempsey

Well, it's been almost a month getting here, but I finally received the book and it is next on my reading list. Almost every page has a picture of the fighting technique that Dempsey is discussing. I kind of skimmed it real quick so I don't know much about what it says just yet. The version of the book I found was a reprint of the original 1942 version and was reprinted by Palladin Press of Boulder, Colorado. ISBN 978-1-58160-315-6. I will let you know more about it after I get it read next week. Cuprum17 (talk) 19:25, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

I haven't seen that book, but Yank Levy's Guerrilla Warfare was quite graphic and a good read. Over 500,000 copies sold. Unfortunately, he was wrong in that the techniques can be adapted by bad governments (not just democratic ones) and bad people. the Growth of the IED in our recent involvements makes one long for Gulf War I and Saddam Hussein, where there were at least some rules, and some limits on what the sides were willing to do to each other. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:31, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you. I surely hope so. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:03, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

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You left a message on my talk page saying I might want to consider joining a wiki project or getting adopted. Would you adopt me? I not entirely sure what wp adoption is. If it's a process that requires a lot of attention on your part, I wouldn't want to overburden you.Fungal vexation (talk) 13:16, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for not getting back to you. Have not been editing much, and the real world has intruded on my editing. Yes. I've never done this before, but I would be happy to assist you. Let me know what, if anything, you need. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:27, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Alright, I heard a bit about adoption of articles. Could I adopt this article? Butler, Maryland I live here. I would be immensely surprised if there were any other active editors in the town. I doubt there's many more then a 100 people that live here. The creator of the article was banned apparently, so I think I might be Wikipedia's foremost expert on the town.Fungal vexation (talk) 20:42, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Starting local is a good idea. Writing about something you know will give you perspective. You still need to use and cite to WP:RS. Open you wikipage to permit e-mails. Or e-mail me. Note how I reformatted Butler, Maryland. I have no experience using the new visual ecditor, sok cna't advise you on that. I would say try it and see if it works. Stay in touch, and I'll try to help. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:56, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

List of magic museums

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´from Klaghofer´ means: The magic sets were collected by Mr. Manfred Klaghofer (myself). I also founded the museum.

citation: http://www.zauberkasten-museum.at/ http://www.zauber-pedia.de/index.php?title=Manfred_Klaghofer

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Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 10:59, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Tom Rees

I have made Tom Rees (British soldier) a new article. Feel free to improve the article further.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:51, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Tom Rees (British airman)

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Thanks for taking the article on so enthusiastically. Totally fascinating! MerielGJones (talk) 16:45, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Melville Fuller

I have a question for you since you have worked on this article. Do you know of any source that states Fuller lived in Bangor, Maine at some time. The article used to say it, but I removed the mention because it was unreferenced. List of people from Bangor, Maine had Fuller in it also till I removed it. He lived in Augusta and went to Bowdoin College. Fuller might have had family in Bangor but that doesn't make him from there. Note the article doesn't have him categorized as 'People from Bangor, Maine' either. Can you help me and do you have any thoughts?...William 01:05, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

User:WilliamJE, I have no idea and and no opinion. I did add to this article a list of generic sources on SCOTUS justices in "Further reading" (something that should be in every biographical article for them I think, and a job I did not finish), and I would presume that the answer is there. Maybe something on line. If I run across anything, I'll let you know. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:56, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

The Tridge revert

I don't mean to reduce or detract from your effort, just to redirect it. There's already a list of three-way bridges at Three-way bridge. - Denimadept (talk) 17:17, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

OK. Still, not well referenced or even well thought out. thanks, as this did not exist when I got into my last dispute about this subject a long time ago. I do very much like the scope of your list, however. If you go back in the history on The Tridge (Midland, Michigan) you will see that I had spent considerable time on this subject before one of our esteemed editors trashed it all as "cruft" so that he could kill my effort at the time to get a DYK. 7&6=thirteen (☎)

Heh. Well, as you know, any article can be improved, even ones I started! I didn't start that one, though. I was thinking it might be appropriate to rename it to "list of yadda yadda", but for now, I'm not going to do that. - Denimadept (talk) 17:30, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Note that blogs are not appropriate cites. - Denimadept (talk) 17:32, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Burden of proof, buddy. Where are you finding sources on the Ypsilanti tridge that I'm not? Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 17:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

You're asking me? - Denimadept (talk) 17:43, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm working on it friend. I'm not asking anybody. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:45, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Towering accomplishments

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Sergeant Stubby

I've reverted you there. The source you put in the infobox doesn't say he was a Sergeant, the other Smithsonian page only says he was put forward for promotion to Sergeant. I've written to them asking for their evidence, but we do have a source that states clearly there is no documentary evidence for this. This all seems extremely unlikely - the US Army doesn't have any procedures for this so far as I know and no official wardogs for that war I believe. It certainly has no procedures for medals for animals. I raised it at the article's talk page and also at User talk:Drmies and now at a couple of wikiprojects. Dougweller (talk) 13:43, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I left your edits alone, but put in sources noting the contrary. WP:Truth would seem to apply. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:57, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

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Stanley Proctor

The article cannot run at DYK while it is up for deletion. If this annoys you off as much as it does me, go to the deletion page and express your opinion there. Thank you. Hawkeye7 (talk) 11:16, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

This nomination was reviewed and given a tick. Two weeks ago EEng asked if any other editors thought the article should be deleted. He has had no takers and was told by the reviewer User:TheQ Editor that it was notable. There are more than 30 sources in the article WP:GNG wold seeem to apply. He is recognized by the

Florida Arts Council and is in the Florida Hall Artists Hall of Fame. His works are in many important collections, and he is acoording to the Florida Secretary of State, perhaps the most important public artist in Florida.

In 2004 he received the National Sculpture Society's American Artists Professional League Award for a traditional realistic depiction in sculpture.

User: Hawkeye7 actually promoted the DYK, and then decided to kill the DYK.

Now you summarily killed the DYK and closed the discussion without notice? This needs to be reopened until the belated delete matter is resolved.

We need the matter reopened by an administrator.

I know it can't be run until this is the deletion is resolved.

Strong keep More than 30 sources. WP:GNG. Received extensive coverage. Works in many important public collections, and noted as a creator of public art works, particularly regionally. Recognized by his peer group and patrons as an exceptional realistic artist, and honored as such. Works are in the White House and all overthe country. Nationally recognized for his work involving sports figures. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:19, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Trial film

You reverted my changes to Trial film because "getting rid of Judgment at Nuremberg and Witness for the Prosecution is wrong." But I didn't get rid of them. They are mentioned earlier in the article under The American Bar Association's list and American Film Institute. The section from which I removed them is called Other films, so it shouldn't duplicate ones already listed. On the other hand, when you reverted my change, you removed my addition of The Wreck of the Mary Deare, which had NOT been mentioned earlier. If you insist on having redundant entries for the first two films, I guess I won't fight it, but I think The Wreck of the Mary Deare definitely belongs on this list. ubiquity (talk) 13:32, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I agree that The Wreck of the Mary Deare is a good addition! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:34, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Charles F. Conrad

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Category & sub-categories

Hello 13. I don't know how to describe or fix this problem, but Category:Afghanistan-Iraq War Memorials has category & subcategory problems. That is, it is both a sub-category and parent category. (Click on the triangles & you'll see.) Can you fix? Thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 16:14, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

S. Rich, Sorry, but I don't (haven't) done this. Creating categories is something I leave to my betters. The problems you correctly describe are beyond my knowledge. I've posted notice of the creation of the category in a couple of places, and I imagine someone with more knowledge will sort it out. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:21, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

I saw the change at Northwood Gratitude and Honor Memorial & the notice you posted. I think I'll try to fix. I believe the problem exists because Category:AF=IZ has parent categories listed. – S. Rich (talk) 16:36, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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Edit summaries

Probably not helpful to just copy-and-paste your contribution to an article into the edit summary, it's flooding my watchlist right now and doesn't help anyone work out what you've edited or why, as this info is available in the article history. Good work on the Dickin stuff mind you. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:50, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

OK. Sorry. I'm done. What would you suggest? And I'm not being sarcastic! This just happened that there was a lot of overlap here, and it isn't in an area that I normally frequent. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:54, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

No, fair enough, it just happens that I created most of the Dickin Medal recipient articles so my watchlist is flooded! If it was me, I'd just say something like "expanding and referencing" or similar. I appreciate what you're doing in any case! The Rambling Man (talk) 18:57, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

OK. I've always tried to be factual.

As I said, you and I just happened to have an overlap due to a coincidental shared interest. I thought these articles all needed work. I only did the dogs, but I think its true of the other articles. Haven't looked at the cat, horses and pigeons. But I'm more than glad to not take those on, and will leave it up to your good offices. I'm supposed to be doing real life work anyway right now. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:04, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

When I see your name in an edit summary, by and large I just ignore it. I know your edits are going to be an improvement, so there is nothing to see here — move along. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:07, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

All I'm asking is not to copy-and-paste your edit into the edit summary. That's completely unhelpful. Everything else is fab. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:02, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

OK. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:55, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

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And vote support :) Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 22:15, 19 September 2014 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates

Great, nice to 'meet' you :) Quite amazing what he has done. I'm sure Cancellara and Tony Martin will try. Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 22:38, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

I find the comment that 2% is no big deal to be truly disconcerting. Studies show that over confidence in the correctness of an analysis increases with ignorance of the subject matter. I think we are seeing this in action here. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:44, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Certainly a person who doesn't know jack about sports, much less cycling! I wonder when they'll decide about putting it on the front page or not... It's the first time an article I worked on may go there! Were you the one who added the 412 watts average? I'm trying to find a reference for it on Google, but I can't :/ Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 22:56, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Sorted, I replied to that 2% guy lol. Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 23:19, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the refs my friend, I'll look at them for sure, but there is a lot of refs already :) I'm gonna put a ref for the Shut up legs citation lol. Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 23:58, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Looks like it'll go on the front page very soon :) Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 20:06, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

No prob! And it IS on the frontpage now :) Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 20:58, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

First for me too! Well if you look at the History of the Jens Voigt article, I've been expanding it slowly, going back to 2011 :) Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 21:12, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Your enthusiasm in editing and arguing for the Hour record of Jens Voigt to go on the main page! Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 18:43, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

"Thank you. Thank you very much." — Elvis 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:46, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

World Championships

Any favorites for the race on Sunday? Let's pick 2 riders each. You start :) By the way I uploaded two good pics of Juan Antonio Flecha, first time I upload pics, what a chore to find some "legal" ones Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 21:13, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for The Finest Hours (2015 film)

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:03, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	You are hereby awarded this barnstar for conspicuous attention to detail on David A. Randall. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:15, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Thank you very much. — Elvis 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:19, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Mason County Sculpture Trail

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:04, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for 1 (2013 film)

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:04, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Go Polo!

