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May 2019

Hello, I'm Toddst1. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, November 21, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 17:39, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Sources needed for Days of the Year pages

You appear to not be aware, but Days of the Year pages are no longer exempt from WP:V and direct sources are required for additions. For details see the WikiProject Days of the Year style guide. You've been recently noticed about this recently so the material you added to July 6 has been undone. If you restore it, please provide a direct reliable source. Thanks. Please stop adding unreferenced matierial to Wikipedia to avoid being blocked from editing. Toddst1 (talk) 16:26, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Re:Ancestry section on Archie Mountbatten-Windsor

Hi there! I’m sorry if I seemed a bit short regarding reverting that edit. I myself attempted to create an ancestry section complete with info and a tree multiple times previously, but was repeatedly told it was unnecessary. I was just following the consensus. I personally agree with you that there should be an ancestry section. I suppose the article’s talk place would be a good place to find what the current consensus is. Thanks :) Mesmeilleurs (talk) 17:26, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. I will surely say something on the talk page. I understand and agree with you, and thank you for putting a helpful answer to my question! Willbb234 (talk) 17:30, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Help please

On the page Arnold Thackray, I have been in a content dispute, however, the other editor (Lipien) is not responding on their talk page. I would like to get the dispute solved quickly as the edits on the page are very significant. I also believe they have another account (I don't think a Sockpuppet) they used to do an edit. There might be a third account involved but that might need reviewing. The edits made make the page inconsistent with all other biographies of living people and I believe it may be violating WP:NPOV.

I would like to take this to the content dispute page, however the article has not been discussed, so I cannot proceed.

You should discuss the issue at the article's talkpage where the user should hopefully join. If you have evidence of abusing multiple accounts please see WP:SPI, otherwise assume good faith of the user. – Ammarpad (talk) 14:58, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Ammarpad, thank you, but this matter has already been resolved. Best wishes, Willbb234 (talk) 17:41, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!

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New Section

Hi, and thank you for your assistance. My wish to change my username has nothing to do with shame. It's because a) I do not want to become enmeshed in interpersonal disputes and (b) because I need to speak freely and have no wish to cause unnecessary offence. So if that's all right I will go ahead and try to change my username. Nigel S. Lewis (talk) 07:16, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Nigel S. Lewis Ok, that’s fine, sorry for the mis-understanding. Remember to read the guidlines on usernames here. Reagrds, Willbb234 (talk) 07:19, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

(Email) Suggestion

I would appreciate your e-mail address so I can send you information privately. Then we can see where to go from there Nigel S. Lewis (talk) 08:11, 9 June 2019 (UTC).

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To restore information

Sir, the edit which you did in Dr. Shamsheer Vayalil early life paragraph is just horrible. You removed many important informations from that "Early life" paragraph. Please! restore that. Thanks. (223.230.133.231 (talk) 05:50, 18 June 2019 (UTC))

@223.230.133.231: That wasn’t me, you can check here. I added his residence, like you asked on the help desk. Willbb234 (talk) 06:19, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

To restore the information

Sir, I apologize for my mistake. I request you, that please! restore the removed information in the Early life paragraph of Dr. Shamsheer Vayalil. One more thing, also link the meaning of "Radiologist" in occupation column present in infobox. Thanks. (223.230.133.231 (talk) 07:00, 18 June 2019 (UTC))

I recommend that you read this introduction to editing, so that you don’t have to ask others to edit on your behalf. That way, you can change information when and where you want. I will look into the page again to see what I can do. Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 07:16, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

• Sir, I know how to edit but my edits are not saved on Wikipedia page, that's why I ask other editors to edit. I have edited various Wikipedia pages but my edits are not saved in any one of them. That's why I left editing Wikipedia and generally ask others to do it.

Thanks. (223.230.133.231 (talk)) —Preceding undated comment added 07:27, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Why do they not save? Maybe try to create an account, it might work then. Just a suggestion, Willbb234 (talk) 07:31, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

• Sir, I will surely try to make my account. I think this is the reason why my edits are not saved. Till then you make the desire edits that I stated you above.

Thanks. (223.230.133.231 (talk) 07:42, 18 June 2019 (UTC))

New comment

I am trying to contact Willb234 to discuss why he undid the additions to Arnold Thackray's bio made on 14 June, in which I listed provided a complete list of organizations that Arnold Thackray played a key role in establishing, as referenced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.89.104 (talk) 20:53, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I presume this is Lipien.

