User talk:GoingBatty/Archive4
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fear of flying
Fear of flying is not something that is unique or sanonomous with the United states or american people. my mother has a fear of flying and if you check my IP you'll be able to tell that i'm not american. the reason why i changed "businessperson" to "business person" also is because that is more widely excepted than "businessperson"(American version) and if let's say 14 countries choose "business person" over the american way, and the article is about a phobia that isn't unique to the US then maybe have the more widely excepted version. my nutralization is not on things like artists, more like things such as phobias, stars and planets, and alien life theories. You can say i'm nutralizing the articles, but you also can say that i'm fixing it so it is the more widely used version, even if it's not the American version. american people and things directly related to US and such i understand, but things like let's say Jupiter, or Crop Circles, or bees are not senonimus to the US, so as such, if the US term is not the widely used one then i'm going to find the more widely used one if i do not know it, and change it to the more widely used one. that's what my mission is, and i still haven't heard from Krisetn, Kirsty, or Jessica yet on this matter. Those three people may stop my mission, however, if you have advice on how i can go about it the right way, and maybe some articles to look at, then be my guest. i'm not going to totally change the style of english, i'm mearly going to change it to the more widely used version this way it's more likely that a wider variety of people will understand it, ok? happy hunger games, and may the odds be ever in your favor. 199.101.61.190 (talk) 03:57, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- You make a good point about the Fear of flying article. Instead of making the change for a third time, I suggest you discuss it at Talk:Fear of flying per Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:31, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
re: business person
this time on businessperson i only added another varient to it. ("Also business person, businessman...) so don't revert it. 199.101.61.190 (talk) 05:40, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with your change to the Businessperson article. I did, however, change your addition from Business person to business person. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:35, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. as a blind person i'm not too good at telling which case it is in, so thank you. 199.101.61.190 (talk) 07:15, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
business person
Please do not use american versions of the word in Wikipedia as it is not an america only site. besides, my english teacher, who has been teaching sinse 1969 says that it isn't a compound word anyway, and she's right. i've only seen americans do that, simply for laziness's sake. 199.101.61.190 (talk) 22:30, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- Please note that the Wikipedia article is titled "Businessperson", and the Wikitionary article is businessperson. A quick Google search for "businessperson" as one word returns results in The American Heritage Dictionary [1], Dictionary.com [2], the Merriam-Webster Dictionary [3], and reliable sources such as Fortune/CNN [4]. While "businessperson" is correct in American English, it may not be used in other varieties of English.
- Wikipedia's Manual of style advises "An article should not be edited or renamed simply to switch from one valid use of English to another." The Fear of flying article appears to me to be written in American English - note the lead emphasizes "airplane" over "aeroplane".
- It's fine to have discussions and even disagreements about articles, but please remember to be civil, even in your edit summaries. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:44, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
How is it though that business person is turned into a compound word in US, but not in UK, Canada and other such places? i mean if i write "businessperson" at all and my english teacher says it, she docks major marks and tells me "There is no such thing as a businessperson, unless you are in the united states. only in the US is it exceptable to spell it like that, this is canada, so you must always spell it as "business person. ) note that she is the one who calls Americans lazy at english, not me. but I may agree with that to some point but saying you are lazy at english si not being uncivil, saying "Americans are so god damn shitty at english" is being uncivil, and is unacceptable. also let's not americanize wikipedia, i'm against that completely, as not everyone knows american english, so i think that we should try to nutralize wikipedia with some american english and some non-american english. 199.101.61.190 (talk) 01:18, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
no hate
note that i say that we should not americanize wikipedia because i feel that not everyone is going to either understand or care for american english. i do not mean that in an anti-american way. my friend is american, and he's awesome, and the US has many things i like and some very nice people. i just feel that we need to nutralize wikipedia, rather than americanize it. I am going to find some articles that seem too american and nutralize them, unless of corse Either of These people asks me not to. note that i chose two non-americans in order to prevent bias. again i mean nothing against US (USA is cool), i am just acting on my mission to nutralize wikipedia, ok? i've got some ideas but i'm currently trying to figure out how to tackle them. so do not take it the wrong way, i'm not going to d-americanize it, i'm mearly wishing to make articles use both american and british english, i don't care what the subject is about. and i've never heard of an aeroplane. 199.101.61.190 (talk) 01:18, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Also to prove i'm not anti american, i'll ad a Sertain someone who's the best to the list of the three people i look up to to convince me not to go about my mission of making wikipedia less american and more nutral than it currently is, so again, these are The Three chosen ones to stop me. thanks.199.101.61.190 (talk) 01:40, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- If an English teacher in the US had a student who used "business person", the teacher may also dock major marks and encourage the American student to use American English. What may be correct in one country is not in another. Calling Americans "lazy" is not civil, even if you're just repeating what your English teacher told you. The English Wikipedia prefers no major national variety of the language over any other. Please don't waste your valuable time changing articles from one variety of English to another - there are so many other ways you could provide meaningful contributions to Wikipedia. I've added a reminder to your talk page. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 01:57, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Wait, no, please don't tell me you are kristen schall, no, (cringes and cowers into chair) you aren't kristen schall, please tell me you are not kirsty hawkshaw either, nor jessie j. please? please! 199.101.61.190 (talk) 03:46, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- No, I'm not any of those people. GoingBatty (talk) 17:36, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Good, i'd be freaked out if you were. lol (and i don't mean that in a bad way) 199.101.61.190 (talk) 06:39, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Nina's "My Sweet Lord"
Hi GoingBatty, hope you're well. I notice you removed the Nina Simone songs cat from "My Sweet Lord", so I thought I'd mention that she did indeed cover the song, along with Harrison's "Isn't It a Pity", on a 1972 album. Both are highly rated covers. Just so you know – because the other song article still carries the category. Cheers, JG66 (talk) 16:19, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hi JG66! As a result of Wikipedia:BOTREQ#WikiProject tagging request: WP:JAZZ, Talk:My Sweet Lord was tagged with {{WikiProject Jazz}} in this edit. Since this article is on my watchlist, I reverted the talk page change and then removed Category:Nina Simone songs from the article. Although the same change happened on Talk:Isn't It a Pity, that's not on my watchlist, so I didn't notice the WikiProject tagging.
- I'm not disputing that Nina Simone covered "My Sweet Lord". However, the text on My Sweet Lord#Cover versions didn't state that her version was more highly rated than others.
- What's the relevant guideline for categorizing songs based on who covers them? I agree with Category:George Harrison songs and Category:Billy Preston songs since they released a version as a single. In addition to Category:Nina Simone songs, we could also add Category:Johnny Mathis songs, Category:Boy George songs, Category:Megadeth songs, Category:Elton John songs, and dozens more. Where's the appropriate place to draw the line? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:12, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- Oh boy, I thought it was just a nice, simple situation! I see your point, GB, now that you mention those other artists' songs categories. I suppose all those cats should be in the article, to be honest. Put it this way, if I was working on Boy George, Johnny Mathis etc wikipedia pages, I'd notice the omission on the artist's songs page and be looking to complete the list. (That's the case with George Harrison, I think, where one can see Bye Bye, Love, True Love, If Not for You, Got My Mind Set and the other rare covers he recorded.) Elton, Sting and others only performed the song live so those (unreleased) versions don't warrant Category:... songs treatment, of course. Nina's MSL and Pity are notable covers, for sure. (I'd hope the Emergency Ward! article might make that clear; you're right that there's no comment reflecting this in the MSL article, although I made a point of naming Nina early in the lead-in's brief list of artists who have covered the song. Much more about Nina's reading of Pity in that article, because Allmusic had plenty to say about it, and George comments on the Simone version in his autobiography.) So my thinking would be that if an artist made an officially released recording of a song, it should be linked to their Category:... songs page if they have one. That would make for one heck of a cat-heavy article for the likes of Something, Yesterday, etc, but I'd imagine that only artists of some standing have a songs cat page. I don't know, this issue is obviously far more wide-ranging than I'd thought(!). Personally, my focus is on the artist: a songs cat page should be as complete as possible, so I'd assume that a contributor who's looking to improve a particular artist's wiki pages and give a thorough picture of their work (be it Mathis, Andy Williams, Julio Inglesias, Nina Simone, Richie Havens or any other artist of considerable notability), I'd assume that they would add the category to the relevant song pages. Cheers, JG66 (talk) 04:02, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- You know much more about Simone's cover, so if you want to revert my category removal, I won't argue with you. However, the next step after adding of all these categories is then people adding the article to Wikiproject Jazz, Wikiproject Heavy Metal, Wikiproject Country Music, Wikiproject 80s music, etc. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 04:10, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- That's right – the repercussions! It seems to me the Nina Simone cover should be acknowledged; I'm not that knowledgeable about her music, but I've heard enough to know she did quite a few covers and they're always, well, brilliant (eg "Here Comes the Sun"). Let's just say that as a huge George Harrison fan, I'd be delighted to work on a page that carries a Category:Nina Simone songs – less so Category:Megadeth songs, you know? ... Cheers, GoingBatty. JG66 (talk) 14:17, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- Aha! I believe that WP:SONGCOVER is what I was looking for. It appears that there are many cover versions listed in the article that are not notable and should be removed. As of now, the article doesn't indicate to me that Simone's version meets these notability requirements. However, if her cover is notable, then Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs#Categories indicates that the article should be included in Category:Nina Simone songs. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:51, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- That's right – the repercussions! It seems to me the Nina Simone cover should be acknowledged; I'm not that knowledgeable about her music, but I've heard enough to know she did quite a few covers and they're always, well, brilliant (eg "Here Comes the Sun"). Let's just say that as a huge George Harrison fan, I'd be delighted to work on a page that carries a Category:Nina Simone songs – less so Category:Megadeth songs, you know? ... Cheers, GoingBatty. JG66 (talk) 14:17, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- You know much more about Simone's cover, so if you want to revert my category removal, I won't argue with you. However, the next step after adding of all these categories is then people adding the article to Wikiproject Jazz, Wikiproject Heavy Metal, Wikiproject Country Music, Wikiproject 80s music, etc. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 04:10, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- Oh boy, I thought it was just a nice, simple situation! I see your point, GB, now that you mention those other artists' songs categories. I suppose all those cats should be in the article, to be honest. Put it this way, if I was working on Boy George, Johnny Mathis etc wikipedia pages, I'd notice the omission on the artist's songs page and be looking to complete the list. (That's the case with George Harrison, I think, where one can see Bye Bye, Love, True Love, If Not for You, Got My Mind Set and the other rare covers he recorded.) Elton, Sting and others only performed the song live so those (unreleased) versions don't warrant Category:... songs treatment, of course. Nina's MSL and Pity are notable covers, for sure. (I'd hope the Emergency Ward! article might make that clear; you're right that there's no comment reflecting this in the MSL article, although I made a point of naming Nina early in the lead-in's brief list of artists who have covered the song. Much more about Nina's reading of Pity in that article, because Allmusic had plenty to say about it, and George comments on the Simone version in his autobiography.) So my thinking would be that if an artist made an officially released recording of a song, it should be linked to their Category:... songs page if they have one. That would make for one heck of a cat-heavy article for the likes of Something, Yesterday, etc, but I'd imagine that only artists of some standing have a songs cat page. I don't know, this issue is obviously far more wide-ranging than I'd thought(!). Personally, my focus is on the artist: a songs cat page should be as complete as possible, so I'd assume that a contributor who's looking to improve a particular artist's wiki pages and give a thorough picture of their work (be it Mathis, Andy Williams, Julio Inglesias, Nina Simone, Richie Havens or any other artist of considerable notability), I'd assume that they would add the category to the relevant song pages. Cheers, JG66 (talk) 04:02, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
thank you
Thank you for fixing my typo on List of New York City Ballet 2011 repertory! — Robert Greer (talk) 00:40, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- My pleasure! I've just made a few more minor changes to the article. GoingBatty (talk) 00:51, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
A question about notability and page relevance
I noticed that you did some editing on the page for Genesee_Scientific. In a lot of ways this page reads like a biased commercial for a small company that is one of many that sells supplies to the scientific community. I'm curious if this page should be deleted, or if other small biotech supply and manufacturing companies should have pages added. What is your opinion of this page and what criteria should be used to accept new company pages or delete old ones? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewPapp (talk • contribs) 12:52, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Andrew! I reviewed my edits to this article, and it seems that at the time I was simply cleaning up some categories on many articles. The guideline you're looking for is Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). You may wish to tag the article with
{{notability|companies}}
and/or{{advert}}
, and/or discuss the issues on Talk:Genesee Scientific. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 14:02, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Banglapedia dead link
Hi, I've taken the liberty of reverting your "dead link" tag on the Banglapedia link on Banglapedia. This is because over the course of several months I've seen that site go up and down like a yo-yo, and I believe that the Asiatic Society has no plans to move it again or take it down. Perhaps it will be down for the weekend, but it is such a useful source of information for Bangladesh-related articles that I thought it best to leave the link there. Best wishes, Sminthopsis84 (talk) 20:41, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- That's good news, Sminthopsis84! I marked it as a dead link after reading the first post at Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 51#Archiveurl additions needed. Glad it's back up now. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:46, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- Good news indeed. A move from a previous site also happened, and it would be great to have more editor power working on fixing the many links that don't work for that reason. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 19:38, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
rôle vs. role
Would it drive you batty if I were to restore the circumflex in the word rôle for the List of New York City Ballet 2011 repertory? The spelling with diacritic is standard in the ballet world (the dance world has other usages all its own; a choreographer makes a dance on a dancer.) — Robert Greer (talk) 15:41, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
- Go right ahead - I trust you know more about ballet terminology than I do. Sorry for the problem. GoingBatty (talk) 15:42, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for being so accomodating! — Robert Greer (talk) 01:41, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
- I reverted the edit myself, which I should have done when you first contacted me. GoingBatty (talk) 02:12, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you again, your gentlemanly behavior is a great rarity on Wikipedia! — Robert Greer (talk) 02:46, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
- I reverted the edit myself, which I should have done when you first contacted me. GoingBatty (talk) 02:12, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for being so accomodating! — Robert Greer (talk) 01:41, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Deadend tag
One quick question about your bot! When checking for wikilinks does it make sure the page linked to exists or does even a read link count as enough to remove the deadlinks tag? ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 13:47, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- My bot uses AWB's general fixes, which states "Appends {{Dead end}} if article has no wikilinks. Removes the tag otherwise." I always assumed that redlinks would not count towards removing the dead end tag, but I've never tested that. If you have an example article, I'd be happy to test it. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 14:05, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- Could I make you an example article? :) ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 14:58, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- I made my own example instead! I tried processing Adrenergic group C1 with no links, and AWB did not remove the tag. I added a redlink to the article, tried AWB again, and AWB now wants to remove the tag. Therefore, I created a bug report for the AWB developers. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:55, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- Looks like your bot also removed the {{dead end}} tag from Adrenergic group C1 in this edit, even though it doesn't have any bluelinks in the article body. GoingBatty (talk) 00:58, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
- I made my own example instead! I tried processing Adrenergic group C1 with no links, and AWB did not remove the tag. I added a redlink to the article, tried AWB again, and AWB now wants to remove the tag. Therefore, I created a bug report for the AWB developers. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:55, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- Could I make you an example article? :) ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 14:58, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Undo of Addbot
Thanks for the UNDO of an Addbot edit! I had noticed the edit but for some reason I never got around to hitting the Undo button. ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 03:37, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
- You're welcome - I did it just to confirm that the latest AWB SVN snapshot doesn't make the same mistake before responding to your bug report. I was curious as to which of your bot jobs you were running when that bad edit happened. GoingBatty (talk) 03:40, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
- It was task 3 (one of the early ones) I believe which is just general maintenance tagging using AWB, Do you know if the Wikify has been phased out in the latest snapshot? ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 03:43, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Simple English proposal at the Pump
Hello,
As one of the participants in the Bot Request about getting the Simple Wiki to the top of the Languages, you are invited to participate in the reopened discussion of the same. Your feedback will be appreciated.
Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:00, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. I made the same AWB comment on the Village pump that I made on the Bot Request page. GoingBatty (talk) 00:48, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Add a correction to AWB's typo list
I've never added anything to AWB's typo list, so I'd rather not add one just yet. Could you add[T|t]tamil[N|n]adu -> Tamil Nadu. Bgwhite (talk) 17:26, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Bgwhite! There's already a rule for "Tamil Nadu" at Wikipedia:AWB/T#New additions. Did you really want a rule that looks for Ttamilnadu (with two "t"s)? Are there pages where it's not fixing a misspelling? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 01:32, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Then it is not working. See User:Bgwhite/Sandbox1, 48th National Film Awards, 2010 Santosh Trophy and 2011 Asian Sports Karate Games. Bgwhite (talk) 02:40, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:AWB/T#Usage says: "AWB purposely avoids fixing typos in certain areas of the wiki-text. Typo fixing is prevented within: image names, templates names and parameters, wikilink targets, quotations, and any text that follows a colon or asterisk. If a typo rule matches a wikilink target, this rule will be ignored on the whole page." Therefore:
- In your sandbox, it's not working because of your wikilink. Remove the wikilink and you'll see the rule works just fine. Same issue with 2011 Asian Sports Karate Games.
- In 48th National Film Awards, the issue is that the sentence containing "Tamilnadu" is italicized. Remove the italics marks and the rule works just fine.
- In 2010 Santosh Trophy, "Tamilnadu" is within a template parameter.
- The rule works in Pillayarvilai, Ukkadam, and Koduvayur.
- Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 06:04, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- I just added {{R from misspelling}} to the redirects Tamilnadu and TamilNadu. Eventually, these will appear on Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked misspellings and we'll get them all cleaned up. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 06:11, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. I didn't read "...this rule will be ignored on the whole page". Another thing learned about Wikipedia. Only 1,403,405 things left. I typed up some regex rules for the editor and he should be good to go to fix them. Thank you. Bgwhite (talk) 06:29, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- I just added {{R from misspelling}} to the redirects Tamilnadu and TamilNadu. Eventually, these will appear on Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked misspellings and we'll get them all cleaned up. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 06:11, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:AWB/T#Usage says: "AWB purposely avoids fixing typos in certain areas of the wiki-text. Typo fixing is prevented within: image names, templates names and parameters, wikilink targets, quotations, and any text that follows a colon or asterisk. If a typo rule matches a wikilink target, this rule will be ignored on the whole page." Therefore:
- Then it is not working. See User:Bgwhite/Sandbox1, 48th National Film Awards, 2010 Santosh Trophy and 2011 Asian Sports Karate Games. Bgwhite (talk) 02:40, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
MI
Maybe you could go and update all multiple issues tags to use the new style? This would avoid a lot of confusion. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:47, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Magioladitis! I keep an eye on Category:Pages using multiple issues with incorrect parameters and fix those. However, I can imagine that making updates to 55,000 articles that have no impact on how the page would be displayed might get some people upset. What confusion would be avoided by changing the format? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:14, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- I expect problems with people using older versions of AWB in fact. I also don't know if mixed style affects rendering time. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:14, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- Then maybe the solution should be to release a new version of AWB, which will also stop people from adding {{wikify}} to articles. You may be right about rendering time, but I don't recall a conversation about that at Template talk:Multiple issues when the format was changed.
- The best way to fix the MI issue is for editors to fix the problems in the articles, and then remove the maintenance templates altogether. How about we look for articles with multiple issues without a talk page, and add the proper WikiProject templates to get the articles more visibility from people with the expertise and passion to fix them? 14:03, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- I've been thinking about this some more. Doesn't AWB 5.4.0.0 convert MI from the new format back to the old format?
- I'm also looking at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/History. Should the 5.x.x.x row include that one of the changes is support for the new {{multiple issues}} format? Also, should the release date for the 5.x.x.x row be changed from 2012 to 2013? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 22:47, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
- I expect problems with people using older versions of AWB in fact. I also don't know if mixed style affects rendering time. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:14, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Do you have a bot that could either complete this task or help out with the task? I saw you did a similar thing a few sections up ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 19:19, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- Looks like someone else beat me to it. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 22:16, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Jennifer O'Neill article your undo (good!)
couldn't agree more with your undo deleting film reference "Low Hanging Jungle Bunnies"; Where did that derogatory come from ? Out of left field, I think.
A talk question however. This pic sez Jennifer Oneill in Summer of '42. This pic is NOT a shot of her in / from that movie. Do you think that pic should be replaced with the pic of her from the wiki "summer of '42 page?" What sayeth you ? Just a thought, if accuracy is what is being sought here. Thanks... Taninao0126 (talk) 14:42, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- I don't understand why people find it amusing to vandalize Wikipedia, but I reverted it.
- I fixed the caption for the picture on Jennifer O'Neill article to reflect it's from Lady Ice in 1973. (Click on the picture to go to File:Jennifer O'Neill 1973.JPG, then click on the ebay link, and scroll down to see a picture of the back of the photo.) I think it's a much better picture of her face than the movie poster on the Summer of '42 article. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:55, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
P.S. I had forgotten to mention in my talk question above that the source of this pic and that this pic was from the Lady Ice movie (I knew that), but you caught it anyway. Great!!! Hey, you ARE good !! Thanks... Taninao0126 (talk) 13:08, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
P.P.S. In the filmography credits, there is her 1991 movie Committed, but it is in red (is this bad, for "page does not exist" !!??) but there is a proper credit for it in the IMDB webpage at: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094900/?ref_=fn_al_tt_6 Should this be fixed as well ?? Thanks.. Taninao0126 (talk) 13:16, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
- You're correct - the link to Committed is a redlink because Wikipedia doesn't have an article for the 1991 film. Wikipedia:Red link states: "It is useful in editing article text to create a red link to indicate that a page will be created soon or that an article should be created for the topic because the subject is notable and verifiable" and "Articles should not have red links to topics that are unlikely ever to have an article." Wikipedia:Notability (films) has lots of information about determining whether or not a film is notable, and states: "Examples of coverage insufficient to fully establish notability include...listings in comprehensive film guides such as...the Internet Movie Database."
- I'm not familiar with the film, so I don't know if it's notable or not. User:Steel1943 added the red link in this edit, so you might want to ask that user on his/her talk page, or raise the question on Talk:Jennifer O'Neill. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 16:50, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hey GoingBatty, I stumbled upon this conversation by complete coincidence when I was checking to see if my red link to the nonexistent article Committed (1991 film) was a valid redlink (basically, a redlink that is in more than one article and could/should be created.) Long story short, I saw that it was in at least three articles, and about four months ago, already answered Taninao0126's question here. Steel1943 (talk) 01:01, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Steel1943! I'm not familiar Committed - is it more notable than the other films in O'Neill's filmography that don't have Wikipedia articles? GoingBatty (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- GoingBatty, as far as I know, it's as notable as the rest that do not ... since I do not know anything about the film Committed, or Jennifer O'Neill in general, for that matter. In my response to Taninao0126 on my talk page, I was more or less providing a good plan of action for Taninao0126 to avoid an edit war on the Jennifer O'Neill article. Steel1943 (talk) 01:15, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- I see that you fixed the date of the film, which is good, and that you were encouraging Taninao0126 against adding an external link to the body of the article, which is also good. However, after reading the talk page section a few times, I still don't understand why you added a red link to just that one film. It makes that film stand out more than all the others. Sorry if I'm being dense. GoingBatty (talk) 01:23, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- The reason I made it a red link was due to a couple of reasons:
- There is already at least one film in Wikipedia with a full article with the name Committed (Committed (2000 film)). I wanted to make sure that any editors who saw the Committed text on Jennifer O'Neill, in the future, did not link it to that movie, or link it to Committed, which is a disambiguation page.
- There are other notable people who were cast in Committed (1991 film), including Ron Palillo, most notable for being on the 1970's TV series Welcome Back, Kotter.
