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Request on 18:11:21, 30 November 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Hkpir

• Hkpir (talk · contribs)
  • User:Hkpir (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This content is not copied. This book was edited by my Late grandfather and the other by my Late father. Some publications have also used different spellings for the name of the Great Saint like “Jiwan/Jewan/Jeewan”. 1. “Swami Jewan Sahib- His Life and Ideals” Edited and Published by (Late) Shiv Jee Pir (father of H K Pir the holder of this Wikipedia account) in August 1957 2. “Jeewan-Stuti-Homage to Bhagwan Jewan Sahib” Published by (Late) Shri S. L. Peer in January 1983 Now if we want to showcase whatever was written in this book through Wikipedia platform I do not know where is the problem. This is our family owned book we had already mentioned this in the talk page. Everything in this book is authentic and written by my late father. Kindly approve this page this is a noble work towards humanity and God will bless you. No copyright issue is there this is our own book. I had already published in the wikipedia talk page about it at the very beginning

Hkpir (talk) 18:11, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Hkpir, you were copy-pasting and closely paraphrasing material from the book. Please read WP:COPYPASTE and the section "If I own the source, or work for the owner of the source, can I copy it to Wikipedia? ( WP:MYTEXT ) and "Can I copy if I change the text a little bit?" AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 00:29, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Hkpir, you also have a strong conflict of interest on the article as it covers your direct family members. The sourcing depends on whether the material is available, published and put in libraries that others can research. However, it also needs additional sourcing from people not associated with the subject. If there are local or national newspaper articles that cover his career, that would be more helpful to establish notability. It can't just be from primary resources such as his family-written biography book and related website. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:50, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Entrepreneurship

Dear Angus WOOF, thank you for reviewing my draft. You are right; it sounded too much like a memorial. So I have edited it to sound less like a memorial. In addition to the 6 references that I added after the first unsuccessful review, today I have added a new award at the end. It was just recently renamed for Howard Frederick by his last university. I hope this will satisfy your critique. Please let me know. Thanks. Seniorexpat (talk) 14:12, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Seniorexpat, I suggest indicating how he meets WP:NACADEMIC if he's a distinguished professor or has chaired a department before for a well-known university and can mention that in the draft talk page or the AFC comments section. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:25, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Revisiting the article on "Efik Religion"

I have made some changes to the article on Efik religion as insisted and moved some of the content bordering on myth to the Efik mythology page. You are welcome to revisit and re-review the page. Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamosamudiame (talk • contribs) 21:55, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Machinery Pete

Greg Peterson has been covering farm equipment auctions for various industry magazines for more than 20 years enjoy your Dutch Apple Pie

A Dutch Apple Pie

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.69.189.65 (talk) 16:19, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

186.69.189.65, saying 20+ years is vague and makes the bio look more like advertising, see WP:IBA and WP:IPR. Can you describe that in his biography section but use a more specific year range, such as: "He was a regular columnist for (magazine) from (year) to (year), and also wrote for (magazine) and (magazine2). In (year), he published (book)...etc..." Also please find more references about Peterson's career. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 19:02, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Tauqir Sharif

You have moved this article to draft with the comment that the referencing is 'weird' in your opinion. The article contains general references Wikipedia:CITETYPE but that is not reason to move it to draft. The reason you have used on my talk page that it needs more citations is also not true. Amirah talk 17:28, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Amirah, the reference formatting is incorrect. You shouldn't have bullet lists of external links following each individual statement about the person. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:41, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

General references are allowed on Wikipedia and particularly in a new article which is a stub. Amirah talk 17:43, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Just to satisfy you even though I don't think your correct over this, I've taken out the general references and republished it. Know the page says it was created by you, but you did not create the page. You did not have to move the page to draft space. You could have edited yourself or asked me to edit it if you wanted the general references removed. It only took two minutes to do that. I would like to complain about your behaviour. There is no need for this. Amirah talk 18:09, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Amirah, I did edit it myself, but then you undid whatever I did, even now with the sectioning and hatnotes. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 00:06, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Please explain to me why you object to the sectioning and the hatnotes. Amirah talk 00:56, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

That was already explained in the Help Desk response. Excessive sectioning. You do not need one section with one sentence each Also for hatnotes, you shouldn't need to put see alsos to organizations or events unless he was the key founder of the event. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 02:23, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

You appear to disagree with me about whether there should be a 'personal life' section in a draft article which I am in the process of creating. I have opened a discussion about it on the draft talk page to achieve consensus. Amirah talk 15:36, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Amirah, personal life sections can cover the non-career and non-activism activities, mainly marriages and families. Sometimes editors use it to cover stuff like gender identity / preference, religious affiliations, arrests not related to work/activism. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:55, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, as I've now said on the article talk page, I agree with the section being added as the info on his daughters passport application could also fit better there than in the 'aid work' section. Amirah talk 16:58, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

Hi AngusWOOF, Wish you a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year, Thank you for your great work on Wikipedia. Happy Holidays. DMySon (talk) 15:16, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2022!

Hello AngusWOOF, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2022. Happy editing, Trailblazer101 (talk) 17:27, 25 December 2021 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Trailblazer101 (talk) 17:27, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Sheikh Asif (entrepreneur)

Have a look to this Draft ☺ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simu08 (talk • contribs) 18:30, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Zombie House Flipping

Hi, I clicked resubmit, but that was only because I wasn't able to edit the page, there was no Edit option.

Can you please, I guess decline it so I can edit it, and when you do decline it, will there be an edit option? Like I said, the only reason I resubmitted it was because there wasn't an Edit option.

