User talk:Davecain2

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January 2020[edit]

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Functional medicine, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. Zefr (talk) 16:58, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing.

If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Functional medicine, you may be blocked from editing. Take content disputes to the talk page, or you will get blocked. Zefr (talk) 17:00, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Functional medicine. You must discuss changes like you're proposing on the talk page, and gain consensus among other editors, WP:CON. This has already been discussed there as you'll see. Final warning before admin review. Zefr (talk) 17:05, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your addition to Functional medicine has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. McSly (talk) 17:05, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion[edit]

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Davecain2 reported by User:Zefr (Result: ). Thank you. Zefr (talk) 17:30, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A proper Wikipedia description of Functional Medicine should be true and non-bias for patients looking for this type of care. The current page is a hugely one-sided “rant” against functional medicine made by one man, David Gorski, who has a website dedicated to the bashing of non-mainstream medicine. This should not be the number one hit on Google when a patient is looking for a functional medicine doctor in they’re area. Functional medicine has saved so many lives nationwide. People deserve an accurate description. Davecain2 (talk) 17:38, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

January 2020[edit]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for persistently making disruptive edits.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bbb23 (talk) 17:35, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Davecain2 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I was making valid edits to the “functional medicine” article. The current article is one sides propaganda against Functional Medical and was written by David Gorski. This is the 1st web hit patients see when they search for a Functional MD in their area. Functional Medicine is a wonderful form of healthcare that deserves a proper description. Nothing posted was against copyright violation. I was blocked almost instantly by the user Bbb23 while making these edits. How does a user get blocked from Wikipedia this quickly?(about 30 seconds after posting). It was obvious that the person blocking me wasn’t reading the new information for the article. Davecain2 (talk) 18:32, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You posted a copyright violation and edit warred to keep it and other content you posted there. Furthermore, the information you want to add seems to be blatant promotion. Since you don't think you did anything wrong at all, there are no grounds to lift the block, and I must decline your request. 331dot (talk) 19:11, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This is obviously an unfair bureaucracy and I have written a formal letter about the matter and mailed it to:

Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 1 Montgomery Street Suite 1600 San Francisco, CA 94104 USA

All admin usernames involved have been noted.

Davecain2 (talk) 19:49, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Davecain2 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Evidence that I posted copyrighted material was not stated and made clearDavecain2 (talk) 19:52, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

"Evidence"? You cut and pasted from https://www.ifm.org/about/history/ ; do you not remember doing that? --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 20:10, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

I have the written consent of The Institute for Functional Medicine to use their description to edit this inaccurate Wikipedia page. Davecain2 (talk) 20:31, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Davecain2 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I have the written consent of The Institute for Functional Medicine to use their description to edit this currently inaccurate Wikipedia page. Davecain2 (talk) 21:01, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Great. This doesn't address the reason for your block, as explained by Jpgordon below. Nor does it address the numerous other problems. Yamla (talk) 00:37, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

You might have such consent. Wikipedia, however, does not, and since you are not the copyright owner, you do not have the right to provide such consent. See WP:PERMISSION for what is required when inserting copyrighted material into Wikipedia. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 00:05, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with Functional Medicine wiki page[edit]

There should be a proper description of Functional Medicine on Wikipedia.

The current wiki page is an article written by David Gorski, someone who is against functional medicine, using his own website for all his references. This is not what patients should see when searching for a functional medicine doctor and a proper description of the practice. This type of healthcare has saved and improved lives in cities across America.

Functional medicine is just as important as any other medical field and deserves a real article on Wikipedia. Davecain2 (talk) 18:12, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Davecain2, there is. You just don't like it. Weird how often people who have a vested interest in quackery dislike the way (who have no vested interest either way) we describe it. Guy (help!) 08:34, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I’m just a patient of 2 years. My Functional MD here in Nashville has turned my health around in an incredible way, using modern western medicine, methods from Ayurveda, methods from Chinese medicine and Japanese cooking(All this is Functional Med). Others should benefit the way I have, because people are amazing and everyone deserves to thrive. I see that you are old and out of touch by using the term “Quackery”. The world is changing my friend, just go pick up a February 2020 Time magazine, and your small minded, angry description of healthcare outside your tiny world view won’t stop it. This current write up of functional medicine is opinionated and not fact…. At least I found out how close minded and out of touch this wiki community is.