- I felt that these two reasons provided the notability to warrant the existence of the red link. Steel1943 (talk) 01:38, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with your concern in reason #1, but you could accomplish the same goal with a comment in the code that's not visible to the reader. Reason #2 looks good to me. Hope Taninao0126 will agree. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 01:41, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- The reason I made it a red link was due to a couple of reasons:
- I see that you fixed the date of the film, which is good, and that you were encouraging Taninao0126 against adding an external link to the body of the article, which is also good. However, after reading the talk page section a few times, I still don't understand why you added a red link to just that one film. It makes that film stand out more than all the others. Sorry if I'm being dense. GoingBatty (talk) 01:23, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- GoingBatty, as far as I know, it's as notable as the rest that do not ... since I do not know anything about the film Committed, or Jennifer O'Neill in general, for that matter. In my response to Taninao0126 on my talk page, I was more or less providing a good plan of action for Taninao0126 to avoid an edit war on the Jennifer O'Neill article. Steel1943 (talk) 01:15, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Steel1943! I'm not familiar Committed - is it more notable than the other films in O'Neill's filmography that don't have Wikipedia articles? GoingBatty (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hey GoingBatty, I stumbled upon this conversation by complete coincidence when I was checking to see if my red link to the nonexistent article Committed (1991 film) was a valid redlink (basically, a redlink that is in more than one article and could/should be created.) Long story short, I saw that it was in at least three articles, and about four months ago, already answered Taninao0126's question here. Steel1943 (talk) 01:01, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
See how they ran
Thanks for tidying up after me, 'Bats (not the first time, I'm sure). I think one can hear exactly what Ronnie meant - a superb solo almost wholly drowned out by the silly vaudeville vocal antics. And of course he and Humph were big pals, so he'd probably have heard the "Bad Penny" similarity straight away. Still, one of my all-time favourite Fab Four hits, of course. The strange thing about the video, for me, is how little we seem to see of George - could be counted on the fingers of one hand, I thought.. but in fact he appears at least 30 times. Cheers. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:40, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- You made some good improvements to the "Lady Madonna" article. Hope someone can provide the reference for McCartney's decision to remix the song. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:50, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- p.s. yes, if Scott did indeed say "behind other instruments", then my change there will need to be reverted. The "imitation brass vocals" could be mentioned separately, but RS for that is needed too. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:57, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
February 2013 disambig contest.
Greetings! I'm giving a prize of up to a hundred dollars to the winner of the February 2013 disambiguation contest, and lesser prizes to the rest of the top four. Of course, the conditions of the contest will make it quite a challenge to win the full amount, but I hope to stimulate competitiveness with a little extra incentive. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:59, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. I've posted a reply on the talk page. GoingBatty (talk) 03:00, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- Best of luck! bd2412 T 04:27, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
The Who
Just curious, but why remove the category? I haven't reverted, since you did it and I figured you had a good reason. Thanks! Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 23:05, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- I thought that Category:English hard rock musical groups was sufficient, since it's a subcategory of Category:English rock music groups, per WP:SUBCAT. Please let me know if this set of categories is an exception to the general guideline. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:10, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- Sounds good! I don't object, but some of the more genre-crazy might! Thanks for the clarification. Cheers! Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 23:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- If they object, it'll be my own fault for doing so without a detailed edit summary. If it happens, I'll practice WP:BRD and take it to the talk page. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:28, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- Sounds good! I don't object, but some of the more genre-crazy might! Thanks for the clarification. Cheers! Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 23:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Regarding your question as an edit summary on The Joker (Heath Ledger), I would like to ask if you are talking of only the categories or the content too? If the former, I have no idea. If the latter, then I think it might be useful to import as much as is necessary. Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 18:03, 2 February 2013 (UTC) (TB please!)
- I was only referring to whether additional categories should be added. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:07, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- In that case, I have no idea. You know categories better than me. I think you might be best to judge that. Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 18:12, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
New York
I don't see how this could apply. The rule before required a space (/s) between new and york parts before it would match. Perhaps I'm missing something? Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 02:25, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Per Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Regular expression, \s* means 0 or more spaces. GoingBatty (talk) 02:30, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Ah yes. Good point. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 02:55, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Comment needed
Please reply at Rjwilmsi's question at Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs#Skip_if_only_minor_replacement_made_ignores_advanced_F.26R_settings. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:49, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Here too! Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs#Does_not_remove_date_ordinals_from_infobox. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:54, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Question
Hi, GoingBatty. Thank you for taking care of fixing num_employees field at the companies' infoboxes. The bot is doing a good job and by my understanding there has been no problems with false changes. I would like to ask if it is also possible to do this change by bot. As the company infobox has been updated several times, at one moment these fields became obsolete. They are transcluded, of course, but the shorter form is preferred. This change is not substantial, it does not change anything in this how the page looks like, and if I understand correctly, it is not encouraged to use a bot for that kind of separate changes. However, as I have seen with some other changes maybe it could be done when the bot is performing also some other tasks at the page (e.g. this change changed also the template name spelling which is by my understanding is very similar change to this what I proposed)? The issue is that a lot of editors does not use a skeleton template from the template's documentations but rather copy-paste existing infoboxes from other articles, so these fields are reproducing themselves. What you think about this request? Thank you. Beagel (talk) 14:44, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Beagel! You're right - since changing these parameters doesn't change how the page is displayed, it would not be a good bot task. However, I did add these to the Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Rename template parameters page, so people making other changes would also automatically be prompted to change the parameters too. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:58, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
- The bad news is that this won't take effect immediately due to a bug in AWB. The good news is that the bug was fixed today, so people will be able to start making these changes once the new version of AWB is released. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 22:11, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you. This seems to be a good solution. Beagel (talk) 05:30, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
- The bad news is that this won't take effect immediately due to a bug in AWB. The good news is that the bug was fixed today, so people will be able to start making these changes once the new version of AWB is released. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 22:11, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
List of songs recorded by The Seekers
Thank you for your help with this. It is very much appreciated. All the best. Figaro (talk) 06:35, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
- My pleasure! GoingBatty (talk) 11:49, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Backlog by WikiProject
You made a comment at Category talk:Wikipedia backlog#Backlog by WikiProject? back in 2012. I thought you might find this proposal by Biosthmors interesting. Ryan Vesey 21:54, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for thinking of me, Ryan! I posted a comment on both pages about User:Svick/WikiProject cleanup listing. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:00, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- That is super awesome, I'm glad I thought of you! This might render the WikiProject proposal moot, I'll leave a note at meta:Grants:IEG/Backlog pages for all WikiProjects. Do you know what this uses? I had mentioned the possibility of using CATSCAN. In any case, the Svick thing is the best thing since sliced bread! When was this created, do WikiProjects no about it? This is so awesome. Ryan Vesey 03:09, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry I don't know the details about how Svick gets the info from the toolserver, but I'm sure Svick could provide it. I requested the Beatles project to be added, and then posted to both Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles and Talk:The Beatles, but haven't received any support. I hope you have better luck! GoingBatty (talk) 03:20, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- That is super awesome, I'm glad I thought of you! This might render the WikiProject proposal moot, I'll leave a note at meta:Grants:IEG/Backlog pages for all WikiProjects. Do you know what this uses? I had mentioned the possibility of using CATSCAN. In any case, the Svick thing is the best thing since sliced bread! When was this created, do WikiProjects no about it? This is so awesome. Ryan Vesey 03:09, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Hey GoingBatty, just wanted to let you know that an article you created in result of a move, Pythian Baseball Club, is currently being discussed to move it back to where it was originally, Pythian Base Ball Club.
On a related note, I'm surprised that Template:RMNote doesn't exist; it could have made this notification a lot easier. I think I might try to fix that. Steel1943 (talk) 04:52, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- By the way, the discussion is here. Steel1943 (talk) 05:52, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up - I've replied there. GoingBatty (talk) 15:07, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. Perfect way to hit the ball back into my court. References? I got references. I am so glad to avoid an edit war. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.156.92 (talk) 23:48, February 25, 2013
- You're welcome - hope that my efforts will get other people involved to properly update this article. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:54, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
- P.S. When you post on a user talk page or an article talk page, please sign your posts with ~~~~ to automatically add your signature & time. Thanks!
AUF
Thanks GoingBatty for trimming the American University article.Inawe 07:01, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- My pleasure! GoingBatty (talk) 17:11, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks man
I was having the hardest time finding the bottom, just was lazy. they should have software so that talk goes to bottom like a forum. Is really annoying to have to edit talk pages and edit the whole long page.TCO (talk) 22:07, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
- My pleasure! Having a subsection header does make it inconvenient to figure out where to post. Hope this whole issue gets resolved soon! GoingBatty (talk) 22:10, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Confusing edit
Please explain this Why would you remove the publisher? If you care to respond, please notify me on my talk with {{tb}}. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:06, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Cite web#publisher states
|publisher=
is "Not normally included for periodicals". Sorry for not explaining this in the edit summary. GoingBatty (talk) 16:29, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
A cup of tea for you!
Thank you for discussing the bug in {{BLP sources}} so that it got fixed. —rybec 02:07, 6 March 2013 (UTC) |
- My pleasure - always glad to have consistency with these templates! GoingBatty (talk) 02:10, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Question
I believe you would make an excellent administrator, and you would be able to achieve even more with a few extra tools. Have you considered this? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:57, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Martin! Thank you so much for thinking of me. I've read over some of the admin information, and want to take some time to think about this. Was there any admin area in particular you were thinking about? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:25, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- At least the {{editprotected}} (technical stuff) area. ;-) mabdul 09:02, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
- I've taken a look at Wikipedia:Edit requests#Responding to requests and started responding to some of the semi-protected requests. GoingBatty (talk) 15:42, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
- At least the {{editprotected}} (technical stuff) area. ;-) mabdul 09:02, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Optimus Prime
Hello, If you remember, I requested an edit to the part of the Optimus Prime page that states his main component transforms into an ion blaster, and i was asked to provide a reference from a place other than another Wiki. The following reference is from the websites "http://www2.unicron.com/1984-transformers/generation-1/autobot-leader/104-optimus-prime.html":
In robot mode, Optimus Prime actually splits into three components. THE OPTIMUS PRIME MODULE IS THE ROBOTIC SENTINENT BEING THAT IS THE STOREHOUSE OF HIS VAST KNOWLEDGE AND STRENGTH. He can lift 4,000,000 lbs. and blow from his fist exerts a force of 12,000 lbs. per square inch. He carries a laser rifle and can burn a hole in the nosecone of a Decepticon jet fighter at a distance of 30 miles, aided by his outstanding visual acuity. His Prime module also known as Roller, is a smart cart shaped device that he uses to unobtrusively slip behind enemy lines. He can maintain radio control over it at distances up to 1200 miles. Having Roller present somewhere is like being there himself. He can operate by remote control his Combat Deck module up to a distance of 1500 feet. The Auto Launcher mounted on the deck can use a variety of artillery and radiation beam weapons, including most of those used by his fellow Autobots. The launcher also includes a highly dexterous grapple arm which allows it to load itself and change its weaponry. The communications disk antenna mounted on the launcher provides a link between Optimus and all his fellow Autobots within a radius of 50 miles. It can be adapted to a satellite hook up that increases its effective range 10-fold.
This next one is from "http://www.transformerland.com/g1/optimusprime.html":
"OPTIMUS PRIME is the largest, strongest, and wisest of all Autobots. Feels his role is the protection of all life, including Earth-life. Fights unceasingly to defeat the Decepticons. Splits into three autonomous modules: 1) OPTIMUS PRIME... THE BRAIN CENTER KNOWN AS THE COMMANDER 2) Roller, the autobot scout car...a spy who operates up to 1200 miles away; and 3) Autobot Headquarters...the combat deck equipped with a versatile mechanic/artillery robot. Injury to one module is felt by the other two."
In both examples, Optimus' main component is recognized as the "commander","brain center", or "robotic sentinent", not an ion blaster as the Wiki currently suggests. However, as can be noticed in the top example, Optimus CARRIES an ion blaster (or laser rifle, as the example calls it). I hope these references prove helpful. Thank you, MaximusPrime2949 (talk) 18:31, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info (next time please continue the conversation on the article's talk page). I've made the edit you requested. GoingBatty (talk) 02:31, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
FYI
I saw your note on the Walter Raleigh's talk page regarding the edit request. I don't know if you looked into it further so here is what I found. I bumped into this info being added yesterday by IgorChe (talk · contribs) to the Oscar Wilde article. Then when new editor Elvicendecun (talk · contribs) started adding the same thing today. For a moment I thought a proper ref was being added but it turns out it wasn't. The list of honourees was certainly eclectic but not totally out of the realm of possibility. The street stuff was just plain weird and the fact that one of the streets was being given 4 or 5 different "recipients" names gave me pause. My time online is kind of choppy right now so I didn't have a chance to investigate further. If a source can be found to support the honour, of course, the items can be restored and added to WR's article. If this or another editor starts with the same thing tomorrow we might want to alert the biography (living and otherwise) project(s) to see if their editors can verify things one way or the other. Thanks for your time and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 04:28, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
- BTW considering your username and the Batman userbox you sport did you, like me, find it nice that the guy in the UK who escorted the criminal suspect to gaol was wearing the Adam West version of the costume? :-) MarnetteD | Talk 04:28, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
- My guess is that the cover of the prospectus is just a pretty design, and they didn't really rename the actual streets. Hopefully the requester can come back with a reliable source for the other request. (I looked quickly on the University of Oxford website and didn't see one.)
- I'm not familiar with the Batman incident you mentioned, but would love it if you have a link (or video) to share. The Adam West costume and Batmobile will always be my favorites! GoingBatty (talk) 02:20, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
- User:Redrose64 has done some research into the situation and left his thoughts here User talk:MarnetteD#Fiona Bruce etc if you are interested. Here is one link with a pretty good vid that I found BBC I think the story has moved on since this video and you might find better pics out there - I found another one at the examiner.com but that is blocked as spam here at WikiP so I couldn't leave it for you. There is a US cable station showing the Adam West episodes at this time. Though it is not always shown in these repeats I always enjoy the two parter where the Green Hornet and Kato appear in Gotham and Col. Gumm (the delightful Roger C. Carmel gets their alter egos mixed up. Thanks for your reply and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 03:54, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link about the roads - glad Redrose confirmed what I speculated. The Batman video is great! I got to meet this Batman last year and was blown away. (No, that's not me in the picture). Thanks so much! GoingBatty (talk) 04:10, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hooray for the meeting. One of my favorites is meetin Pat Troughton at the 20th anniversary Dr Who convention in Chicago in 1983. Naturally I will be celebrating the 30th anniversary of that along with the 50th anniversary of the show this year. Many thanks for the link and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 04:26, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
- Er. I don't think I've met anybody DW-connected since Spencer Chapman in about 1972-74 (his son sat next to me in school). Most recent celeb I met is Anne Diamond, 2 March 2013 - she opened the annual exhibition of a model railway club that I belong to. Anyway, the Huffington Post has also covered Batman. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:53, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the Huff Post UK article, Redrose! I did a double take at the caption of "Batman" standing next to "Robin" that says "Batman loves a fag and the football after work" - I didn't notice until later. :-) GoingBatty (talk) 20:17, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
- Er. I don't think I've met anybody DW-connected since Spencer Chapman in about 1972-74 (his son sat next to me in school). Most recent celeb I met is Anne Diamond, 2 March 2013 - she opened the annual exhibition of a model railway club that I belong to. Anyway, the Huffington Post has also covered Batman. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:53, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hooray for the meeting. One of my favorites is meetin Pat Troughton at the 20th anniversary Dr Who convention in Chicago in 1983. Naturally I will be celebrating the 30th anniversary of that along with the 50th anniversary of the show this year. Many thanks for the link and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 04:26, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link about the roads - glad Redrose confirmed what I speculated. The Batman video is great! I got to meet this Batman last year and was blown away. (No, that's not me in the picture). Thanks so much! GoingBatty (talk) 04:10, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
- User:Redrose64 has done some research into the situation and left his thoughts here User talk:MarnetteD#Fiona Bruce etc if you are interested. Here is one link with a pretty good vid that I found BBC I think the story has moved on since this video and you might find better pics out there - I found another one at the examiner.com but that is blocked as spam here at WikiP so I couldn't leave it for you. There is a US cable station showing the Adam West episodes at this time. Though it is not always shown in these repeats I always enjoy the two parter where the Green Hornet and Kato appear in Gotham and Col. Gumm (the delightful Roger C. Carmel gets their alter egos mixed up. Thanks for your reply and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 03:54, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Available for hire?
I obviously don't know how to write what is in my head. (See AWB bug on hidden cat). You have once again translated my pathetic writing. Are you available as a full-time translator? Are you also available to translate wife speak? Thanks again and thank you for next time (probably in the 10 minutes at my rate). Bgwhite (talk) 05:39, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- If I could translate wife speak, I'd be selling my secrets on late night infomercials from my yacht. :-) GoingBatty (talk) 12:37, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
AWB and page previews
You've just reported a couple of bugs about AWB and page previews. The other day I put in rev 8967. Is this a coincidence or am I missing something? Would you be able to retest with the current SVN? Thanks Rjwilmsi 11:26, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- It's not a coincidence at all. I saw Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs/Archive 21#AWB preview no longer shows red links in red, and thought this fix was just the redlinks issue. If this also fixes all the issues I reported yesterday, then I'm very excited, and apologize for the unnecessary bug reports. I'll be happy to test these when the next SVN version is released. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 12:48, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Userspace
Is there anyway to stop your bot editing my userspace? ★★RetroLord★★ 11:08, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Retrolord! I'm presuming you're referring to edits such as this one, where my bot commented out the content categories. The best way to stop my bot from editing your userspace is to ensure that the pages in your userspace do not contain any content categories. Per WP:USERNOCAT: "User subpages that are draft versions of articles should be kept out of content categories.... If you copy an article from mainspace to userspace and it already contains categories, remove them or comment them out. Restore the categories when you move the draft back into article space." Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 12:10, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
AWB
Thanks for letting me know. I try to catch strays, but something's always going to slip through, no? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:08, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Wish AWB would show the category in the preview, so you could see if it exists or not. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 16:53, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Nomination of Nogie Meggison for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Nogie Meggison is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nogie Meggison until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
I noticed that you contributed to this article and I am notifying the author and all of the article's significant contributors (6). - ʈucoxn\talk 09:37, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Tucoxn! It's very kind of you to let me know. However, I wouldn't consider my edit particularly significant. I made a fix to the categorization after receiving your message, but have no objection with this article going through the AfD process. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 12:04, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response. When posting the AfD, I notified the article's author and all six of its contributors (not including the bot)... not many notifications. I wouldn't want to be accused of canvassing. - ʈucoxn\talk 14:10, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
SVN snapshot
Hi there, will downloading 'SVN snapshot' affect my AWB's saved settings? i.e. I have saved settings for 'Clean up', one for 'Disambiguation' etc.? GiantSnowman 16:52, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- No - the SVN snaphot doesn't overwrite your saved settings. GoingBatty (talk) 17:15, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Perfect, will download now then! GiantSnowman 19:40, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Article Feedback deployment
Hey GoingBatty; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:32, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know! GoingBatty (talk) 02:08, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Parser trickery
This one is the real trick. Billboard used to always show urls that were of the format <link to first link in browser session>#<link to where editor currently is sans site name], so the parser has to figure out that even though the link starts out talking about the Canadian Hot 100, it really meant the Japan Hot 100.
Whoever coded that generation of Billboard's site should be stood up against the wall and shot.—Kww(talk) 23:55, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Ugh! That's nasty - glad Billboard is fixing it, and that you're working to prepare WP for fix change and any future changes. GoingBatty (talk) 02:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
num_employees field again
Hi, GoingBatty. When you took care of fixing num_employees field at the companies' infoboxes, it was decided to be one time action. Unfortunately it seems that Edson Rosa (talk · contribs) is back editing as dynamic IP. He continues to use a full stop (.) to separate thousands [5], [6], so maybe we should keep this task running. There is not so much what could be done to avoid block evasion as the IP changes every time he starts editing.
I would also like to ask if there is any tool which helps to find duplicated url-s. It would be useful with articles having hundreds of references. Beagel (talk) 06:42, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Beagel! I could run the bot task to change the full stop to a comma again, but can't do it automatically until a fix is published for AWB. While AWB will combine duplicated URLs, I'm not aware of a tool that can provide a list of articles with duplicated URLs. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 16:35, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- Done for all articles in Category:Companies of Brazil and its subcategories - there were only 5 to be changed. GoingBatty (talk) 01:08, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. You are very helpful. I have a feeling that maybe I should get over of my hesitance toward technological progress and request for AWB registration. Beagel (talk) 15:05, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Ali Nasir Article
Dear Batty
I have gone through an article about a famous Pakistani Television anchor "Ali Nasir". It is reliable, however I find that you have reservations about his notability. He is fairly popular and a lot of people like his program. Internet penetration here is limited and thus finding internet references is difficult despite that there are enough citations and references. There is a lot of internet censorship and internet video access is difficult. He always speaks in favour of the people.
I guess you and others may review this article as references are reliable. The warning hurts the followers of Ali Nasir as the warning at the top takes credit away from him — Preceding unsigned comment added by Businessedit (talk • contribs) 10:56, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Businessedit! The {{notability}} and {{BLP sources}} tags were added by User:Au writer in this edit from October. After that, my bot modified the {{notability}} tag so that it points to the notability guideline for biographies. Modifying the tag does not mean I shared the reservations about his notability - I only want to make sure people are shown the proper guideline so they can improve the article and then remove the tags. Since the tags were added, eight more references were added to the article. When you believe the article has enough information to meet the notability guideline and is has sufficient references, you may remove the {{notability}} and {{BLP sources}} tags.
- However, it's very concerning that it appears someone copied the text from http://investorguide360.com/investor-guide-pakistan/ and pasted it into Wikipedia, which may be a copyright violation. Therefore, I have added {{copypaste}} to the article. I suggest that you reword the entire article so that the Wikipedia article is not deleted for copyright infringement.
- In addition to making minor formatting changes, I also added tags to request a date and reference for the Consumer Choice Award.
- Good luck, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
TRS-80 proposed split
Hi there,
I notice that you recently contributed to the TRS-80 article and wondered if you were interested in adding your opinion to the discussion on the proposed article split. If you have no strong opinion either way, or don't wish to contribute, please feel free to ignore this message. Thank you for your time. Ubcule (talk) 16:08, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- My contribution a year ago was minor typo fixing. However, I have fond memories of the sounds my TRS-80 Model III & 4's disk drive made when it booted up, and the way the daisy wheel printer shook the table (and the whole house)! I've made some fixes to the reference format, and commented on the talk page. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 20:47, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- I never liked the name. "Tandy Radio Shack based upon the Z80 microprocessor", yes, I understood that as a fairly sensible name for the first model - but why stick with it for new models, especially when other CPUs were used? Hobbyist magazines of the early 1980s often had articles for software (to key in yourself, no free CD-ROMs in those days) and ideas for hardware modifications or add-ons. A month or two later, there'd be a reader's letter, either "There's a bug in the program that you printed - I keyed it into my TRS-80 and it didn't work" or "I bought the electronic components that you listed, then opened up my TRS-80 and it's nothing like the diagrams that you printed so I don't know where to fit them". One chap I knew bought a TRS-80 Pocket Computer hoping it would run "all the TRS-80 software". Some hope. That clone of a Sharp PC-1211 had its own problems.