ElizabethJamey (talk) 20:10, 29 December 2021 (UTC)ElizabethJamey

ElizabethJamey, it looks like it's been declined by CNMall41, so you should be able to resume editing. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:33, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Troutman Pepper

Hello! You have declined my submission because an article already exist but I think this is not the case. Troutman Sanders is a defunct company, therefore it is not the same as Troutman pepper which is a merger between Troutman Sanders and Pepper Hamilton. Shouldn't we start a new article and leave Troutman Sanders and Pepper Hamilton articles as they are, those companies no longer exists. Happy holidays Rseinfold (talk) 03:05, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

• My idea is to edit both articles and mark em as not active or defunct companies. They should not cover this new venture. Rseinfold (talk) 03:22, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Rseinfold, is it an equal merge or is one bigger than the other? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 04:29, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Rseinfold, I think there is enough to make a stub article. It appears to be about even in representation. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 21:32, 30 December 2021 (UTC):

happy new year, cool It is a big merger.. Rseinfold (talk) 14:28, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Genetics of Guijars

Reading the history and discussion, I cannot tell whether there was consent or not. (I am also concerned about a part of the argument that I interpret as saying that we shouldn't consider it because it might raise nationalist tensions, which is irrelevant). I am aware of the existence of WP:SPLIT. It's an information page , not even a guideline. I think the better place where this should be determined is AFd, which is where we determine if articles are acceptable and gets more attention. .. Of course, I may be mistaken and there might be a policy requiring only the use of WP:SPLIT--if so, where is it? Otherwise, please restore the article and send it to afd. DGG ( talk ) 19:05, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Unarchiving

Is there a reason you undid Lowercase Sigmabot III's archiving on my talk page here? --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 00:22, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Ahecht, I might have clicked one of those automatic undos on a watchlisted page by accident. Sorry about that! AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 01:05, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Anjal Prakash

I dont understand why you have rejected my draft. Dr Anjal Prakash is a very distinguished person from his field. All the citations and referenced that I have written are from independent sources not from any self citations. It has enough references in every sections. Kindly show which section needs references. I will edit that. I request you to kindly accept this submission. This is not a self promotion or paid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnjalPrakash (talk • contribs)

Not AngusWOOF, but I can say that there are zero citations in the Education section, zero in the first paragraph of the Professional career section, zero in the Teaching career subsection, and then multiple instances of 5 citations to support the same sentence that probably only needs 1 or 2 (see WP:OVERCITE). There are also some inappropriate external links in the second paragraph of the Professional career section. That's what I see from pure policy stuff, I have not really analyzed the writing at all and am not taking a stance on that. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 11:35, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

AnjalPrakash, please see the comments on the draft. 1) Onel5969 moved the article back to draft because of undisclosed paid editing WP:UPE heavy promotion. Please see comments on your talk page 2) AssumeGoodWraith is the editor who put the rejection tag on it; you may want to check with that editor. 3) The issues I listed in declining the draft have not been addressed. A good chunk of the "references" are coming from Prakash's publications / articles, and the verbiage still appears to be promotional. 4) By virtue of having the same name as the subject, it implies you have a conflict of interest that you need to disclose Please read WP:COI and WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:37, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

And there are other clear indications of COI/UPE conflict. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:41, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Onel5969, another draft of this popped up recently. Could it be from the same COI/UPE group? I filed an SPI on it. It seems like they toned some of the embedded links down, but still refer to the person deferentially as Dr Prakash. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:37, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Quack quack. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 21:36, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Onel5969, can you comment on this at the SPI: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Pramit4isb AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:21, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Request on 23:14:37, 4 January 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Jrfw51

• Jrfw51 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Foxes and Fossils (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thank you for reviewing this draft. I think this band meet the notability criteria 1. (Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself). I have provided 5 sources in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject, in a range of different media: newspaper, online reviews, book. There is no need for traditional charting. YouTube figures do not seem to feature as a criterion for acceptance. I do not want to include WP:OR where there are not the published sources to quote. Please advise regarding this. Also, if you have difficulty accessing the newspaper source I quoted, please let me know and I can forward them. Jrfw51 (talk) 23:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Jrfw51, I put my analysis of the sources on the talk page of the draft and am asking other AFC reviewers to consider those. A lot of the sources are still primary / interviews or direct website related, and other than AJC, seem to be non-notable blogs. There is that Harmony Center one where the writer covered one of their songs. You might also want to list those authors names and their respective publications in describing the reception of the band's work. Also, it is rather difficult to see how they extend outside the Atlanta area. Have they done notable tours outside of Georgia? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 05:02, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply and putting the analysis on the talk page. I will reply further there. I think I have not made the point clearly (but it is in the sources) that they are not now a touring band, and they have gained their notability by their YouTube videos and internet presence, attracting attention widely.Jrfw51 (talk) 09:57, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

I replied to your question on my talk page -- but forgot to ping you. Thanks for all the edits you have made which have raised the standard of this article. Jrfw51 (talk) 10:15, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

COI for Dr. Vin Gupta

Hello!