	Cup for you
	Thnx for the efforts on Hobby horse polo Serten (talk) 13:30, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you too. Charming article on an obscure but amusing subject. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:37, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Kollasmosoma sentum

Your contributions merit a DYKmake for this article nomination which I have added. But an editor can't run with the hare & hunt with the hounds (COI), so we will need a fresh reviewer for the DYK. AshLin (talk) 14:03, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Kollasmosoma sentum

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:00, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of HOP Ranch

Many thanks for all of the myriad edits on HOP Ranch. I greatly appreciate the help! I'll recheck, but the quote "lost art of the chinese might be revived" comes the Nelson reference 15. I'm happy to recognize you as a co-creator on the article. How do I do that? Thanks again! dnforney (talk) 19:48, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Just put all of this on the DYK nomination page. Get me the quote and I'll put it in for you. Trying to learn all this formatting is very daunting. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:52, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Response

I see you have done quite a bit to the article and I have done what you requested, although you would not know it from looking at the template. You are welcome to ask someone else to re-review the nomination if you think it necessary. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:52, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll find another reviewer to double check/look over our work. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:08, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Here are the first two sentences from the Nelson reference, p. 1. "Artus Van Briggle was truly a master artisan and a giant in American art pottery. While highly talented as a painter, he is best known for his sculpture and designs in clay, which he combined with his rediscovery of a formula for a dead matte glaze which had eluded makers of artistic pottery since the Chinese pottery of the Ming Dynasty." dnforney (talk) 20:49, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Townsend's vole

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:03, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Quora.com

Please note that www.quora.com is entirely driven by user-generated content, and as such is not a valid source for any information content, except conceivably in an article about that site itself, and to identify the topic of such an article. It shouldn't be used for List_of_unusual_units_of_measurement. Rhialto (talk) 14:18, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your note. I know that, and this time did not use it as a source. It is a link. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:34, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

wp:el applies. It doesn't meet those criteria either. Rhialto (talk) 17:07, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/HOP Ranch

Hi, do you have time to look at ALT11 and sign off on it? The nomination has been sitting around for 2 months and is basically good to go. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:42, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the quick response. But are you sure you reviewed HOP Ranch? Your comment about "latrines in the passageways" is referring to the recent hook for Townsend's vole. Yoninah (talk) 18:58, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks again! Yoninah (talk) 19:12, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

dyk

Who should we bug to get the new article jumped in the queue? Gaijin42 (talk) 21:45, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

 Done 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:54, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK suggestion

Hi, I wanted to tick off a dyk and your hook says " that twin settlements of Mikuszowice and Komorowice were divided by a state border for hundreds of years, but are now unified in one country, separated only by a river? ". I read the article and I think its says that. Could you change the article so that it more or less finishes with your suggested hook and give it enough refs to substantiate it? This is only a suggestion. Maybe there are other ways to do this. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 18:25, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Victuallers Passed this on to more appropriate editor. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:45, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Jens Voigt

I think the half his age thing is a good info, good job! Now look for the big guns trying to beat the record :P (Wiggins, Martin) Mattsnow81 (Talk) 16:12, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

It's open season, and these are unlimited (safety not recumbent) bikes, so the records will fall repeatedly I think, at least for a while. One can also assume that anyone who rides to a record will be heavily scrutinized for the usual suspects, so doping will either be nonexistent or more creative. That part is all very sad. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:18, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

"Revert"

Regarding this edit of yours, I think you're confusing "revert" (which simply means "undoing or otherwise negating the effects of one or more edits, which results in the page being restored to a previous version", a description that would apply to what happened here) with "rollback", the anti-vandal tool that's not to be used lightly. Just a note to clear up what appears to be a misunderstanding. Huon (talk) 23:25, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

You are right. I use rollback very sparringly. And even if I undo, I tread lightly and put in an edit summary that shows my intent. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:14, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Re: Mikuszowice

[5] - I hope it's now comprehensible. Thank you for the review. D_T_G (PL) 22:08, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm working on it. Very difficult, as I have neither the books nor the Polish language skills. But we will do the best we can to advance the ball. It would be helpful if we could put English translations on some of the book titles. Is that possible? It would give us a fig leaf to hide behind—WP:DYK is very picky, and I want this to go through without undue hassle. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:14, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Some of those books have English summaries included, e.g. Bielsko-Biała. Monografia Miasta -> A Written Account of Bielsko-Biała. I'll try to add those title translations, but not today, now I need to catch some Z's before tomorrow's work day :/ D_T_G (PL) 22:53, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 01:01, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, indeed. Once more: thank you. D_T_G (PL) 18:46, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Ok, that's what you do here, but still it was you to devote your time to assist me, so I'm thankfull for that. BTW, I've expanded a little bit Biała (Vistula) article as it will be also linked from the main page, and later I will add some more sources later (also regarding its historical status). D_T_G (PL) 20:02, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

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Skyscraper Live

Hello,

I have clarified that I reviewed the above. The article is ticked to go.

Georgejdorner (talk) 18:30, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Skyscraper Live

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:03, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Adding a co-editor

I have added User:7&6=thirteen as co-editor for my last 4 articles I submitted for DYK. Can you look them over to make sure that the automatic credits are set up correctly that when the time comes that we both get DYK credits accordingly.

• Template:Did you know nominations/Swift Lathers
• Template:Did you know nominations/Oceana County Historical & Genealogical Society

Thanks! --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:10, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

You did everything perfectly! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:45, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Great to hear - thanks for looking at it.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:04, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

As always, you are kind and generous. You are a gentleman and a scholar. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:16, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

From Elvis in Memphis

Thanks for the review.--GDuwenTell me! 13:00, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

User:GDuwen, I try to anticipate any flak at DYK, which IMHO is so endemic and toxic—and sometimes not related to the merits of the nomination—that it seems to be deterring people from submitting DYKs and from reviewing them. I don't expect problems with your fine effort, but this requires prophylactic editing, so to speak. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:07, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi

Feel free to add a comment about this situation at Wikipedia talk:Did you know at the latest discussion. I will just leave it be and let it die down, as you said I have my track record for DYKs and it speaks for itself. Thanks again for the kind words.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:24, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Madoc

Just noticed Pugh is back in the article as a source, would you please look at Talk:Madoc#Ellen Pugh not a reliable source. Dougweller (talk) 17:03, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Dougweller replied on the talk page. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:08, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Doyle Doss

Hiya: I added the actual click through link on the Doyle Doss sex offender registry page. Mr. Doss is well-known in this area for using his Wikipedia page to attempt to impress people with his bona-fides; which are pretty much zero. The New York Times article was written directly from his press release. I tried before to have this article removed and was overruled; I still do not believe this MAN is notable, the hummingbird feeder is only available from him; as are the "Candle heeters". It's like a Nigerian chain letter being repeated in Wiki as truth to see this one with a Wikipedia page. Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:13, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Click through link is better. But it apparently has a short shelf life.

There is also a National Sex Offender registry that has his name but no details. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:56, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Gloria Stuart

I've seen you heavily edit Gloria Stuart; you are probably more familiar with that artile than me. User:Miramaribelle asked on my talk page whether the "written like a personal reflection or opinion essay" tag could be removed. Could you please take a look and possibly give Miramaribelle some advice? At a very short glance the article didn't bad enough to require such a tag, but I haven't checked it thoroughly. Huon (talk) 21:40, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

User:Miramaribelle, I would advise that you take a hard look at this. Such phrases as "a standing ovation from her peers" drips with too much schmaltz. If we can write this from a WP:NPOV (less warm and fuzzy), I think we can lose the tag. I am with you in that I hate drive-by-taggers who throw on a tag, and can't be bothered to fix it. See my user page for my alternate tag. {:>{)> 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:45, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

A note to you

Dear Editor, I left you a brief note on my Miramaribelle talk page--I just found you here else I'd've written it here. Cheers! Miramaribelle (talk) 22:58, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

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Puppy for you, Hafspajen (talk) 05:56, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

I added some refs that goes around the idea of that sentence. Intellectual versus emotional. It was a translation, the article, so that sentence can be verified at the Spanish Wiki. In worst case removed,it is not a vital thing. Hafspajen (talk) 17:57, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

A reference library

Ah, that's a good one. It say: produced his most refined compositions on the subject of the Virgin Mary: The Madonna of the Book... and Madonna Magnificat

+ one little more

--Hafspajen (talk) 18:23, 3 December 2014 (UTC) Left a message to some editors that are rather knowledgeable about facts and stuff in art history - maybe something will come out of it. Hafspajen (talk) 20:03, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Ah, the rescue tropes arrived. Victoria is on the case. Hafspajen (talk) 01:07, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

My User Page

I changed my picture on my User Page.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:44, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Wanderer (Sailing Dinghy)

I notice that you have changed the outboard entry on the Wander page to say 'long shaft'. I use a normal shaft outboard without any issues, as do many other Wanderer owners. Is this change warranted? Mike Bennett (talk) 13:32, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

The long shaft was the fashion in this part of the U.S., namely when sailing on very large freshwater lakes (e.g., Lake Huron. I assumed the dealer had a good reason. Longshaft outboards offers some rough guidance. Not having tried the alternative, I can't dispute what you say. It probably depends on the waves (size of the body of water, amplitude, etc.) in which you use it. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:58, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Citation formatting

Hey, 7&6. I have reverted your changes to the Robert Cade article footnotes. The existing footnotes were consistently formatted, following a more traditional style than that rendered by the cite templates. There are some things to recommend the templates, but they are problematic in other ways. The use of the cite templates is not required by either GA or FA standards; I ask that you respect the existing format choices. Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 13:58, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Dirtlawyer1, It is a good article. Actually, it is a great article. However, there was no downside to putting in the templates. It was a better article with the citations improved, but it's your call. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:03, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Mentioned

I have mentioned you at Template:Did you know nominations/Lady Hutton.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:16, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

I have added you as a co-nominee. I appreciate all the assistance with the article. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 00:03, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Swift Lathers

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DYK for Mears News

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DYK for Swift Lathers museum

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Merry Christmas!

Jens Voigt has not been picked up yet on GA. I'll try to contribute my best to the transfers after January 1st, you're welcome to help :) Merry Christmas once again! :D Mattsnow81 (Talk) 17:59, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

It's been picked up :) By Otr500, I said to him you maybe would take part in the discussion ( see his talk page) Mattsnow81 (Talk) 19:27, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Best wishes for a happy holiday season

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Was listening to your tune the whole day yesterday. I was the only thing that kept me here. Thanks. Hafspajen (talk) 01:46, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

I hope it helped. You are a GREAT contributor, and fill a uhique niche in an important and vital subject area. Thanks for the warm wishes. Back at you, too. Stan 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:01, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Told you it did. It really helped. Cute girl too. You tell me I am a great contributor ... well - thanks, and return you the compliment. But sometimes I feel and experience that maybe some are not that happy about it. It is not so great experiencing it. Hafspajen (talk) 03:00, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Madonna of the Book

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

North American Piedmontese cattle nomination

Thank you!! I wondered how the notice got on the TP - thought maybe it was new auto feature. Atsme☯^Consult 21:18, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

PS - LOVE the ill-advised editor tag on your user page, and find it far too tempting.

• Earwig copyright violation tool search 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:25, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

I may have gotten the date wrong. Was this a 5X expansion, or did you bring it 'live' out of a sandbox somewhere? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:26, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

• Re: copyvio tool - lists, names, titles, dates, processes, and sequential facts are a non-issue regarding copyvio. Atsme☯^Consult 21:51, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

I understand that. If wouldn't be a problem to make things such as the sires into an alphabetical list? Just a suggestion. No accusation intended. I also know that at DYK you can encounter persons who will hallucinate copy vios even when the words are different. They start talking about "close paraphrasing" and "structure" and you don't want to deal with that. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:56, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Ok - I'll see what I can do, but I think there's a bigger issue. Something weird happened when I moved the article from my Sandbox to the mainspace. It redirects from another article I created in the Sandbox, Gabor B. Racz - See diff [6]. Uh oh. Any idea how to fix it, and prevent it from happening again? When I click on my Sandbox, it redirects to North American Piedmontese cattle. Whadda mess!! Thanks for helping. Atsme☯^Consult 22:06, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

No. The history clearly show that your article went to main space in December 22. You are clearly new enough, long enough. So nothing there to worry about. Just heed my advice on putting the article into a cuisinart, particularly those where you have commonalities with other sources. I know this is unfair, but take a look at Bill Smith (fell runner) and you'll see that I've been there, done that. And you don't want to go there. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:11, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Cuisinart - love it!! Doing it now. Thank you for your help - it is much appreciated. Atsme☯^Consult 22:15, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

A few years back the Ninja Movie reviewer did a review of several of the Pirates of the Caribbean (or one of its offshoots). He said that the story was so incomprehensible that it was like they took four or five scripts, packed it into a cannon, fired it and reassembled it. You get the idea. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:28, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Would you be so kind as to teach me how to use whatever it was you used? Signing off for now - will read article again in the AM when my brain is functioning.