- 10 DIM A(10)
- 20 FOR I = 1 TO 10 STEP 1
- 30 LET A(I) = 1
- 40 NEXT I
- 50 PRINT A(10)
- 60 END
- Now, which of the class can tell me how many times the loop will execute? (a) 1 (b) 9 (c) 10 (d) 11 (e) infinity. You may use a TRS-80 Pocket Computer to check your answer. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:41, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- I learned BASIC by typing in games and programs from magazines - can't imagine doing that now. Normally I would have guessed (c), but based on your comments I'm guessing that's not the right answer. GoingBatty (talk) 21:45, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- It should be (c), but on that silly little machine, variable names were a single letter; and although these could be dimensioned for use as a one-dimensional array, the array elements mapped to the variables with later letters. So, A(1) was actually A; A(2) was actually B, and so on up to A(26) being Z. Therefore, since A(9) was also I, the counter I got reset to 1 on the ninth pass through the loop [LET A(9) = 1], so it never hit 10, and the answer is (e) infinity. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:10, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- Wow! Did tech support kindly suggest that you just change I to X in your program? :-) GoingBatty (talk) 23:22, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- It should be (c), but on that silly little machine, variable names were a single letter; and although these could be dimensioned for use as a one-dimensional array, the array elements mapped to the variables with later letters. So, A(1) was actually A; A(2) was actually B, and so on up to A(26) being Z. Therefore, since A(9) was also I, the counter I got reset to 1 on the ninth pass through the loop [LET A(9) = 1], so it never hit 10, and the answer is (e) infinity. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:10, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- I learned BASIC by typing in games and programs from magazines - can't imagine doing that now. Normally I would have guessed (c), but based on your comments I'm guessing that's not the right answer. GoingBatty (talk) 21:45, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- I never liked the name. "Tandy Radio Shack based upon the Z80 microprocessor", yes, I understood that as a fairly sensible name for the first model - but why stick with it for new models, especially when other CPUs were used? Hobbyist magazines of the early 1980s often had articles for software (to key in yourself, no free CD-ROMs in those days) and ideas for hardware modifications or add-ons. A month or two later, there'd be a reader's letter, either "There's a bug in the program that you printed - I keyed it into my TRS-80 and it didn't work" or "I bought the electronic components that you listed, then opened up my TRS-80 and it's nothing like the diagrams that you printed so I don't know where to fit them". One chap I knew bought a TRS-80 Pocket Computer hoping it would run "all the TRS-80 software". Some hope. That clone of a Sharp PC-1211 had its own problems.
collapsed
I started fixing all pages with WPB and collapsed=yes which is redundant. (Example). You may want to have a look too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:03, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Recategorization request
Yep - it's next on my list of fixes. Should start getting to it tomorrow. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 04:29, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
GAN review
Hi. Would you be interested in reviewing my GAN for Song of Innocence? It's been sitting around for a month, and I'd like to nominate it for FA when it passes. If not, no need to reply back. Dan56 (talk) 22:38, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry Dan56, evaluating prose is not my area of expertise. However, I'll run your articles through a few tools to see if I can fix any mistakes to make your GAN process go more smoothly. Looks like there's a big backlog of articles to be reviewed at WP:GANR. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 22:57, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- You may want to make sure that you have a consistent citation style on each article. GoingBatty (talk) 23:40, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- I noticed that you removed publishers from the citation templates, citing the guideline that says not to include them for periodicals. But aren't periodicals like newspaper and magazines, i.e. print? Dan56 (talk) 00:50, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, but I also don't think it's necessary to include Rovi Corporation when you use Allmusic. GoingBatty (talk) 00:59, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
- I only place "Allmusic" in the publisher field, so it isn't italicize, as it would be if placed in the "work" field. Dan56 (talk) 01:01, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, so I changed
|publisher=Allmusic. Rovi Corporation
to|publisher=Allmusic
. If you think the articles have a better chance of getting through GAN with Rovi Corporation, please feel free to revert my bold edits. GoingBatty (talk) 01:04, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, so I changed
- I only place "Allmusic" in the publisher field, so it isn't italicize, as it would be if placed in the "work" field. Dan56 (talk) 01:01, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
sheesh
I dont buy into Tony's style of responding to the issue, It shouldnt be on Confuciouses talk page for a start - if there are already http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:All_Wikipedia_articles_written_in_Australian_English 17,000 + articles with the hidden category - I do not see why Confucious should suddenly add British English to confuse the issue. It is a protocol/ procedural issue nothing to do with Tony's interpretation - or a need for examples... I am taking this to the Australian noticeboard. sats 01:33, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
- Glad it's just a disagreement on what hidden template to add to the article, and not something that impacts the readers. As you continue pursuing this issue, you may want to suggest that someone rewrites the documentation which appears at Template:Use Australian English so it's in English instead of Latin, which is at User:Ohconfucius/USE disclaimer. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 01:45, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Hahaha - I will need more than luck when it comes to this sort of thing. I have to get off in a moment (which means I will not be able to deal with some things till this evening) but have taken it to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board - and BTW - your user name makes me smile - Battye Library is perhaps the major source of my further frustations in life and time consuming after wikipedia editing... sats 01:57, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
- Glad I could provide an accidental smile for you. See you at the notice board. GoingBatty (talk) 02:15, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
RE Comment about user warning
Hi GoingBatty; I like your user name, BTW. :) I left Sluffs the standard level one template issued by Twinkle. I didn't want to create my own message because I didn't want him to accuse me of overstating the warning or doing something else inappropriate. I don't like to change people's comments on talk pages, so I didn't remove them. That also would fan the flames to an already unnecessarily volatile situation. But if you really want the comments removed, an admin probably would do it. BTW, I think you handled yourself with great restraint, for which I commend you. Best! Cresix (talk) 01:40, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Cresix. Thanks for the explanation (and compliment). I'm not a Twinkle user, but I did a bit of research and took a stroll over to WP:UTM, and didn't realize how many different templates there are for user messages! {{uw-harass1}} and {{uw-agf1}} look like reasonable choices as well. Thanks again, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:34, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
- Just noticed this, and decided to post a link to WP:DTA. It's just an essay, but I stand by it.—Kww(talk) 02:39, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for sharing that Kww - I hadn't seen that before, but can respect that opinion. GoingBatty (talk) 02:43, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
- Just noticed this, and decided to post a link to WP:DTA. It's just an essay, but I stand by it.—Kww(talk) 02:39, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks much
Thank you for your helpful edits to the new article I'd created, Neville Page, much appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 02:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
- My pleasure - I've made some more changes. GoingBatty (talk) 03:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. Personally I'm of the opinion that the more information and more fields populated in citations, the better, but oh well. — Cirt (talk) 04:17, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Cirt - You did a great job on this article! My goal was to remove redundant information per Template:Cite web#publisher, such as stating that The Morning Call is published by The Morning Call, Inc. Just because there are a lot of fields in the template doesn't mean they all have to be used. Having said that, if you think I went too far and removed an important piece of information, please feel free to revert part of my edits. Thanks, and keep up the good work! GoingBatty (talk) 12:28, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
- No worries, no big deal really, just personal preference I guess. Thanks again, — Cirt (talk) 13:45, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Cirt - You did a great job on this article! My goal was to remove redundant information per Template:Cite web#publisher, such as stating that The Morning Call is published by The Morning Call, Inc. Just because there are a lot of fields in the template doesn't mean they all have to be used. Having said that, if you think I went too far and removed an important piece of information, please feel free to revert part of my edits. Thanks, and keep up the good work! GoingBatty (talk) 12:28, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. Personally I'm of the opinion that the more information and more fields populated in citations, the better, but oh well. — Cirt (talk) 04:17, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
AWB help on feature requests & bug reports
Hi, for AWB bug reports and feature requests I am asking for your help, whenever you are able to give it (please treat this as an open invite so include other willing editors if you're aware of them). I think AWB needs a team of knowledgeable users to support the improvement of AWB. You are one of the editors I see doing this currently, I am asking for more of your help. We are limited in development resource so I'm asking for more help in areas that non-developers can support. So
For bug reports:
- where the status is need information, we need to chase up the editor/s involved to get the required details.
- where the bug is an exception, we need to know if/how it can be reproduced.
- duplicate reports could be cleared
For feature requests:
- where the status is need information, we need to chase up the editor/s involved to get the required details.
- generally we need to make sure the feature request is clear, there is a link to the MOS/policy page/template documentation wherever needed, there is consensus for it.
- if the feature request lacks consensus/is against policy we should archive it and notify the editor.
- we should ideally prioritize feature requests. We could add a new parameter to the feature request template for this. I would like to see requests as high/medium/low based on criteria such as value added by feature/time saved for user/number of pages or templates affected. This will help to focus development effort and clear down unreasonable feature requests.
All of the above is up for improvement, we could discuss on Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Dev. Thanks Rjwilmsi 19:00, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
- I'll be happy to help - I'll reply on the Dev page. GoingBatty (talk) 00:48, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
- I was wondering whether I can download and use snapshot now. Auto-update forced me to use AWB 5.5. Unfortunately, it's majorly inconvenient now that the edit window feature (Click in diff box to focus edit box) doesn't work. -- Ohconfucius ping / poke 06:55, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- Long answer is here.
- Short answer is: Download Microsoft.mshtml.dll from here and install in your AWB directory. Bgwhite (talk) 07:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- Works now, thanks. -- Ohconfucius ping / poke 11:58, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- I was wondering whether I can download and use snapshot now. Auto-update forced me to use AWB 5.5. Unfortunately, it's majorly inconvenient now that the edit window feature (Click in diff box to focus edit box) doesn't work. -- Ohconfucius ping / poke 06:55, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Feedback
New user feedback on the WIKIpedia Nasza Klasa pageNoworyta (talk) 02:36, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Noworyta! I took a quick look at Nasza-klasa.pl and removed a duplicate infobox. I won't be on wiki for a few days, but I'll look at it again soon. GoingBatty (talk) 16:51, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Talkback
Message added 01:42, 5 April 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Jason Quinn (talk) 01:42, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Michael jackson dead link
Hi, thanks for arranging the links! If I wanted to add new information to the page of Michael Jackson, I might ask you?Of course, in proper English. Forgive me for my English but I'm Italian :) --LilaMJ (talk) 22:21, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- Ciao LilaMJ! Your English is much better than my Italian! Instead of contacting me directly, I suggest you post your suggestions on Talk:Michael Jackson, so multiple people will be able to help you. Grazie! GoingBatty (talk) 22:29, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi GoingBatty, I have written on the page Talk:Michael Jackson but still no one answered me. You should change a lot of little things on the page of Michael Jackson. I'm sorry and thank you! --LilaMJ (talk) 20:22, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hi LilaMJ - I responded at Talk:Michael Jackson#1991–93: Dangerous, Heal the World Foundation, and Super Bowl XXVII. GoingBatty (talk) 00:47, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks!! :) --LilaMJ (talk) 23:27, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi GoingBatty,I write on your page because on the page Talk:Michael Jackson, no one answers. Scribd.com considered a reliable source: I used it on the page of Michael Jackson-wikipedia italian. On Scribd. com are inserted the most documents also of some significance. On page unonotizie.it speaking of tours donated to charity. And for $ 300 million, there is another source[1]. Thanks!! --LilaMJ (talk) 21:14, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Conspiracies
Dont let them trick you into changing things - Its all a general hoax- Michael Jackson Faked His Death or Michael Joe and Michael Joseph are twins ....
- The reference in the article
- Joseph is also used on his LAST WILL
- His fortune was all under the title Estate of Michael Joseph Jackson
- Books he has written and published like Moomwalk use Joseph
- Michael Jackson (13 October 2009). Moonwalk. Random House Digital, Inc. pp. 6–. ISBN 978-0-307-71698-9. Retrieved 11 November 2011.
- In interviews with him over the years "Ebony" has used "Joseph"
- Looks like he wrote "Joseph" himself on his kids Birth certificates
- His children also have this middle name -
- Mary K. Pratt (1 January 2010). Michael Jackson: King of Pop. ABDO. p. 100. ISBN 978-1-60453-788-8.
.........Moxy (talk) 06:55, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info - I'll respond at Talk:Michael Jackson. GoingBatty (talk) 00:33, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
BattyBot and BannerShells
Hi there. Since 2 April, your bot User:BattyBot has done edits to talk-pages like this, where the only difference is that the bot adds {{WikiProjectBannerShell}}. I must admit, I don't like BannerShell's, but I am aware of that bots regularly add those shells to talk-pages when they fix something else on the page. In six of the eight edits your bot has done in the last three days (in my watchlist), the only difference is the addition of a BannerShell. I wonder if this really is necessary, or if this is what is called trivial editing? There are probably thousands of pages where there is no BannerShell, is your bot going to add one to every talk-page? Mentoz86 (talk) 08:24, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Mentoz86! The bot request for approval references Wikipedia:Talk page layout, which recommends the use of the {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} template when 2+ WikiProject templates are present. AWB only adds WikiProjectBannerShell when three or more or present. So my bot has been skipping 80-90% of talk pages since they already have WikiProjectBannerShell or have less than 3 WikiProject templates. I'll be off-wiki for a few days, so I've turned the bot off for now and I'll see what discussion occurs while I'm gone. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:16, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- Seeing no objections, I plan to turn the bot back on. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 00:20, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Need help
Hi GoingBatty, plz help me in removing the tag {{Orphan|date=April 2013}} added by Yobot. I have shown links and references for the article.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ningombam_Bupenda_Meitei . I also had a long discussion with Avoided long back and the article had no problem. Donizo (talk) 21:06, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
You wrote on Yobot talk page ":Hi Donizo! I see you have already removed the orphan tag from Ningombam Bupenda Meitei. Wikipedia:Orphan#Criteria defines as orphaned article as one with no incoming links from other articles. The best way to solve this is by adding links from other articles to Ningombam Bupenda Meitei. For example, I added a link from List of alumni of St. Stephen's College, Delhi to Ningombam Bupenda Meitei. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 18:06, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- My edit to List of alumni of St. Stephen's College, Delhi was reverted because I didn't provide a reference. Therefore I have requested a reference on the Ningombam Bupenda Meitei article. Once you have it, feel free to add it to both pages. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 04:20, 25 March 2013 (UTC) " Donizo (talk) 21:08, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- I copied the reference from the Ningombam Bupenda Meitei article and added it to List of alumni of St. Stephen's College, Delhi in this edit. Therefore the Ningombam Bupenda Meitei article is no longer an orphan. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:37, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you ,Batty. But,it says as Ningombam Bupenda Meitei, Indian writer, essayist, and poet.[2][not in citation given] ,please check it again.Donizo (talk) 10:53, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Neville Page
On 12 April 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Neville Page, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that creature and concept designer Neville Page portrayed minor roles in soap operas, including General Hospital? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Neville Page. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:03, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know! GoingBatty (talk) 00:04, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Citations using unsupported parameters
I saw you add "Pages with citations using unsupported parameters" to your user page. I came across some good ones today... Gang Forward and Atlantic (horse). It is hard to tell if there are actual references among the sea of red. Bgwhite (talk) 06:47, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- Um, I don't see any red in those two articles, and don't see those pages in Category:Pages with citations using unsupported parameters, and don't see any recent edits to those pages to fix them. GoingBatty (talk) 16:20, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) AWB's "Highlight errors" option shows plenty of red in both articles; maybe that's what Bgwhite meant. It looks as if the intended URLs contain spaces and vertical bars. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:21, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- Fixed both articles using AWB. GoingBatty (talk) 21:13, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- The "sea of red" was viewing the references section via my web browser. frommm=, toyyyy= and l-textSearchScope= were among the unsupported parameters. Thanks for fixing them. I stumbled on the pages because of an AfD about a horse. The creating editor was new when he did the two articles. Bgwhite (talk) 21:42, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hmmm - interesting that I didn't see the "sea of red" from my browser. GoingBatty (talk) 21:43, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- I see it in IE, Firefox and Chrome. I also see when logged out of Wikipedia. Can you see it when logged out while viewing this page? Bgwhite (talk) 22:09, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- I see it very clearly in IE using the link you provided, and I didn't need to log out to see it. GoingBatty (talk) 22:13, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- I guess you aren't married. My wife has me seething red at every turn. Bgwhite (talk) 23:13, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- I have a Wikipedia widow at home too. Maybe I'm seething red so often that I'm desensitized to red? :-) GoingBatty (talk) 23:15, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- I guess you aren't married. My wife has me seething red at every turn. Bgwhite (talk) 23:13, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- I see it very clearly in IE using the link you provided, and I didn't need to log out to see it. GoingBatty (talk) 22:13, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- I see it in IE, Firefox and Chrome. I also see when logged out of Wikipedia. Can you see it when logged out while viewing this page? Bgwhite (talk) 22:09, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hmmm - interesting that I didn't see the "sea of red" from my browser. GoingBatty (talk) 21:43, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- The "sea of red" was viewing the references section via my web browser. frommm=, toyyyy= and l-textSearchScope= were among the unsupported parameters. Thanks for fixing them. I stumbled on the pages because of an AfD about a horse. The creating editor was new when he did the two articles. Bgwhite (talk) 21:42, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- Fixed both articles using AWB. GoingBatty (talk) 21:13, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) AWB's "Highlight errors" option shows plenty of red in both articles; maybe that's what Bgwhite meant. It looks as if the intended URLs contain spaces and vertical bars. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:21, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- Found the reason why the red was showing up for me... The errors are visible if you add some code to your vector.css file. However, this will no longer be necessary once the changeover to Lua is complete. They currently have some errors showing up without the need of the css changes. So, maybe you two had the "old" version cached somehow while I didn't. Module talk:Citation/CS1/Error checking has a listing of all the errors the new module currently checks. There is also Help:CS1 errors. Bgwhite (talk) 19:47, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- I'm all for blaming it on the cache! I'm not sure I like all the red. While some highlight problems that need to be fixed in order for all the proper data to be displayed, others could continue to be quietly wrong (such as references that contain
|curly=y
). GoingBatty (talk) 22:11, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- I'm all for blaming it on the cache! I'm not sure I like all the red. While some highlight problems that need to be fixed in order for all the proper data to be displayed, others could continue to be quietly wrong (such as references that contain
- Found the reason why the red was showing up for me... The errors are visible if you add some code to your vector.css file. However, this will no longer be necessary once the changeover to Lua is complete. They currently have some errors showing up without the need of the css changes. So, maybe you two had the "old" version cached somehow while I didn't. Module talk:Citation/CS1/Error checking has a listing of all the errors the new module currently checks. There is also Help:CS1 errors. Bgwhite (talk) 19:47, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
EdinBot
Thank you for your notification. And you are completely right: the output is written to en.wiki instead of bs.wiki. I was already wondering why I didn't get any output. Sorry for this! I hope the block can be undone. Thank again! Regards. -- Edinwiki (talk) 02:17, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Found the issue and fixed it. Everything seems fine right now. Thanks. -- Edinwiki (talk) 02:36, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Great - thanks for the quick response! GoingBatty (talk) 02:37, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
MI
Do we have an estimate of how many pages still use the old style of Multiple Issues? -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:11, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
- I don't - Maybe someone could add a tracking category or use a toolserver query or a database dump? GoingBatty (talk) 22:51, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
- Anything would do. I expect the numbers to go down but the question is how fast. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:03, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
- I just updated 650+ articles, with another 300 or so to do. GoingBatty (talk) 04:08, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
- Finished updating the MI templates that had
|rewrite=
, with another 120+ articles updated. GoingBatty (talk) 00:45, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- Finished updating the MI templates that had
- I just updated 650+ articles, with another 300 or so to do. GoingBatty (talk) 04:08, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
- Anything would do. I expect the numbers to go down but the question is how fast. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:03, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
AFT5 re-enabled
Hey GoingBatty :). Just a note that the Article Feedback Tool, Version 5 has now been re-enabled. Let us know on the talkpage if you spot any bugs. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 00:51, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Another CongLink bot needed
You did such a great job on the washpo problem, here's another one. Hope it's easy for you to just modify what you did earlier. Note the change in the votesmart param value. Anything with an alpha value no longer works, and there's no way to convert it. So again, it needs to be blanked. 184.78.81.245 (talk) 17:55, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- I just posted on Template talk:CongLinks#Votesmart parameter to make sure there's support for this request before beginning. I've seen a few well-meaning bot operators start working on a request only to find out later that there wasn't consensus to do so, so I'm being extra cautious. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:00, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
- Doing... GoingBatty (talk) 02:20, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
- Done GoingBatty (talk) 18:23, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you! 184.78.81.245 (talk) 18:38, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- Done GoingBatty (talk) 18:23, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
- Doing... GoingBatty (talk) 02:20, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Crashing project taggings by bot
Hello GoingBatty. If you check this edit and this edit, you'll notice that your bot "crashed" the project tags by removing the "1=" part, which means that the project tags were no longer visible and the articles disappeared from their projects! I noticed these two because I follow WP:SWEDEN, and I've rolled backed these two edits. If you've done more of these, I'd recommend you to clean up the mess, and be a bit more careful about how you use bot edits in the future. Regards, Tomas e (talk) 20:03, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- Please note that BattyBot didn't remove a
1=
it added it. The actual problem was that in both cases the{{WikiProjectBannerShell}}
ended with
|}}
- instead of a simple
}}
- The spurious pipe sets the first positional parameter to a blank; removing it, as here, will fix the
{{WikiProjectBannerShell}}
for the future. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:17, 26 April 2013 (UTC)- Tomas e - thanks for letting me know. My problem was not excluding pages that already had {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} before working the list. I will be more careful in the future.
- Redrose64 - thanks for figuring out the issue. Interesting thet that WPBS template seemed to work before my bot's edit, even though the template wasn't formatted per the documentation.
I'll report the AWB bug.Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:21, 28 April 2013 (UTC)- I reviewed the bot's last 8,000 edits and couldn't find another example of a talk page that contained the text "WikiProject Architecture" but was not appropriately categorized. Therefore, I won't be asking the AWB developers to fix something that should be rare. GoingBatty (talk) 20:41, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Bot to remove redundant "multiple issues" tags
Hi there,
I wanted to draw your attention to a comment I posted at Template talk:Multiple issues#Bot to remove redundant "multiple issues" tags, as it concerns something that you worked on last year and thought you might have valuable input on it this time around. Thanks! —sroc (talk) 07:53, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up - running the bot task now. GoingBatty (talk) 17:26, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- No worries! Thanks! —sroc (talk) 23:28, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Done - over 300 articles fixed. GoingBatty (talk) 23:30, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- No worries! Thanks! —sroc (talk) 23:28, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Btw, GoingBatty, I fixed a bug that caused multiple multiple issues tags on pages. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:19, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Excellent - thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:26, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Old error for Template:Advert
Hi, Going. I don't know if you know about (or have fixed) this problem which broke the {{advert}}
template. I think it was doing a 's/\|article//'
which should have been 's/\|article\|/\|/'
--Redrose64 (talk) 16:31, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- No, I hadn't fixed this issue, so thanks for letting me know. Removing "article" from most templates is OK, but not with {{advert}}, unless you add |2= to the next parameter. Therefore, I'll play it safe and not remove it anymore. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:01, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Lua cites still have new red messages
There are some who think the new red-error messages in the wp:CS1 Lua cites should remain, even though only 5% of "170,000" red-error pages have been fixed in the past 3 weeks. I would have thought the messages would be considered excessive (to be suppressed now), after the evidence has shown how the 9,100 active article editors cannot fix the red-error cite messages in less than a year. For the cite bots, any misspelled parameters not fixed by a cite-bot, have remained, with red-error messages showing the misspelled words, for 3 weeks now. There is an ongoing partial wp:VPP policy discussion, about the cite accessdate/url error messages:
You might want to join that discussion, or not, and this is just a reminder that the topics are being discussed in a wider forum. Feel free to comment, or delete this reminder if too busy. Just FYI. -Wikid77 (talk) 22:38, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- I'll keep an eye on that discussion - thanks for the heads up. I've done some bot runs to try to clear up some of the error messages, and would be willing to do more if there are patterns you're seeing. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:22, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Main Page appearance: George Harrison
This is a note to let the main editors of George Harrison know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on May 4, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or one of his delegates (Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), Gimmetoo (talk · contribs), and Bencherlite (talk · contribs)), or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 4, 2013. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:
George Harrison (1943–2001) was an English musician, singer, and songwriter who achieved international fame as the lead guitarist of the Beatles. By 1965 Harrison had begun to lead the other Beatles into folk rock through his interest in the Byrds and Bob Dylan, and towards Indian classical music through his use of the sitar on "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)". He developed an interest in the Hare Krishna movement and became an admirer of Indian culture and mysticism, introducing them to the other Beatles and their Western audience. Following the band's break-up in 1970, Harrison released several best-selling singles and albums as a solo performer, and in 1988 co-founded the platinum-selling supergroup the Traveling Wilburys. A prolific recording artist, he was featured as a guest guitarist on tracks by Badfinger, Ronnie Wood and Billy Preston, and collaborated on songs and music with Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton and Tom Petty, among others. He also organized the 1971 Concert for Bangladesh with Ravi Shankar, a precursor to later benefit concerts such as Live Aid. Harrison was also a music and film producer, founding Dark Horse Records in 1974 and co-founding HandMade Films in 1978. (Full article...)
UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- Done - thanks for the heads up! GoingBatty (talk) 02:14, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
AWB feature request
Could you go thru your feature requests and see if any can be removed.... trying to clean the feature request page. Boy you do complain alot. :) Bgwhite (talk) 04:24, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
- When maintenance templates immediately follow section header, change to section template
- When changing "b." to "born", add Category:xxxx births
- Birth dates with "c."