Thank you for the outreach. I have no COI with Vin Gupta, I do not know him in any capacity personally. However, Ive seen him all the time on television over the past 2+ years and was glad to see a wiki article finally created, since I and many others have closely followed his guidance on cable news. Just trying to improve his article, but I do not think the COI is a valid flag nor have I in anyway been paid to provide my inputs or edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruben gomez23 (talk • contribs) 00:16, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Ruben gomez23, the other major editor has a COI as they have published press release material advertising his appearance at their conference they facilitated. As for paid contributions, you may still have an apparent COI for associating with Gupta's organization as you have interacted with Gupta's publicist to release a personal photo. If they want to donate photos they should interact with Wikipedia Commons. See WP:DCM Your username also looks very similar to the other editor's which is why other editors are concerned you and the other editor may be the same person or part of the same organization. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 03:16, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

See https://www.mirepoixllc.com/news/2021/9/2/two-wonderful-friends-dr-vin-gupta-and-beth-fouhy-made-a-virtual-return-to-boston-last-february-to-help-us-spread-community-health "Two wonderful friends" AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 03:19, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

My draft

You just removed birthplace and birth date Mumbai is mentioned as hometown in his offical (personal) Facebook ID. Can it be mentioned as a source. If not, will starsunfolded be considered as a reliable source? JaggaDaaku (talk) 03:02, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

JaggaDaaku, hometown isn't the same as birthplace. Can you find a news source that confirms birthday and birth place? Can't use StarsUnfolded, since they reference Wikipedia as a source so that's circular. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 03:07, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

There are many more like celeb hungry, wikipbio, newsmasterravi and ....... What should I do in this case? By the way he repeatedly mentions in his streams that he is born in mumbai. And his dob is 3 june 1997 JaggaDaaku (talk) 03:09, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

And the article which I am talking about has no reference to wikipedia bcoz there is no page related to the subject. They have used his Instagram Facebook Youtube Outlook India Dailyhunt and some others in the article JaggaDaaku (talk) 03:12, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

JaggaDaaku, if you can't find news articles, you can reference the YouTube video or social media message where he explicitly states his birthday or birthplace. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 03:17, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Is outlook india a reliable source? JaggaDaaku (talk) 03:42, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

JaggaDaaku, Outlook (Indian magazine) seems to be a regular news source per WP:INCINE, but the article would have to be focused on Dynamo's career and not a passing mention or a brief blurb among a list of YouTubers. Well, no point in going further on this for now. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:24, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for that. I wasn't aware of that - I work on a lot of Japanese game articles, but I'm not really familiar with all the anime MOS stuff. I didn't think to check because I honestly thought Sands of Destruction was so obscure in 2022 that no one would really notice my cleanup efforts on it. Sergecross73 msg me 14:52, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Sergecross73, no prob. It was a big discussion on WT:ANIME a few years ago. Although if it's an adaptation from a long-running manga, it can still be titled as List of (title) episodes. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:20, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Error on Vin Gupta edit

Thank you for your attention and quick feedback. I’m concerned by a few of your follow-up edits. Gupta is now, according to his CV on his website, a part-time attending physician at Virginia Mason Medical Center and also serves as a deployable CCATT doctor for the Air Force Reserves. He no longer works at UW or Swedish. I tried correcting this but my edits were erased. I think it’s important to get this right given how visible he is. Thank you. Airforcebrat1945 (talk) 20:41, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Airforcebrat1945, can you provide references to show he is no longer with UW / Swedish? According to his resume, he has left Swedish and joined the Virginia Mason Medical Center, but for UW he joined Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation both of which are still in the Seattle area. He's part-timed for some talks and work with USAF Reserves in Virginia in September 2021, but is still mainly based in Seattle. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:57, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

I appreciate your feedback and help. Im an avid follower of the news and a former USAF vet so particularly follow Dr. Gupta's commentary. Disappointed that you seemed to flag his article as being "somewhat promotional" when many of his fellow NBC News medical analyst contributors have long, drawn-out wikipedia pages that are far more promotional in my opinion. Nothing I added or that was there was for flare, just the facts. Think the tag up top just diminishes the article, especially when his peers (other NBC Medical contributors) are evidently not being judged to the same standard. Anyhow, appreciate you helping to make this article better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Airforcebrat1945 (talk • contribs) 03:27, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Airforcebrat1945, the primary editors of the draft have been COI associated with the subject so we're really sensitive to when another editor makes a bunch of edits that appear promotional, and that's the only article they work on (WP:SPA) like emphasizing how strongly tied to the military in his career, when that's not really the main reason why he's on TV. We need some other editors that aren't fans or dislikers of the subject to check over the tone. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 04:48, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Airforcebrat1945, see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS regarding other media contributors. If any of those seem biased, you can tag those articles so they can be cleaned up. It was previously tagged for conflict of interest, see WP:COI, when the editor clearly had a professional association with the subject, having them to speak at their organization's event and writing promotional articles advertising it as such. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:36, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Airforcebrat1945, the lead paragraph doesn't need to "align" with his CV. That would mean having to put the COI tag back. The paragraph can just describe why he's notable. The media appearances don't always talk about his being a major unless it is concerning his work specifically with USAF. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:58, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Request on 20:43:21, 9 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Kauerrolemodel

• Kauerrolemodel (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Ultimate Ninja Athlete Association (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Angus,

Thanks for sharing your concerns about the draft article: Draft:Ultimate_Ninja_Athlete_Association.

You stated:

This is still rather confusing. Please provide the three best references that show notability for this association. Also membership requirements, can they also be members of National Ninja League or are they a rival league? World Finals profiles of participants do not need to show how they are associated with the American Ninja Warrior TV series.

I will attempt to address each of the above comments.

Three best references

I'm not sure if these are the best references, but these are all independent, secondary sources explicitly about the UNAA.

• https://theninjapassport.com/uncovering-the-unaa-an-interview-with-bob-clark-of-the-ultimate-ninja-athlete-association/
• https://vegaspublicity.com/7551/2021-ultimate-ninja-athlete-association-world-series-final-championships-comes-to-orleans-arena-july-29-31.html
• https://www.worldobstacle.org/leagues/%7Ctitle=World

There are numerous independent press stories identifying athletes that have competed in the UNAA and each of those independent sources thought it was significant enough to run a story on an athlete who made it to the UNAA World Finals. Yet, I have been consistently told I need secondary sources. I am not trying to be obstinate, but I really just don't understand.