• Firstly, it is important you do not edit using an IP for accusations of sock puppetry may arise.
• To address your comment, I have left a response on the talk page of your registered account, explaining the reasons for the reversion.

If you have any issues, please contact me so that I can hopefully provide a reason for my actions or change my actions in the future.

Best wishes, Willbb234 (talk) 21:19, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

I am trying to establish why the edits I made on 14 June to Arnold Thackray's bio warranted deletion. I added information that is referenced to the opening paragraph. One may find similar paragraphs at other bios on Wikipedia. Lipen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.89.104 (talk) 22:49, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Arnold Thackray

First of all, I have made any and all edits or contributions to Wikipedia exclusively as Lipien. So I don't know on what basis you can accuse me of 'sock puppetry,' which I had to look up to find out what it is. Secondly, the last edits made to ARnold Thackray only augmented the information that already existed in the introductory paragraph, which already noted two organizations that he had founded. I added to that list to make it complete. Your explanation for the deletion was hardly justified, as the sentences I wrote were quite understandable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lipien (talk • contribs) 23:14, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

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Arnold Thackray

I know that Arnold Thackray was born in Manchester, England, but because that information hasn't been published elsewhere, it should be kept from readers of Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lipien (talk • contribs) 23:44, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

If the information has not been published, it cannot be used in a Wikipedia article. Read WP:OR - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it just reguritates already published information. Willbb234 (talk) 06:51, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Flags on List of Nobel laureates

You might want to join the discussion on that article's talkpage before adding any other {{flagicon}}s...I and at least one other editor have raised MOS concerns about them. DMacks (talk) 04:01, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

@DMacks: Thank you, I have had a look. I don’t really agree it is ‘xenophobic and extremely offensive’ but I won’t be adding anymore flagicons so as not to anger anyone. Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 06:55, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Arnold Thackray

I wait for your reply to my question. I had added that ARnold Thackray was born in Manchester because I know that he was born there. It is somewhat common knowledge among historians of science of Thackray's generation, since people know each other. Why should Thackray's birthplace remain a secret for Wikipedia readers. What is your motivation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lipien (talk • contribs) 23:36, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia’s motivation is not to tell false information. How can you prove, without showing me a WP:RS that he is born in Machester. Please read WP:OR. Willbb234 (talk) 06:58, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Posted here at the request of Toddst1

Toddst1, it is disruptive to remove uncited text without challenging it first. You should really add a {{cn|date=June 2019}} tag and wait. It is polite to let the editor know that you have added it. Also, please do not bite the newcomers. Moonraker (talk) 13:21, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Nope - that's the policy of the WP:DOTY project - the pages were such a mess that new entries without citations will be removed on sight. For details: content guideline, the style guide or the edit notice on any of those pages.

As far as biting the newcomers, I believe I'm leaving polite notices when I address their issues like this. If you think that's bitey, then I don't have much more to say.

If you want to continue this discussion, let's do it on my talk page please so we don't further annoy Will. Thanks. Toddst1 (talk) 14:46, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Your Reference Desk Question

Hi, I think that plant is called Filago vulgaris, it has the common name of cudweed. I have a certainty of about 80%. Hope that helps. Best to you. Richard Avery (talk) 18:14, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@Richard Avery:Thank you very much for the help! My only concern is that the article states that they can grow up to 30cm in height, however I’m sure the ones I have are a little taller than that, although I’ll have to check. Thanks once again, Willbb234 (talk) 18:33, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Just found this website which states that they can grow up to 20 inches. That’s more like it! Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 18:37, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

• Glad to help. Richard Avery (talk) 21:40, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

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Thank you

Thanks for your comment on my talk page. I have so much to learn here. Everytime I learn one new thing, see I have to learn about 25 more new things! MaskedSinger (talk) 10:19, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

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Cricket world cup

Hello. You left a message on my talk page regarding NPOV. I understand that and I think that you may be mistaken because I was not the one who added that the final was thrilling. I merely added the content above it and corrected the grammar a bit. Just because I was the recent editor of the that paragraph does not mean that I wrote the non-neutral part. I think if you would like to check the history and compare revisions, you may find out what I added and who added the non-neutral part because maybe you would want to inform the real user who added that. Thank you. Kashish Arora (talk) 11:39, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