- Do not include unimportant prefixes in DEFAULTSORT
Disambiguate {{dn|wikilink}}Change {{cite web}} to {{cite news}}- Fix whitespace before/after punctuation
Expand date format corrections per WP:DATESNO- Change "Main Articles" to Main|xxx|yyy
- Allow non-bots to use Auto Shutdown feature
- Include more additions/changes in edit summary
- Expand template redirect functionality to talk pages (zeroth section only)
- Provide alert for invalid citation parameters in templates other than Cite web
- Alert: Stub category directly added
- remove {{Uncategorized}} when categories exist
- Add {{cat improve}} when only categories are Living people, births, deaths
- Add {{Cleanup-HTML}}
- Add {{cleanup-link rot}}
- Change {{unreferenced section}} to {{refimprove section}}
- Populating PLACE OF BIRTH to Persondata
- Remove categories if Persondata populated
- Consolidate multiple {{Redirect}} templates
- Consolidate multiple {{Commons category}} templates into {{Commons category multi}}
- Move infobox above article text
Remove DEFAULTSORT if no longer neededTypo fixing for wikilinks to redirects- Move maintenance templates above infobox
- The bugs are the complaints, not the requests. :-) I've archived a few where it seems that there is not consensus. If we get rid of Persondata, then a few more become moot. For the rest, I'd like to get a response from the developers or users, and I'm in no rush. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 00:14, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- And just why don't we get rid of persondata template insertion and all the associated stuff?
I see that we're removing cite news in favour of cite web... surely these serve slightly different functions, and not all websites are news sites? -- Ohconfucius ping / poke 02:14, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- Ohconfucius - I don't think we've reached the point where consensus is that we don't need {{Persondata}} anymore, although that may be coming soon. I'm not suggesting any removal of {{cite news}} - I just withdrew an old request to develop logic to convert {{cite web}} to {{cite news}} in some circumstances. GoingBatty (talk) 02:35, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- Bgwhite - Another reason to withdraw FRs would be if the issue they would fix is rare. Any help you could provide to determine how many pages would be fixed by my suggestions would be helpful. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:35, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- Ohconfucius - Persondata "should die" when Wikidata fully comes online. Right now there are arguments on how to put Wikidata fields into infoboxes. I'm not aware (that doesn't mean there isn't) any bots importing data from infoboxes and persondata into Wikidata. I have seen talks about adding data via bots in the past. There are some bots doing minor things... Category is about women physicists, so bot adds person as female. Wikidata:Bots contains a list of active bots, but it is hard to get info. Interwiki code could also be removed, but 300,000 articles still have interwiki links that can't be moved by bots. Oh joy.
- And just why don't we get rid of persondata template insertion and all the associated stuff?
- GoingBatty - I asked Magioladitis to go thru his requests too. Next step is to find what has been fixed, won't ever be fixed or is a rare case. Then need to organize what is left into something... high/medium/low priority, hard/medium/easy to fix or something to be determined. This will need input from all of us. Bgwhite (talk) 05:45, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks much for your help at Freedom for the Thought That We Hate
Thanks for your formatting help at Freedom for the Thought That We Hate, much appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 04:23, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- Wow - that was fast! You're welcome! GoingBatty (talk) 04:28, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, well, the page is under a lot of scrutiny right now so I'm trying to be as responsive as possible. :) Thanks again for all your help, — Cirt (talk) 04:40, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Hey =) Just in regards to my edit on the 111th Congress page (very long caption); yea, I realized and was worried about it - I decided to go with it since it seemed to fit in on the page alright + it's mostly a matter, I think, of the number of seat changes making it hard to convey that whilst 59:41 gives an accurate impression overall, the critical 60 seat threshold was temporarily obtained (see: Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act). I felt it was very important to make that clear? Sb101 (talk) 03:47, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Sb101 - thanks for the info. I don't think Yobot was expecting that kind of caption, so we will see what the bot operator says. GoingBatty (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
WikiProject banner excluded
Hi, with this edit, BattyBot moved {{WPTRAINS}}
down and in so doing excluded it from the {{WikiProjectBannerShell}}
. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:26, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. I updated User:Magioladitis/WikiProjects and my AWB module so that it will change
{{WPTRAINS}}
to{{WikiProject Trains}}
, so that AWB general fixes will include it inside{{WikiProjectBannerShell}}
. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 22:36, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Edits in Windows 8?
Hi.
Could you please give me an explanation of what were you trying to do in Windows 8 article? Removing |work=
and putting the work title in |publisher=
field? I don't know about you but I am certainly going dizzy looking at those edits.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 15:24, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Lisa! My goal was to clean up the references in the Windows 8 article. However, it seems that the information in Help:Citation Style 1 and Template:Cite web and User:Ohconfucius/script/Sources all give different instructions, which may or may not conform with WP:ITALICS. I'll analyze the edits and start some discussions to see where we go from here. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 16:51, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- I was also attempting to make the date formats consistent. I apologize that wasn't included in the edit summary. GoingBatty (talk) 16:54, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- That article is a mess from a formatting point of view. The scripts can only do so much. -- Ohc digame / ¿que pasa? 02:12, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hello.
- Look, I am not opposed to date consistency, but I'd appreciate if you don't forget an edit summary when it comes to this controversial issue. We talk and talk and every time have a consensus that Windows 8 does not have any strong national ties to U.S. and that is in fact the secret of its success but then every now and then, some guy pops out of nowhere and changes the date styles to his own heart content on one pretext or another. So, please, make an independent edit, and provide your evidence in edit summary.
- Back to our own subject: Why did you remove the
|work=
replaced its contents with|publisher=
? You say you were following Help:Citation Style 1? Alright, that document gives this example:
|work=Amazon.com
and|publisher=Amazon
|newspaper=The New York Times
and|publisher=The New York Times Company
- Please correct me if I am wrong but this is the opposite of what you did.
- Oh, and I know that reverting may sometimes seem a brutal thing to do, especially after all the time you spent doing those edits but I assure you, I am ready to listen too, not just revert.
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 14:04, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
- The script should actually be changing these as follows:
|work=Amazon.com
->|publisher=Amazon.com
note: websites are not italicised|publisher=Amazon
[unchanged] note: no such thing as Amazon (company is known as Amazon.com, Inc., and the script ignores it|newspaper=The New York Times
[unchanged]|publisher=The New York Times Company
[removed] note: publisher is removed as it is not required for periodicals- -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 14:47, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hello. To put it bluntly, I think that is a very stupid thing to do. Why misrepresent a work as a publisher and violate Help:Citation Style 1 at the same time too? Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 15:37, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hello.
- That article is a mess from a formatting point of view. The scripts can only do so much. -- Ohc digame / ¿que pasa? 02:12, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- I was also attempting to make the date formats consistent. I apologize that wasn't included in the edit summary. GoingBatty (talk) 16:54, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hello again
- I read about your script a bit and it seems to me you are trying to delete valuable citation info to fix a simple italicization. With all due respect, it is the most unwise course of action. Consider reporting the issue to the proper venue for a template code that does not produce italicization where applicable. As far as the consensus goes, however, I do not condone such blunt measures to accomplish so little.
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 15:56, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
- The deletions are not coded in with the intention of fixing the italicisation issue; they are because the information is not necessary. AFAIK, there is a 'fix' to toggle italicisation, but that is not regarded as proper usage and is certainly not written in anywhere. Help:Citation Style 1 is rather non-specific as to the precise italicisation issue, but it seems to have been considered in much greater depth at WT:ITALIC. There is no consensus to universally italicise new media sites, and I believe those that have been changed have gone through individual discussions; my script is adjusted to align names and italicisations according to our own naming conventions. As to "I do not condone such blunt measures to accomplish so little", I am trying to do that to hundreds of references to hundreds of articles to ensure consistency. If you can give me a hand sharpening the "blunt instrument" further, that would be much appreciated. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 06:27, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hi. I'd be glad to do that but first, what is the fix to toggle the italicization? Then, please study my message below and let's see how the situation should be handled. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 06:54, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- @Codename Lisa: - I have no problem with you employing WP:BRD - I was bold, you reverted, now we're discussing:
- I asked for assistance at Help talk:Citation Style 1#Please help make documentation consistent. Input from both of you would be appreciated.
- Changing the dates without an edit summary was an failure on my part to use Ohconfucius' scripts properly. I wanted to change all the dates to mdy (since it appeared that was the primary format in the article), but hesitated when I say {{use dmy dates}}. In my effort to click the browser's back arrow to revert that portion of my editing before saving, I accidentally saved the date changes without an appropriate edit summary. This is my fault, and I apologize for this poor edit. I see that another user changed most of the dates to mdy, and you didn't revert it, so I made a few more date-related edits with descriptive edit summaries.
- My remaining question is whether "ZDNet" and "CNET" belong in the
|work=
or|publisher=
field - i.e. should they be italicized or not. Although Help:Citation Style 1#Work and publisher says to use|work=
for web sites, and WP:ITALIC leads me to believe they should be italicized, the articles ZDNet and CNET do not italicizes the names, which is consistent with Ohconfucius' script. Where's the best place to have this discussion? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:14, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hi. ZDNet and CNET are definitely works and definitely not publishers. With the exception of certain areas, they are online newspapers in blog format. And they should be italicized, per WP:ITALIC. But I understand that you are concerned about other forms of work that should not be italicized, like Microsoft Office website, AV-Comparatives.org, SourceForge.net download pages, etc. Well, yes. This problem should be addressed at {{Cite web}} level, not article. Additionally, we can employ {{Citation}} to write the work name without italicizing it.
I urge you and User:Ohconfucius to take this issue to {{Cite web}} talk page or village pump. Since this is a genuine concern I would be glad to participate as well. The course of action that I think we need to follow is to have
|work-n=
. Alternatively, we can propose "work" to be italicized in all citations, regardless of the nature of the work. (In both cases, it can be argued that it would be abused. The counterargument is: no more and no less than it is now being abused.)Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 06:50, 16 May 2013 (UTC)- I'm not sure that the citation templates talk page is the page for this. We can't just go bash it out on a technical level and then foist it upon the style guideline as a fait accompli. Help talk:Citation Style 1 is but a help resource, and {{cite}} is a tool with its associated documentation. WP:ITALIC is at least a guideline. This would be important point to get right especially if you want to go about italicising all websites, considering there is actually no consensus one way or another at this point. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 07:04, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hi. I wasn't talking about foisting; we propose and try to persuade consensus in fair ways. In Wikipedia, laws aren't etched on stone (or stone tablets); as long as one rule is not a policy, editors have wide latitude to bend it wherever common sense dictates. In this case, the common sense says dumping information that immensely help recovering from linkrot (just because of some technical peculiarity with italicization) is unwise. Extremely unwise. This is exactly the angle which I'd emphasize to persuade a consensus, as opposed to the fait acompli foisting. But I am also ready give credit to the person who has written the original document for having understood the issue. Having assumed good faith in him or her, this seems logical. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 13:41, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- @Codename Lisa: - I agree that dumping information that would immensely help recovering from link rot is extremely unwise. However, I don't agree that someone with a reference containing
|newspaper=The New York Times
is going to be unable to recover from link rot if we remove the publisher to make the References section more readable. Back to my edit to the Windows 8 article that you reverted, if one of the ZDNet or CNET references stopped working, how would|publisher=CBS Interactive
help you recover? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 22:54, 16 May 2013 (UTC)- Alarics said: "We specifically do NOT want the publisher included in the case of mainstream newspapers. This has been discussed more than once elsewhere. It is absurd to have a ref. saying that The New York Times is published by the New York Times Company, and in fact we never do so." (from discussion at Help_talk:Citation_Style_1#Please_help_make_documentation_consistent). -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 03:30, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- @Codename Lisa: - I agree that dumping information that would immensely help recovering from link rot is extremely unwise. However, I don't agree that someone with a reference containing
- Hi. I wasn't talking about foisting; we propose and try to persuade consensus in fair ways. In Wikipedia, laws aren't etched on stone (or stone tablets); as long as one rule is not a policy, editors have wide latitude to bend it wherever common sense dictates. In this case, the common sense says dumping information that immensely help recovering from linkrot (just because of some technical peculiarity with italicization) is unwise. Extremely unwise. This is exactly the angle which I'd emphasize to persuade a consensus, as opposed to the fait acompli foisting. But I am also ready give credit to the person who has written the original document for having understood the issue. Having assumed good faith in him or her, this seems logical. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 13:41, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hi. ZDNet and CNET are definitely works and definitely not publishers. With the exception of certain areas, they are online newspapers in blog format. And they should be italicized, per WP:ITALIC. But I understand that you are concerned about other forms of work that should not be italicized, like Microsoft Office website, AV-Comparatives.org, SourceForge.net download pages, etc. Well, yes. This problem should be addressed at {{Cite web}} level, not article. Additionally, we can employ {{Citation}} to write the work name without italicizing it.
- @Codename Lisa: - I have no problem with you employing WP:BRD - I was bold, you reverted, now we're discussing:
- Hi. Alarics is more than welcome to voice his opinion in Wikipedia just as we all are but at least in this case I am not taking it for the gospel. The counterargument is that in many cases like News Center / Microsoft,Threat Response Center / Symantec, Technical Library / Brigham Young University, we need both the
|publisher=
and the|work=
. (In all three, link rot recovery is almost impossible if one piece is missing.) In addition, there are people in favor of consistency, who believe for consistency's sake, both|publisher=
and|work=
should be present at all the times. (@Nikkimaria: I believe you had a similar opinion?) - To summarize, both publisher and work are at least sometimes needed (if not always) and I do not agree with your script removing them. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 06:34, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- For the purposes of the script, I'm not treating any of your above examples as "periodicals", so the publisher will not be removed (Hell, the script doesn't treat them at all). You debatably class them as 'works'. You are one of the rare ones as I don't think many people would agree with you.
The linkrot problem you pointed out is that '[Microsoft] News Center', '[Symantec] Threat Response Center', '[Brigham Young University] technical library' are just too generic with the establishment name left off for anyone to identify the units concerned. However, the risk of not finding replacement links is overstated as it is still possible to remedy linkrot as the establishment name is relatively easy to find by following the url. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 08:32, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hi. It appears the purpose of the message is getting lost. First, I am not classing them as "works", I am referring to
|work=
and its aliases like|newspaper=
. Second, you are assuming that links are always something like "somesite.com/work_name/subfolder/articlename". Wrong! Sometimes links are like "somesite.com/id=xxxxxx". Third, what do I care if you are going or not going to insert publisher into citations from periodicals! As long as your script does not move "News Center" to|publisher=
, I am fine. As for inserting or not inserting|publisher=CBS Interactive
from a citation with|work=CNET
, it is a matter of optional style and subject to MOS:STABILITY. The rule is simple: Do not fix what is already correct. Last, remember that the subject of discussion here is "Edits in Windows 8". Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 10:39, 17 May 2013 (UTC)- Responses as follows. I'd say there was no problem on most of them:
- our understanding of 'work' parameter seems to be the same
- I don't care much for what links look like, my script doesn't touch any that are in the
|url=
- my script does not move "News Center" to
|publisher=
, although it doesn't belong, in my opinion; I might consolidate these manually to|publisher=
Microsoft News Center - I don't usually revisit an article, so minor changes (without being reverted) will not trigger any reaction from me.
- I may change things that are already correct, usually only if I'm able to make them better.
- I am not specifically interested in Windows 8 over other articles, technical or otherwise.
- Regards, -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 16:59, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- Responses as follows. I'd say there was no problem on most of them:
- Hi. It appears the purpose of the message is getting lost. First, I am not classing them as "works", I am referring to
- For the purposes of the script, I'm not treating any of your above examples as "periodicals", so the publisher will not be removed (Hell, the script doesn't treat them at all). You debatably class them as 'works'. You are one of the rare ones as I don't think many people would agree with you.
- Ongoing discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Text formatting#Should website names be italicized?. -- Gadget850 talk 10:24, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks
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To GoingBatty: in consideration of your fine efforts to improve WP from a technical standpoint; your general good humour and cooperativeness. and thanks also for your continued help with improving my scripts! Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 13:54, 19 May 2013 (UTC) |
Thanks Ohconfucius! I think the scripts are great, and make it much easier to make article references consistent within an article. Keep up the good work! GoingBatty (talk) 02:05, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
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- Fixed - thanks for the notification! GoingBatty (talk) 01:25, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
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Geza Szavai
Dear GoingBatty,
It is about the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9za_Sz%C3%A1vai; I am wondering if the notoces on top coul be removed because that is all the information and links I could get of the person in English and also, his original Hungarian page is linked as reference.
Thank you!
Karoly Gersi — Preceding unsigned comment added by GKaroly (talk • contribs) 05:06, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- @GKaroly: I added a link from Szekler Sabbatarians to Géza Szávai, which was enough to remove the {{orphan}} tag from Géza Szávai. However, it would be great it you could find additional Wikipedia articles where you could add links to Géza Szávai. The remaining {{no footnotes}} template is asking you to create inline citations using the references and external links that you already have in the article. I also made some formatting changes and typo fixes in the article. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 22:26, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Something fishy
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For your mainspace article contribution at The actual link, if it is not your user talk page; type out the full link. Kind regards, and happy editing. VQuakr (talk) 03:33, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- Oops - sorry about that! I used a {{Message}} box on someone's talk page who didn't have the correct link parameter set. I've fixed their talk page so future people don't make the same silly mistake I did. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:43, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
BattyBot and the edit filter
BattyBot is hitting an edit filter here, and seems to enjoy running directly into brick walls repeatedly. The bot should fail gracefully when this happens. --Chris 08:41, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- It's obvious that you noticed the problem. I've fixed the offending line so it should pull out of the loop. I hope you are working on some kind of rate limiter for edits that are blocked by edit filters.—Kww(talk) 14:59, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Edit filter
Check changelog. We may already doing it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:01, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- Latest revision Properly skips page when edit filter yields hookaborted errors -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:03, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- @Magioladitis: - I see you've added this to Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/History. I tried compiling my own SVN, ran into problems, and posted to Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Sources. Looking forward to a reply there and to seeing a new SVN posted. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 15:12, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks everyone! When I saw the talk page message, I tried a few more things, reported an AWB bug and a edit filter false positive. But by the time I came back here to report my progress, all of you had already replied. I tried the edit again, and it went through just fine. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 15:07, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
User rights
I've added reviewer and rollbacker to your acct after seeing your request. INeverCry 01:48, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- "Trustworthy and experienced user"???? I don't know about that INeverCry. All Batty ever does is do minor tweaks with AWB. You can't trust even one AWB tweaker. Watch out Batty, I've got my eye on you. Bgwhite (talk) 04:35, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- LOL! -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 07:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- Hey, at least I'm not one of those guys obsessed with Checkwiki fixes. GoingBatty (talk) 22:53, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- LOL! -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 07:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
J-20 page is being vandalized again by trolls
Dear GoingBatty please protect J-20 page again. I just removed some troll materials. It seems that the same troll from Canada is vandalizing the page again.
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.71.58.38 (talk) 00:53, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not an admin, so I can't protect a page. Please try Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Be sure to mention the entire article name, as there's a difference between J-20 and Chengdu J-20.
- In the future, please add new sections to the bottom of talk pages, not the top. Thanks, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:59, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the sharp eye
Thanks for catching and fixing my typo in the Typos, old pal. How embarrassing. Chris the speller yack 03:36, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- A lot less embarrassing than having the typo in the "replace" section, which is where mine usually end up! GoingBatty (talk) 03:37, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
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Compiling AWB source code
Hi, regarding your comment here. (I am assuming you are using Windows 7) If when building AWB using SharpDevelop it gives you an error about Windows SDK, then you should download Win SDK from here. The installation wizard will give you options to download several components. It is enough to download the component about .NET framework. It is only 73 MB if I remember correctly. Don't forget to also download .NET framework 4.5 from here. Building AWB in SharpDevelop should now work fine. Enjoy. --Meno25 (talk) 12:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- Updated instructions are at User:Bgwhite/Sandbox. Yell if you find any mistakes or if there should be additions. I'll copy it over to the permanent spot after you two go over it. Bgwhite (talk) 19:35, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- Note: AWB is developed under .Net 2.0, so you don't need the latest version of .NET. Bgwhite (talk) 19:37, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you both for your help. I've gotten farther along, but now I'm stuck in a different place:
- Installed the latest version of TortoiseSVN and got the sources just fine.
- SharpDevelop gave me an error about Windows SDK, so I downloaded from the link above and installed.
- Installing Windows SDK gave me an error about .NET framework 4.5, so I downloaded from the link above and installed successfully.
- Installed Windows SDK successfully.
- Downloaded SharpDevelop again and ran a repair installation.
- Ran SharpDevelop, clicked on File -> Open -> Project/Solution, and opened the "AutoWikiBrowser no plugins" solution file.
- Got an error on AWBWebBrowser.cs stating "Error loading code-completion information for Microsoft.mshtml from Microsoft.mshtml: Could not find assembly file."
- Any suggestions? GoingBatty (talk) 02:07, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you both for your help. I've gotten farther along, but now I'm stuck in a different place:
- Note: AWB is developed under .Net 2.0, so you don't need the latest version of .NET. Bgwhite (talk) 19:37, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry I didn't see this message earlier. This problem comes under "NET version 4.0 and greater will work, but will require a slight modification to AWB's code". Net < 4.0 came with Microsoft.mshtml. Microsoft.mshtml is used to render an article when you hit "preview". As it no longer comes with the library, we have to get it from windows.
- On the left hand pane in SharpDevelop, find "AWBWebBrowser.cs" and double click. It is under the "AutoWikiBrowser 'folder'". This will open it up in the edit window.
- One line #2, change "using mshtml;" to "using MSHTML;". Then save the file.
- Now the harder part. On the left pane again under the "AutoWikiBrowser 'folder'", the first folder is "References". Expand it.
- The folder should contain things like, "System", "System.configuration" and "System.drawing". I can't remember the exact name, but there should be one with mshtml in the title. Right click on that and delete it.
- Right click on the "References" folder and click on "Add a reference". A new screen should pop up.
- Click on the "COM" tab.
- Scroll down till you find "Microsoft HTML Object Library". Click on it. Click the "Select" button. Click "OK".
- Under the "References" folder, a new line should be there called "MSHTML"
- You should be able to compile the code now. It will give off some "errors" and it takes a bit the first time. You won't have to do this procedure again... You can update the code via SVN and compile. The changes will still be there. Bgwhite (talk) 05:27, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- @Bgwhite: - This worked perfectly - I'm now running AWB 9244 - thanks so much!
- Would you like some help updating your sandbox instructions? GoingBatty (talk) 23:30, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry I didn't see this message earlier. This problem comes under "NET version 4.0 and greater will work, but will require a slight modification to AWB's code". Net < 4.0 came with Microsoft.mshtml. Microsoft.mshtml is used to render an article when you hit "preview". As it no longer comes with the library, we have to get it from windows.