The thing I find even more strange is the challenge that I keep experiencing from reviewers who don't seem to recognize that the NBC Show (recognized on Wiki as significant... one of the most popular shows on television for many years running... now approaching Season 14) spawned a sport that has grown significantly - internationally - to the point it is being staged for potential future olympic competition through World Obstacle recognized through the GAISF (also recognized as significant by Wikipedia) who validates the UNAA as a significant league rather than the National Ninja League (which also has a page on Wikipedia - and a rival league, see below) but for some reason none of this is significant enough to get the more prominent league its own page.

The sport's significance is recognized in many ways, in addition to the independent articles about the athletes that participate, e.g.

• https://gaisf.sport/world-obstacle-officially-granted-gaisf-observer-status/
• https://www.sportstravelmagazine.com/ninja-makes-its-move-to-the-mainstream/

There is very little doubt in any athlete's mind who participates in the sport that the UNAA is a significant league, whether or not they choose to participate in it.

Also membership requirements, can they also be members of National Ninja League or are they a rival league?

I pointed out in the draft that the UNAA dropped the membership requirements in the current season (Season 7). Individuals can and do participate in either or both leagues. The NNL and UNAA both started independently 7 years ago and were centered in different parts of the country, both seeing the growth of the sport and trying to pull together a bigger organization. Somewhere along the line (details are different depending on who you talk to), the NNL decided that it would restrict gyms that host NNL events from hosting UNAA events (and eventually a few other organizations). I'm not sure what that has to do with the UNAA's significance. In fact, the UNAA is recognized and affiliated with far more organizations in the sport than the NNL is. Nevertheless, they are both significant leagues. Schisms do not define significance. The reality is that the National Ninja League is very predominant in the Northeast (and because it is so predominant, many athletes who compete in the northeast choose not to compete in the UNAA as the opportunities to compete in the northeast without air travel are many), and the UNAA is more prominent in the Southwest and has presence throughout the rest of the US as well as more significant international ties.

World Finals profiles of participants do not need to show how they are associated with the American Ninja Warrior TV series.

I'd be happy to remove them, however, as I keep getting told they are looking for significance and secondary sources, I was trying to establish that well-known and accomplished athletes participate in the World Finals.

As I mentioned to others, I keep getting told the same things, about secondary sources and significance. I added more references and now it is suggested I take them away.

Again, not trying to be obstinate, I'm just trying to get a page published that - as a significant expert in the sport - seems to belong on Wikipedia. In fact, I found it missing around the same time I learned that the National Ninja League had a page (which, at the time, was obviously written by a National Ninja League promoter rather than as an objective piece by someone outside the organization... I edited that to make it more accurate, significant, and referenced - which was readily accepted. I'm just trying to provide a more balanced perspective of the sport and include possibly the most prominent organization in the sport.

I'm making a couple of other edits since a few things have changed in the sport since my original draft. I hope that the get published before too much else happens.

Thanks for listening.

Kauerrolemodel (talk) 20:43, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll put this on the talk page so other AFC reviewers can check. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 21:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Regarding my Draft

Hello AngusWOOF, I replied to your comments here but you may not read them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AngusWOOF/Archive_23#Draft:Iranian_Cheetah_Society

please let me know how can I proceed to create our page. You could also visit the Asiatic Cheetah page where the society is a reference for conservation efforts.

Looking forward to hearing from you. --Persian.palas (talk) 10:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Persian.palas, it looks too much like a website especially with the bullet lists and objectives. Can you rewrite that into prose and not have Objectives? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 14:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello AngusWOOF, I've re-wrote the bullets. I appreciate it If you could take a look at the page here Draft:Iranian_Cheetah_Society. Thanks in advance.

WP:AFC Helper News

Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.

• AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
• The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:59, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Primefac, thanks, that's good to know the option is there. I've had to use db-move before or CSD G6 (AFCH), but then the admin just moves the draft over or rejects it. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Ravi Cabot-Conyers

Hi! Just wondering what I can do to get this page accepted - Ravi is a major role in an Oscar-nominated Disney Animated Film, Encanto, that is hugely viral right now. He voices Antonio, the little boy whose gift ceremony in the film is the catalyst for the rest of the plot. Please let me know if I can cite this differently or anything I can do to verify it.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MelanieHinkle (talk • contribs) 16:12, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

MelanieHinkle, please see WP:ENT. He needs significant roles in major productions. His role in Encanto isn't star billing; he isn't on the billing poster like he would be for blackAF. Can you find other roles? Also if you can find at least three general news articles that cover his career, please list those on the draft's talk page. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:57, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Draft:List of BFDIA episodes

Hello, AngusWOOF,

Your explanation on why this page should be deleted is less than clear to me. Speedy deletion is really not made for deletion requests with long rationales, it's expected that you use one of the accepted criteria for deletion. Maybe if you say a little more here, I will understand why you think this page should be deleted. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:20, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It might be deletable under WP:G4. wizzito | say hello! 03:41, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Do you have a link to a previous AFD? That would be helpful. Although, these days, pages tagged CSD G4 tend to sit for days before they are acted upon. There are other criteria for speedy deletion that are much easier to handle than G4s. There are speedy deletion criteria categories that are always quickly emptied and others which kind of sit around for a while. The oddities of the admin world. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:50, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Liz: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle for Dream Island, which also has helpful history regarding all the deletions. wizzito | say hello! 05:33, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Liz, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive329#Battle_For_Dream_Island which has links to the AFD and MFDs This is being requested to be created every few weeks or so. The proper title for the episode list is blacklisted. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 08:23, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Re: your rejection of Draft:Cary Huang

Before you rejected that draft as having "no indications of notability since 2019", did you check its references? That draft cites sources such as Snopes, The Daily Dot, Gizmodo, ABC News, The Huffington Post and the Christian Science Monitor.