Not sure what it is you want? Two tools I am using a lot: Earwig's Copyvio Detector and https://tools.wmflabs.org/fengtools/reflinks/ - This is the stable version of Reflinks. Paste the title of the article into the Page name textbox. It's also possible to choose using plain links or {{cite web}}: Empty citation (help) for the output. YOu can choose the article or a specific edit by number. If that doesn't answer your question, let me know. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:35, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

I was referring to the footnote templates. I had not seen them used before, and like how you applied it. I have since found the page Category:Footnote_templates. Thx - now I have to set out the milk & cookies for Santa. Atsme☯^Consult 03:24, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

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A kitteh for you!

thanks for the edit on the page about nina iliescu. i am such a klutz when it comes to editing stuff it scares me to death that im really going to do something wrong. so i did all i could work out to do, to let someone know that i thought i saw a problem. i havent even really worked out if theres an efficient way to message another user to discuss things - case in point '2th' !! have a spectacular 2015 - philip

SanaSazi (talk) 22:55, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. If I can help, let me know. You can learn by doing. You can also learn by clicking on the "history" of an article, and comparing the differential edits. It's work, but it is highly educational. I can't help you withi Visual editor, as I don't use it, and really don't know anything about it. Best of luck. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:59, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Lady Hutton

Harrias ^talk 00:02, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Great that you helped me with the Lady Hutton article. By the way Merry Christmas to you, I hope you had a great Christmas eve! Cheers!--BabbaQ (talk) 00:04, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

If you want to be added to another DYK nom you could take a look at the article Carolina Neurath that I have created. --BabbaQ (talk) 00:09, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

I've added a little. Most of the material on her is in Swedish, which is problematical for me. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:50, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Daniel Pabst

Thank you for your work on this. You cleaned it up beautifully. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 21:19, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the compliments and, again, all your improvements. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 03:15, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you and Merry Christmas. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 11:35, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Nice find on the University of Pennsylvania Press. Thanks again for your work. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind. I added a sentence about his business card. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:33, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi

Thank you for your assistance in the last few days! Could you please take a look at the article Karolina Olsson. Cheers.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:58, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination

Hello! Your submission of Stripped Classicism at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! I made some suggestions, which I hope you think are helpful. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 01:21, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year 7&6=thirteen!

Happy New Year!

7&6=thirteen,
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Stripped Classicism

Do you have this? Hafspajen (talk) 19:09, 31 December 2014 (UTC) ttp://goldie5.hubpages.com/hub/Classical-Eclecticism-Stripped-Classicism-and-the-Ascendency-of-Modernism what blacklist

?

?

Bundesarchiv Bild 183-1987-0812-301, Berlin, "Grand Hotel".

This one is sure

I don't have that. h[ttp://goldie5.hubpages.com/hub/Classical-Eclecticism-Stripped-Classicism-and-the-Ascendency-of-Modernism Classical Electicism Striped Clasicism and the Ascendency of Modernism] Will pass that on to Carptrash. Apparently there a black list problem? We will see. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:15, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Sometimes weird things are blacklisted, like Stocholms University papers and such, for no reson at all, I don't know who does this. But there is a way to go around it. Hafspajen (talk) 19:25, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Philip Johnson, [7] [8][9][10][11][12]

+??

Except for the Chicago examples, this work looks like New Formalism (architecture) and Postmodern architecture to me. If it is not from the 1930s give or take a few years, it is very unlikely to be Strip Class. Carptrash (talk) 21:19, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I was not sure about the images, Carptrash but try these. [13]

[14][15][16][17][18] Hafspajen (talk) 21:52, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Cade

Harrias ^talk 00:02, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

General Books

Generally, anything published by Books LLC (General Books) should not be included in Wikipedia articles. The company publishes Wikipedia and Wikia articles in print form, and, as such, its publications are neither reliable nor good gauges of notability. See WP:CIRCULAR. Seattle (talk) 10:47, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Acknowledged. I did have to look as to where I had used it. Thanks for the heads up. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 05:12, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy 2015

Dear Editor, May the new year bring you and yours happiness...and may your stress and frustration levels plummet. I think of you and your colleagues often...it was a bumpy but fascinating ride. Cheers! Miramaribelle (talk) 06:12, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Season's Greetings!

All the best for 2015! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 18:16, 2 January 2015 (UTC) (P.S. I just noticed this one - thanks for the laugh!)

DYK for Oceana County Historical & Genealogical Society

Harrias ^talk 12:02, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year 7&6=thirteen!

Happy New Year!

7&6=thirteen,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 17:19, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2015}} to user talk pages.

A SPECIAL THANK YOU!!!!

We're in the que!!! Thank you so much for your help in getting this article ready!!

DYK... that North American Piedmontese cattle (pictured) are a breed of beef cattle originating from the Italian Piedmontese cattle that carry a unique gene mutation that causes double muscling? Atsme☯^Consult 01:06, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Alan Hewitt

Hey, 7+6. Not trying to be a prick, but there is nothing in his bio tying him to Petoskey (Closest thing is he was born in Michigan, unreferenced). And the ref you added says nothing that I could find tying him to Petoskey. The page you linked was a sale page for an album, but not even the bio section had anything about Petoskey. John from Idegon (talk) 17:59, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

John from Idegon Sutton, Rene (April 2013). "Alan Hewitt — Featured Smooth Jazz Artist Archives Alan Hewitt – The Musical Force of Nature". The Smooth Jazz Ride. Retrieved January 4, 2015. Cheers! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:11, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Overzealous editors

Had to revert and manually edit some of the changes that were made to Piedmontese. The edits changed the intended meaning - obviously made by editors who aren't familiar with cattle or the terminology, and lacked your savvy about such things. I guess the DYK brought in some city-folk. --Atsme☯^Consult 00:11, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ambush of the steamboat J. R. Williams

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

You're too speedy

Now that I've actually had the time to type in my reasons at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doyle Doss, please go back over, read what I wrote and then take a stand? I had to override an "edit war" tag to enter my reasons for proposing deletion because you voted to oppose before I had an opportunity to present the case for deletion. I kept your entire comment, but humbly request that you look at it again and take a look at the sources which are obviously from press releases. Wiki notability is very careful to say "The evidence must show the topic has gained significant independent coverage or recognition, and that this was not a mere short-term interest, nor a result of promotional activity or indiscriminate publicity, nor is the topic unsuitable for any other reason. Sources of evidence include recognized peer reviewed publications, credible and authoritative books, reputable media sources, and other reliable sources generally." One article in New York Times, in response to a press release and a YouTube, and a personal website is not "significant independent coverage," else the wiki would be full of people with Etsy accounts but no other notability!! Ellin Beltz (talk) 20:49, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Ellin: The NY Times article does not appear to be a press release to me. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:57, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

It clearly says in the article that it was written due to the subject sending in an email which included link to his YouTube. Thus it fails the filter "and that this was not a mere short-term interest, nor a result of promotional activity or indiscriminate publicity," as I stated in my list of reasons. Since the subject initiated the discussion with the reporter, it is a result of promotional activity. Ellin Beltz (talk) 21:16, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

I see what you are pointing to. I think that anybody who makes it into the pages of the NY Times has more notability than me. He didn't pay for the space. Whether that is enough or not I leave to you or others. Good luck. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:23, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Army rations in the 4th dimension

Just wanted to thank you for your lovely Dobos taut, which has more juicy layers that I know what to do with. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:49, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Very punny. Glad you like it. Pass it on. I made it (the page, that is). 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:52, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

You're more persuasive than Daniel Craig! Martinevans123 (talk) 00:00, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't even have a 4th dimensional gun! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:02, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Apprapos your other pun, there was a fascinating article today on "The Arrow of Time". I don't have the cite offhand, but you should be able to find it. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:03, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Arrer a' time, you say? ah yes, me 'ansum, I'll be readin' 'bout that dreckly. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:01, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Martinevans123, This was not the article I had read, but it is a good one nonetheless. Wolchover, Natalie (April 16, 2014). "PHYSICS: Time's Arrow Traced to Quantum Source". Quanta Magazine. Retrieved January 10, 2014.. Enjoy. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:22, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

For You

	Violette-bouquet
	A Violette-bouquet because you kept me cheerful - when I was not. Hafspajen (talk) 23:44, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Very much. You made my day. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:13, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

. The same. Hafspajen (talk) 10:43, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for William Maurice (antiquary)

The DYK project (nominate) 13:04, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Like

Like When Crossing the Dessert

Like Birch in storm

Hafspajen (talk) 21:28, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I hope all is well! Cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:11, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Spanish Hill

Thank you for changing the references to the newer style! Those are still a bit confusing to me. I recently returned from a long absence, and the old style was preferred while I was previously active. The new ones seem a lot more user-friendly.-RHM22 (talk) 16:00, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

You are welcome. I like sfn. But there are those who don't, as I've found out the hard way. Hard to teach an old dog new tricks; I keep learning myself. I like your little article. Someone needs to look and cite to the contrary literature — meaning Kent 1984:300-301, McCracken 1984. Best regards. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:09, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I agree about the contrary viewpoints alluded to but not explicitly mentioned in the article. I don't have access to those at the moment, but I may be able to source them.-RHM22 (talk) 20:04, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Oklahoma Barnstar Award

Hi 7&6=thirteen (☎)

		The Oklahoma Barnstar
		Please accept this barnstar for your recent work on the Oklahoma Project article Ambush of the steam boat J. R. Richards. Thanks for your participation, which was very helpful in getting the article posted. Bruin2 (talk) 20:24, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. An unexpected surprise. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:09, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Stripped Classicism

Do you have this? Hafspajen (talk) 19:09, 31 December 2014 (UTC) ttp://goldie5.hubpages.com/hub/Classical-Eclecticism-Stripped-Classicism-and-the-Ascendency-of-Modernism what blacklist

?

?

Bundesarchiv Bild 183-1987-0812-301, Berlin, "Grand Hotel".

This one is sure I don't have that. h[ttp://goldie5.hubpages.com/hub/Classical-Eclecticism-Stripped-Classicism-and-the-Ascendency-of-Modernism Classical Electicism Striped Clasicism and the Ascendency of Modernism] Will pass that on to Carptrash. Apparently there a black list problem? We will see. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:15, 31 December 2014 (UTC) Berlin, Mitte, Friedrichstrasse 157-164, Westin Grand.jpg Sometimes weird things are blacklisted, like Stocholms University papers and such, for no reson at all, I don't know who does this. But there is a way to go around it. Hafspajen (talk) 19:25, 31 December 2014 (UTC) Philip Johnson, [7] [8][9][10][11][12]

+?? Berlin, Tiergarten, Potsdamer Platz, Beisheim Center 01.jpg

Except for the Chicago examples, this work looks like New Formalism (architecture) and Postmodern architecture to me. If it is not from the 1930s give or take a few years, it is very unlikely to be Strip Class. Carptrash (talk) 21:19, 31 December 2014 (UTC) Oh, I was not sure about the images, Carptrash but try these. [13] [14][15][16][17][18] Hafspajen (talk) 21:52, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Carolina Neurath

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:22, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Stripped Classicism

Do you have this? Hafspajen (talk) 19:09, 31 December 2014 (UTC) ttp://goldie5.hubpages.com/hub/Classical-Eclecticism-Stripped-Classicism-and-the-Ascendency-of-Modernism what blacklist

?

?

Bundesarchiv Bild 183-1987-0812-301, Berlin, "Grand Hotel".