- Yes Please. You just went thru it so it is fresh in your mind. I moved it to Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Sources and added a few things based on what you said. Feel free to do whatever. Glad that you got it to compile. Especially nice to have more eyes looking at the new changes before it goes out to the world... Even if you are some degenerate that refuses to work on Checkwiki. Bgwhite (talk) 03:32, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Recent edits
This edit has removed a load of work and publisher parameters which shouldn't be removed. — AARON • TALK 23:34, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Aaron! The edit deleted a lot of duplicate and unnecessary parameters - see User:Ohconfucius/script/Sources for the objectives and principles behind this edit. Which parameters in particular do you think should have been retained? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:42, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- All of the Billboard and Digital Spy publishers. They should never be removed. I was going to undo your edit, but it did correct the majority of them. I thought it would be better to come here first and tell you about the minority which are now wrong. — AARON • TALK 23:46, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Cite web#Publisher states that the publisher is "not normally included for periodicals". Therefore,
|publisher=Prometheus Global Media
is not needed for|work=Billboard
. I suspect that Ohconfucius is using a similar rationale for removing|publisher=Hearst Corporation
from|work=Digital Spy
. GoingBatty (talk) 00:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)- But everyone always includes them. — AARON • TALK 00:12, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- No, not everyone includes them. GoingBatty (talk) 00:19, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- I don't know anyone that doesn't. — AARON • TALK 00:19, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, that's a big difference. :-) Come see Featured articles AC/DC, The Beatles, Michael Jackson, John Mayer, Kylie Minogue, Nirvana (band), The Notorious B.I.G., and Pink Floyd for a few examples. GoingBatty (talk) 00:35, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- I've done FAC and FLC a lot of times and no one has ever said that they shouldn't be included. — AARON • TALK 00:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Just because "everyone" includes them doesn't mean that they should be included. There are a few editors going around populating these fields out of some mistaken belief that they are useful, but that doesn't make the information useful. After that, it's 'monkey see monkey do'. And when they do, population of the field is wholly inconsistent: some put in 'Prometheus', some put in 'Nielsen Business' in some form, so it gets highly confusing even for those who take notice of these. Billboard is well known enough to avoid needing its publisher filled in notwithstanding the instruction per citation documentation not to. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 00:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- If I've ever forgotten to add them though, I've also been told to add them in. More people, according to who I know and what I see on a daily basis, include them. Nielsen is older, Prometheus is newer, depending on when the information was published. — AARON • TALK 00:44, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Next time you get told to add them, I'd like to know, so we can thrash it out. I see you're confused too. Prometheus isn't necessarily 'older' or 'newer'. It's all a part of the corporate holding chain, but these are details that detract from (and not add to) the use of Billboard as a source. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 00:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Just made this edit to Mariah Carey, which added
|work=Billboard
with no publisher. Let's see if anyone adds a publisher. GoingBatty (talk) 01:10, 12 June 2013 (UTC)- FYI, Billboard (magazine)#Billboard today tells us that Billboard "was acquired by Dutch publisher VNU (later renamed the Nielsen Company) in 1993, but later sold in 2009 along with the other Nielsen Business Media properties to the new company e5 Global Media, which was renamed in 2010 to Prometheus Global Media." GoingBatty (talk) 01:14, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Just made this edit to Mariah Carey, which added
- Next time you get told to add them, I'd like to know, so we can thrash it out. I see you're confused too. Prometheus isn't necessarily 'older' or 'newer'. It's all a part of the corporate holding chain, but these are details that detract from (and not add to) the use of Billboard as a source. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 00:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- If I've ever forgotten to add them though, I've also been told to add them in. More people, according to who I know and what I see on a daily basis, include them. Nielsen is older, Prometheus is newer, depending on when the information was published. — AARON • TALK 00:44, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Just because "everyone" includes them doesn't mean that they should be included. There are a few editors going around populating these fields out of some mistaken belief that they are useful, but that doesn't make the information useful. After that, it's 'monkey see monkey do'. And when they do, population of the field is wholly inconsistent: some put in 'Prometheus', some put in 'Nielsen Business' in some form, so it gets highly confusing even for those who take notice of these. Billboard is well known enough to avoid needing its publisher filled in notwithstanding the instruction per citation documentation not to. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 00:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- I've done FAC and FLC a lot of times and no one has ever said that they shouldn't be included. — AARON • TALK 00:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, that's a big difference. :-) Come see Featured articles AC/DC, The Beatles, Michael Jackson, John Mayer, Kylie Minogue, Nirvana (band), The Notorious B.I.G., and Pink Floyd for a few examples. GoingBatty (talk) 00:35, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- I don't know anyone that doesn't. — AARON • TALK 00:19, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- No, not everyone includes them. GoingBatty (talk) 00:19, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- But everyone always includes them. — AARON • TALK 00:12, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Cite web#Publisher states that the publisher is "not normally included for periodicals". Therefore,
- All of the Billboard and Digital Spy publishers. They should never be removed. I was going to undo your edit, but it did correct the majority of them. I thought it would be better to come here first and tell you about the minority which are now wrong. — AARON • TALK 23:46, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
I would obviously add it in. — AARON • TALK 13:11, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Would you by any chance be referring to the cite mentioned by GB above? It's put there as an experiment – not necessarily one that I agree would be meaningful – and not so that you can make a point. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 15:06, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Good old Klaus
Hi GB, how goes it? Quick question: I've trawled back through the edit history for The Concert for Bangladesh and discovered you added a category citing Klaus Voormann as having created the album's artwork, or having had a hand in it – can I ask where you got this info? I've always understood this album's packaging to have been a Camouflage Partners creation, from start to finish, and I can't see an artwork credit for Klaus on the 2005 reissue. So I'm intrigued – on the other hand, I'll be happy to admit it if I'm wrong of course! Best, JG66 (talk) 12:32, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- @JG66: - Thanks for contacting me about this edit. Wikipedia:Categorization#Articles says "It should be clear from verifiable information in the article why it was placed in each of its categories." Since that's obviously not the case here, and I can't find any references off hand to support it, I've reverted my edit. If I come across something later, I'll add a reference in the article to support the categorization. Thanks for taking the time to contact me! GoingBatty (talk) 02:51, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, GoingBatty, it's always a pleasure doing (wiki)business with you. You could well have been right about Klaus's contribution, perhaps in the 2005 reissue – I'll keep looking. Oh, and just to let you know, I will be revisiting those lists of cover versions for Harrison songs "My Sweet Lord" and "Isn't It a Pity", which we spoke about last time around. (It was only your raising the issue re notability of each cover version, followed by some more recent song article GARs, that set me straight and made me see the error of my approach previously! This might not make much sense, all these months later, I realise ...) Cheers, GB! JG66 (talk) 10:33, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Mike and the Paramounts
Hello Going Batty!! I'M Mike Nelson from "Mike and the Paramounts" It is very nice to meet you even though it's the computer screen.Thank Yo for your E-Mail!! I don't understand yet how to set up a page. Here is some information so far:
MIKE and the Paramounts History. “TWIST & SHOUT” b/w “DOO-WHA-DIDDY” 45 RPM RECORD Recorded June 20th 1976 Groove Records
Mike Nelson (Born 1-8- 1960) is the Lead Singer of “Mike and the Paramounts” The POP group consisted of four young men. Lead Singer Mike Nelson ,16 years old, Scott Mesa, 17 years old, Jerome Mathers, 16 years old and Stephen Bettencourt, 17 years old. The group was hand chosen by the “Kings Entertainment” Co. via auditions Held in Hollywood.. Over 200 kids auditioned in May 1976 for the job. The four mentioned were chosen to become “ Mike and the Paramounts. Mike Nelson was chosen to be the lead singer because of his Power House vocals according to Producers. It was Americas 1976 Bicentennial Celebration. Mike and the Paramounts were selected to perform at Theme Parks in Anaheim, Los Angeles And through out California to help celebrate the event. On June 2Oth 1976 Mike and the Paramounts record the “Twist & Shout” song for The Groove record label. The 45 rpm single was a double “A” sided record. The flip Side also featured Mike Nelson’s lead vocals with Doo-Wha-Diddy. Another popular cover song. Both were A to B Recordings using no“Auto Tune” because it did not exist in 1976. Lead Singer Mike Nelson and the Paramounts nail the song in only three takes. The flip side of the record,”Doo-Wha-Diddy” also was recorded in only three takes on the same day. The record had only limited release in Anaheim and Southern Calif. “ Mike and the Paramounts” performed all around Southern California the summer of 1976. Screaming Fans loved the power of Mike Nelson’s voice and all of the energy of the Paramounts. Their costumes mostly consisted of bright orange leisure suits with yellow shirts and super wide collars. (Very 70”s) After the Summer of 1976 ended.” Mike and the Paramounts” were offered a real record contract to record an album and two more singles. However the boys all had to decline the offer because of their families and school commitments. Sadly what could have been a good career for the boys had to end because of this. The boys all split-up and went their separate ways. In 2012 Mike Nelson once again proved he still had the voice and put out an independent single of his own. “Jessie’s Girl” is the song and by Mike Nelson’s decision to stay loyal to the group, The record says it was performed by “Mike and the Paramounts”.Even though Mike Nelson sings all of the tracks.
Thank You for your Attention. Chechk out the records on U-Tube. Please E-Mail with more instructions. [email protected] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.169.211.4 (talk) 05:52, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Mike! You might want to visit Wikipedia:Your first article, where it discusses notability guidelines and specifically says "Do not create pages about yourself, your company, your band or your friends..." Since "the record had only limited release in Anaheim and Southern Calif", it's probably not notable enough to mention in the "Twist and Shout" article, unless you are able to provide references that would be reliable sources that are independent from you and the band. (e.g. newspaper articles, chart performance). Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:57, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- P.S. You may also want to read WP:SONGCOVER. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 05:08, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
AWB bar
I just reverted you change as that wiped out where to get the technical and source code information. It was labeled "Documentation" and was renamed to "Technical"
It has been my headache for the past few days. It started on my talk page and went downhill starting at User talk:The Transhumanist#AWB documentation. Looks like his M.O. is to go in and rearrange everything without asking any comments or questions. He means well. Joy.
I forgot to mention. You thanked me for my comment about the watchlist page. You may want to look at User:Bgwhite/vector.css. I remove alot of "unnecessary" wording from the edit window and else where. My User:Bgwhite/vector.js has one that removes the left sidebar. I sometimes need to blow up windows so I can read better. Having less "clutter" makes more room to see the page's content. Bgwhite (talk) 06:12, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- @Bgwhite: - On Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Technical there's the "Technical" section in the AWB header, and the "Source code" link in the new header. However, it seems that most of the AWB pages do not have both of these headers, so I'm OK with you reverting my edit.
- I'll have to check out your files. I'm trying out User:Ais523/catwatch.js, but haven't yet figured out how to get it to recognize that I have the category watchlist set up. What I was really looking for was a way to add a link to the watchlist that's the equivalent of the article revision history "cur" button that shows everything that was changed since my list visit. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 14:46, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
New alerts feature in AWB.
"Now we turn on/off alerts to make searching for certain errors much faster and easier." -- Magioladitis
To turn on/off certain alerts, goto Options -> Preferences -> Alerts. Bgwhite (talk) 21:53, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
- @Bgwhite: - Thanks for the info. Looks like 5.5.1.0 isn't available on WP:AWB yet, so I downloaded the sources.
- I see the new Alerts tab, and noted that it takes two clicks on a checkbox to turn it off - one to switch to that line, and one to change the box from checked to unchecked.
- I'd like to uncheck the alerts for my bot's various settings files, but don't want to save those settings as my default. :-( GoingBatty (talk) 02:41, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- Not sure what you are saying about "but don't want to save..." I'm slow... CheckWiki work makes me even dumber. I actually don't have a "default". I have multiple profiles based upon what I'll be doing. Each profile has a different settings file. Bgwhite (talk) 06:55, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- I have a default settings profile and many other settings profiles depending on what I'm doing. I would like to turn off the alerts for some of my bot settings profiles without impacting my default settings profile. GoingBatty (talk) 12:54, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- Not sure what you are saying about "but don't want to save..." I'm slow... CheckWiki work makes me even dumber. I actually don't have a "default". I have multiple profiles based upon what I'll be doing. Each profile has a different settings file. Bgwhite (talk) 06:55, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks
for fixing the bracket prob in Joseph Mawle that I couldn't for the life of me see. Manytexts (talk) 03:48, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- My pleasure! GoingBatty (talk) 04:07, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the thanks
Thanks for the thanks, and thanks from me to you too. (I just don't know how to send or respond to that fancy notification thingy.) --Lawfare (talk) 17:49, 25 June 2013 (UTC) @Lawfare: - I don't think Wikipedia:Notifications allow people to directly respond to a thanks message, so I'm happy you did it the old fashioned way :-) Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:30, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi, GoingBatty, you requested a copy-edit to the template above on the GOCE Request page. Since it's being considered for deletion, and GOCE isn't for templates, I've put the request on hold until we know the result of the deletion discussion. If this was a mistake please let us know and someone will remove the request. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 22:29, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
- @Baffle gab1978: - I appreciate you letting me know. I replied on the GOCE page. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 22:39, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, noted. I'll archive the request. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:13, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Talkback
Message added 23:37, 28 June 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Oh and you forgot to sign there btw. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 23:37, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Nomination of Tom Crabtree (journalist) for deletion
A nomination is taking place as to discuss whether Tom Crabtree (journalist) should be deleted or not. The discussion will be held at the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Crabtree (journalist). However, do not remove the AfD message. WisconsinBoyClevelandRocks228844 (talk) 03:02, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
AWB Source
Hi,
I saw your well done help and I can go to the step 9. But I've this error for the compile:
- Task failed because "resgen.exe" was not found, or the correct Microsoft Windows SDK is not installed. The task is looking for "resgen.exe" in the "bin" subdirectory beneath the location specified in the InstallationFolder value of the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v7.0A. You may be able to solve the problem by doing one of the following: 1) Install the Microsoft Windows SDK. 2) Install Visual Studio 2010. 3) Manually set the above registry key to the correct location. 4) Pass the correct location into the "ToolPath" parameter of the task. (MSB3091)
So the file is not .exe. Do you have an idea of what I should do? I've ever installed Windows SDK, and I've installed .NET 4.0 because the name of Windows SDK is: Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 4.0.
If you've an idea to do that, it would be great.
Thanks by advance, Automatik (talk) 01:41, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
- @Automatik: - Not sure what you meant by "I've ever installed Windows SDK". GoingBatty (talk) 02:11, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry for my English. I meant: I've installed Windows SDK. Automatik (talk) 08:33, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
- @Automatik: - I had to install .NET 4.5 to get Windows SDK to install (see step #4). GoingBatty (talk) 04:05, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry for my English. I meant: I've installed Windows SDK. Automatik (talk) 08:33, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
Astana
Hi. "istadan" in persian alphabet "ایستادن". Diako1971 10:22, 30 June 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diako1971 (talk • contribs)
- @Diako1971: - I apologize that I reverted your edits to Astana when I reverted another editor's changes that broke the climate table. Thanks for redoing your edit. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 04:02, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
format script
autoFormatter. Magioladitis and TMg have been swapping Regexes between autoFormatter and AWB. There is even a Check Wikipedia page for it because I know you just love working on Check Wikipedia. Bgwhite (talk) 22:10, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
- If I did Check Wikipedia all day, what would you and Magio do? :-) GoingBatty (talk) 02:42, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- Looks good, but please note that according to our MOS, currency denominations have no spaces viz: US$, €, ¥ used as "US$200, €200, ¥200". Regards, -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 08:43, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- Also, I'm concerned about the rule that states "Change the bad German date format 1.1.2000 to 1. Januar 2000." on enwp. GoingBatty (talk) 12:51, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- True, but I seem to have understood that that rule wasn't to be applied, but we should be careful that certain formatting applicable to de.wp should not be blindly copied to en.wp. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 13:09, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- I left a note on TMg's German talk page to visit here. Bgwhite (talk) 20:39, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- It seems it would be better to have this conversation somewhere besides my talk page. Maybe create meta:User talk:TMg/autoFormatter? GoingBatty (talk) 20:46, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- Guys, please. Either use the Meta talk page or simply post your concerns at de:User talk:TMg/autoFormatter (you can write English or German). Please note that my script was originally created for the German Wikipedia. I'm currently changing more and more rules to make them fit the English Wikipedia. This process is not finished. It would be great to get comments from users familiar with the English manual of style. If you want to use my script you should understand what the script does and what you can and should (not) do with it. Maybe I should make this more clear on the Meta page. --TMg 09:21, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
- For the sake of completeness: I changed the date rule. It creates English dates now. The currency rule never was a problem. You know, we write "200 US$" in German and thats what my script fixes. It does not touch "US$200". --TMg 09:54, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
- It seems it would be better to have this conversation somewhere besides my talk page. Maybe create meta:User talk:TMg/autoFormatter? GoingBatty (talk) 20:46, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- I left a note on TMg's German talk page to visit here. Bgwhite (talk) 20:39, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- True, but I seem to have understood that that rule wasn't to be applied, but we should be careful that certain formatting applicable to de.wp should not be blindly copied to en.wp. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 13:09, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- Also, I'm concerned about the rule that states "Change the bad German date format 1.1.2000 to 1. Januar 2000." on enwp. GoingBatty (talk) 12:51, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
New AWB code
Greetings. I wanted to let you know I removed a chunk of code from the WikiProjects cleanup subpage. I don't think anyone was using it and it needs to be rewriting using the much safer RemoveTemplateParameter function. In the spirit of that, I have started building it. You can see the start here: User:KumiokoCleanStart/WikiProjectParametersCleanup. I still have a very very long way to go. As with the WikiProject Banner cleanup I expect this will take me a couple months to complete a little at a time. I am going to start with some of the is missing parameters and then I will build the =no logic. Please feel free to pitch in or offer advice. The code is pretty basic, as you know I don't claim to be the best programmer but it seems to work pretty well so far. Kumioko (talk) 20:15, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Kumioko - it's fine by me. Hope someday this can be incorporated in the standard AWB code, similar to WP:AWB/RTP. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 22:57, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
- Its me again. I still have a long way to go but here is what I have so far. Due to the complication and variance between projects I had to split up the code for each project individually, which is safer I think. I have a start on some logic to eliminate some of the empty parameters which can be expanded by adding more projects and now I need to work on some code for eliminating some parameters if =no. I should have that done this weekend. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or think of anything else you think would be useful. Kumioko (talk) 01:54, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, I got the =no logic started but I still need to figure out how to account for multiple variations (No, no, N and n). I also added logic for removing duplicate parameters. I also merged in the logic at Magioladitis/WikiProject. There is still a lot that can/needs to be done but this is an ok start I think to build on. I will keep developing it as we go. Please let me know if you see anything that needs to be fixed or added. Kumioko (talk) 16:37, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
- Its me again. I still have a long way to go but here is what I have so far. Due to the complication and variance between projects I had to split up the code for each project individually, which is safer I think. I have a start on some logic to eliminate some of the empty parameters which can be expanded by adding more projects and now I need to work on some code for eliminating some parameters if =no. I should have that done this weekend. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or think of anything else you think would be useful. Kumioko (talk) 01:54, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Teamwork Barnstar | |
Thanks for catching and fixing so many of my mistakes, not just lately, but also over the years. Also, thanks for being one of the most positive and helpful Wikipedians I've ever encountered! Cheers! GabeMc (talk|contribs) 01:50, 2 July 2013 (UTC) |
Thanks GabeMc! You're much better at improving the prose and finding the appropriate references. I'm happy that my minor tweaks here and there are helpful. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 22:25, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
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Bot error
Please amend Your bot is making containers that exclude some banners. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:53, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know - I've updated the AWB module at User:Magioladitis/WikiProjects with {{WikiProject Concert Tours}} and will do a run tonight to fix each talk page with this banner. GoingBatty (talk) 11:27, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- I found a similar error with it not including {{maths rating}}, I filed a bug report as I thought it's an issue with AWB rather than your bot. However I got a reply that it couldn't be fixed. Could a similar fix be done to include {{maths rating}} and {{maths banner}} in the talk page general fixes. Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 12:02, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- @Jamesmcmahon0: - it's a similar issue, but a different solution. As Magioladitis pointed out on the AWB bugs page, AWB only includes templates inside {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} if it starts with "WikiProject". Since {{Concert Tours}} redirects to {{WikiProject Concert Tours}}, the solution is to convert the former to the latter and then run AWB's general fixes. However, since the maths templates don't redirect to a template that starts with "WikiProject", I responded on the AWB bugs page with a possible workaround. I won't run this bot task again until I've tested my workaround, hopefully tonight. GoingBatty (talk) 14:21, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- My proposal works - see this diff for an example of the edits I'm making now. GoingBatty (talk) 23:00, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- @Jamesmcmahon0: - I believe I've fixed all of my bot's edits that excluded the maths banners from WPBS, and I'm now running my bot against talk pages with one of the maths banners that do not yet have WPBS. Please let me know if you find any other issues that need to be addressed. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:50, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- Looks good, will that work for anyone using AWB now? If so that's fantastic, if not still great that your bot will clean it up, thanks a lot Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 05:07, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- @Jamesmcmahon0: - Anyone using AWB could choose to set it up the same way I did to make these changes, but AWB still won't automatically suggest that the maths templates should be put inside WPBS. GoingBatty (talk) 11:19, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- Looks good, will that work for anyone using AWB now? If so that's fantastic, if not still great that your bot will clean it up, thanks a lot Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 05:07, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- @Jamesmcmahon0: - I believe I've fixed all of my bot's edits that excluded the maths banners from WPBS, and I'm now running my bot against talk pages with one of the maths banners that do not yet have WPBS. Please let me know if you find any other issues that need to be addressed. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:50, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- My proposal works - see this diff for an example of the edits I'm making now. GoingBatty (talk) 23:00, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- @Jamesmcmahon0: - it's a similar issue, but a different solution. As Magioladitis pointed out on the AWB bugs page, AWB only includes templates inside {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} if it starts with "WikiProject". Since {{Concert Tours}} redirects to {{WikiProject Concert Tours}}, the solution is to convert the former to the latter and then run AWB's general fixes. However, since the maths templates don't redirect to a template that starts with "WikiProject", I responded on the AWB bugs page with a possible workaround. I won't run this bot task again until I've tested my workaround, hopefully tonight. GoingBatty (talk) 14:21, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- I found a similar error with it not including {{maths rating}}, I filed a bug report as I thought it's an issue with AWB rather than your bot. However I got a reply that it couldn't be fixed. Could a similar fix be done to include {{maths rating}} and {{maths banner}} in the talk page general fixes. Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 12:02, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Policy development
You are more than welcome to comment on Ground rules.HotHat (talk) 07:31, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Help with my bot request
Hi, you suggested that my bot could run against Category:Stubs and then skip pages that were in any of the categories that I had suggested. How would I go about doing this? I've looked at some of the AWB documentation and had a bit of a play but I can only get it to check for one category at a time, i.e. it will only work on pages from Category:Living People but not Category:Living People OR Category:Year of death missing OR etc... Is there a way to do this without using Regex as I don't know how to write Regex. Thanks. Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 11:55, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- Looked into it again and maybe Regex isn't so bad, I came up with this;
(\[\[Category:Year of birth missing\]\]|\[\[Category:Year of birth missing (living people)\]\]|\[\[Category:Year of birth unknown\]\]|\[\[Category:Year of birth uncertain|\[\[Category:Year of death missing\]\]|\[\[Category:Year of death unknown\]\]|\[\[Category:Year of death uncertain\]\]|\[\[Category:Living people\]\]|\[\[Category:Possibly living people\]\])
- I should have chance to test it tomorrow but would appreciate your input if there's something obvious! Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 22:35, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- You can easily simplify it by doing this:
\[\[Category:(Year of birth|Year of death|Living people|Possibly living people)
- GoingBatty (talk) 22:46, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- Again, thanks a lot, I'll do some tests later then update my bot requests Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 05:09, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- GoingBatty (talk) 22:46, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
AWB
Thanks again for all your help at the Ringo FAC. I've never ran AWB before and I tend to not be so good at technical stuff computer wise. I'm on Windows 8 now, will it still work and is there an easier way to explain how it works, or is this too tough for a novice like me? GabeMc (talk|contribs) 00:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- You're doing all the hard work at the FAC (and tons of work before the nomination) - I'm just trying to pick off some of the easy stuff. AWB has a ton of options, but you don't have to use them all. Try the four steps at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/User_manual#Basic_procedure, and let me know how it works out. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 00:48, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll try to see if I can figure that out, but in the meantime would you mind running an overlinking check at Jimi Hendrix please. Its at GAN right now and I have several overlinks that I can't find with my eyes. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 01:25, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Done. GoingBatty (talk) 02:04, 24 July 2013 (UTC)- Bummer - not done - we're edit conflicting again. GoingBatty (talk) 02:06, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'll stay away until half past. Hope this isn't too much trouble. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 02:13, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Doing... GoingBatty (talk) 02:24, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Done! GoingBatty (talk) 02:39, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! You've saved me a lot of work so I hope I didn't cause you too much. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 02:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Glad I could be of assistance! GoingBatty (talk) 02:43, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! You've saved me a lot of work so I hope I didn't cause you too much. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 02:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Done! GoingBatty (talk) 02:39, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Doing... GoingBatty (talk) 02:24, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'll stay away until half past. Hope this isn't too much trouble. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 02:13, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Bummer - not done - we're edit conflicting again. GoingBatty (talk) 02:06, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll try to see if I can figure that out, but in the meantime would you mind running an overlinking check at Jimi Hendrix please. Its at GAN right now and I have several overlinks that I can't find with my eyes. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 01:25, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Has anyone ever discussed an overlinking script for the toolbox? GabeMc (talk|contribs) 01:27, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, there's one here. Use with care, though. Note that it is 'all or nothing', and doesn't specifically target repeated links. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 01:34, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Invitation to join a discussion
Through this way, I inform there is a discussion about partially disambiguated titles, known as "PDABs". This subguide of WP:D was approved at VPP, in a discussion you participated. Note there was a discussion of PDAB at WT:D the last weeks (everything is explained in the RFC). You are welcome to give ideas about the future of this guideline at WT:D. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 05:34, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
New checkwiki page
I've been moving Checkwiki from toolserver to WMB labs. Information is located here. Could you take a look and report and bugs you find. Any suggestions, ideas for new bug reports, current bug reports that should be removed or anything else you can think of are needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bgwhite (talk • contribs) 02:18, July 27, 2013
- @Bgwhite: - When I go to this Check Wikipedia page and click one of the edit links, I get a page not found error. GoingBatty (talk) 14:30, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- Grrr. One problem found, 304,483.4 problems to go. Thank you. Bgwhite (talk) 16:52, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- @Bgwhite: - The problem seems to be much bigger than I initially reported. When I go to the Check Wikipedia page for enwiki, click on any priority, click on any description, and then click on any edit link, I get the same page not found error. GoingBatty (talk) 02:35, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- I had to make a change to the database to fix the "same article reported multiple times for the same error". That won't affect anything, but I thought if making one, might as well do it all. I dropped a column that wasn't being used, but it messed up the cgi script, which is what is causing the problems you are seeing. Also made another change to the database to help boost the speed.