How much more (reliable independent) coverage would it need before it's eligible for the article space? By comparison, the article on The Infographics Show only cites Forbes, The 961, Medium (which is considered generally unreliable per WP:RSPSS), Interesting Engineering, HiFi Public, and Timeout, with YouTube making up the rest of its sources. (four of those sources aren't even listed at WP:RSPSS) Is that example okay as far as Wikipedia's notability guidelines are concerned? If not, should the article be put up for deletion, or would it just need the More citations needed template? – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 21:19, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

References

MrPersonHumanGuy, Huffington Post and Snopes are not reliable. The others need to check if it covers his career and is not a passing mention as an expert. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:21, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

MrPersonHumanGuy, see also WP:CREATIVE. The work has to be significant with critiques by those papers, not just a check out these videos mention. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:32, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

MrPersonHumanGuy, also how is Cary separately notable from Michael? It seems like their activities go together. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:43, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

I agree; Making the article be about Cary alone is like giving Wilbur Wright his own article but not Orville as opposed to making the article be about both of them. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 16:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

You can see the TwoSet Violin article as a reference, but also note their extensive discussion from third-party references. I would stay away from the Battle from Dream Island videos, which is what triggered mass article blocks. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:16, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Rejection of Draft:Stanisław Sylwester Alfonzy Grodyński

Thank you AngusW🐶🐶F for your prompt review of my draft article – I must admit that I had expected it to take much longer to have it assessed by someone who would have the time to consider and appreciate the broad extent of this biographical article through challenging periods of Poland’s history!

Following my ‘discussions’ with the previous reviewer, and the considerable efforts made to address the specific points he raised, I was doubly disappointed to read that the “reasons” for declining this article included the standard paragraph “This submission does not appear to be … that promote the subject”, specifically:
Written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopaedia article and from a neutral point of view - I am not a professional writer but I believe this to now be the case (eg references to Grodyński instead of Stanisław in the text).
Avoid peacock terms - believe this has also generally been achieved and if you can point to any remaining examples of these I will of course endeavour to address them.
Should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources – many more references are now cited, including more newspaper articles and the recommendation of promotion to Captain, which not only included a summary military history covering WWI and WWII but also included an independent ‘character reference’. While admittedly the published book that has also been repeatedly referenced could be considered to represent a COI being authored by his son, however there are exceptional circumstances here which make even employment of family observations justified; such as during the period in exile through which many of the ‘independent witnesses’ did not survive similar personal stories collectively form seemingly adequate evidence of individual experiences/events. However, should it remain a concern that “This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources” then this single standard paragraph should be sufficient here.

It is certainly understood that Wikipedia is not a “memorial service”, but especially given the current situation in Ukraine it would seem desirable that as full a picture as possible (within accepted guidelines) is provided of a person who prior to WWII uniquely served as a Polish Governor in what are now Ukraine and Belarus, as well as in Poland, even if in limited aspects this article raises some concerns regarding COI in spite of significant details being independently verifiable or having been previously published independent of Wikipedia.

NB Copies of a number of documents referenced have been posted to Wikimedia\Stanisław SA Grodyński and can be read online so it is generally, given the independent sources also referenced, not necessary to rely on “documents that can’t be vetted except by the family members” as primary or secondary sources.

While it is probably optimistic to think that you would now support the creation of this article in its current form, you could perhaps look at removing one of the standard paragraphs included in the ‘reason’ for declining. Appreciate your consideration of the foregoing comments and look forward to reading your response! --StanG 11:35, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

StanG, the references need to be formatted better and shown to be accessible to Wikimedia then. Most of the paragraphs (a-p) are referencing "The Grodyński Brigade, Andrzej ST Grodyński 1977/2012". This appears to be a primary source and family document. Most of the facts are coming from that. The "AG obituary, funeral and tribute details" and "noting further AG details and account of funeral procession" is also primary and family connected, as well as pieces from the museums. This is my main concern, that it's primariliy sourced by family members. It should be condensed to information that isn't provided by family members. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:04, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you again AngusW🐶🐶F for your prompt response! I certainly understand that ideally a larger number of contributors to an article is preferred, but surely the most important consideration is whether information contained in the article, especially significant facts, is\are referenced sufficiently to facilitate independent verification or not. While the book written by his son, extracts of which can be viewed freely online, covers the key events in the subject's life, key facts in his life can be verified via independent sources cited such as Polish newspaper editions (readily accessible and translatable online), Polish and British journals, registers and records, as well as third-party generated documents uploaded to Wikimedia (some of these could be considered "family documents" or "family connected" but they are also publicly accessible). Perhaps we are not on the same wavelength here, but in the broadest sense why should the specific 'source' matter if a newspaper article referenced with date and page number can be directly viewed online or if a copy of a church birth registry page is uploaded by a family member or by the church directly, as long as that document can be independently scrutinized for the verification of key facts?

PS Further to my previous comments, either way, is the second 'standard paragraph' "This submission does not appear to be ..." necessary, especially as it was not included in the original rejection? --StanG 17:42, 2 March 2022 (UTC) (StanG:talk)

StanG, see WP:BASIC and WP:GNG, "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject." independent of the subject is what concerns me the most with what is cited as over half of the references are pointing to a book / article that is not independent of the subject. I suggest trying to write the article without using that book and then put the book in a Further information section.