@Kashish Arora: my apologies, I will look into it and find the editor responsible. Best wishes, Willbb234 (talk) 11:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

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Jack Bin (Demule Wilondja)

There are many source i got on page Jack Bin (Demule Wilondja) Can you tell me another reason why should it be remove

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@RHaworth: Apologies. Willbb234 (talk) 20:13, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

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Arnold Thackray

Let's talk to administrator as to why stating that Arnold Thackray was born in Manchester, England is unacceptable. I have read enough of Wikipedia articles to know that not all statements by contributors are supported by secondary sources. Lipien Lipien (talk) 17:39, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

getting an admin - look above. Willbb234 (talk) 11:52, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Administrators do not settle content disputes; if that's all this is, there is no specific need for an administrator. You need to work any content dispute out between yourselves or using dispute resolution processes. 331dot (talk) 12:40, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@331dot: I was looking for admin help regarding the last statement. Willbb234 (talk) 14:03, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm not clear on what exactly you are looking for. 331dot (talk) 14:07, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

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Nomination of Zeeyarah for deletion

Dear Willbb234, Hope you are doing good. I will Appreciate if you could educate me further on the reasons of deletion and how the article can be improved to avoid deletion. i tried my best to provide accurate information and verifiable references that has link with an IATA where Zeeyara Certification is posted on IATA NDC registry. I therefor kindly request you to publish the article. Thanking you very much.

@Zee2019: Hello! Articles about companies have very strict guidelines about notability. Most companies aren’t significant enough to have an article written on them, however much effort the creator has put into an article. Also, I am guessing you are the founder of this company, and, obviously, you don’t want to include any bad information about the company. Therefore, I was aware that the article may not reflect what the company is truly about because it is written by someone without a neutral point of view. If you think that the company deserves an article you can request to have it created with a WP:NPOV at WP:RA but it will most likely take a while to be created. I hope that helps, Willbb234 (talk) 12:22, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

@Willbb234:

Thank you once again for your kind review, I have no words to express my thankfulness to you for sparing sufficient time. Indeed huge amount of efforts has been put in to update the information in neutral. The importance of this article rest in way to the future of IATA Industry is shaping the distribution system of Airline Inventory thru NDC Program. You may want to verify the details on IATA website about NDC program. Finally I am not the founder of zeeyarah but paid Employee which I already disclosed. The Founder name is mentioned in the article.

@Willbb234:

Hello! Hope you are doing fine. Can you please help me how can i remove deletion notification from Zeeyarah page.

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Good article reviewing thoughts

Hi. I think the myth is your first GAN. I did my first years ago, it was promptly undone, I gave up and have never done other! I could however offer my own quick "How to" review guide that may make your next easier. Szzuk (talk) 05:41, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi there Szzuk! This is my fourth review, but yes, it is taking a long time. I decided to make the list of potential improvements because I saw them and wanted to help out. In regards to the review, I am reading the article whilst also thinking of the criteria. If you want to see the other articles I’ve reviewed, they are Ghana Freedom, Craig Bellamy and Theatre Royal Drury Lane 8th September 1974. Of course if you want to tell me your How To guide, then go ahead I always appreciate advice from others. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 06:43, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

If you have any technical questions about process let me know. Your comments on the myth were perceptive and helpful thank you. I was doing a spot of parkrun tourism this morning at Northwich, it was very slippy, more like cross country! Szzuk (talk) 13:05, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

@Szzuk: Good stuff! Thanks for the response, much appreciated. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 14:06, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

About the Wikipedia:WikiProject Requested articles

Hello! I have joined it, when you join it also mention me on it's talk page to discuss what we shall do next. Eni vak (speak) 14:22, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

My first proposition is to invite still active members to add there name to a list on the project talk page, which I will create shortly. That way, we know how many editors from the project are still active. Go through the list and drop them a message saying something about the attempt to revive the WikiProject and how we need thee help. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 14:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Ok, i have invited some, i will try to do that now. I have also a proposal, which i will say after doing what you said. Eni vak (speak) 16:10, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

{{ping| Willbb234}] Hey. is that good: Dear user,

I, with Willbb234, are a attempting to revive the Wikiproject Requested Articles, of which you are a member. If you wish to be a part of our effort, feel free to add your signature in it's talk page. ? Eni vak (speak) 16:13, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

I, along with Willbb234, are a attempting to revive the Wikipedia:WikiProject Requested articles, of which you are a member. If you wish to be a part of our effort, feel free to add your signature in it's talk page.