This one is sure I don't have that. h[ttp://goldie5.hubpages.com/hub/Classical-Eclecticism-Stripped-Classicism-and-the-Ascendency-of-Modernism Classical Electicism Striped Clasicism and the Ascendency of Modernism] Will pass that on to Carptrash. Apparently there a black list problem? We will see. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:15, 31 December 2014 (UTC) Berlin, Mitte, Friedrichstrasse 157-164, Westin Grand.jpg Sometimes weird things are blacklisted, like Stocholms University papers and such, for no reson at all, I don't know who does this. But there is a way to go around it. Hafspajen (talk) 19:25, 31 December 2014 (UTC) Philip Johnson, [7] [8][9][10][11][12]

+?? Berlin, Tiergarten, Potsdamer Platz, Beisheim Center 01.jpg

Except for the Chicago examples, this work looks like New Formalism (architecture) and Postmodern architecture to me. If it is not from the 1930s give or take a few years, it is very unlikely to be Strip Class. Carptrash (talk) 21:19, 31 December 2014 (UTC) Oh, I was not sure about the images, Carptrash but try these. [13] [14][15][16][17][18] Hafspajen (talk) 21:52, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Carolina Neurath

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:22, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Can I dislike your name?

Kidding, but I noticed you may have not gotten the ping I sent from Template:Did you know nominations/Stripped Classicism. It's been languishing here since the end of last year. As the nominator, do you feel like continuing with it? Fuebaey (talk) 01:42, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry that you dislike my name. Given my history, its rather late in the game to change it.

Fuebaey, I was aware of your edits, as I was watching the page.

If course, I feel like continuing. It is long enough, new enough and well cited enough for a DYK.

I understand your concerns. However, I am at a loss where to begin to satisfy them and you. I had hoped that User:Carptrash would jump into the breach, as he is more in tune with the nuances of these architectural styles, and working with the matrix that he created in the article. I would like to come to a consensus on how we all can proceed to get this up to your standard. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 01:52, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Apologies, I meant no slight (my poor attempt at a joke, highlighting how buggy the notifications system is). This is just a courtesy ping, given that it's been reviewed and near the top of the nom list. I haven't actually looked at the article. If you feel it's good enough as it is for DYK, you could ask the original reviewer or another person to look at it again. Fuebaey (talk) 02:19, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Karolina Olsson

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:46, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Cronica Walliae

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:16, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Shinola

.... then we go through Shinola.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:15, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
I know the difference = the one that smells nicer is the one you put on your shoes.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:43, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
My father (1919-1992) used this expression all the time, but I never knew where it came from until now.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:23, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

We are going through snow, here, not merde. I think this article looks a lot better now. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:46, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia is full of obscure stuff. A lot of it you wrote. Cheers! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:12, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

I see --- you are saying that I am full of it (full of good knowledge that is = wanted to make that clear {hehehe}).--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:24, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

It's not a zero sum game. The knowledge you share increases your own. I think. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:28, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, indeed it does. In fact, I believe I am money ahead.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:49, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Generally speaking, it's an opportunity = in the long run I leverage my efforts.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:53, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Noms

I have nominated two articles, Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Maggie Gyllenhaal and Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Ronnie Lee Gardner to feature at the TFA section. Take a look.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:36, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Sakotis!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's a Sakotis for you! This cake promotes WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving this cake to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others! Happy editing! Hafspajen (talk) 12:03, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Smaczne przepisy. Dziekuje. Na zdrowie! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:19, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Thomas James Wise

I'm not sure how to fix the last paragraph in the "Forgeries and thefts" section. Looks like you forgot a reference and part of a quote. Bgwhite (talk) 07:00, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Bgwhite Thanks.  Fixed  Done 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:38, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Helpful fellow Wikipedian

	One of the Best Wikipedians for Having Advised Me
	Thank you. You are one of the best Wikipedians for having given me useful advice on my Talk page. Solomonfromfinland (talk) 08:12, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Solomonfromfinland Thank you. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 09:02, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Your help

Thanks for dropping by, and no, I don't mind, nor do I own the article, though I would like to shepherd it through GA, if not this time then maybe next time around. It is good to know I'm not alone in thinking it's ok.Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:31, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

You are Preaching to the choir. Amen, brother. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:33, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

The ref "" seems to be wrong, perhaps the second half of it needs moving. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:21, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

On the 'historical antecedents', we need to be very careful to include only items directly connected to Russia, as the second paragraph seems to be; the first paragraph probably belongs not here but in military deception, unless you are thinking of tying the two paragraphs together more strongly. Otherwise we're pulling the article away from its distinctive Russianness towards the general topic, possibly creating a fork. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:39, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Could it be put in as a separate section such as "Historical antecedents." The concepts did not originate with Lenin or Zhukov. I was trying to give this more historical context. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:42, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

I put in "Historical antecedents" as a section, and moved the material. It leads in directly to the Soviet doctrine.

I also have a problem with one of the citations, which uses author "authority control," I don't really know what that is. I would change the citation to a template, but don't want to screw something up. I would also like to add this author link: Samuel B. Griffith if it is the right one. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:37, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

I can't see "authority control" anywhere. Your Griffith is surely correct, I've linked him and merged the paragraphs per discussion. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:48, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

I saw it in the Art of War article. Put in a template. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:00, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Re yr cmt: Yes, there's something wrong over there. WP at least has clear policies on weasel words. I'm against recentism (an unconscious or unthinking bias in many articles); luckily most of the recent stuff in this case is from sources we can reject. I hadn't expected this history article to be political; I think that with most editors it wouldn't be; but it's better we talk here, if anywhere. Thanks. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:53, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

On your suggested source, I'm not sure that's a WP:RS, and it's certainly recent and political as in the paragraph above. Personally, I'd wait five or ten years for the dust to settle, and perhaps it will have been written about more objectively by then. I'm totally against any suggestion of sneaky behaviour; that charge would in any case stick just as well to British deceptions in WWII. So I'd much rather not go near it. Please. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:08, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I do think it applies. But "Nothing to see here" apparently works. It reminds me of pictures in 1939 where Joseph Goebbels flashed pictures of a map of Germany, showing with big arrows the direction of the Poles in their "invasion into the heart of Germany." Nothing to see here is going on in GA, too. But I asked your opinion, and now I've got it. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:16, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for suggestions. I found Pirnie 1985, a really very well written analysis, that happily confirms what's in the WWII part of the article as the major details. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:49, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Good material. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:51, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

References

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dragonmead and Dragonmead microbrewery

There is an ongoing discussion. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dragonmead 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:33, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Nice work finding and mining sources to improve the Dragonmead article; it's looking much better now. The AFD looks like a probable snow close in the near future too. Yunshui 雲水 15:54, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

By the way, I've intentionally left all the infobox parameters in, albeit blank - feel free to flesh it out as you expand the article. Yunshui ^雲_水 15:55, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I am going to see if I can find some print sources. Maybe the brewery (I live within 2 miles) has a clippings file. Although they are good brewers, I'm not sure they are that well organized. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:01, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

.

Night and Sleep - Evelyn de Morgan (1878)

:7&6=thirteen is Hope in a Prison of Despair

User: Hafspajen Thank you for sharing. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:19, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Division Street Bridge (Rhode Island)

Thanks for helping out, and I saw you added the source about Foster which was from a blog... probably the best to put it in a note because of that. Thanks for the improvements and fixes to pass the GA review. I just got online and saw it. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 05:14, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Stripped Classicism

Allen3 ^talk 12:28, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Abbey Brewing Company

Hey, thanks for the additions. Great working with you on this article. Skyerise (talk) 15:25, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

My pleasure. I would like to be included as a creator in the DYK. I already donated a WP:QPQ. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:28, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

No problem... Skyerise (talk) 16:39, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

New Wikiroom

today everybody gets wikirooms

Hafspajen (talk) 22:35, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. My room is not quite that opulent, but I do have a place for my computer! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:42, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

I hope not... because it seems to have very unusual and inconsistent dimensions. I'm not a fan of 20-foot ceilings, but I dare say that the ceiling must be dome-shaped! ChrisGualtieri (talk) 23:09, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

I stayed many times in a room that actually looked a lot like this, and had very high cove ceilings and paintings that augur this painting. In fact, this is a place that deserves its own wikipedia article. Very historic place. Ramsdell Inn Manistee, Michigan. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:15, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Very thoughtful. What a nice gesture. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:21, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Well, there was ... King Gustav III of Sweden and his Brothers, mainspaced 17th, may be too late? also too close parahrasing might be a problem. Hafspajen (talk) 23:26, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

We will nominate then cure. If you have a close paraphrasing issue, fix it. I use my enhanced Oxford Thesaurus (which came with the word processor Corel WordPerfect a lot. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy. You can do that after it is nominated. What do you think should be the hook? If it turns out we are too late, so be it. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:33, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

CAN*T fix it. I can't paraphrase. No talent. Hafspajen (talk) 23:36, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Hook? Well ... 2 kings in the same picture? Hafspajen (talk) 23:37, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

• DYK ... that the painting depicts three brothers and two future kings? ^{Eh? A woman's place is in the home...? What kind of page is that ..}

Hafspajen (talk) 23:40, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

I am concerned about two things with this nomination. You put it out in dribs and drabs, so to speak. Over a period of several weeks. This may get us shut down on timeliness, or depending on which iteration they decide is the base, potentially a problem with the size of the expansion. I would say that it is a wonderful little article, and that the door to a GA is open, at which time you can then get a 'no brainer' DYK. But I'll go forward if you want. Letameno. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:49, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

You say it was a new article (main spaced) on the 17th. I think we should go for it. OK. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:51, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

I think so, check. Hafspajen (talk) 00:04, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Nominated it. Contributing this Template:Did you know nominations/Paradise Circus, Birmingham which I reviewed. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:05, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Hafspajen (talk) 00:54, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

• AGLA: Hafspajen (talk) 19:40, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

• Ankh wedja seneb 19:58, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Wa (watercraft)

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:01, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

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Prior thread

Hi, I pass out the DS alert for climate change to most climate article editors. Doesn't mean anything but FYI NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 15:14, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Good addition

Thanks, that's good. Needs some cleaning up NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 15:45, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Dope slap, should have checked the time. Have at it NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 15:46, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

No problem. I know this is a bigger problem. The climate change deniers and the global warming derisionists don't want to actually look at evidence. And considerations of cost have overridden receptivity to evidence. The chairmen of the U.S. Senate committee wrote a book supporting human caused global warming, but now says that he believed in it until "I saw the cost." I am not trying to push a political agenda at all.

And local weather is different than global warming. I for one expect a repeat of last summer, a very cold summer in Michigan, as the Great Lakes are once again completely frozen over (or about to be). 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:52, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Nordhouse Dunes could be frozen solid now, but buckle up. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 17:23, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Dragonmead

Your recent edits were discourteous to me, but I won't edit war. Please contribute to the discussion I've created at Talk:Dragonmead#Non-encyclopedic_content. Thank you. --Dweller (talk) 15:05, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm glad. Thanks for explaining. --Dweller (talk) 16:15, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

I was getting beat up over at Little Ice Age. like you, it got my focus. Like you, I'm not going to edit war. Indeed. the Wikipolice have put warnings and sanctions in place in that article to enforce their orthodoxy. So I am going away quietly. I removed it from my watch list, as it is a fight not worth fighting, and above my pay grade. I am hoping that 21st Century mini-ice age conjecture will be left alone or developed further.7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:19, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the cake. Don't tell my other half that I ate it. --Dweller (talk) 21:20, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Your secret is safe with me. I created that trifle (electronically, I mean).