See also the exile section of the article; it reads like a narrative from the book. And phrases such as "beloved homeland" or "passed away" don't really help the tone. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:09, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks again AngusW🐶🐶F for your prompt response and further feedback\advice. I certainly understand your legitimate concern about the independence of secondary sources but what I attempted to point out was that while the book is repeatedly referenced, often this is in confirmation of independently sourced significant facts as well as in providing supplementary details. That said, it would undoubtedly help bring such references into this perspective if I follow your suggestion and re-draft the article without reference to the book which I will attempt to do. Also, I can understand that the examples you have quoted seem to support your comment that the exile section “reads like a narrative from the book” and although they appear less formal but generally perhaps reflect a sensitive understanding of the difficult times experienced, I will change such terms\expressions in the revised draft.

In the mean time perhaps you could consider ‘re-coding’ the ‘reason’ for your rejection of the article to drop the ‘second standard paragraph’ based on the arguments provided above as it would appear that the first paragraph, plus your accompanying comment, cover your primary concerns? --StanG 15:33, 3 March 2022 (UTC) (StanG:talk)

StanG, the "reliable sources" and "tone" reasons still apply, but yes, rewriting it would be okay. "passed away" is one of those phrases on "words to watch" MOS:EUPH, MOS:WTW AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:31, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Oli London article

I know you've reviewed many articles, I wanted your input on whether the article should be keep or deleted: [1] Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 04:33, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Btspurplegalaxy, I have replied on the AFD thread. It could flop either way, depending on the strength of the sources presented. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:56, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Omiki

You suggested merging Draft:Omiki into Religion and alcohol when rejecting it. I do not believe that that is a legitimate point to be made, as Omiki is a distinct element in Shinto that would be the equivalent of redirecting Sacramental wine to that article. I do not believe the redirect was ever legitimate in the first place, so I don't think it should be treated as a splinter article. How do I get it published as an independent article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaitreyaVaruna (talk • contribs) 17:23, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

MaitreyaVaruna, my suggestion was to start a talk discussion at those pages on whether omiki can be spun off as a separate article. You can then argue there your stance and gain consensus to split it off. Then you don't need to have it go through the draft process. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:37, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

question about sources/links needed to get a Wikipedia page

Angus,

If a company has been written about in The New York Times, Forbes, Fortune, Reuters and was just named one of the top 10 most innovative education companies by Fast Company magazine, is it worthy of a Wikipedia page? Many similar companies have fewer reliable sources yet have Wikipedia pages. Looking for some advice.

Craig — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.84.172.62 (talk) 01:20, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Craig, please see WP:NCORP. If the articles you mentioned cover the company in detail and aren't associated with the company (not a press release or favorable inside coverage or news announcement). Forbes may or may not be okay depending if it's written by someone who's a staff member on Forbes (OK) or a contributor (not OK). Please see WP:RSP on a list of frequently referred to sources and whether they are good to use. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:12, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Diana Walter for deletion

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Draft:Vivek Verma

Hello AngusWOOF Thank You for reviewing the draft Draft:Vivek Verma, I guess Indian Film Industry has to grow more in the terms of providing credits to their Artistes, I have seen significant coverages on Verma and yet was wondering where are his credits and found these:

• This as a music producer on T-Series from the movie Saansein(In India Programmer means Record producer).
• Bekhudi from Teraa Surroor has his name in the music credit as a Guitarist.
• Wafa ne bewafayi sung by Arijit Singh has Verma's name in the credit (my bad that I didn't mentioned hism prominently as a guitarist in the draft.

Also there were sources which I found in WP:RSP as Reliable like this, this and this they are independent one, also i found This on Milenio yet didn't included it in the article as I felt it wasn't Independent enough to be added,

What would be your opinion on that, Declining the draft keeping its previous history might can be the case, Yet your valuable opinion might help me more in understanding the case study of such Articles, Thanks Surya^{beej   ⋠talk⋡} 19:36, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Suryabeej, those are youtube credits where he is not the main artist, so I don't see where he would pass WP:MUSICBIO there. The Hindu and Patrika ones are possible as significant coverage but again show mainly that he exists and not how he is notable as an artist. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:04, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

AngusWOOF The Hindu Article talks about his song Aashiyaana as you can read in the draft that he is an Indie Artist, and have multiple single releases too, so despite of his credits as a Record Producer in Films and also having Mulriple Singles available Do makes him pass WP:MUSICBIO in total. Surya^{beej   ⋠talk⋡} 20:07, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

And if we talk about those significant coverages, They Exist because he has possible credits available in multiple notable projects in India, So weather as a Musician, Record Producer and also as an Independent Artiste it does makes sense of him having a WP stand alone article. Surya^{beej   ⋠talk⋡} 20:14, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

suryabeej, are those indie songs notable then? I still don't see the record producer part on films. I see Himesh's name instead. Maybe you can rewrite this article so it focuses on his work as main artist and then have a producer credits section in the filmography where some of these can be fleshed out. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:20, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

AngusWOOF Yes, there are multiple coverages I found for his different Independent works, yet I didn't added them as I wanted the draft to be on Point as Verma already has a spammed up history, so details should have potential. Rest I guess I have already added details about the projects where his name is mentioned in the credits, what would you suggest, Shall I specifically mention in the draft's Filmography as per the Youtube credits from T-Series's channel (I consider it usable as it is the Biggest Youtube Channel in the world and then I shall resubmit it for the Review, or shall I edit it and show it to you, Could you guide me with the same!, Thanks Surya^{beej   ⋠talk⋡} 20:33, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

suryabeej, being mentioned in a T-series channel does not give him individual notability. There are countless artists that get a name drop from T-series. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 21:24, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

AngusWOOF agree, as you said in the draft that you failed to find the credits of Verma in Himesh's project and doubt that, That is why I said about the YT thing, rest the sources are enough to show his notability I guess. Surya^{beej   ⋠talk⋡} 21:27, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Vivek Verma

I would oppose the recreation, despite your hard work as the sources are still pretty poor and subject to the usual Indian churnalism and Suryabeej is a sock of Dtt1, spamming xwiki. CUPIDICAE💕 17:52, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

CUPIDICAE💕, thanks, I was hoping after personally scrubbing the draft and shaking out the bad sources that he still has some shred of notability beyond being a key member of Himesh's crew. The national papers certainly recognize him but their coverage of his solo work is at the announcement / release level and not critically/neutrally reviewed like other spinoff artists.