@Enivak:

Oops, i didn't saw your ping and i have posted my version to all the pages. I will correct it now or later.

Nevertheless, this is my proposal: To bring someone experienced with coding (eg.Cobi) to design for us the Newsletter, the backlog drive and the red link Blitzes the page says, so the project would be more attractive. Eni vak (speak) 16:45, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

@Enivak: I don’t think we would need that for a while. We need to get the project ooff the ground first, a newsletter is an awful lot of work to do. Out of the hundreds of WikiProjects, only a few have still active newsletters. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 16:52, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Ok. And something irrelevant, how long we will wait until older members respond? Eni vak (speak) 16:53, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Enivak I couldn’t say, some might not even respond as they might not still support the project. Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 17:41, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

The truth is that i meant "how much time we will give them to respond" Eni vak (speak) 17:43, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

@Enivak: My apologies. I would say a couple of weeks or so, but it doesn’t really matter. Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 18:05, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Ok, understood. No need for apologies, be happy ;-) Eni vak (speak) 21:13, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

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@RexxS: Ohhhh, thank you a lot. I was going to do it manually but realised I could just paste the members list in. Best wishes, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 21:13, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

you could have discussed first

and it would make it much easier... Afd - if you were kind enough to revert yourself, we can prod it and it is gone - it has been subsumed into the parent article, and to prolong this is wasting time and energy JarrahTree 07:50, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: I do think it needed discussion. You can’t blank a page, even if you are the creator - you don’t own a page. If people think that the page should be kept, then it should. If people think the page should deleted, then it should be deleted. It isn’t your decision. I hope that gives you a reasonable answer for my actions, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 07:56, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

No - missing the point of what the process is, are you sure you understand? The content of the article is now in the parent article, there is no need to be anything but a redirect. Please do not utilise Afd if you dont understand alternative work arounds, to re-instate the article and to talk about WP:OWN is missing the point completely, the content is now in effect in the WAY 79 article, and the redirect is a valid item. Please try to think around the issue, I do think it should be deleted, and understand the point is there are no WP:RS to carry the article as a separate item. JarrahTree 08:00, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

OK, in WP:AGF I shall go back over the issues, to see if we can agree somewhere:

2 articles were created at the same time as WAY 79 some years ago, regarding publications related to the event.

This morning ( +8 time) you put one of them up for WP:AFD.

IN the process of claiming the WP:BK standards, you were correct, there are inadequate easy to find WP:RS to substantiate separate articles.

I am suggesting that in the larger process of AFD - it was over-reach, you could have talked with the creator of the article first (that is always an option) - I would have agreed with you, and prepared the material so that the two articles that lack adequate WP:RS to substantiate the existence of the articles. You could have also applied a WP:PROD - which is also less onerous..

I am claiming in my experience of AFD of over 10 years now, is that AFD's can be withdrawn in the face of obvious over-reach

I am asking you to withdraw your afd, so we can request a prod, a blank, and it becomes a redirect.

It all requires negotiation in WP:AGF and requires talking to understand thot simply sticking a 'benchmark' of what 'people' might think is missing the point that the creator is not WP:OWN - but is letting you know your concern in the first part has been addressed, and there is no need to keep an article that has no possibility of an easy WP:RS to solve its issues.

I hope that clarifies the situation. JarrahTree 08:28, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: You are discounting the fact that others may feel this article should be kept and not deleted. It doesn’t fall under any of the speedy deletion criteria so there is no need to PROD. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 08:32, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Are you reading what I am writing - it has nothing to do with peoples feelings, it is to do with content - the content can not be substantiated by WP:RS a basic principle of how material is added to the encyclopedia for WP:V - there is nothing in the article that isnt already at WAY 79 and as a consequence there is an issue of duplicate=d material.