Now if you can just come to my neighborhood bar, Dragonmead is within 2 miles, we can share a pint. I'll buy. And the food is actually pretty good, too. It was almost nonexistent before, and was woeful at that. The two problems with this establishment are that the service can be spotty, and it has been take over by Yuppies, instead of the old crowd. I think you can find some comments about the former on line, but the latter is left to the afficionados and devotees of Craft Brew. They also went through 'growing pains' in their technical transition, and some of the beer did not live up to my expectations. But I hope for the best. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Italian cruiser Marco Polo

In the future, please do not convert cite formats to your preferred sfn in articles that use another format as per WP:CITE. I believe that your time and energy could be more profitably used on other Wiki tasks.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:11, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Understood. It's your cross, not mine. Apparently you don't see the improvement. I will avoid you and your predilections in the future. Happy editing. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Brown Windsor Soup

Hello. Not sure if you have followed the discussion on the talk page. The situation has changed significantly. Another editor has found unequivocal evidence of Brown Windsor soup existing in the 1920s and 1930s. I posted that information in the article, but you deleted it. I will be happy to email you the PDFs of newspaper clippings verifying this. The theories about this being a legend, or conflated with the soap etc.. are hogwash. The soup was real and existed and there is concrete evidence for it. We can still provide multiple POVs but the article really needs to emphasis that this soup existed in the 1920s and 30s on the menus of restaurants. -- GreenC

User:Green Cardamom Thanks for calling that to my attention. You are correct. I missed that. I do think that deleting the other material is the wrong route. I would rather integrate it and expand. I can't get to this for a couple of days. Perhaps you can take a whack at it. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:40, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

I'll take a look. I know you worked on it and don't mean any disrespect. Thanks for reconsidering. The offer is still open to send the menus, seeing them in person makes it more apparent the soup wasn't fiction (at least in the 20s and 30s). -- GreenC 14:46, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Feel free to send them. If you need my e-mail address, just e-mail me via wikimail and I'll reply so that you can send it direct. I didn't mean any disrespect either. If there are articles it would be good to get a citation, even if we don't have access to the British newspaper archive. Personally, I would like this to be a GA someday. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:49, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Precious

film classicism
Thank you, gnomish user ready to "make the world a better place through shared knowledge", for quality articles such as Trial film, Pauline Bebe and Stripped Classicism, done in collaboration, for welcoming and warning, for sharing "seven layers of fun" and for missing, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:25, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt Thank you. That was a bolt out of the blue, and is truly both unexpected and appreciated. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:17, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Stripped Classicism

Allen3 ^talk 12:28, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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Édouard Bisson - Love’s Messengers

Houses at Auvers. Must be mad. Hafspajen (talk) 20:29, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Hans Thoma Bachmotiv mit Wiese und Felsen

Can't really be a dead link, http://www.tfsimon.com/auvers-sur-oise.html ...

Vincent van Gogh is a symbol for the eternal problem with mankind: his questing for the meaning of life and the truth. In the course of his life everybody discovers life has no meaning, difference works up hatred and the truth has several versions... Vincent's life was short but his struggle for love and recognition was long and in the end unbearable. He had to get rid of the mortgage everybody gets from the so-called education you get from your parents and other people in your early-life. Everybody is a prisoner of his time and education. Vincent, too, but he wanted to do a lot in his own way, as a consequence people didn't understand him, were even hostile to him; this made him sometimes rebellious and he often felt lonesome. But as many people with mental problems, his imagination played a prominent part in the way he believed other people thought about him and his art. Van Gogh is often thought of as a loner, yet during his career he was surrounded by artists. He brought people together, provoked discussions, acted as a mediator between temperamental artists, and encouraged experiments and exhibitions. These artists in turn influenced Van Gogh’s personal and artistic development. During his ten-year artistic career, from 1880-1890, Van Gogh was highly creative. A full 864 paintings and almost 1,200 drawings and prints have survived. He was active in The Netherlands, until the call of France was irresistible, like for so many artists before and after him (like Tavik František Šimon). From 1886-1888 he was in Paris, from 1888-1889 in Arles, from 1889-1890 in Saint-Rémy, where he tried to recover from a mental illness and finally, from May, 20, 1890 until his death, July 29, 1890, he was in Auvers-sur-Oise, in order to recover completely. In May 1890 Vincent visited his brother Theo and his family in Paris and then settled in Auvers-sur-Oise, a little village at the river Oise around 30 kilometres from Paris. The town was chosen because Paul Gachet, a doctor, artist and collector, was living there, he agreed to take care of Vincent. Vincent managed to find himself a very small room in an inn owned by Arthur Gustave Ravoux and immediately began painting the environs of Auvers-sur-Oise. Van Gogh came to Auvers-sur-Oise, on May 20, 1890. “Auvers is very pretty,” he wrote to Theo, “there is countryside all around, typical and picturesque.” Auvers was an artists’ village, where painters such as Armand Guillaumin, Camille Pissarro, Charles-François Daubigny, Jean-Baptiste-Camille Corot and Paul Cézanne had already worked.

If you can't acces it, this is what it writes. Hafspajen (talk) 20:50, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Throughout June, Vincent remained in good spirits and was remarkably productive, painting some of his best known works. The initial tranquillity of the first month in Auvers was interrupted, however, when Vincent received news that his nephew was seriously ill. Theo had been going through a most difficult time throughout the previous few months: uncertainty about his own career and future, ongoing health problems and finally his own son's illness. Following the baby's recovery, Vincent decided to visit Theo and his family on 6 July and caught an early train. Very little is known about the visit, but Johanna, Theo's wife, writing years later, would suggest that the day was strained and fairly tense. Vincent eventually felt overwhelmed and quickly returned to the more quiet sanctuary of Auvers. During the next three weeks Vincent kept on painting and, as his letters suggest, was reasonably happy. To his mother and sister Vincent wrote: "For the present I am feeling much calmer than last year, and really the restlessness in my head has greatly quieted down." (Letter 650) Vincent was absorbed in the fields and plains around Auvers and produced some brilliant landscapes throughout July. In Auvers Van Gogh painted more then 70 pictures. During these last weeks of his life it was only due to his work that he could forget about his illness, and he painted as if possessed. Among the works of the period are a religious work after Delacroix, The Pieta, The Church of Auvers, multiple landscapes and portraits. On the evening of the 27th July 1890 Van Gogh went at dusk into the fields and shot himself. With all his strength he managed to drag himself back to the inn; here he died two days later in the arms of his brother, who had hurried to his side. Besides Theo and Dr. Gachet some friends from Paris, amongst them Bernard and “Père” Tanguy, took part in the funeral.

Also this... Hafspajen (talk) 20:51, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Vincent van Gogh repeated the motif of peasant huts on many occasions: "In my opinion, the most marvellous of all that I know in the sphere of architecture is huts with their roofs of moss-grown straw and a smoky hearth," wrote van Gogh in one of his letters. The thatched roofs seem to be just as much an organic part of nature as the hills, fields and sky. The hilly relief of the distance allowed the artist to accentuate the dynamics of space, which he reinforced through the use of colour contrasts. The tense, wavy brushstrokes and lines convey the artist's perception of life and the world. During these last few weeks of his life, Van Gogh painted a few portraits but mainly a large number of landscapes among which is "Les Vessenots," the part of Auvers where Dr Gachet -the first owner of this painting- lived. The work is characteristic of Van Gogh's pictorial language at the end of his life, in which he combines very reduced and schematised compositions with a narrow palette of luminous greens and yellows and the use of agitated and nervous brushstrokes which follow a waving and repetitive rhythm. The composition is a horizontal one with a typically raised horizon, grouping together a number of old cottages, some with thatched roofs, alongside extensive fields of wheat and a few waving trees. Although he always painted in front of the subject, the painting is a very personal vision of the landscape. Van Gogh transformed what he saw into something profoundly personal, giving visual form to the emotions which the landscape in front of him inspired in him. The fertile fields around Auvers produced conflicting feelings within him: the sensation of freedom which he had in front of these broad fields was counterbalanced by melancholy and a sensation of loneliness brought on by the sight of the wheat.

And this. Hafspajen (talk) 20:53, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite. I may not get to this much for the next couple of days, as I have to work and be on the road. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:54, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

No problem, I don't know either it this will be big or small. Hafspajen (talk) 20:57, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

You are a scholar and an aficionados of the arts. Thank you, Hafspajen 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:21, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

• I am what I amHafspajen (talk) 21:25, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Abbey Brewing Company

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 10:27, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

!Vandalism

I can understand that you are nervous to write on my talk page but this matter does not require email. OK, I unreservedly withdraw all accusations of vandalism. Regarding your second !vandalism, a moment's investigation shows what happened: you edited an old version of the page like this. It is an easy mistake to make - I have done it myself. But as to NewJerseyLenape (talk · contribs), I will say most emphatically: just because someone has provided an email address that is no reason to force them to use email. There was an an hint that this user might be persuadable to make useful contributions so it was a good thing to teach them talk page conventions asap. If you were to do the utterly boring thing of working through my edits to my talk page, you would find that I regularly, silently remove email addresses. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:13, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

User: NewJerseyLenape Talk was where I suggested he write you direct. He had himself provided the e-mail address, so I think "force to use e-mail is" a forced conclusion. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Happy editing. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:40, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

You completely deleted NewJerseyLenape's message from my talk page. If that is not forcing them to use email, it is something very close. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:39, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

As I explained in the e-mail, I didn't intend to do that. I don't know how or why that occurred. I concede it did. But it was unintentional. I know you corrected it, and I think you. Shit happens. Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:23, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Brooklyn Museum - Staten Island and the Narrows - Thomas Chambers

Houses at Auvers

:Ernest Lawson - New England Birches

Hello 7&6=Thirteen -- I see you've been working on Houses at Auvers. All your edits look fine. Earlier, at the request of User:Hafspajen, I paraphrased some large paragraphs that Hafs left on my talk page (worked on it in my sandbox). I had done it in two stages. Hafs added the first half of the section Houses at Auvers#Auvers about two days ago, and then I added the second half today. However, in the interim, a short sentence was added after the first batch so that there is no longer a smooth transition between the two halves. I thought I'd point it out to you so that, if you feel like it, you could help smooth this over. I'll copy the last sentence of the first batch, the short added sentence, and the first sentence of the second batch, here:

• Throughout the months of May, June and July 1890, van Gogh painted many paintings, including the fields and many of the peasants' huts in the area.[8] Van Gogh was fascinated by the village.[9][10] He seemed to find the thatched huts especially fascinating. (This is followed by a quote to illustrate the last sentence.)

Now, it goes from the huts, to the village, and back to the huts. There is also now "was fascinated by" and "fascinating". I was going to delete the middle sentence since I think the third sentence is sufficient, but I hesitated because I saw the middle sentence has two reference numbers. Since Hafs told me he had already added the reference for the material s/he asked me to paraphrase, it is possible that those references are the same as the ones for all the paraphrasing I did, both before and after that sentence. What do you think? Should the short middle sentence just be deleted?