Oh, that's a bummer that Suryabeej is a sock too. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:00, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm pretty skeptical of the sources even so. A lot of them don't appear to be substantially about him and those that are...leave a lot to be desired reliability wise. I filed the SPI report for Dtt1/Surya if you want to check it out. CUPIDICAE💕 18:08, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

For example, despite it's wide spread use on WP (which I think should be deprecated) this isn't an RS - it masquerades as an independent source but it's just a PR/interview rehash and ANN doesn't even divulge who their journalists are. paid for interview. This one I believe I pointed out in another AFD that it's pretty bad because Arun Budhathoki wrote this and the VICE (and a few other articles on different sites all about the subject) article but he's an SEO specialist/PR guy. Same problem. No by line, News18 is notorious for allowing anyone to submit stuff for pay. And the Indulge pieces are all just interviews without any other substance. I could go through each but it seems like a waste of both our time. CUPIDICAE💕 18:13, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

In fact, I pointed out the Arun Budhathoki problem on Prakash Neupane which was ironically AFD'd by Dtt's sock.CUPIDICAE💕 18:15, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

CUPIDICAE💕, thanks, I copied over your analysis of the ones so far to the talk page. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 19:32, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Request on 00:06:11, 4 April 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Ijduncan

• Ijduncan (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Half-Life: The Freeman Chronicles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello I removed the page and tried to merge the article as you suggested. However another user keeps removing it saying that the sources are not good enough. But it has far more sources than other listed films on the same page. They keep deleting it so I am essentially stuck not being allowed to show the existence of this series.

i am trying to understand why this user keeps removing my entry. Which is about something that exists in the world and has sources showing that it does. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem - this person seems determined to keep the information off wikipedia. Ijduncan (talk) 00:06, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Ijduncan, you need to deal with Masem's concerns as spelled out in the revert edits: 1) the information depends too much on primary sources (press releases, websites, interviews, announcements) instead of external secondary sources independent of the subject. You need reviews and analysis of the film from reliable external news sources, such as newspapers and mainstream magazines (certain web magazines are OK). See WP:VG/RS if they concern video games. 2) Your COI on it means that anything added would be carefully scrutinized to see if it is promotional. I suggest adding just a short paragraph comparable to the other short film sections, not a full section with cast. It doesn't stand out more than any of the other short films listed there. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:18, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

You can also discuss the possibility of adding it on the talk page for the series, and post your best sources there for review. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:21, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

"Foppington's Law" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Foppington's Law and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 5#Foppington's Law until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 00:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank You

		The Good Heart Barnstar
		Here is a Barnstar for you for your helping nature with new editors over here, You have had helped expanding the Vivek Verma Musician's Draft back then also and Thank you for your edits on Vivek Kumar Verma. Your helping mindset is making a difference among editors like me, and is a pleasure to collaboratively work on different projects with you over here. Keep up the good effort. Cheers. Suryabeej   ⋠talk⋡ 06:53, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

suryabeej, that article/redirect must not be a foot in the door for more Vivek Verma musician shenanigans. I don't want to have to put WP:SALT on it again. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 14:41, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Ahh you taking me wrong, I don't have any intention to bypass that redirect at all, I made the protection reduction request because I wanted to make Politicians page, not the musician one, Anyways Thanks for your contribution. Surya^{beej   ⋠talk⋡} 12:18, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Suryabeej, the politician one is borderline notable. The MLA meets WP:NPOL but it could also use some more articles on his background. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 14:57, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Noted, Will gradually try to expand it as per available sources. Surya^{beej   ⋠talk⋡} 16:33, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Mark Chua - Lam Li Shuen

To your best recollection, is this version the same as the one you had reviewed before? – robertsky (talk) 01:29, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Robertsky, it seems like someone pulled a copy that I reviewed before, perhaps G13'ed? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 14:16, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Yeah.. Which is why the question if you can remember if it is the same, or there's work done since then. – robertsky (talk) 16:06, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

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Draft:Christian Lavernier

Dear AngusWOOF, I have tried to create this entry in a neutral way and I have removed the information without the reference,I hope you can help me understand the error for this item https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Christian_Lavernier Some publications refer to the same official page of musical edition.https://www.emavinci.it/edizioni/archives/1444. thanks --Kastalia81 (talk) 07:26, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Kastalia81, Ema Vinci appears to be the publisher, so that's a primary source reference. We need more external news sources, independent of the subject, that critique Lavernier's work or cover his career. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:26, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Dear AngusWOOF, thank you for your answer, And thank you for your help. I have tried to keep this entry unbiased and I have found some outside sources but I don't know if you think they are okay. I have put some links here are newspapers and articles, I found some others but I didn't include them I wanted your opinion about it, tanks: https://ita.calameo.com/read/00684305184340fce93e7 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kastalia81 (talk • contribs) 04:14, 28 May 2022 (UTC) https://www.ouest-france.fr/bretagne/carantec-29660/carantec-festival-musiques-ad-lib-du-23-au-26-octobre-7005977 http://chiangmai-imf.com/tag/christian-lavernier/ http://www.dotguitar.it/ewzine/zine/novcd/lavernier.html https://www.musiquesadlib.com/infos-evenement/recital-de-piano-1 https://www.italyrivieralps.com/read-more/argomenti/events/articolo/a-concert-in-dolcedos-church-by-the-world-renowned-classical-guitarist-christian-lavernier.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kastalia81 (talk • contribs) 10:21, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Raegan Revord on Wikipedia