I am very sorry, in WP:AGF but I think you should stay well clear of WP:AFD if you are concerned about peoples feelings, the basic principle is reliable sources for verification. I am sure there are other areas you can help improve and make a better encyclopedia. Best of luck. JarrahTree 08:38, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: The whole of AFD is built on people’s feelings on an article. AFD has everything to do with what people feel about the article and whether they think, according to the policies of Wikipedia, it should be deleted or not. Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 08:45, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

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	Hello, thank you for the thorough copyedit of Carlos Landín Martínez. It was a pleasure working with you. See you around in the GA drive next month! MX (✉ • ✎) 19:13, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

@MX: thank you very much! (There was a whole page of copyeditor barnstars, but that one works well). Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 19:16, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

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Thank you!

@Willbb234: Thanks for that cup of tea! Truly appreciate it. I would love to add the logo to the page but not sure how to do so. Are you able to assist? MaskedSinger (talk) 15:18, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

@MaskedSinger: do you have access to a logo, not via the internet? Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 15:28, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

@Willbb234: no. was going to take it from the internet/their website. What else do people do when adding logos? MaskedSinger (talk) 15:42, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

@MaskedSinger: you cannot simply take it from the website or the internet. The best way to go is to directly contact them and ask them to upload the logo. Make sure to direct them to the Wikimedia Commons Upload Wizard at this link. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 16:15, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

I need protection for my father’s wiki page

Hi Will, I really need some guidance here. I’m at my wits end. An anonymous user keeps adding his name to the list of my late father’s children. At first I was intrigued. I wanted DNA verification through ancestry or 23/me. Two years later and this person has yet to provide DNA proof and now admits he is not a match. Yet he (or someone) keeps adding his name and I keep taking it off. I need help. Can I protect my father’s Wikipedia page until proper verification of this person’s identity is actually received? Ccroskery (talk) 04:21, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Ps. They got me. And I admit I lost my temper. After editing off his name for about the 10th time, i used harsh language in my “reason for editing” comments box. Now I can’t take the word out. Sorry. I just want my dad’s life and memory not to be played with. If this guy can prove he’s my dad’s offspring then he has a right to be listed. But otherwise NOT! Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccroskery (talk • contribs) 04:57, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

@Ccroskery: I will take a look and get back to you. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 06:39, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

@Ccroskery: Firstly, I feel your frustration - someone who was so close to you having their page played with. That being said, it isn’t your job to change anything back - you have a strong conflict of interest. Instead you should have done exactly what you did now and told someone so that the matter could be sorted quicker. The user hasn’t been back for a week so no protection is required, but if the matter comes up again, please do contact me. The infobox parameter for children states

Typically the number of children (e.g., 3); only list names of independently notable or particularly relevant children. For multiple entries, use an inline list. For privacy reasons, consider omitting the names of living children, unless notable.

I believe the list of children should be changed unless you, or any of your siblings, hold notability and you have sources to say that. Sorry for jumping back to the other point, but did you discuss the matter with the other user, and if so, where? You say something about DNA verification, but this is original research - something that is prohibited on Wikipedia. I hope that helps, if you have anymore questions, please don’t hesitate to ask. Best wishes, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 07:02, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

I forgot to explain what the parameter is saying: basically, it says you should put the number of children (6, in this case) unless one or more of the children is notable enough to have their name there. Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 07:07, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

@Willbb234: Hi Will, I am not sure I am replying correctly so forgive me if I’m not. Im trying to learn this process.

I appreciate your time in looking over this dispute. It may take a few days but the name Mark Croskery will reappear. For two years an anonymous user keeps changing my father’s article. Must we wait until it happens again in order to protect the article?

The only children of Danny Dark who can be found in published articles, books, or gallery exhibitions in their own right (notable) are Sydney Croskery (artist) and myself, Caroline Croskery (translator). Regardless, I would happy if you took all offspring off of his page.

How are the spouses verified? The man who claims to be my father’s son but admits the dna doesn’t match, has been editing my father’s article to include his mother’s supposed marriage to my father. My father’s will explicitly denies any such marriage and my in-depth research has not uncovered this marriage either. So I believe that the claim of Daniel Melville Croskery’s marriage to Judith Ann Freeman is erroneous and has yet to be verified, as well as Mark Croskery’s claim to be Danny Dark’s son.