If you look at my sandbox at User:CorinneSD/sandbox#Houses at Auvers, you will see that I struggled more with the last part than I did with the first. The original paragraphs are on my talk page at User talk:CorinneSD#New article. I tried my best to reword the most important parts. I don't know if the parts I put in parentheses (such as "luminous greens and yellows") are too close to the original text. Can you look at that? Thanks. CorinneSD (talk) 00:30, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Did a major rewrite and copy edit to integrate the material. You may need to stipple in extra citations to cover the text. I put it into a Cuisinart and dumped it into a pan. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:50, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Earwig's Copy violation detector] says we are GTG. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 01:13, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

I had never seen that Earwig's Copy violation detector. Is that a serious website? What percentage confidence does it have to be above, or below? I see you didn't remove that sentence, "Van Gogh was fascinated by the village," that I felt disrupted the flow of sentences. Perhaps you haven't yet had a chance to look at it. CorinneSD (talk) 01:54, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

• User:Earwig is a serious editor. Hafspajen (talk) 11:45, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Earwig's Copyvio Detector link. Put it in your toolbox. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:29, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

I will, thanks. What's the connection between the WP editor and the Copyvio Detector, if any? CorinneSD (talk) 16:51, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

I don't know. I only know that it is a serious tool that is very helpful. The one limitation on it is that it will also find sources that used/plagiarized wikipedia articles. So You should be aware. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:53, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your e-mails with the additional material on van Gogh. The first one (in English -- the only one I can read) was very interesting. I never knew about that period in his life or the details of his early adulthood, including that he tried to become a preacher. I also liked the three paintings that were included in the article. I had never seen those before. I wonder if they are in the van Gogh article. The other article (in Dutch) was interesting in the way it was put together, with the supplementary images moving in from the sides. Thank you again. CorinneSD (talk) 01:56, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

CorinneSD, I'm confused. The second one was from the BBC and also was in English. I have sent you send you the text via e-mail. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:27, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

• Sure, in about two days I will, right now I am rather stressed. Hafspajen (talk) 21:20, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

I put in some text and quotes. Buttoned it up, I think. Take a look at your leisure. No worries; no hurries.

7&6=thirteen, first, thank you for your e-mail. Second, I see em-dashes with spaces either side of them in the article. Rather than just change them, I thought I'd point to something in MoS regarding dashes: MOS:EMDASH. You can use either unspaced em-dashes or spaced en-dashes. CorinneSD (talk) 22:59, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Please change them to suit The WP:MOS. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:00, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

I made the necessary changes. Then I noticed date ranges with a hyphen. See MOS:ENDASH. Do you want me to change the hyphens to en-dashes? CorinneSD (talk) 23:12, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Honest, you DON'T NEED my permission. Have at it. I do so much copy that I will – I guarantee it – make misstakes. 7&6=thirteen (☎)

Sorry I reverted your edit, but I couldn't sort it out, the link was working before so I simply reverted to that version. Hafspajen (talk) 21:23, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Hafs, what reversion are you talking about. I don't know. Am confused. No apologies are necessary anyway. I know we're on the same team. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:31, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

I know you both know what you're doing, but I was surprised to see all those little reference numbers in a row in the lede. I don't remember seeing so many in a row in other articles. Is that all right? CorinneSD (talk) 23:13, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

I put them in so I think its all right. It happens that there are a lot of good sources directly on this particular painting. I follow WP:Bold and WP:No rules. This happened to be the most effective way to present the story. Do you have a contrary opinion and a better option? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:25, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

No. I know nothing about adding references to articles. I just hadn't remembered seeing that before. CorinneSD (talk) 23:39, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

I moved them around. Broke them up a little. They are now where (IMHO) I think they should be. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:41, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

OK. Hafspajen (talk) 13:46, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

We need one specific citation for the Influence section. One of you put this section in. DYK rules/practices are clear that this has to be papered over. Can Hafspajen or CorinneSD take care of it? Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:49, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Hafspajen or CorinneSD I put in a citation and link. If you have another or better one please add it. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:51, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Note 23 in the current iteration is a dead link. M'aidez, s'il vous plaît. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:56, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Hafs, can you take care of this? CorinneSD (talk) 15:26, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, it is a new article, and all links worked when I put that in. I wonder if these Laofeng zi - things don't messs up links. It is always some link dead after reformatting. I think it could possibly be agood idea to leave them as they were when they still worked. Hafspajen (talk) 15:29, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Just figure out what it was an put it back in. It's a small blemish on what I think is a beautiful article. Like somebody just keyed the bonnet of your new Mercedes. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:43, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

I fixed 23 http://vangoghletters.org/vg/letters/let874/letter.html Note 25 is still dead. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:17, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

A also fixed 25. Done. All the links work. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:53, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

SEND ME my new new Mercedes. I will forward address and everything as soon you are ready. Thank you. Prefer silver or mwtallic. Hafspajen (talk) 18:14, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

I fixed it. Don't I get it? Actually, since I will only buy American union made cars, I don't want the stinking Mercedes. What model do you want? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:19, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

OK. LORD, hear my voice, give me a Mercedes. SLS, thank you, if you are in business, anyway. And top it with a G-Class. Like those too. Hafspajen (talk) 18:47, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

PS, could settle for a simple Volvo too... Hafspajen (talk) 18:48, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Your too late. Hah. I've already given yours and there is nothing you can do. Sorry, but I hear the AMG is buggy, and you might want to trade it in. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:50, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Oh, don't worry, I do with several, no problems. Hafspajen (talk) 18:53, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

• I don't know anything about GAs but I'm not sure if it's close to being ready yet for the Houses at Auvers. Crisco 1492, or Sagaciousphil who maybe maybe can ask Eric who is an expert, maybe we can ask him if he thinks it's ready or not first? Sagaciousphil, Eric, would you tell us please and maybe even give us some advice on things we need to fix? Hafspajen (talk) 14:55, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Much prefer something like this nowadays, but some extra Mercedes is always good to have

• I don't think it is quite ready, no. It's rather awkwardly written in several places, and it's ridiculous to support the first sentence in the lead with seven citations, even though the last three are duplicates. Why does that first sentence need to be cited at all? Eric Corbett 15:14, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

I know next to nothing about that process (although I did do a couple of GA reviews). So I would defer to those with expertise. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:09, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

• 7&6=thirteen this is Eric, Eric, this 7&6=thirteen. Eric is though but has a long long long list of GAs and FAs ... we certainly need a little advice. I was hiccuping at 7&6=thirteen in the wong language, and so, but mostly because I have NO CLUE whatsoevwer of GAs. Hafspajen (talk) 15:21, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

7&6=thirteen, do your friends all drive Porsch-eees? Sca (talk) 15:39, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

One. And it's an oldie Speedster he has from long ago.
But it is a really good song. I never could figure out the peculiar logic of Mercedes Benz using it in their advertisements. You had to listen to one line in isolation, I guess. And they weren't playing the whole song, so they cut it to suit their message. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:55, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Sca, I once had to do with one Porsch-eee - it is like sitting on the floor. Never missed it again when it was gone. Hafspajen (talk) 15:58, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Vincent's Wagen

Well, I myself am proud owner of a car designed by Ferdinand Porsche Sr. (with help from Franz Xaver Reimspiess, among others). Has great ground clearance. Be glad to trade it for that Speedster, though.... Sca (talk) 18:03, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

I did own a 1958 black VW Beetle and a yellow 1971 VW Superbeetle convertible. They were fun, even though they were technologically very basic and probably unsafe in the event of a collision. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:19, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

What collision? Sca (talk) 18:38, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

No collision. However, my sense was that these were very basic and not very well protected. Thin walled, thin doors. Flimsy. Of course, the 58 did not even have a seat belt. This is with the benefit of 40+ years of intervening technology. My Lincoln LS is a far larger and safer car and gets mileage that betters the old buggies. But they were fun to drive. I think my parents wanted me to have the first one because they preferred me to drive it rather than a motorcycle – which some of my friends were acquiring at the time. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:45, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

North American Piedmontese cattle

We graduated to GA on March 14, 2015 - Great collaboration - THANK YOU!!! Atsme☯^Consult 20:37, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Atsme Thanks. Back at you. Great job. THANK YOU!. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:40, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

If it had been a tiramisu, I would have been yours forever! LessHeard vanU (talk) 10:21, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm puzzled ...

... by this edit summary. Can you please explain your objection to my edits there? Thanks, Paul August ☎ 11:47, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Removing red links is at best controversial. Depends on whether there might be an article there. Leaving them might encourage others to create the articles. Happy editing. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:00, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

I've replied here. Paul August ☎ 13:55, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Promoted

I see your DYK nomination just got promoted to Prep area 3. They are using the picture and put you first in queue. It should get a lot of hits when it comes out as an official DYK in a few days. Good luck.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:37, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Other than the gratuitous elimination of references by one of our esteemed editors, I am very happy. I'll let it go until it appears on the main page.

Thanks for the review. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:47, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

?

Why did you remove my edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Foschizo (talk • contribs) 15:09, 21 March 2015‎

I already gave you an explanation at your talk page. Unlinked red link with no evidence of notability WP:GNG and no citation to a WP:RS. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 01:37, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Houses at Auvers

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Justin Capră

I'm surprised to see your revert there - given your earlier copyedits, I thought you were one of the good guys in this sterile conflict. Anyway, what exactly is there to discuss? We have a version that's cited, conforms to the relevant policies, and is at least decent. Not perfect, there's always room for improvement, but a good starting point. And on the other side, we have a version that's chaotic, polemical, largely uncited, makes outlandish claims and blatantly violates WP:CS, WP:V, WP:RS, WP:FRINGE, WP:NPOV and a host of other policies. And that's defended by an editor with, shall we say, unconventional views, as can be seen from his talk page screeds. So I'm not quite sure what you're after. - Biruitorul ^Talk 16:47, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

I think we should try to resolve this by sections (or lines) and citations. Retail, not wholesale. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:52, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Further reading at Irataba

Thanks for this edit, but the further reading section was recently removed by request at the peer review. I'm not sure what's correct, but I've been told that FAs generally do not include further reading sections. What do you think? Rationalobserver (talk) 16:43, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I rather thought that this stuff had some intrinsic worth. Not sure what the peer reviewers have in mind. I hate to put good and complete on line sources—that might benefit readers— into the Ash heap of history. Do what you want. Best regards. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:52, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

It's not about "what I want"; I like further reading sections, but I'm pretty sure that when the peer reviewer who suggested we remove it comes to FAC they will again suggest we remove it. Rationalobserver (talk) 16:55, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Their thought processes on this subject are above my pay grade. I defer to your and their judgment. Cheers! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Alexander Kristoff

I just added a big chunk to his article. He seems to be a very serious contender for Flanders. My heart says Sagan, but reason says Kristoff or Devolder. You? Mattsnow81 (Talk) 23:48, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I have no idea. Don't handicap on these races. But thanks for asking. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:44, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Osama bin Laden (elephant)

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 16:02, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Post office murals

Thanks for all your work adding to the List of United States post office murals article. . Buster Seven Talk 11:49, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of King Gustav III of Sweden and his Brothers

Hello! Your submission of King Gustav III of Sweden and his Brothers at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 23:36, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Happy Easter

	Happy Easter
	Happy Easter....  ! Hafspajen (talk) 19:03, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you.  !!! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:36, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Haf's

See Userbox:Haf's decoration service. Changed into link; otherwise your archive will turn-up one day at the category-page. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:23, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Jane Eyre (1910 film)

Harrias ^talk 00:02, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

...for trying to help out with Skaters in the Bois de Boulogne‎ but I don't link to publishers or use citation templates in this article. If I revert these changes per WP:CITEVAR, is there anything you would like me to be aware of or modify in some way? I would really like to use cite templates, but I stopped using them several years ago when the developers wouldn't stop messing with them, often removing fields and leaving broken parameters without telling anyone. Viriditas (talk) 20:17, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

I won't argue with you about that. I won't be back, either. You lose some data, particularly links. Happy editing. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:34, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

That's what I'm trying to figure out. So, do you prefer to link to publishers? I generally don't; do you think I should? Viriditas (talk)

I do. I think linking to the rest of the encyclopedia is good. But there isn't a rule that I know of. And I don't argue about WP:CITEVAR cuz it gets me nowhere unless there is a clear consensus, and there rarely is. Editors get invested in the way they set up the citations, and WP:Own doesn't matter in the real world. So I defer to you. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:56, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Edward Snowden

Hi, I noticed that you edit the Edward Snowden article. I recently did a "page curation" on Operation Socialist and I'm wondering if I did the right thing, and if so, should it be added somewhere to another article? What do you think? Thanks, EChastain (talk) 14:07, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

I think Operation Socialist deserves at least a sentence with a link in the Snowden article. I will look more at Operation Socialist, which I know nothing about. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:54, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the Statue of Edward Snowden DYK Barnstar—my first on Wikipedia! Do you need special rights on this site to award Barnstars? I've never given one and mostly fly under the radar here. Is there a policy? Thanks again—Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 13:05, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Anybody can do it. See WP:Barnstar. All one has to do is click on the heart icon on the top of a user talk page. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:10, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

If you affix it to a stylidia, is that graffiti and unauthorized signage? Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 13:16, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I have no insight and no firm opinion. The word "SNOWDEN" was certainly a sign and arguably graffiti. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:23, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I meant the Barnstar! Affixed to a "Wikistylidia", whatever that is! Thanks again — Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 17:31, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Cute thought. I have no idea how to accomplish that. Need someone who knows how to make a GIF or prehaps take a picture of a real object? We should think on that. 19:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC) Ran across this. It sort of encapsulates a lot of the concepts implicit in the article.