- On your original error you found. I've found the problem and have fixed it. It was using assumptions that are no longer valid in perl, by several years. That led to me importing code from the checkwiki script that will help speed things up more. Bgwhite (talk) 05:36, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- @Bgwhite: - The problem seems to be much bigger than I initially reported. When I go to the Check Wikipedia page for enwiki, click on any priority, click on any description, and then click on any edit link, I get the same page not found error. GoingBatty (talk) 02:35, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- Grrr. One problem found, 304,483.4 problems to go. Thank you. Bgwhite (talk) 16:52, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- Things should be working better. The main pages "should" be working fine. I haven't fixed some of the "side" pages yet, such as "list for bots" or "show all done". Bgwhite (talk) 08:27, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- @Bgwhite: - Yes, the edit links are working now. Now that Checkwiki is moving, does AWB need to be modified so that sources CheckWiki error and CheckWiki error (number) work with labs? Keep up the good work! GoingBatty (talk) 14:50, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- CheckWiki error source takes urls as input anyway. CheckWiki error (number) can be updated later. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- @Magioladitis: - Using https://tools.wmflabs.org/checkwiki/cgi-bin/checkwiki.cgi?project=enwiki&view=only&id=5 as the source URL doesn't work. Is it supposed to take the "List for bots", which isn't working? Speaking of that URL, there seems to be a problem preventing it from displaying all 27 articles. Also, you may want to change "0 bis 25" to "0 to 25". GoingBatty (talk) 15:38, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- AWB works with the list for bots and it grabs the first 500 entries. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:00, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- @Magioladitis: Should the number be changed from 500?
- "0 bis 25" to "0 to 25"... What? You don't like the German? "...preventing it from displaying all 27 articles." The problem is the error id... Comment not correct end. A <!-- is displayed in the notice column, but with no closing comment tag, everything goes blank. Same thing goes on error #40, which show
<font>
. Bgwhite (talk) 04:31, 29 July 2013 (UTC)- @Bgwhite: 500 is the maximum number you could grab from the toolserver. I don't know if you could get a greater number in the Labs. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:35, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- AWB works with the list for bots and it grabs the first 500 entries. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:00, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- @Magioladitis: - Using https://tools.wmflabs.org/checkwiki/cgi-bin/checkwiki.cgi?project=enwiki&view=only&id=5 as the source URL doesn't work. Is it supposed to take the "List for bots", which isn't working? Speaking of that URL, there seems to be a problem preventing it from displaying all 27 articles. Also, you may want to change "0 bis 25" to "0 to 25". GoingBatty (talk) 15:38, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- CheckWiki error source takes urls as input anyway. CheckWiki error (number) can be updated later. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- @Bgwhite: - Yes, the edit links are working now. Now that Checkwiki is moving, does AWB need to be modified so that sources CheckWiki error and CheckWiki error (number) work with labs? Keep up the good work! GoingBatty (talk) 14:50, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- Things should be working better. The main pages "should" be working fine. I haven't fixed some of the "side" pages yet, such as "list for bots" or "show all done". Bgwhite (talk) 08:27, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
@Magioladitis: 500 was hard set in the cgi program. It has no function of where it is located. When you click on "List for bots" the limit was 25, I've changed it to 500.
I've gone thru the cgi script and I think I've corrected everything. It's 3am, so my mind is probably playing tricks on me into thinking everything is working.
The issue raised about not all the errors showing up here has to be fixed in the main checkwiki program. I'll have it on my todo list for tomorrow's fun. Bgwhite (talk) 08:56, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Had to make it official
Gold Star for the Day | ||
For strategically using wit and humor to make Wikipedia a better place, GoingBatty is ceremoniously awarded a Gold Star for the day. Thank you for your generous efforts helping Wikipedia. 64.40.54.39 (talk) 04:08, 30 July 2013 (UTC) |
- Thanks! "With all of our running and all of our cunning/If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane" - Jimmy Buffet
- GoingBatty (talk) 13:38, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks
for this edit. I’m always doing that—but I promise I will try not to rely upon you picking up the error in future! Ian Spackman (talk) 16:16, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- You're welcome - glad I could be of assistance. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:17, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Kellie Loder
Hi Batty,
Thank you for editing the Kellie Loder article. Because of your involvement with the article, I thought that you should be notified of the article's FAC. Any comments you would be willing to provide there would be greatly appreciated.
Neelix (talk) 16:14, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Use of Category:American novelists
Recently you added Category:American novelists to the Wikipedia article Greg Kihn. The current consensus for the use of this category is at the top of the Category:American novelists article. I removed the category and added Category:20th-century American novelists after checking the publication date of the novels listed in the article (all 20-century dates). Neonorange (talk) 21:44, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- @Neonorange: - Thanks for correcting my mistake. I've added Kihn's most recent novel and added Category:21st-century American novelists as well. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 01:29, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
- I also added Category:American male novelists. GoingBatty (talk) 01:30, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response and for letting me know your new additions! Neonorange (talk) 02:11, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
- I also added Category:American male novelists. GoingBatty (talk) 01:30, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
MailOnline
Please consult either Christian1985, Bbb23 or Collect before you make ANY changes to the MailOnline page.
Thankyou.
81.178.161.191 (talk) 14:41, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Why? Do you have an issue with my edit? GoingBatty (talk) 14:47, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
The article B.C. Rich Mockingbird has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- A poorly written, poorly sourced article.
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}}
will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 07:52, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not a significant contributor to the article, but don't mind the notice. It appears that the proposed deletion template has been removed from the article. I've made a few more minor changes to the article. GoingBatty (talk) 14:44, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Request
Hi, if you got the time to check out the refs for Leif "Loket" Olsson, as I am no good at combining refs. Much appreciated.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:53, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - Done. Using Reflinks is an easy way to start - just be sure to double check the results before saving them, and do any cleanup afterwards. GoingBatty (talk) 15:15, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your assistans. Yes I will learn that from now on. Thank you. :)--BabbaQ (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- If you could do me one last favour and combine the refs on Meral Tasbas. Much appreciated.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:04, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:32, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- If you could do me one last favour and combine the refs on Meral Tasbas. Much appreciated.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:04, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your assistans. Yes I will learn that from now on. Thank you. :)--BabbaQ (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Leif "Loket" Olsson
On 2 September 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Leif "Loket" Olsson, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Swedish television host Leif "Loket" Olsson refereed the handball semifinal between Yugoslavia and Romania at the 1972 Summer Olympic Games in Munich, Germany? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Leif "Loket" Olsson. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Bots should: "be operated responsibly."
I noticed your bot visited the Brazilian Hip Hop Talk Page. I checked the history of the Brazilian Hip Hop article - you are not listed as an editor.
You have no interest in Brazilian Hip Hop. I put it to you that you are acting like a vigilante scoutmaster. I put it to you that you came to the Brazilian Hip Hop Talk Page because I left details on the murder of Steve Biko. I put it to you that your name GoingBatty was not a lighthearted self-deprecating joke at your expense (as you suggested in the last discussion we had when you were hassling me once again for no reason other then your own misguided belief that you even have that right) but a weapon of insult aimed to bring disrepute to the valid edits and opinions of other editors.
If you keep persisting in arriving at articles that I am writing when their edit history shows you have not shown any interest - I will assume that you doing so deliberately to disrupt my editing or too draw attention to your belief that I am batty or going batty.
Please explain why you have appeared at the Brazilian Hip Hop page under the guise of an automated bot? There are over three million articles. If you carry on appearing on a regular basis at articles I am writing and the edit history of the article and the talk page show no previous involvement from you then I will report you for deliberate activities directed against a user for no legitimate reason other than to impose your presence upon that user. Please direct your attention to one of the three million articles that I'm not involved in. Please stop scout mastering me - I'm not interested.
Sluffs (talk) 23:46, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
- Replied at Talk:Brazilian hip hop. GoingBatty (talk) 00:04, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- The accusations sound a bit paranoid, if you ask me. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 13:43, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Well actually Ohconfucius, no one was asking you but maybe your ego needs something to do other than write good articles.
I would like to see the Bot removed from GoingBatty - I would also like to see him spend 6 to 8 weeks on one article from start to finish (as I do). I would like him to avoid articles I'm working on until I have finished them (I usually add a post-article synopsis to show I've finished and to highlight some of the issues I encountered). I would like GoingBatty to accept that scouting may be his life but due to the similarities between the Scouts and the Klan (both like to creep around the woods at night in uniform while lighting fires and tying knots) it hardly appeals to me and neither therefore does he appeal to me.
Sluffs (talk) 22:18, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Oracle mass edits
Hi! Please pay more attention when doing mass edits, many of the links you added to Oracle Corporation should link to Oracle Database instead. PROTIP: There is no such thing as "Oracle Corporation version 9i" ;) -- intgr [talk] 08:14, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- @Intgr: - Each of those pages I edited had an incorrect link to Oracle, "a person or agency considered to interface wise counsel or prophetic predictions or precognition of the future, inspired by the gods." Guess I needed an oracle to determine if the appropriate correction was Oracle Corporation (the company) or Oracle Database (one of the company's products). Thanks for the heads up! GoingBatty (talk) 13:28, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- @Intgr: - After my first reply, I went back and reviewed each of my "Oracle" edits, and saw that you had already fixed the ones I had done incorrectly. Thanks for your help! GoingBatty (talk) 02:27, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Script-assisted conversion of Retrieved YYYY-MM-DD
This week I reverted your revision of our biography of Frederick Pohl, comprising nothing but about three-score conversions to dmy format, plus insertion of template {{dmy}}. About two-score were Retrieved dates whose conversion was inappropriate per MOS:NUM (which you cited) section 4.
In the edit summary I requested that you limit the script-assisted changes to publication and vital dates. Other activity promptly buried my edit summary, and I have now raised the matter at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Script-assisted conversion of Retrieved YYYY-MM-DD.
--P64 (talk) 16:40, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Replied there - thanks for the heads up. GoingBatty (talk) 02:25, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Meral Tasbas
On 11 September 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Meral Tasbas, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Meral Tasbas (pictured) has participated in both the Swedish and the Turkish versions of the reality show The Bar? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Meral Tasbas. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Help on cite ArXiv
Can you please update this regex to correspond to current sate of {{cite arXiv}}?
new Regex(@"\b(arxiv|asin|ASIN|author\d?|author\d?-?link\d?|bibcode|class|coauthors?|date|day|doi|DOI|doi brokendate|doi inactivedate|eprint|first\d?|format|given\d?|id|in|isbn|ISBN|issn|ISSN|jfm|JFM|jstor|JSTOR|language|last\d?|laydate|laysource|laysummary|lccn|LCCN|month|mr|MR|oclc|OCLC|ol|OL|osti|OSTI|pmc|PMC|pmid|PMID|postscript|publication-date|quote|ref|rfc|RFC|separator|seperator|ssrn|SSRN|surname\d?|title|version|year|zbl)\b", RegexOptions.Compiled);
I can support more citation types but I get the impression there are no differences in the parameters between citation types anymore. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:28, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
- There are a several differences. Amongst other things the cite arxiv templates uses |eprint= instead of |arxiv=, and there is a |class= parameter which is useless for the other type of citations. Likewise, all editors-related parameters, |url, |deadurl, |work=, |publisher=, |location, |volume=, |issue=, |page=, and |pages= are also not found in cite arxiv. There may be other differences too. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 16:20, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
- Headbomb can you please update the regex above? Delete any parameters not needed and add those needed separated by |. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:38, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
- I updated the regex based to Headbomb's instructions. Please tell me if now I am accurate. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:27, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
- Headbomb can you please update the regex above? Delete any parameters not needed and add those needed separated by |. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:38, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
- @Magioladitis: - You may be right about the citation templates based on citation/CS1, such as {{cite web}}, {{cite news}}, {{cite journal}}, {{cite book}}, etc. However, {{cite arXiv}} has a lot of special code in it, which I hope I captured accurately above. If your regex isn't case sensitive, you can remove several of the parameters above. GoingBatty (talk) 20:43, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Exactly because I noticed the special code I added alerts. rev 9483 -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:55, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Help on documentation!
Can you please start a page what will show clever ideas of how to skip specific type of pages in AWB? For instance I would like to have a page that people can see how to skip Disambiguation pages, pages with speedy delete templates, very short pages (less than 100 bytes for instance), etc. using current AWB settings. We get a lot of questions on this and it would be nice to have a page for that. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:50, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- I'll give it a shot. GoingBatty (talk) 15:00, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
One more thing is to take the module given at Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Feature_requests#Title_case_for_citations and put it in an appropriate page, then mark the FR as "no". -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:13, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
September 2013
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If you could take a look at my article for Hildegard Björck for grammar mistakes etc it would be appreciated. Thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 10:14, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: Done! To deorphan the article, you may want to add links from some of the following articles:
- Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 23:47, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
- Oh thank you I will! When you got the time please check out Kristian Gidlund. Thank you again!.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:15, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
downcasing
Jarry's probably very busy, so would you be able to advise me how to adapt and integrate the code into my formatting script? -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 15:17, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry Ohconfucius, but that's beyong my level of technical expertise. GoingBatty (talk) 18:37, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
- OK, never mind. Thanks anyway. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 20:54, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Ahmet Mazhar Bozdoğan
(Volkeey (talk) 11:30, 23 September 2013 (UTC))
I received the following message from you:
Welcome, and thank you for contributing the page Ahmet Mazhar Bozdoğan to Wikipedia. While you have added the page to the English version of Wikipedia, the article is not in English. We invite you to translate it into English. It currently has been listed at Pages Needing Translation, but if it is not translated within two weeks, the article will be listed for deletion. Thank you. GoingBatty (talk) 15:01, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
It was just a mistake, sorry about that; I fixed as follows :
Page in Turkish : https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmet_Mazhar_Bozdo%C4%9Fan Page in English : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmet_Mazhar_Bozdo%C4%9Fan#As_the_President_of_the_Turkish_Swimming_Federation
Please check.
Thanks..
- @Volkeey: - Thanks for translating the Ahmet Mazhar Bozdoğan article. I've made some additional updates to the article (now that I can read it). Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 12:27, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Kristian Gidlund
On 26 September 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kristian Gidlund, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Kristian Gidlund played drums in the rock band Sugarplum Fairy until his death in 2013? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kristian Gidlund. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Gatoclass (talk) 05:48, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Shining Smiling Star!
Hello GoingBatty, Ultra Violet Light has given you a shining smiling star! You see, these things promote WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the Shining Smiling Star whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or someone putting up with some stick at this time. Enjoy! Ultra Violet Light 17:07, 26 September 2013 (UTC) |
Thanks for your recent edits on Stereophonics :D Ultra Violet Light 17:07, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
BattyBot
Hi there, I've noticed BattyBot making a lot of edits to talk pages lately, in which it's collapsing WikiProject banners into {{WikiProjectBannerShell}}. My concern is that the edit summaries for these edits state "Talk page general fixes & other cleanup using AWB (9486)" - this isn't a descriptive (or accurate) summary of the bot's actions on these pages, adding WPBS isn't a "general fix". You might want in the future to have it use a more descriptive edit summary for when it's performing this action. - The Bushranger One ping only 18:39, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
- @The Bushranger: - The edit summaries are "Talk page general fixes & other cleanup". The link takes you to Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/General fixes#Talk page general fixes, which shows that one of the talk page general fixes is that AWB "Adds {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} if 3 or more WikiProject templates are found". While my edit summary is technically correct, I agree it should be more descriptive, so I've changed it to : "Adding {{WikiProjectBannerShell}}, talk page general fixes & other cleanup". Thanks for the suggestion! GoingBatty (talk) 22:54, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks for that link - and it does look much better now, glad to help! - The Bushranger One ping only 22:58, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Motorehad
Hi GoingBatty. FYI, BattyBot is incorrectly changing {{WPMotorhead}} to {{WikiProject Motorehad}}, as in this edit. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 22:35, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
- @DH85868993: - Fixed every talk page that still had the wrong template, every page on Wikipedia:Database reports/Broken WikiProject templates, and the code that my bot uses to make the changes. Thanks for the heads up! GoingBatty (talk) 23:21, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
- No worries. Thanks for fixing all the others! DH85868993 (talk) 10:03, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Kunchacko Boban?
Hey Batty, can you explain this edit? Nikkimaria (talk) 23:11, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
- @Nikkimaria: - I was making some minor fixes to pages on my watchlist such as Hit-Girl (character), while working on WP:AWB on a list of articles such as Kunchacko Boban, and must have done a copy/paste in error. Thanks for catching my mistake! GoingBatty (talk) 23:16, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks so much
for your help at Treasure Island#Film and TV. When I learned that the Soviets had made four movies of the story I became intrigued and when I noticed that one was in 1937, to me the height of Stalinist political correctness, when nothing could be done without a solid Marxist-Leninist foundation I became very interested in how they managed to do that so clicked on the link and . . . ………. And the rest is history. Thanks again for your role in making history. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 17:10, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- My pleasure! GoingBatty (talk) 17:12, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
WP:AWB/T
I've undone this edit, as it was making the software crash (I assume because of the mismatched open and close brackets). I don't know enough about regexes to fix it with confidence, so have undone it altogether for the moment - occurrences of the wrestling team Fourtune should be rare enough that this won't cause any issues. Mogism (talk) 20:42, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Mogism: - Thanks for letting me know - I've readded it with the correct number of parentheses. GoingBatty (talk) 21:16, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. Didn't want to risk deleting the second bracket just in case it was necessary for something. Mogism (talk) 21:18, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Your bot removed a template, but left a 1
Hallo. See this edit, Christian75 (talk) 10:40, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Christian75: - Thanks for letting me know. When someone doesn't use the syntax defined at Template:Multiple issues, my bot may not clean it up properly. I appreciate you fixing the issue. GoingBatty (talk) 19:50, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
When you got time please take a look at my article on Carin Hjulström. Much appreciated! :)--BabbaQ (talk) 14:30, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- I've gone ahead and done it. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 16:34, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - I made some minor edits to it too. GoingBatty (talk) 20:05, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you guys!--BabbaQ (talk) 20:09, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - I made some minor edits to it too. GoingBatty (talk) 20:05, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
bling....bliiiiing
The Element Barnstar | ||
For arduous work to show the incoming wikilinks for Mary Elvira Weeks, writer of Discovery of the Elements |
- Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 00:52, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
October 2013
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- Fixed - Thanks BracketBot! GoingBatty (talk) 15:11, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
a second eye on my regexes
I recently created a rule (within function Ohc_sources_prep
of my sources script) to remove references with twitter and facebook links as follows:
<ref[^\<>]*>[^\<>]*\|[ ]*url ?=https?:\/\/(?:\w{2}\.wikipedia\.org\/wiki|(?:www\.|)(?:facebook|myspace|twitter)\.com)\/[^<>]*<\/ref>
<ref>https?:\/\/(?:en\.wikipedia\.org\/wiki|(?:www\.|)(?:facebook|myspace|twitter)\.com)\/[^\s\]<]*<\/ref>
<ref>\[https?:\/\/(?:en\.wikipedia\.org\/wiki|(?:www\.|)(?:facebook|myspace|twitter)\.com)\/[^\s\]]*[ ]+[\w\d][^\]]*\]<\/ref>
\|[ ]*url[ ]*=[ ]*https?:\/\/(?:\w{2}\.wikipedia\.org\/wiki|(?:www\.|)(?:facebook|myspace|twitter)\.com)[^\s\|\{\}<]*(?=[ ]*[\|\}])
the rules work on my regular regex tester, the individual lines work as custom regexes, but the block didn't work when I run the script on this version of the Jackie Chan page so I put through the changes manually. The rest of the rules that come after these do work, as far as I am aware.
On the other hand, I put the rules into another function here, and I get the desired output for the Jackie Chan in my sandbox. Have you experienced this before? -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 05:50, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Ohconfucius: - Instead of
(?:www\.|)
, should you use(?:www\.)
without the pipe? I'm supportive of removing references to Wikipedia articles (as long as you manually make sure there's a wikilink instead), but I don't know why you'd want to remove references to the social networks in articles such as MineCon. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 01:55, 9 October 2013 (UTC)- I put
(?:www\.|)
in because sometimes the links are formed without the "www.", I inserted the pipe to catch those instances. You'd agree there's no point in having the brackets around(?:www\.)
otherwise.There's too much fancruft and linking to social media. I don't know whether it's prohibited, but I would like to see a blanket ban on linking to these. I have absolutely no problem when sources mention them, but Twitter and Facebook posts are infamously prone to being user-modified, making verification impossible unless an independent source has mentioned the feed in question. Anyway, I was hoping you could share any experience you had on writing scripts, and why the rules don't work in the script when they work independently. Cheers, -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 02:05, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Ohconfucius: - Aha - you're right! Now I see that
(?:www\.|)
works the same as(?:www\.)?