Lastly, if you would, please remove all offspring and protect his article if you could. Thank you! Ccroskery (talk) 17:53, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

@Ccroskery: I cannot protect the page, only an admin can. However, in this situation, as it is only a single editor causing problems, it would be better to block the editor instead. However, this can only be done after you have warned the editor. This can be done easily using Twinkle. If the user has no source saying that Mark Croskery was the son of Danny Dark, then the content should be removed. If the user continues to do this after a warning is given, the user will be blocked. I hope that helps, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 18:55, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Dynamic Network Connectivity

Thank you for pointing out how technical this page is. Wikipedia is indeed a place where people with PhDs go to learn about their own field, and so that is why we included so much information. We tried to have the first paragraph be more approachable/general, and then followed with details for the interested reader. Please note that Dynamic Network Connectivity is completely different from Dynamic Functional Connectivity. Wikipedia is so good about disambiguating these situations, so I was hoping it would be ok Thanks!

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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

Hello Willbb234,

Backlog

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Coordinator

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.

This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

Deletion tags

Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.

Paid editing

Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion

• Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
• Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.

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• A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.

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Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.

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Thanks

Willbb234, thank you for the time you took in considering my candidacy for adminship. Your feedback around the GA drive is indeed useful and I believe I've answered your questions at this point but if I haven't please let me know so I can do so. I hope you consider further participation as I know you got caught in a rough spot there. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:48, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

@Barkeep49: thank you! Well done on gaining adminship, I’m sure it will greatly help the community. Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 06:16, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Talk:The Hague Institute for Global Justice

Hey. I know we've already spoken on the edit request on this talk page but if you could take the time to review the request today, that would be a massive help. The entirety of the proposed changes are here in this draft, so it would just involve looking through the points laid out in the request and copying the code if everything's good (the draft has been divided into sections on the request). All the back and forth with other editors has caused massive delays and the two-week wait has frustrated my client; I know that isn't your problem but any action to finally get the changes implemented would be greatly appreciated. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 12:58, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

@Davykamanzi: as said, I’ll see what I can do, but I am in full time education so sometimes I find it hard to find time to edit. Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 15:29, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Battle of Goychay

Hello:

I have done a partial copy edit of Battle of Goychay as requested, but it is not finished. I will try to get back to it on the 13th.

Twofingered Typist (talk) 21:54, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

13/9 I've now finished going through this article. There are still a few rough spots, but I hope this helps. Regards, Twofingered Typist (talk) 12:17, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

@Twofingered Typist: thanks a lot. Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 12:26, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

@Twofingered Typist: would you mind archiving the request? Take the credit. Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 20:27, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

September 2019 GOCE Newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors September 2019 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the September newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since June 2019. June election: Reidgreg was chosen as lead coordinator, and is being assisted by Baffle gab1978, Miniapolis, Tdslk, and first-time coordinator Twofingered Typist. Jonesey95 took a respite after serving for six years. Thanks to everyone who participated! June Blitz: From 16 to 22 June, we copy edited articles on the themes of nature and the environment along with requests. 12 participating editors completed 35 copy edits. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. July Drive: The year's fourth backlog-elimination drive was a great success, clearing all articles tagged in January and February, and bringing the copy-editing backlog to a low of five months and a record low of 585 articles while also completing 48 requests. Of the 30 people who signed up, 29 copyedited at least one article, a participation level last matched in May 2015. Final results and awards are listed here. August Blitz: From 18 to 24 August, we copy edited articles tagged in March 2019 and requests. 12 participating editors completed 26 copy edits on the blitz. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Progress report: As of 03:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors had processed 413 requests since 1 January. The backlog of tagged articles stood at 599 articles, close to our record month-end low of 585. Requests page: We are experimenting with automated archiving of copy edit requests; a discussion on REQ Talk (permalinked) initiated by Bobbychan193 has resulted in Zhuyifei1999 writing a bot script for the Guild. Testing is now underway and is expected to be completed by 3 October; for this reason, no manual archiving of requests should be done until the testing period is over. We will then assess the bot's performance and discuss whether to make this arrangement permanent. September Drive: Our current backlog-elimination drive is open until 23:59 on 30 September (UTC) and is open to all copy editors. Sign up today! Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators, Baffle gab1978, Miniapolis, Reidgreg, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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