Chinese seal carving work. The character is a combination of three characters, which is done by Chinese netizen. This is a satire of Chinese Internet censorship. See Grass Mud Horse.

7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:53, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for King Gustav III of Sweden and his Brothers

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:42, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Great work on the idea of connecting historical events to eclipse occurrences. Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:32, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Problems with your signature

Your signature line as it appeared in this edit was missing the closing SPAN tag, which meant that whomever posted next ('twas me) had their entire message appear in green-glow shadowed text. If this isn't just some one-time hiccup, you may want to fix it. --Nat Gertler (talk) 15:32, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Don't know why. Probably an ill-formed cut-and-paste from the Village Pump. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:42, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Yacht racing

Hello 7&6=thirteen. PLease check that all articles previously categorized under Category:Yachting races have enough categories either under Category:Sailing competitions or one of the subcategories. Can you tell me what's the need for this category if you are putting only sailboat (not motorboat) yachting events there ? Why do you thing sailboat competitions doesn't suit ?. Best regards--Banderas (talk) 11:50, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Banderas That you ave decided to eliminate the category from

. West Marine Pacific Cup ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:45, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-28)‎ . . Volvo Baltic Race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:43, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+5)‎ . . Victoria to Maui Yacht Race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:43, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+6)‎ . . Two-Handed Trans-Atlantic Race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:42, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-28)‎ . . Transpacific Yacht Race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:41, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+16)‎ . . Tour de Belle-Île ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:40, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-26)‎ . . Tjörn Runt ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:39, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+28)‎ . . Three Peaks yacht race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:38, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-42)‎ . . Team racing ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:38, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-29)‎ . . Tauranga Cup ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:37, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-29)‎ . . Tanner Cup ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:37, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+146)‎ . . N Category:Sailing competitions in Canada ‎ (←Created page with 'Canada Competitions Sailing') (current) 10:36, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+15)‎ . . Swiftsure Yacht Race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:34, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+28)‎ . . Superyacht Cup ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:33, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+1)‎ . . Speed sailing ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:33, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+28)‎ . . Southport 24 Hour Race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:32, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-32)‎ . . South Atlantic Race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:31, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+6)‎ . . Solidaire du Chocolat ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:31, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-15)‎ . . Round the Island Race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:29, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-27)‎ . . Round Texel ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:27, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-60)‎ . . Round Lidingö Race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:26, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+149)‎ . . N Category:Sailing competitions in Iceland ‎ (←Created page with 'Iceland Competitions Sailing') (current) 10:25, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-15)‎ . . Round Iceland ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:24, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-15)‎ . . Round Britain and Ireland double handed Yacht Race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:23, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-56)‎ . . 2005 Rolex Transatlantic Challenge ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:22, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+112)‎ . . N Category:Sailing competitions in Philippines ‎ (←Created page with 'Philippines Sailing') (current) 10:21, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+21)‎ . . President's Cup Regatta ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:20, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-42)‎ . . Parmelia Yacht Race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:19, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-50)‎ . . Oxford & Cambridge Sailing Society ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:18, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+22)‎ . . Oryx Quest ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:17, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-28)‎ . . Melbourne to Hobart Yacht Race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:16, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+7)‎ . . Lüderitz Speed Challenge ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:15, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-28)‎ . . Launceston to Hobart Yacht Race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:15, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+6)‎ . . King's Cup (yachting) ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:14, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-7)‎ . . Kaiser's Cup ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:14, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+4)‎ . . JJ Giltinan International Trophy ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:11, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+6)‎ . . Fremantle to Bali yacht race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:09, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-36)‎ . . Frederick B. Thurber ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:07, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-28)‎ . . Chicago to Mackinac Boat Race ‎ 10:06, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-29)‎ . . The Canal ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:05, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-28)‎ . . Brisbane to Gladstone yacht race ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:04, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+3)‎ . . Beer Can Races ‎ (current) [rollback: 1 edit] 10:02, 26 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (-15)‎ . . Australian Three Peaks Race

doesn't mean that the category was unneeded. If the category goes down, let it be on its own merits, not because you systematically emptied it. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:53, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi again Hello 7&6=thirteen. Please use my discussion page to answer me. I went one by one through those articles to categorize them in the best way. Only took them out of Yacht racing into other categories more related with sailing itself, as yachting can be done by sail or motor. After all the work, I found no article referring to motoryacht racing, therefore left the category empty. Now, they, or their tank category (like America's Cup) are categorized under a sailing category (mainly sailing competitions or subcategories). I'd love to discuss with you any case in which you don't agree with the new or left categories. It's not a matter of deleting for no reason, it's a matter of making articles easier to find. Best regards--Banderas (talk) 14:20, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Having an extra category does not make the article less easy to find. To the contrary, a specific category (many of these actually use the word "Yacht" in the title) is helpful, not harmful. If you feel strongly about this, do a for real proposed deletion. Doing it surreptitiously (in the back door without notice and without input from relevant participants) does no one a favor. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:27, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

No back door at all. I read every article to categorize on the right category. I was trying to avoid several same meaning categories per article. Just at the end of simplifying every case, it showed up there were no articles left in the yacht racing category. They all fitted under other sailing (sport) categories.--Banderas (talk) 15:35, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

I must have missed the announcement? If I did, then I apologize. If I didn't ... You may feel confident about your assessment. Of course, you and I disagree. We will see what others have to say. Deleting all the pages first and then deleting the category is Bass ackwards. Rather like dealing with the Red Queen. First then execution, then the trial. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:58, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi

If you want to, please take a look at the article Ruth Randall Edström that I have created. Cheers.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:20, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

We need a better citation than "Edström 1946, p. 244". I assume that is a book? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:40, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

I put in a book. was I right? Hope so. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:20, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

	Thanks
	Thanks. Hafspajen (talk) 13:23, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Beautiful. A sign of Spring. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:48, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, 7&6=thirteen. You have new messages at WP:RX.
Message added 16:41, 15 May 2015 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

- NQ (talk) 16:41, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. replied there. Cheers! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:53, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

I've emailed you the articles, in case you didn't get the ping. - NQ (talk) 17:15, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Orin W. Angwall

Harrias ^talk 00:02, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Demographics of the Supreme Court

I'm sorry... I'm not sure what your revert comment means. An anonymous editor took the long-standing version in which the justices were identified as "Roman Catholic", and removed the "Roman", leaving only "Catholic". I reverted, indicating that "Catholic" by itself is ambiguous, since there are other churches that call themselves catholic. You reverted the revert, but the comment makes no sense to me: "hat there are other rites does notk change the factd that these justices are practicing Roman Cathollics." Indeed; I did not delete the affiliation, I clarified it back to "Roman Catholic", you dropped the "Roman" again. Could you tell me what I'm missing? Thanks. Magidin (talk) 14:57, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I got confused. I thought you had done what you tell me the anonymous editor had done. Believe me, I know. I was baptized in the Byzantine rite and grew up in hte Roman Catholic brand of [[Catholicism. You are correct that there are lots of rites out there. I will undo my edit. Sorry. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:39, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Ah, that is why I was confused. Glad it's cleared up. Cheers! Magidin (talk) 18:03, 19 May 2015 (UTC)r

FYI. Catholic liturgical rites. I think this list is incomplete. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:48, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

A bit outside my knowledge, alas. Magidin (talk) 21:31, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Wild Turkey (bourbon)

You made a mistake when adding the ref to the article. I'm not sure if you broke the ref in two with a sentence or didn't complete a ref. Could you fix it? Bgwhite (talk) 23:31, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

wot r u playing at

did you even check wot i did? 118.93.95.49 (talk) 00:46, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Looks like it is a case of WP:OWN. 118.93.95.49 (talk) 01:53, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

No. Looks like a case of WP:3RR. And your edit summaries are potentially violative of WP:Civil. This is a collegial enterprise, and you should not WP:Bully. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 01:57, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

udo a lot on editing on Soyabean Car and you are pushing for your version. that is WP:OWN. And I know I violated 3rr but that is because my version is better. 118.93.95.49 (talk) 01:59, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

You can push that position all you want. I did not revert more than 3 times. You reverted 5 times. And you were warned. I also disagree with your statement that "because my version is better". It isn't. Other editors disagree with you. And you just "edit war" on, as you stated on your talk page. NOW STAY OFF MY TALK PAGE. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:03, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

isn't there a policy that says that when an editor start SHOUTING at another one he has lost the argument? 118.93.95.49 (talk) 02:12, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Isn't there a policy that people who can't spell the word "what" shouldn't be editing Wikipedia? Skyerise (talk) 02:18, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

No. I don't want you on my talk page unless you are posting an official (and required) notice. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:13, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Ok. 118.93.95.49 (talk) 02:15, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

And I will give you the same courtesy and distance. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:16, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Great improvements to the Shaker articles. Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:14, 17 June 2015 (UTC) Talk about a shaker ...it is worth while suffering the commercial, for Galaxy in my version, to get to this. I still have my 78" in peerfect condition. This is much longer. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:31, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Shaker broom vise DYK

On Saturday (6_20_2015) I am going to nominate the article for DYK. I am going to include you and Martin of Sheffield as co-editors as you BOTH made major contributions to the article. I have in my sandbox possible hook lines. Which do you prefer OR do you have another suggestion?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:49, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Rolling the dice

If you're ever interested in voting, I wrote the 2015 Tour de Suisse, nomination is on June 21st :) Mattsnow81 (Talk) 19:49, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Put in my 2 cents worth. We should probably do the Hour record again. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:19, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

I saw it, thanks for your support! After the effort the Tour De Suisse demanded, I'll go easy on Wikipedia for a little while. Have some fun if you want to upgrade Wiggins' article with the facts of the record. I reckon his record will be tough to beat. Maybe tony Martin can do it? What do you think? Mattsnow81 (Talk) 17:28, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

BTW, congratulations on all those DYK posts, you certainly are doing a great job! Mattsnow81 (Talk) 22:06, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Shaker Seed Company

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:15, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Operation Sahayogi Haat

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:16, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Shaker tilting chair

Materialscientist (talk) 01:11, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Shaker broom vise

Do try and pass this thank you on. Thanks. Victuallers (talk) 00:10, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

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Description of articles traffic rankings

Hi, I didn't know where to post this...
I would just like to draw Wikipedians attention to the way the page view statistics are presented. In each and every Wikipedia page one would click 'View history', then 'Page view statistics' and he will get the statistics page. Now, the headline reads - '(Wikipedia page) has been viewed xxxxxx times in the last 30 days. (and, for 10,000 Wikipedia pages, also - ) This article ranked xxx in traffic on en.wikipedia.org.'. One may get the wrong impression that the ranking is an all time one. As I understand it, the ranking is merely the page's rating for the month of March 2014 (see the figures here). This can be a bit misleading.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help -- Limitless undying love (talk) 01:07, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Try WP: Village Pump 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:19, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Puppy

	Puppy
	Puppy for you! Hafspajen (talk) 14:03, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. How did you know? I had a Berner at one time. Great dog! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:21, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

You are back! I trust you've enjoyed a good holiday. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:05, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Only sort of. Dabbling in wikipedia. The beach, sea kayaking, bicycling and sailing north of Sturgeon Point Light is spectacular. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:08, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Sounds great. Hope you approve of this meddling [19]. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:11, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

What do you mean how do I know? You told me. I always know who had what kind of dog. Gareth here has a Lurcher, for example. Hafspajen (talk) 21:28, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

CRS It's beena while. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:34, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Well, yeah. Hafspajen (talk) 14:30, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Could that be standing for Chinese restaurant syndrome, purportedly caused by the flavour enhancer, glutamate? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:39, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Can't remember S***? a/k/a halftymers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:05, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Wistarburgh Glass Works

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:11, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK-Thank you

Thank you! RFD (talk) 14:49, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Your welcome. Thanks for starting the article, Howard Wiest. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:54, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

RFD (talk) If you are starting new Michigan Supreme Court justice articles, let me know. The Wiest article suggests most of the usual sources and the infobox. We can take these articles, get a WP:DYK, and they will be better than the run of the mill. Juwt a THOUGHT.