I've never written a script, just played around with AWB's find and replace regexes or modifying other people's scripts. Maybe someone at Wikipedia talk:User scripts could help? GoingBatty (talk) 02:27, 9 October 2013 (UTC)- Thanks anyway. Come to think of it, the problem could be caused by a bug somewhere else in the script. But now that it's so long, it becomes difficult to isolate than if it were a few lines. Strange thing is that the rules that don't work are in the earliest function. I may start breaking the script into smaller modules. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 02:31, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Ohconfucius: - Aha - you're right! Now I see that
- I put
Thanks
...for this. I hate that we can't read that properly, and that this stupid red error message shows up. Drmies (talk) 01:21, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- Glad to help! That was the last error in Category:Pages with URL errors. If we get a backlog again, maybe it's time to go to Help talk:Citation Style 1. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
ImageRequested move is buggy
Unfortunately, my addition to cover Image requested is not correct. It will move the template above WPBS. I commented out this piece of code until the problem is fixed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:16, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Magioladitis: - Thanks for the heads up. Could you please let me know the AWB SVN for that so I can be sure I'm running the commented out code? GoingBatty (talk) 13:07, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- It's rev 9521. I hope me and/or Rjwilmsi will fix soon. Sorting everything about WPBS turned to be easy but not things below it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:25, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- rev 9523 fixes the problem and really enables Image Requested feature. Thanks to User:Rjwilmsi's patience to guide me against my stupidity. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:00, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- It's rev 9521. I hope me and/or Rjwilmsi will fix soon. Sorting everything about WPBS turned to be easy but not things below it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:25, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
More thanks
Thanks for disambiguating my kingpin link from King post. I have however removed your disambig tag from boom, since until someone writes the appropriate article, we can only link to the appropriate section of the disambig page, as I have done (since the disambig page gives a short but useful definition, I believe it is still worth a link, rather than leaving a redlink or nothing at all). Enginear (talk) 18:34, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Enginear: - Thanks for updating the article and for leaving this feedback. As you've seen, there are tools that will report those links to Boom as needing to be fixed. See WP:INTDAB for more information. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:37, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi
I have made a new article about the Enbom case one of Sweden most known spy trials and cases. If you find more info to add to the article for expansion please do as well as any spelling checks etc. Always appreciated.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:28, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - I've made some updates to the article. Could you please add the full details for the Forsberg reference? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:23, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
- I have made an expansion of the article Enbom case. Take a look. And yes I will take care of what you mentioned. Thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:35, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - I did a little more copyediting on the article. The link for Boden should either go to Boden Municipality or Boden, Sweden. What is Embom's first name? The lead says "Fritjof" while the image caption says "Fritiof". Keep up the good work! GoingBatty (talk) 14:01, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your good work!--BabbaQ (talk) 16:40, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - I did a little more copyediting on the article. The link for Boden should either go to Boden Municipality or Boden, Sweden. What is Embom's first name? The lead says "Fritjof" while the image caption says "Fritiof". Keep up the good work! GoingBatty (talk) 14:01, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- I have made an expansion of the article Enbom case. Take a look. And yes I will take care of what you mentioned. Thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:35, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
Help needed
Hi. Your help is needed on the Noelia page. Right now the page is protected from editing and it has the incorrect birthdate. Could you help? Thank you. Lulusi9 (talk) 01:06, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Lulusi9: Sorry - I'm not an administrator, so I can't edit the protected page. GoingBatty (talk) 01:11, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- The page is fully protected, which means the only way to go about making a change is to put an {{editprotect}} template on the talk page with your proposed change and rationale, which in this case should include a link to a reliable source for the correct birthdate. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 01:13, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Hildegard Björck
On 14 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hildegard Björck, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Hildegard Björck (pictured) was the first Swedish woman to complete an academic degree? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hildegard Björck. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Opting in to VisualEditor
As you may know, VisualEditor ("Edit beta") is currently available on the English Wikipedia only for registered editors who choose to enable it. Since you have made 100 or more edits with VisualEditor this year, I want to make sure that you know that you can enable VisualEditor (if you haven't already done so) by going to your preferences and choosing the item, "MediaWiki:Visualeditor-preference-enable
". This will give you the option of using VisualEditor on articles and userpages when you want to, and give you the opportunity to spot changes in the interface and suggest improvements. We value your feedback, whether positive or negative, about using VisualEditor, at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:27, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Whatamidoing (WMF): - Thanks for the message, although I'm surprised that the WMF can't tell that I already have VE enabled. I see that using VE to italicize a wikilink still formats it as
[[foobar|''foobar'']]
instead of''[[foobar]]''
. I also see that one of the five bugs I reported have been fixed. I'll keep trying it now and again, and report if I find anything new. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:31, 11 October 2013 (UTC)- @Whatamidoing (WMF): - Atleast you got to report a bug Batty. I got told my
<nowiki />
bug report would never be fixed. I guess seeing GeorgeWashington ([[George Washington|George]]<nowiki/>Washington) and Chicago ([[Chicago|C]]<nowiki/>hicago) is just fine. I've got 1418 reasons why from October's dump that shows it is a problem with and I've been cleaning these messes the past few months. Bgwhite (talk) 06:17, 12 October 2013 (UTC)- @Bgwhite: - To be fair, I think mine were lower priority than the
<nowiki />
issue: - Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 14:29, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
- That's also part of the reason the WMF won't fix the nowiki problem. Because there are editors who are happy to fix it for them. As long as people are fixing the problems the WMF is creating, then there is no priority to fix it. If people stop fixing those nowiki's and just keep a running tally of the errors, they'll fix it when the problem gets bad enough. Sometimes the best way to fix a problem is to not fix it. 71.126.152.253 (talk) 15:49, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Batty,
- One of the devs probably can tell who has VisualEditor enabled, but I can't, so I manually pulled out the names of people that I'd seen using VisualEditor recently and decided that would have to be good enough for this set of messages. About 140 people received the same message as you, so I figured that the number of false positives would be tolerable. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:07, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Bgwhite: - To be fair, I think mine were lower priority than the
- @Whatamidoing (WMF): - Atleast you got to report a bug Batty. I got told my
I have made a article on Mia Frye unfortunatly I do not understand french that well so I could not translate that much info from her French Wiki article but atleast a small stub has been made now. Take a look when you got time.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:15, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - Looks like Werldwayd did a lot of work, but I a made a few minor edits. You may want to rephrase the lead - there are three sentences in a row that start with "She also...". Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:58, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- Yes I will look at that. Thank you!--BabbaQ (talk) 11:35, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
- If you find any material for expansion of Fäbodristning like 400ch more needed for DYK and then it will go directly to DYK as it forfills all the other requirements. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 11:35, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
- Yes I will look at that. Thank you!--BabbaQ (talk) 11:35, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
A reference problem
Hi! Some users have been working hard on Category:Pages with broken reference names.
In your edits on 2012–13 Southeastern Conference men's basketball season, you added new references reference AndreRoberson and reference SteveNashTrade but didn't define it. Can you take a look and work out what you were trying to do? Thanks --Frze >talk 06:20, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Frze: - I've been working hard on Category:Pages with missing references list. In the article you mentioned, I only added the reflist templates so the notes would be visible. I suggest you contact Trocksuk4415, who added the undefined notes. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 14:17, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry. I thought you added the refs. Please take a look at Wikipedia:Bot requests#New REFBot & User talk:Trocksuk4415#A_reference_problem. --Frze >talk 08:45, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Carin Hjulström
On 20 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Carin Hjulström, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Swedish television presenter Carin Hjulström presented Melodifestivalen 1990? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Carin Hjulström. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Gibside
Hi There,
Could you please check that the formatting is all OK with the page "Gibside"
cheers mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.2.36.6 (talk) 03:34, October 23, 2013
- Done - In the future, please place new text on user talk pages under old text (or create a new section). Also, please sign and date your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 13:33, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
HotCat listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect HotCat. Since you had some involvement with the HotCat redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cathfolant (talk • contribs) 21:54, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've replied there. GoingBatty (talk) 01:57, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Lupton family
Hi again, Thanks for your work. Could you please check the formatting of the references for the 'Lupton family' page Cheers Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.2.36.6 (talk) 01:53, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Mike! It's better now, but feel free to add a citation template (e.g. {{cite web}}) to each reference to make them consistent. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:47, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Plesae fix up the disastrous contribution (just one line!) that I have done on the history section on the GLAMIS CASTLEpage. You are very professional and thanks for all of yor help. cheers mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.10.139 (talk) 03:54, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
- I've edited Glamis Castle, and didn't find your contribution to be disastrous. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 19:42, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Neutral notice
This is a neutral notice that an RfC has been opened at an article which you have edited within the past year. It is at Talk:Clint Eastwood#8 children by 6 women. --Tenebrae (talk) 14:24, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you note
For operating BattyBot who put a bannershell template on Talk:Healthcare.gov. (I was unable to thank the bot through the new notification system) XOttawahitech (talk) 17:14, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
- My pleasure! GoingBatty (talk) 19:44, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Untitled (Mike)
A big thanks for your work - some tiny help please...!! You are an excellent editor
Please could you again check my fromatting on these 4 pages Gibside 5th Earl Orkney Baronets Conyers Blakiston family
Cheers and thsnks so much again Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.10.139 (talk) 11:47, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
- Done for Gibside, Thomas FitzMaurice, 5th Earl of Orkney, Conyers baronets, and Blakiston baronets. Were those the four articles you wanted me to review? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 20:05, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
October 2013
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- Fixed - thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 01:51, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Fritiof Enbom
On 2 November 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fritiof Enbom, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Swedish railway worker Fritiof Enbom was accused and convicted of being a spy for the Soviet Union? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fritiof Enbom. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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Untitled (Mike)
Dear Goingbatty One last reference check please for the Gibside page. Thanks so much Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.138.209 (talk) 10:59, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks again so much "Batty"
2 page for you to check references 1) Lupton family 2) Conyers baronets Thanks again, mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.138.209 (talk) 02:30, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
me again!! Please check that all is ok with 1) 5th earl of Orney page and 2) Sir Chrisitopher Bullock page
You are truly a marvel Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.138.209 (talk) 02:36, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- I made some improvements to Thomas FitzMaurice, 5th Earl of Orkney and Christopher Bullock. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:50, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi there Batty! Thanks so much for your work. Great as always. BUT reference number 27, for Sir Christopher Bullock page should I think be at the end of the FAMILY section. I can't do the cahnge ! Could you please do it? Cheers and thanks Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.138.209 (talk) 03:55, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi Batty again, Could you please check a reference I did to the Pippa Middleton page (Not a good job by me I fear) and I hope that a fix up of Sir Christopher Bullock is OK too.
Cindy Valentine biography
The Barnstar of Diligence | ||
Thank you so much for your time and effort in improving the Cindy Valentine article! 009o9 (talk) 16:32, 11 November 2013 (UTC) |
- My pleasure! GoingBatty (talk) 16:42, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Untitled (Redcpb)
Thank you for simplification GoingBatty :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redcpb (talk • contribs) 20:59, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Dear GoingBatty, what is wrong with article now. Can you please help me fix it. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redcpb (talk • contribs) 21:08, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
- @Redcpb: - It helps to include the article title in your post. :-) Based on your contributions, I'm guessing you're referring to Alireza. I added the {{No footnotes}} template, which states "This article includes a list of references, related reading or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations. Please improve this article by introducing more precise citations." (Check the links for more details.) I just added one for you - feel free to add some more. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 23:20, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you Batty for adding the reference. I am new at this. Bless you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redcpb (talk • contribs) 04:32, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Untitled (Mike)
Dear Batty I am a history teacher and I STILL cannot do this! please check references for
Gibside page and Family of Duchess of Cambridge page Thanks as always Mike Reed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.138.209 (talk) 09:20, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Mike! I've updated both pages. Here's how I use the {{cite web}} parameters:
- The
|last=
and|first=
parameters are for the author's name (a person, not an organization) - The
|url=
parameter is for the web page address (e.g. http://www.whatever.com) - The
|title=
parameter is for the web page title - The
|work=
parameter is for magazine or newspaper names, while the|publisher=
parameter is used for other sources (e.g. Durham County Council) - The
|date=
or|year=
is for when the information was published - The
|accessdate=
parameter is for when you read the information.
- The
- Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 02:51, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Dear Batty another check please! Lupton family - reference Cheers and thanks Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.213.7.30 (talk) 03:56, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
SORRY!!!! Mike again - I did try as you suggested to do it myself - but with a magazine it is hard! Please can you tidy up the references to the "Lupton family" page . The author of the Majesty magazine article was Coryne Hall. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.138.209 (talk) 09:12, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- Done. Note that
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is for the English title of the web page or newspaper article. GoingBatty (talk) 00:00, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your keen eye and Wikipedia savvy. FYI, the title of my copy of WAR WITH THE WIND appears to be all upper case. Now, sorting by author’s name: how do you do it when names are not alphabetical – such as Mahan. And what is the best way to do it when adding citations to an article with few or no references?
Obviously, I’m very grateful for your first-rate efforts. But tell me, if you care to, how did Mahan ever get on your radar?
BTW, the article is listed on the Guild of Copy Editor’s request page for copyedit. My notion is to remove it - would you care to offer an opinion? Pendright (talk) 19:54, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- Pendright (talk · contribs) I was visiting the articles listed on the GOCE page when I stumbled across USS Mahan (DD-364). It doesn't hurt to leave it there - hopefully someone will offer to work on it. I'm not good at copyediting, but can fix formatting. Although it's common for titles on book covers to be all in UPPER CASE, Wikipedia's Manual of Style recommends Title Case. When alphabetizing by author's last name, if a reference didn't have an author I'd categorize by the publisher instead.
- Thank you! Pendright (talk) 02:24, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Regina Lund
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Fucking Machines thanks
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DVD article edit revert
Just curious, why exactly did you revert my edit to the DVD article (splitting "Atlanta, Georgia" into two separate links)? Bumm13 (talk) 19:09, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
- @Bumm13: - I believe that "Atlanta" and "Georgia" as two separate links on the DVD article is overlinking, as I don't think many people are going to be on the DVD article and decide they want to learn more about the state, but not the city. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 21:43, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Amusing
Hey, I don't find much Wikipedia amusement nowadays, but when I saw this history it made me smile, as my handle is based on Roy Batty. - RoyBoy 17:29, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
- @RoyBoy: Glad you got a chuckle out of my bot's name, but it's based on Batman instead. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:07, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Main article
I fixed some of them manually. There are many that not qualify for fixing. Please fix any others on sight. At some point we can create an updated list. In any case I think the cases that need standardising are uncommon. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:04, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- @Magioladitis: - Thanks for looking in to this. I've stumbled across several articles with multiple {{main}} templates that AWB is now combining, so thank you for adding that feature! GoingBatty (talk) 13:46, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Disambiguation link fixing one-day contest
I have decided to put on a mini-contest within the November 2013 monthly disambiguation contest, on Saturday, November 23 (UTC). I will personally give a $20 Amazon.com gift card to the disambiguator who fixes the most links on that server-day (see the project page for details on scoring points). Since we are not geared up to do an automated count for that day, at 00:00, 23 November 2013 (UTC) (which is 7:00 PM on November 22, EST), I'll take a screenshot of the project page leaderboard. I will presume that anyone who is not already listed on the leaderboard has precisely nine edits. At 01:00, 24 November 2013 (UTC) (8:00 PM on November 23, EST), I'll take a screenshot of the leaderboard at that time (the extra hour is to give the board time to update), and I will determine from that who our winner is. I will credit links fixed by turning a WP:DABCONCEPT page into an article, but you'll have to let me know me that you did so. Here's to a fun contest. Note that according to the Daily Disambig, we currently have under 256,000 disambiguation links to be fixed. If everyone in the disambiguation link fixers category were to fix 500 links, we would have them all done - so aim high! Cheers! bd2412 T 02:25, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- Congratulations, you have clearly and handily won the one-day contest, with a total of 673 disambiguation fixes! Email me to work out the details of collecting your prize (or, if you prefer, I will make a donation to the WMF in that amount, on your behalf). Cheers! bd2412 T 03:11, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- @BD2412: - Thanks for organizing the contest - it was a fun way to spend the day. In the spirit of the upcoming season, would you be willing to make the donation to Toys for Tots? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:14, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- Absolutely, I will do that now - I appreciate your generosity of spirit. Cheers! bd2412 T 03:22, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- Done. Toys for Tots now has $20 more thanks to your heroic editing efforts. I saved a screenshot of the thank-you note, but I am a bit dubious about whether it would constitute a copyright violation to post it to Wikipedia. I'll be glad to send it to you if you need it for any reason. Cheers, and thanks again for your excellent work! bd2412 T 03:33, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thank YOU for the contest and for the donation! GoingBatty (talk) 13:47, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- Done. Toys for Tots now has $20 more thanks to your heroic editing efforts. I saved a screenshot of the thank-you note, but I am a bit dubious about whether it would constitute a copyright violation to post it to Wikipedia. I'll be glad to send it to you if you need it for any reason. Cheers, and thanks again for your excellent work! bd2412 T 03:33, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- Absolutely, I will do that now - I appreciate your generosity of spirit. Cheers! bd2412 T 03:22, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- @BD2412: - Thanks for organizing the contest - it was a fun way to spend the day. In the spirit of the upcoming season, would you be willing to make the donation to Toys for Tots? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:14, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
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3rd Artois Comment
Thanks for unbungling the mistakes I made, I couldn't find out how to get rid of the red warning. I would have preferred you to have left the notes section though but I'll put it back when I get round to the narrative. Thanks.Keith-264 (talk) 15:00, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
- @Keith-264: - In Third Battle of Artois, I've readded the Notes section for you but commented it out so there isn't a visible empty section. Once you add some notes, please remove the comment tags. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:11, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
- Oh thanks very much! I'll remember to use that format next time.Keith-264 (talk) 15:26, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
November 2013 GA Thanks
This user has contributed to Man of Steel (film) good articles on Wikipedia. |
On behalf of WP:CHICAGO, I thank you for your editorial contributions to Man of Steel (film), which recently was promoted to WP:GA.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:51, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thank YOU - glad my minor contributions here and there helped the process! GoingBatty (talk) 19:19, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
What hath GB wrought?
Not sure what kind of help you need at B&O Railroad Museum. What hath God wrought? is the original American telegraph message, sent from Capitol Hill, DC to Baltimore. The Book of Numbers is likely the right place in the Bible. Samuel F.B. Morse should have some stuff on it as does Henry Leavitt Ellsworth. Any more specific questions I can probably find out, but it could take some time. Smallbones(smalltalk) 03:05, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
- @Smallbones: - So should the B&O article link to the Book of numbers article or the article on the first telegraph message? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:09, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think there is an article on the first telegraph message, and looking at Electric telegraph, no agreement on when that was. Linking to The Book of Numbers is likely not worthwhile, as the question appears to be an odd scrap ripped out at random from the whole, certainly not a main theme. I had thought, a long time ago I had linked to an online Bible for an odd verse (perhaps this one), but that is likely discouraged now. The benefit is that people can see what the whole chapter and book is about. On second thought it was about jawboning. So in short, I don't know. Smallbones(smalltalk) 03:23, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
What hath God wrought should not be a disambiguation page in the first place. The clear primary topic is the Bible verse, to which all other uses are merely references. Note that the only other actual title using the phrase is for a book of comparatively little note.bd2412 T 03:43, 26 November 2013 (UTC)- Scratch that. The article on the book of the Bible doesn't even describe its meaning. Perhaps an entry for the phrase should be added to Wiktionary, and links directed there. bd2412 T 03:46, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
- @Smallbones:, @BD2412: - I suggest we change the text in B&O Railroad Museum to "It was also to this site that the first telegraph message was sent on May 24, 1844, to officially open the Baltimore-Washington telegraph line." (and retain the two references). It seems that the text of the first message is too much detail for the lead of B&O Railroad Museum, and the Baltimore-Washington telegraph line article contains an explanation that the first message, "What hath God wrought!", is a phrase from the Bible's Book of Numbers. What do you think? GoingBatty (talk) 14:12, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
- If it comes up again, I have created wikt:what hath God wrought. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:18, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
- @BD2412: - I was going to add {{wikt}} to What hath God wrought, but it appears that wikt:what hath God wrought has been nominated for deletion. GoingBatty (talk) 01:01, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
- It just needed some tweaking. It will pass, at this point. bd2412 T 02:14, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
- Great - I've now added {{wikt}} to What hath God wrought. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:35, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
- It just needed some tweaking. It will pass, at this point. bd2412 T 02:14, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
- @BD2412: - I was going to add {{wikt}} to What hath God wrought, but it appears that wikt:what hath God wrought has been nominated for deletion. GoingBatty (talk) 01:01, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
- If it comes up again, I have created wikt:what hath God wrought. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:18, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
- @Smallbones:, @BD2412: - I suggest we change the text in B&O Railroad Museum to "It was also to this site that the first telegraph message was sent on May 24, 1844, to officially open the Baltimore-Washington telegraph line." (and retain the two references). It seems that the text of the first message is too much detail for the lead of B&O Railroad Museum, and the Baltimore-Washington telegraph line article contains an explanation that the first message, "What hath God wrought!", is a phrase from the Bible's Book of Numbers. What do you think? GoingBatty (talk) 14:12, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think there is an article on the first telegraph message, and looking at Electric telegraph, no agreement on when that was. Linking to The Book of Numbers is likely not worthwhile, as the question appears to be an odd scrap ripped out at random from the whole, certainly not a main theme. I had thought, a long time ago I had linked to an online Bible for an odd verse (perhaps this one), but that is likely discouraged now. The benefit is that people can see what the whole chapter and book is about. On second thought it was about jawboning. So in short, I don't know. Smallbones(smalltalk) 03:23, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi. You moved the article at Temples to Temples (band) to keep Temples re-directing to Temple. I therefore placed text on the top of the Temple article for the band Temples, otherwise it is hard to find the article on the band Temples = several editors have removed it. Please ensure this text in kept at the top of the article on Temple or make Temples a disambiguous page. There isn't any proper reason for Temples to re-direct to Temple, as any prior wiki-links to Temples should be corrected to go to the right article. Thanks.
92.8.23.188 (talk) 00:09, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with adding text at the top of Temple, although I changed it to use {{redirect}}. The reason for Temples to redirect to Temple is that there are hundreds of articles that use "temples", expecting to link to an article about temples instead of the band. Even if we were to change all the links to [[temple]]s, it's likely that more links will be added. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:19, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
Untitled (Mike)
Dear Batty I know you thought I'd learnt my stuff - but can you assist one more time? Please!!! The "Conyers Baronets" page - a couple of references . THanks so much yet again Cheers M.E (Ted) Reed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.149.168.121 (talk) 11:48, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
Dear Batty
You will see I tried to enlist another helper - no good! - I do need you to do the latest reference for Conyers Baronets page please!!
Thanks again
Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.149.168.121 (talk) 09:32, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- Hi there Mike, if you need anything else you can ask me (I'm not sure if Batty's online at the moment). I'm not sure if you were referring to me as 'no good' (don't worry I'm not offended :). What could I do to help you out? Newyorkadam (talk) 09:50, 30 November 2013 (UTC)Newyorkadam
- Mike - I'll take a look at Conyers Baronets tomorrow. @Newyorkadam: - Feel free to fix reference 5 if you can get to it first. GoingBatty (talk) 22:07, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- Done - GoingBatty (talk) 03:49, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- Mike - I'll take a look at Conyers Baronets tomorrow. @Newyorkadam: - Feel free to fix reference 5 if you can get to it first. GoingBatty (talk) 22:07, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
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- Fixed - Thanks BracketBot! GoingBatty (talk) 03:36, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
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I'm logged in to my account on a Southwest Airlines flight on my Kindle Fire and getting an error stating " Editing from 184.169.0.0/16 has been blocked (disabled) by WilliamH for the following reason(s): Long term abuse: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Morning277". Since User:WilliamH has retired, can this please be revisited? I don't understand why registered users would be impacted by this block. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 14:43, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
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You were caught in a range block. I granted you IP block exemption right, so, you would be able to edit again. Meno25 (talk) 18:03, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Reordering refs with AWB
I've seen this happening with AWB, but I just ran it on an article in my user space that I plan on moving shortly, and it just doesn't happen. Any idea why? And can you help me otherwise once you're unblocked...? Regards, -- Ohc ¡digame! 14:57, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Ohconfucius: - Not sure why it's not working for you - maybe it only works in articlespace? I'm travelling without my AWB PC (and already starting to go into withdrawal), so you might want to ask at the AWB talk page. I did notice that you have bacon to back ref 11s in the Design section. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 15:06, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- That was it. I moved it and ran AWB, and all the refs are now re-ordered. :-) All except ref #2 and ref #1 now reversed throughout. :-( -- Ohc ¡digame! 15:30, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Ohconfucius: - Also not sure why you're italicizing the product name. GoingBatty (talk) 15:13, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- My mate Tony suggested it. And I've seen it in some WP articles, but not in hi-fi mags. There's nothing against it in the MOS, otherwise Tony wouldn't have suggested it and I think it's kinda nice. As I'm writing about iconic hi-fi, it's as if these were works of art. ;-) -- Ohc ¡digame! 15:30, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Ohconfucius: - It appears to me that Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles#Neither indicates that commercial products should not have italics or quotation marks. GoingBatty (talk) 05:03, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- Oh boo. I missed that. I won't do it for the next ones I work on, but I'll leave those as it's too much effort to remove the italics. We'll see of someone else can be bothered removing them. -- Ohc ¡digame! 05:35, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- Changed my mind. Now sorted, I think. -- Ohc ¡digame! 06:45, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Ohconfucius: - It appears to me that Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles#Neither indicates that commercial products should not have italics or quotation marks. GoingBatty (talk) 05:03, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
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Why, why did you do this Meno25? I finally found a way to block that evil and dastardly Batty without bringing attention to myself. The reign of terror will now continue unabated. Oh Batty, I just took a hit of AWB and it was gooood. Nothing like some AWB coursing thru the veins and giving you that perfect high. I hope you survive without your crack AWB. Bgwhite (talk) 21:55, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Meno25: - Thank you very much! I look forward to a better trip home.
- @Bgwhite: - How come Wikipedia doesn't have a list of AWB Anonymous chapters? GoingBatty (talk) 04:56, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- Possibly because WP users are "anonymous" by definition? ;-) -- Ohc ¡digame! 06:47, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- Ohconfucius, that is the best answer I've seen in a long time. Bgwhite (talk) 19:38, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- Possibly because WP users are "anonymous" by definition? ;-) -- Ohc ¡digame! 06:47, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Question
Hello GoingBatty, I was just wondering, what was the purpose of removing "http:" from a Youtube URL here? Thanks, Toccata quarta (talk) 06:21, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
- @Toccata quarta: - It's now a protocol-relative link - users at the secure https://en.wikipedia.org will link to the secure https://www.youtube.org, and users at http://en.wikipedia.org will link to http://www.youtube.org. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 21:36, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
- So if I want to have a protocol relative link, I just use [7] ...no protocol whatsoever? Yuck.... presumably the double-slash was kept as a kludge? Do you know the dev here, or a pointer to the helpdocs that would in turn point me to the dev? Gracias. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 01:25, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
CAVA
Hi GoingBatty,
I had a student (TravellingKatie) update the CAVA page for a volcanology class I run, which you reverted (taking it back to a stub) and I wondered what your rationale was? I thought her edits improved the page but I'd be interested (in the spirit of inquiry only) as to why you felt they should be removed. I am leading someone else's class (he does this every year) so I am wondering what lessons I can feed back to him?
Thanks for any advice,
Matt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.222.114.247 (talk) 15:10, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Matt! Sorry for not mentioning the issues in User:Katietraveller's edit to the Central America Volcanic Arc article in my edit summary. Here are the major issues in these edits:
- Her edits removed the images, the {{Central American volcanoes}} navbox, the {{coord}} template, and the categories.
- Her attempt to add an image from an external web site was not correct.
- There is no lead section (removing the "Overview" section header would be a good start)
- She has the references listed twice, and still has a big red Cite error at the bottom of the page (which is what caused me to visit the page.
- She added "Lorem ipsum. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet.", and those references might be causing the Cite error.
- Instead of making such a drastic change, you may want to suggest to her that she makes smaller edits and checks her work. If she has any issues while updating the page, she can ask for help at the article talk page. I'll keep an eye on the page in case she wants to try again. Thanks for asking! GoingBatty (talk) 00:41, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Stekenjokk
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Untitled (BabbaQ)
- I have made an article on The Fooo. Take a look when you got time. Regards.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:14, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - Done GoingBatty (talk) 00:19, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- Not that I think much is needed to be done but I always appreciate your work so take a look at Regina Lund and Valter Skarsgårds articles. Much appreciated.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:41, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - Done! Could you please look at the second paragraph in Regina Lund#Theater and musical work? It appears that some of it duplicates the first paragraph, but there may be some additional information that should be translated into English. Could you also please translate the comment in Regina Lund#Albums? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:12, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for checking it out. Yes I will take a look at those issues. Thank you again!--BabbaQ (talk) 19:22, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- Take a look at Nour El-Refai article that I created today. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:59, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - Done! GoingBatty (talk) 23:49, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Take a look at Nour El-Refai article that I created today. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:59, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for checking it out. Yes I will take a look at those issues. Thank you again!--BabbaQ (talk) 19:22, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - Done! Could you please look at the second paragraph in Regina Lund#Theater and musical work? It appears that some of it duplicates the first paragraph, but there may be some additional information that should be translated into English. Could you also please translate the comment in Regina Lund#Albums? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:12, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- Not that I think much is needed to be done but I always appreciate your work so take a look at Regina Lund and Valter Skarsgårds articles. Much appreciated.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:41, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- Made an article about Barna Hedenhös. Take a look when you get time.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:28, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - Done for now - would you like to add citation templates for the references? GoingBatty (talk) 14:43, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - I see that citation templates were added via Reflinks, which frequently makes suggestions that don't appear properly in the article. I'll look at this later this week. GoingBatty (talk) 06:13, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - Done! GoingBatty (talk) 17:59, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - I see that citation templates were added via Reflinks, which frequently makes suggestions that don't appear properly in the article. I'll look at this later this week. GoingBatty (talk) 06:13, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: - Done for now - would you like to add citation templates for the references? GoingBatty (talk) 14:43, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi (Nov 2013)
Could you take a look at Stekenjokk, Vildmarksvägen and Stora Blåsjön. Much appreciated!--BabbaQ (talk) 19:05, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: Done. Could you please check Vildmarksvägen - I understand it could be too cold for gnats, but not too could for knots. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 21:57, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
- OK thank you I will! I have made an article on the McStay family murder. Take a look,--BabbaQ (talk) 20:43, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: I've updated that article too. Note that I removed Category:2013 murders in the United States because the article doesn't state whether they were murdered in 2013 or earlier. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 21:13, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- I have created an article about Musikhjälpen. A nice annual event.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:02, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: Done! GoingBatty (talk) 18:20, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- I have created an article about Rebecca Simonsson. Take a look! Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 22:44, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: I did some copyediting, added categories, and added italics per WP:ITALICS. Looks like she is showing off a tattoo on her back - would information on the tattoo be notable enough to add? Would you like to try running Reflinks to add citation templates? If so, please review the suggestions and make manual changes before saving. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 23:17, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
- I have created an article about Rebecca Simonsson. Take a look! Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 22:44, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: Done! GoingBatty (talk) 18:20, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- I have created an article about Musikhjälpen. A nice annual event.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:02, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: I've updated that article too. Note that I removed Category:2013 murders in the United States because the article doesn't state whether they were murdered in 2013 or earlier. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 21:13, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- OK thank you I will! I have made an article on the McStay family murder. Take a look,--BabbaQ (talk) 20:43, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Fixing citation "errors" outside article space
This edit made me think it's not a good idea to attempt citation fixes outside article space. Non-article pages are much more likely to contain experiments or intentional examples of what not to do. Jc3s5h (talk) 02:28, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Jc3s5h: - I would agree that it's not appropriate to make unsupervised bot edits outside article space. I reviewed this edit before making it. Could you please help me understand what was incorrect about this particular edit? I see you haven't reverted it. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:32, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
- The edit was correct; I got the impression it had been made with a bot, which was my only concern. Jc3s5h (talk) 03:35, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
1 (2014 film)
Hello,
I am Extremely Sorry :( because while reverting some Intermediate Test edits by New users your versions were also Reverted. Please re use AWB. I hope you can understand why would i do like that. In Future i didn't do Such things.
Regards,
Raghusri (talk) 12:06, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Raghusri: No worries - sometimes the best way to clean up an article is go back to the last clean versions and then redo some edits. I'm all done now. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:30, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you So much for Undertanding Me :)
Regards,
Raghusri (talk) 10:08, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Vildmarksvägen
On 19 December 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Vildmarksvägen, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Hällingsåfallet, a waterfall along the Vildmarksvägen route (pictured), has been described as "Sweden's answer to Niagara Falls"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Vildmarksvägen. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Harrias talk 13:47, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Stora Blåsjön
On 20 December 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Stora Blåsjön, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the town of Stora Blåsjön, Sweden, has a moose farm featuring a pair of moose named Hilda and Herbert? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Stora Blåsjön. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Harrias talk 01:33, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Bot
Hey, sorry about the date format, i forgot to change it during the revert... My bad, i just reverted because he made an extra "line" after every group if you know what i mean? Kante4 (talk) 16:47, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Replied at your talk page. GoingBatty (talk) 16:55, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks. Kante4 (talk) 17:14, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Non-breaking spaces
Per WP:NBSP, non-breaking spaces should be added if displacement would make elements awkward. For example, "December
20, 2013" would look awkward without use of a non-breaking space. The bot is removing these instances, and I do not think it should. Thanks, Erik (talk | contribs) 14:09, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Erik: - Pages that have citations that use non-breaking spaces are included in Category:CS1 errors: dates. Since these citations will eventually display a big red Check date values in:
|date=
message, the bot is cleaning them up before the error is enabled. You may want to discuss at Help talk:Citation Style 1#nsbp allowed in dates?. GoingBatty (talk) 14:25, 20 December 2013 (UTC)- Thanks for the link to the discussion! :) Erik (talk | contribs) 14:36, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- I rolled back my reverts. Dang, I thought I was doing a good thing here! Could you run the script on Walking with Dinosaurs (film)? Erik (talk | contribs) 17:45, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Erik: - Thanks for contributing to the conversation there, as the explanation you received was more detailed than I've seen anywhere else. I've run the script on Walking with Dinosaurs (film), as you requested. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:31, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
Blink Bonny
The edit changed the infobox from "thoroughbred racechorse" to "sport horse" which is incorrect, so I reverted. Tigerboy1966 17:11, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
- can you please stop your bot from doing this. Tigerboy1966 17:22, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Tigerboy1966: You're right, of course! I've updated Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Template redirects#Infobox templates and redid the edit correctly. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:23, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Tigerboy1966: - I see you reverted a similiar incorrect edit on Amounis. I also found that I made the same mistake on Blackstairmountain, which I reverted. I then reran the bot on these articles, and confirmed the edits were correct. I'll check the other articles that contain Template:Infobox sport horse to see if anyone else made a similar mistake and fix those too. Thanks again! GoingBatty (talk) 17:32, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
- No problem. Tigerboy1966 17:35, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Tigerboy1966: - I see you reverted a similiar incorrect edit on Amounis. I also found that I made the same mistake on Blackstairmountain, which I reverted. I then reran the bot on these articles, and confirmed the edits were correct. I'll check the other articles that contain Template:Infobox sport horse to see if anyone else made a similar mistake and fix those too. Thanks again! GoingBatty (talk) 17:32, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Tigerboy1966: You're right, of course! I've updated Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Template redirects#Infobox templates and redid the edit correctly. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:23, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
BattyBot
Hello GoingBatty. Do you know why BattyBot moved the geo-stub template to the bottom of the page in this edit? In the previous edit I had added a new navbox template to the article and decided it looked best if the geo-stub's screen message ("This ... location article is a stub") was above the coloured bar of the new template, rather than below (where in my view it looks odd, and sort of isolated between 2 screen-width bars). But BattyBot has reversed this. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 19:11, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
- @PaleCloudedWhite: One of AWB's general fixes is that it "puts categories after page body, followed by stub templates and interwiki links per WP:FOOTER." Thanks for asking! GoingBatty (talk) 19:14, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick reply. I thought it might be an MOS guideline. Perhaps I'm the only one who thinks it looks a bit inelegant not having the navbox header at the bottom of the page. I suppose I'll have to get used to it. But why did the bot introduce 2 lines of space before the geo-stub template? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 19:24, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
- @PaleCloudedWhite: In the same portion of AWB's general fixes, it states that it "puts two blank lines before stubs per Wikipedia:IDEALSTUB." GoingBatty (talk) 19:32, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick reply. I thought it might be an MOS guideline. Perhaps I'm the only one who thinks it looks a bit inelegant not having the navbox header at the bottom of the page. I suppose I'll have to get used to it. But why did the bot introduce 2 lines of space before the geo-stub template? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 19:24, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Barna Hedenhös
On 23 December 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Barna Hedenhös, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Bonnier Carlsen temporarily halted its re-release of one of the Barna Hedenhös Swedish children's books because the 1950 publication refers to Native Americans as "red skins"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Barna Hedenhös. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Multiple issues
- Did you get the chance to search for pages with more than 1 Multiple issues?
- Maybe you know how many pages still use the old MI style? I we get rid of them the AWB code will be simplified significantly and I guess the rendering time of pages too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:40, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- I haven't checked how many pages use two multiple issues, but I can preparse a list in a few days.
- I think we should ask at the Multiple issues talk page to see if someone would put a tracking category in the template to find those with the old style, and then fix them all. GoingBatty (talk) 12:17, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe Frietjes can help us on the latter. Any {{Multiple issues}} using names parameters is a candidate for fixing. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:25, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
I'll need your settings to convert MI to move orphan tags. It won't be easy to move orphan tags when I have to deal with both stand-alone tags and MI parameters. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:07, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Review
Will you give me some time to take a look at User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox4? If it is good then move it to Slow West please. --Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 17:46, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Captain Assassin!: Done GoingBatty (talk) 17:54, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- Good, thanks. Actually I've to get articles review first otherwise I would have done it. --Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 18:04, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Untitled
Dear Batty Me again! Merry Christmas! Please can you check that I have "got it right" for-
1) Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale 2) Thomas Lyons-Bowes Lord Glamis (I had alot of trouble with this one - it is from a book)
Cheers and I thankyou in advance, as always. Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.173.171 (talk) 08:18, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- Done for Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale and Thomas Lyon-Bowes, Lord Glamis. The
|url=
parameter is for the web site address (i.e. http://www...) and the|title=
is for the name of the book or web page. GoingBatty (talk) 18:09, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Months abbreviations
I wonder if month abbreviations are allowed (Apr, Mar, etc.). -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:11, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Magioladitis: They are allowed in references per MOS:DATEFORMAT. GoingBatty (talk) 13:30, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
Some thoughts on orphans
I still have 50,000 pages to check and I do this semi-manually as follows: Enabled only tagging, no genfixes, no unicode. Skip if no changes are made. In worst case scenario I add/remove underlinked which is also not bad.
If I knew for |few=
before we could add it to orphan tags with 1 or 2 incoming link and get an idea of exactly how many pages are linkless. but this wouls also require conversion inside Multiple issues. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:34, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Magioladitis: You could also choose to skip if no autotagging. Those settings are fine since you're manually checking, but for a bot approved to deorphan I don't want the only changes to be adding unrelated tags. GoingBatty (talk) 19:39, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Magioladitis: I found that if I change the bot to skip if "orphan\b" is found, it will then remove {{orphan}} tags even when the text contains text such as "orphanage". GoingBatty (talk) 20:03, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- I completed my fixes on orphans. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:40, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
- Great - you fixed a bunch! I changed my skip to "orphan\s*[\|=]", so it will then remove {{orphan}} tags even when the text contains "orphan". GoingBatty (talk) 05:36, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- I completed my fixes on orphans. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:40, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Magioladitis: I found that if I change the bot to skip if "orphan\b" is found, it will then remove {{orphan}} tags even when the text contains text such as "orphanage". GoingBatty (talk) 20:03, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Happy holidays and Merry Christmas :)
Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!
Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
--Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 17:26, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you - same to you! GoingBatty (talk) 02:40, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry to interrupt you during holidays, review User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox5 and move it to The Interview (2014 film) - only when you feel comfy and available, thanks. Enjoy holidays. --Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 14:39, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Captain Assassin!: No need to apologize, I'm happy to help! After moving the article, I made some edits including fixing the references and changed the date format to month before day per MOS:DATEUNIFY and WP:STRONGNAT. I also added a hatnote to The Interview. Enjoy the holidays! GoingBatty (talk) 17:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks GoingBatty :). --Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 17:34, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Captain Assassin!: No need to apologize, I'm happy to help! After moving the article, I made some edits including fixing the references and changed the date format to month before day per MOS:DATEUNIFY and WP:STRONGNAT. I also added a hatnote to The Interview. Enjoy the holidays! GoingBatty (talk) 17:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry to interrupt you during holidays, review User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox5 and move it to The Interview (2014 film) - only when you feel comfy and available, thanks. Enjoy holidays. --Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 14:39, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi (Dec 2013)
Take a look at my new articles Cecilia Uddén and Emma Knyckare! Cheers.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:20, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hello BabbaQ, the main issue to both articles, they have bare urls so please add full citations. Remove the red links and Swedish is a disamb, so fix it too in Emma Knyckare. Otherwise both articles look good. --Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 15:30, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- Well, i always appreciated GoingBattys co-operation ;) Merry christmas.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:36, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, he is a helpful person :). --Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 17:15, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you both (blush). @BabbaQ: I'll help you with these tomorrow, and I'm happy to continue helping you. However, I'd like to spend more time to teach you how to do some of these things yourself. GoingBatty (talk) 17:24, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- Cheers. It is just that I believe that even if I had been able to do a perfect article I would have probably asked for other users opinions about it anyway. Input is always worth alot. So that an article doesnt become one-sided. --BabbaQ (talk) 17:26, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: The first thing I did was to add categories for the person's nationality/profession and the person's place of origin in this edit. HotCat is a good tool to use for this, as it ensures you don't add a category that doesn't exist, and allows you to drill down to more specific categories. Another category that's good to add is for their alma mater, as I did in this edit.
- I see someone has run Reflinks on Cecilia Uddén. It's a good tool, but frequently needs people to clean up after its suggestions. For example, when the name of the web site is in both the title and work/publisher parameters, I remove the web site name from the title like this edit. Another thing Reflinks does is suggests
|language={{sv icon}}
, which incorrectly displays as(in (in Swedish))
. You can correct this to|language=Swedish
or simply|language=sv
, as I did in this edit. I also fixed the italics/punctuation and removed a duplicate wikilink in this edit. - Per WP:GOODREFS, we should not use another Wikipedia article as a reference, so I removed a reference in this edit. (If sv:Vilhelm Moberg-stipendiet had a relevant reference to a reliable source, I would have copied that reference to the Cecilia Uddén article.) You may want to look for other sources to use instead.
- The other issue that should be resolved is that the citations do not follow a consistent style. While I prefer to use the citation templates, WP:CITEVAR states we should defer to the first major contributor, which is you. Which would you like to use?
- Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 16:28, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- @BabbaQ: So now on to Emma Knyckare. In this edit, I removed "Emma" per WP:SURNAME, and chose a consistent format for the English translations. In addition to the Reflinks cleanup I mentioned above, I also simplified/removed author parameters, and added the newspapers' full names in this edit. I also populated the {{Persondata}} short description parameter in this edit (and will go back and do it for the Cecilia Uddén article too).
- Again, you get to pick which citation style the article should be using. Keep up the great work! GoingBatty (talk) 16:48, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- All your comments are really helping me. Thank you very much!--BabbaQ (talk) 17:35, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- Cheers. It is just that I believe that even if I had been able to do a perfect article I would have probably asked for other users opinions about it anyway. Input is always worth alot. So that an article doesnt become one-sided. --BabbaQ (talk) 17:26, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you both (blush). @BabbaQ: I'll help you with these tomorrow, and I'm happy to continue helping you. However, I'd like to spend more time to teach you how to do some of these things yourself. GoingBatty (talk) 17:24, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, he is a helpful person :). --Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 17:15, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- Well, i always appreciated GoingBattys co-operation ;) Merry christmas.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:36, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Request from Mike
Sorry again Batty Thanks for your work BUT I have done a botched job on the ARNOLD LUPTON, SIR and COURTESY TITLES pages. Please help! Cheers and thanks so much as always. Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.173.171 (talk) 04:45, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Mike! When you want to start a new thread on a talk page, please use the "New section" tab at the top of the page and pick an appropriate subject. I'll look at these three pages. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 04:48, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Arnold Lupton is done - see these edits Remember that
|last=
/|first=
are only for human names,|title=
is the title of the web page/newspaper article/book (NOT the URL). I also suggest using dmy date format for articles about the UK. GoingBatty (talk) 05:11, 27 December 2013 (UTC) - It appears that your edit to Sir was reverted. Could you please let me know what help you wanted on this page? GoingBatty (talk) 05:13, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Courtesy title is done too. Please remember that the
|quote=
parameter should be exactly what you see on the web page. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 05:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Arnold Lupton is done - see these edits Remember that
AWB
Hello. I will descride what I want to do.
- I want to find all the categories of a main categories. I can do that :).
- I want AWB to insert the template in categories talk pages if they have not already have it.
- I want AWB to insert the template in categories talk pages ever if the talk pages don't exist.
The template is a simple one, has no parameters. Just show a message. I want just to try it, I will not apply to wikipedia categories. Xaris333 (talk) 08:04, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Xaris333: I suggest you go to the More... tab, click Enabled, enter your template, choose either Append or Prepend, pick the number of newlines, and Sort meta data after. Then make your list of talk pages that exist or don't exist, go to the Skip tab and click Don't Care and then start processing. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 13:45, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Arnold Lupton and Phillip Snowden
Hi there Batty I have tried to do a "quote" with a ref. on the "Arnold Lupton" page. Could you please look at it? Also the page - "Phillip Snowden, 1st Viscount Snowden" - is it OK? thanks so much and I hope you had a Merry Christmas! Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.173.171 (talk) 07:24, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- I made some fixes to Arnold Lupton, but the quote in reference 7 is not correct. Although the quote starts with "Box File at National Archives", I don't see that text anywhere on the web page. My suggestion is you copy the text directly from the web page and paste it in the reference.
- On Philip Snowden, 1st Viscount Snowden, reference 4 is not correct. Here's how you can correct it:
- Change {{cite web}} to {{cite book}}
- Change
|title=http://www.....
to|url=http://....
- Change
|work=Managing Domestic Dissent in First World War Britain. Page 186, by Brock Millman
to|title=Managing Domestic Dissent in First World War Britain
|page=186
- Change
|publisher=Frank cass Publisher, London 2000
to|publisher=Frank Cass Publishers
|location=London
|year=2000
- Change
|accessdate=Dcecember 28, 2012
to|accessdate=December 28, 2013
- If you let me know when you've made these changes, I'll look at the articles again. Merry Christmas to you, and Happy New Year! GoingBatty (talk) 15:07, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks on Parsha Portal Pages
Thanks for flagging the fixes needed on the parsha portal pages. I'll get at it. -- Dauster (talk) 23:00, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thank YOU! GoingBatty (talk) 23:46, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
Bettina Bush
When you say 'an IP', this must mean someone included her year of birth (and her year of birth only) without logging in. Consequently, there mustn't be any way of tracking down this user, who'd possibly know what actual date in 1974.Ofcdeadbeat (talk) 01:14, 29 December 2013 (UTC)Ofcdeadbeat
- @Ofcdeadbeat: You're right. Hope you can find a reliable source. Happy holidays! GoingBatty (talk) 15:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
Is BattyBot tired?
It seems that BattyBot sometimes takes a break for a few hours, or sometimes longer. Is this by design? Is this something I should notify you about? I'm looking forward to it making a complete pass through the CS1 date category so that we can take a look at the remaining errors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:16, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95: AWB stops after 5000 bot edits by design. Sometimes the issue is a flaky internet connection or AWB throws an error after running for a long time. Even though there are still 37,000 articles still to go in this first pass, feel free to look at the remaining errors in articles starting with 0-9 or A-Ps and fix those that can't be done by bot, or make suggestions on rules I can add to the bot. Happy holidays! GoingBatty (talk) 15:14, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
Grammar checks
Do you know if there's any way to set AWB to use the old version of the typos list without the addition of the grammar checks, or to make the grammar checks optional? All of these "errors" ("with the exception of", "so as to", "as to whether", "many different") are grammatically correct in British English (and as I've mentioned on the talkpage, some of them have distinctly different meanings to the suggested corrections). Because most of the articles I work on are in BrEng, this has made the regex function in AWB effectively unusable - whereas before roughly 5-10% of the pages flagged by AWB as containing typos were false positives, I'd estimate that it's as high as 90% for me now. Mogism (talk) 18:03, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Mogism: I'll disable them all for now - could you please come discuss this further on Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Typos? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- Sure, will do - thanks Mogism (talk) 18:11, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your help on the Harp Twins article, and a question.
Hi GoingBatty,
I very much appreciate your excellent work on the Camille and Kennerly Kitt page. The article's references section looks so much better now. Citing references is one of my biggest weaknesses because I try to do what is right but there are things I don't understand because when I use the automatic "Cite" option, the boxes that I fill in are not properly explained. For example, it doesn't say what the publisher means. Is there a wiki link you could give me please with detailed instructions for what each box means? Some are very obvious, of course, but as I said, the publisher is tricky to me, as well as when to cite web and when to cite a newspaper that is online (I can't even find that option). Once again, thank you so much, and have a very nice day. Dontreader (talk) 21:12, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Dontreader: Try Template:Cite web and Template:Cite news - the instructions should be very similar. GoingBatty (talk) 21:45, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks GoingBatty! I will study them now. All the best... Dontreader (talk) 23:08, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
Félix Martí-Ibáñez categories
GoingBatty— Thanks for adding categories to the article, Félix Martí-Ibáñez. Not being familiar with the guidelines for them nor all of the categories, I was reluctant to try more than a few. I do wonder, however, why you have changed some categories I had added and noted his affiliation only as Spanish for all significant categories for him. He emigrated to the U.S. at the age of thirty and became an American citizen. Although he is notable for Spanish culture, he is even more notable for American culture. His contributions to medical literature and history was international, being read by physicians, other professionals, and a world-wide audience among other groups. All of his books were published in English and through the publishing house he founded in Manhattan, where he lived until he died at the age of sixty. His command of English was remarkable. His most important writings were in English and authored after he had emigrated to his new county of citizenship. The vast majority of his professional work was in his adopted country and his clinical writings were in English. Can we reflect this by adding categories related to the thirty years of his professional work after changing citizenship? Or would it be better to revert to my categories regarding his professional work and merely create categories for his birth citizenship and location and also for his adopted citizenship and location? What are your thoughts on this? (Copied to my talk page and the article page also) _ _ _ _ 83d40m (talk) 17:55, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
- Let's discuss at Talk:Félix Martí Ibáñez - thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:00, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, see you there! _ _ _ _ 83d40m (talk) 18:22, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
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