DYK Louis H. Fead

Many thanks for the DYK for the article Louis H. Fead. My apologies for not responding sooner for I was hospitalized for 2 days for a bacterial infection in my blood. I am feeling much better. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 12:24, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks

Many thanks as always!RFD (talk) 15:06, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Howard Wiest

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:20, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Passenger pigeon for FAC

Hi, some time ago we talked a bit about bringing passenger pigeon to FAC. I'll soon read the new Errol Fuller book about the species, and then I'll start working on the article, feel free to join if you're interested. Meanwhile, I discovered the book can be downloaded freely as a PDF[20] from Archive.org, doesn't seem entirely legal, but now you know, before it is taken down... FunkMonk (talk) 13:58, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

FunkMonk Thanks. Let me know if you need help! 14:38, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Cool, will probably take a little while before I begin working on it, but feel free to do anything in the meantime. Could be nice to have it ready for September 1 next year, the date of its extinction (we missed the centennial, though)... This September is too early, of course. FunkMonk (talk) 20:11, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Michigan Heritage Museum

Thanks for letting me know that you are correcting errors to try and get my article approved. Over the years, I have contributed over 500 photos of both National Historic Place and Michigan Historic places to Wikipedia. I always wanted to try my hand at creating an article and thought this brand new living history museum was one. To get shot down within an hour with no real explanation why was a bit crushing. However, I did learn a lot about how a page is put together. If it doesn't go thru, I will still look for something that is worthy of Wikipedia and give it another go.

Wingerham52 (talk) 20:26, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Wingerham52, I am highly optimistic. You laid down a great base, and I put on some roots and branches. It is now a well sourced and WP:notable article. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:33, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

I received this e-mail from you:

Wingerham52 added many pictures (that apparently he took) to Commons. That's good = now he has to add a category for each picture. I made Category:Michigan Heritage Park that he can put them into. I started with his picture of Fur Trader Cabin.jpg and then he should copy what I did with all the other recent Commons pictures he uploaded, that are now uncategorized. Can you help him this = since he has to learn this step. Thanks!

Another editor asked me to sent this to you.

I am not sure what this is referring to and/or how to go about it. I don't have your revised submission, just my original(which was rejected. Most of my photography is for the wikipedia articles denoting the historic sites in Michigan. Is he also referring to these submissions, or just to the ones I took at the Muskegon Heritage Park? If he is also saying that the most recent additions have to be categorized, this would be a first after years of photographing historic places.

Wingerham52 (talk) 16:11, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

I've not uploaded pictures, so I don't know the drill. I think that if you add the Commons category, then it could be searchable that way. Not a requirement (that I know of) but useful to our readers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:14, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Michigan Heritage Museum contains the many revisions, and a review is pending. I would do it myself, but I don't want someone to confabulate a WP:COI. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:17, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Louis H. Fead

Gatoclass (talk) 08:42, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Great improvements to Chester H. Pond. Thanks! Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:37, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Michigan Heritage Park

I have checked out the copyvio page and I have done some re-editing of sections. A large percentage of the red violations are proper nouns and names. If you would neglect those there would be little or no plagiarism. I also didn't realize that the article was still alive. I was going to abandon it after it was rejected. I thought it was notable because this is a living museum. Kinda like Williamsburg.

Wingerham52 (talk) 14:23, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

IMHO, given the amount of coverage (which I've put in as sources in the article) by WP:RSs getting it revived is a 'slam dunk.' We just have to be patient. And I am confident we will get a WP:DYK when it is revived. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:47, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK-Thank you

Many thanks for the DYK-Louis H. Fead-thank you-RFD (talk) 16:29, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

You are welcome. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:54, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

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North American Piedmontese cattle

Recent GA Talk:North_American_Piedmontese_cattle 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:48, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Raid on Manila (1798)

Recent GA Talk:Raid on Manila (1798) 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:53, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

What do you think

Thanks for all the help to a newbie. I was going to give up on the article. Now for my next idea, I would like to bounce it off you, since you are into lighthouses. The wiki page at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lighthouses_in_Michigan is not user friendly because it is hard to discern where they are geographically. I was thinking of redoing this list to mirror the page like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Register_of_Historic_Places_listings_in_Michigan. This would allow one to search for the lighthouses in specific counties. I don't want it to be a waste of time.

Wingerham52 (talk) 15:57, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Before you do that, take a look at the Michigan Lighthouse template that appears at the bottom of every Michigan lighthouse article. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:55, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Testing "pings"

I seem to have trouble using the ping template with your name. Do others?

Can you ping me with "yo" and "ping" for a test. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:12, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes, Doug Coldwell, I discovered this to be so with this user, back in the early days or Echo. "Ping" does not like the make-up of this username.
I always resort to [[User:7&6=thirteen|]] .
I hope this helps. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:58, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

• 7&6=thirteen Yes, this does help --> as I could never ping this user before. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:22, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

• When a username contains an equal sign, just add 1= at the beginning of the username for the ping to work. For eg. {{Ping/yo/re|1=7&6=thirteen}} - 185.108.128.10 (talk) 11:16, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for hint. I do believe I will try that now. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

• @7&6=thirteen: Can you ping me to make sure my User name works.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
• @7&6=thirteen: Ping me using "yo" . --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Michigan Heritage Park

• Can you see if you can correct the dead link ref #27. I'm going to the beach for a few hours.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:42, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
• @7&6=thirteen: - I do believe that Michigan Heritage Park came out pretty good, if I don't mind saying so myself.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:40, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Re: Template:Did you know nominations/Sepia prashadi

I didn't want to interrupt your review, as there was an edit conflict, so I'll post this here instead. It is not exactly clear what "underexploited resource" means in this context, but if it is intended to encourage the hunting of the species, it's a bad idea and presents a neutrality issue. The idea that resources should be exploited until they are extinguished, let alone animals for that matter, is not just controversial, it's a notion that's been responsible for all the horrors associated with imperialism, colonialism, and environmental destruction. The economics and science of sustainability no longer deals with the older notion of "exploiting" animals as a resource until they go extinct, and Wikipedia should not be used to push this archaic, outdated view. I'll ping User:SlimVirgin to see if she has anything to add on this. Viriditas (talk) 02:56, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

While it is "widely distributed" there are apparently no reliable surveys of its distribution and population. Vulnerability to environmental issues is mentioned at the Red List, but unmentioned in the article. I would note also that the study that supports this is dated 2005 and seems out of date. Viriditas (talk) I suggest you post your comment at the nomination talk page. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:27, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Viriditas, that is exactly why I left "underexploited" out. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:07, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

By the way, I looked and looked for some sort of fact to replace the hook but found nothing. Anyone? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:10, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

FYI, "underexploited" is in the nomination. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:30, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Of course. :) It's the heading of this thread. Maybe the three big suckers fact would be better. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

After I slightly expanded the article, I have proposed an ALT at the DYK nomination. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:48, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

It's now a cheery and informative article of which you can both be proud. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:43, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

I'll respond at User talk:Anna Frodesiak#Sepia prashadi has been nominated for Did You Know. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:50, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Owen Swift

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:21, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

TAFI

If you want to you can please review my noms at TAFI. I need some more input. Thanks. Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Nominations.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:03, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For assisting an editor new to DYKs in every way possible. Fritzmann2002 12:24, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I want you to succeed. Good content is worthwhile and good editors and DYK contributors need to be fostered, not hindered. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:27, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	Great improvements on the Dart articles. Thanks! Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:40, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

UuU

Oldest surviving edit on Wikpedia. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:03, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

I wonder if "HuH" was the second oldest? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:11, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

As it happens, I personally wrote that part of that article, and it isn't. But it should have been. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:17, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

OMG! So you did! ... and the third oldest edit? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:21, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

I have admired Meh for a long time. I think that those kind of articles are what separate us (in a positive sense) from other encyclopedias. For example, I am proud of Barber pole and The moon is made of green cheese, which I contributed to a lot. The latter gets a surprising amount of views all the time. I think these are surprisingly utilitarian for our readers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:30, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

You'll be telling me next that Mars is a giant ice-lolly. Looking forward to a new article on wiki-seebs. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:39, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

As you illustrated, all articles are not created equal. But as we approach the milestone of 5 million articles, all I can say is "Wow" 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:18, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

We'll all be running up that hill. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:46, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

I Like {:>{)> 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:23, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Here is a support award

	For your support above and beyond the call of duty
	Thanks for all your help. Here is a gift for you. Don't drink it all tonight. Its in the mail = email that is. Should arrive soon. Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:02, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Well thanks. It's really appreciated. I like it. Tasty. I'm now 'virtually drunk' with power. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:10, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

West Michigan

But there's no baby, just bath water. <shrug> Deli nk (talk) 15:18, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

This would be easily cured. You could request citations.

And you say this with a straight face as you eliminated Gerald R. Ford. His presence is common knowledge. You are in a different uiniverse, mmy friend. <shrug>

It is not easily cured with a request for citations. There has been a request for citations on the list since 2011. Deli nk (talk) 15:23, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Well, you and I could work on putting citations together.

You went beyond drive-by flagging, and implemented drive by destruction. Not helpful in building an encyclopedia. That list was not arbitrarily put together, and all of these people are notable (and we just need a citation to put them in West Michigan). I WP:AGF by the editors. It is far better to build on the foundation that is there than it is to wipe it all out. That's my opinion. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:39, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Michigan Heritage Park

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 07:09, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Thanks for going the extra mile. Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:45, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

thx

Richard or Robert? Its Richard! thx Victuallers (talk) 21:42, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Glad to help. This is the kind of SNAFU that can slow or bury a WP:DYK. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:08, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK Vine staff

		The Reviewer Barnstar
		Thank you for your kind words, sirrah, but more importantly for the sensible ones.

DYK's been a little infested by rules bloat lately. Since—once they find it—it's where the new page creators take their new babies, please do hang around and help them walk it back a little so we can be more welcoming and reasonable about what new articles are usually going to look like. — LlywelynII 03:23, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I've got close to (or over, I don't count) 100 DYKs, just haven't put them on my WP:User page. I've been remiss; and I wish somebody would give me one of those DYK milestone medals. But its my own fault. In any event, I will continue to review; WP:DYK should not be more proactive and more welcoming than being ridden out of town on a rail. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 10:34, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

email

Can you send me an e-mail. The latest seem to bounce back, so perhaps I have a wrong address.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:36, 12 October 2015 (UTC)