This is in regard to the article's submission being declined as seen at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Raegan_Revord

Since it was earlier rejected based on not enough background, quite a bit has been added. I noticed you have a note about reliable sources. If more reliable sources were added, do you think this article could be resubmitted to be in Wikipedia, or do you think something else is needed? I appreciate your help! Alden Loveshade (talk) 19:11, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Alden Loveshade, the main concern is WP:TOOSOON. Revord only has one major role (Young Sheldon), so we should wait for the next major role / show before considering it. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:22, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

All right, thanks for the explanation. I admit, I don't understand why someone who's been a regular cast member in a hit television show on one of the major television networks for five years doesn't deserve their own article. But someone who did a little nude modeling at age 18 then got killed a few months later does. I'm used to writing by the standards of the Associated Press, NBC Sports Network, Yahoo News, etc. I don't know if I'll ever understand the standards of Wikipedia. Alden Loveshade (talk) 23:19, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

"You might be a Wikipediholic if"

Hi. I just came across your page and read "You might be a Wikipediholic if". A lot of the points hit home and made me laugh. Thanks. :-) Robby.is.on (talk) 21:21, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Robby.is.on, thanks, glad you enjoyed it :) AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:02, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Draft review undone

Hey, an ip editor undid my review of Draft:Freya Fox. I'm not super familiar with how to proceed in this situation and figured that I would ask the previous reviewer if they knew what to do. Assistance would be appreciated. TipsyElephant (talk) 10:25, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

It looks like someone else has taken care of it. TipsyElephant (talk) 12:27, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

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Draft:Om the Battle Within

You said it needs critical reception and screening but these sections are only added after a movie is released specially for Indian films. The movie will release on 1 July 2022, so more updates will soon come. MNWiki845 (talk) 17:29, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

MNWiki845, yes, once the advance screenings come out and critics from major newspapers, magazines, and websites review it, then it can be written upon and probably be enough to submit. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:33, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Baymax

You said there has to be more proof that "Baymax!" is a separate project from "Big Hero 6: The Series". As if being developed by different and separate studios isn't enough proof? BestDaysofMusic (talk) 16:08, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

BestDaysofMusic, right, that needs to be shown in the description. Saying it's being developed by Walt Disney Animation and that it is in the same continuity as Big Hero 6: The Series makes it associated. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:18, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

BestDaysofMusic, compare with Cars Toons. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:06, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

The series was called a spin-off of the Big Hero 6 movie. And the reason it says that they are set in the same continuity is because they are bitj Big Hero 6 follow-ups. And BH6TS was never once brought up by the creative team. BestDaysofMusic (talk) 17:41, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Christian Lavernier

Dear,AngusWOOF

I tried to enter the information in the required way staying impartial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Christian_Lavernier "I apologize but I didn't realize I was logged in with another account I use" I hope it didn't cause any problems. I ask advice from you for if queta entry can be improved and if it can be of interest. in case it is not I can delete it. I am waiting for your help. Thank you--Kastalia81 (talk) 12:59, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

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New Page Review queue June 2022

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Draft:Izin Hash

I've not added Times of India as a reference. He acted in two movies. There are so many international articles about him. That Mallu Guy (talk) 01:27, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

That Mallu Guy, acting in movies doesn't mean he had star billing in it. See WP:ENT. The second film I don't see where he stars in the film. He is not one of the five main actors: https://northofthe10.com/about/ AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:26, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Draft:El Cubano, Cuba

In Draft:El Cubano you said I’m from the region. Which I am but I wasn’t raised there and I don’t know anything about the region except where the places are and what my parents told me. And I especially don’t know about El Cubano. CubanoBoi (talk) 01:46, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Oops I mean Draft:El Cubano, Cuba CubanoBoi (talk) 01:46, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

CubanoBoi, please see KylieTastic's feedback on the Draft:El Cubano, Cuba page. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:23, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you

Hello! I just wanted to say thank you for helping on the Michelle Branch draft The Trouble with Fever. You can probably tell I'm a newbie and I thought I had it all figured out lol. But thanks for taking the time and helping with it instead of just saying reject. TJREY8711 (talk) 18:32, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

TJREY8711, no prob. She's a major artist, so it's inevitable her album will get an article, but I'm just waiting until the details get fleshed out, like when the track listing gets duration time, and people start writing reviews of the album. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:35, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

AngusWOOF Thanks again... and one question, but I'm sure you have it covered, but how do I upload the album cover to the page? Like to have it on the right side like most album pages display? I looked it up on here, but it I still don't understand it. I'm sorry. TJREY8711 (talk) 23:40, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

TJREY8711, are you trying to put it inside the infobox or as a separate picture? Is the album cover picture already in commons? You can look at the other album articles to see how to do so. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 02:32, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Tumbleweed Snowman

Hi Angus- Somehow my page was edited to redirected to another page and I lost all my progress- That is okay though I can redo it. I don't know if you did it on purpose or just clicked the wrong button but I will fix it. Nolan MacLellan (talk) 22:56, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Nolan MacLellan, I merged the information to the Big I since it pertains to that intersection and there was already a writeup about the tumbleweed snowman. If you need to split it out from the interchange, please initiate a split request and gain consensus. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 22:59, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me-

Send me a link to the other article about it if you could, thanks. Nolan MacLellan (talk) 23:01, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Nolan MacLellan, see Big I AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:02, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Angus. Nolan MacLellan (talk) 23:03, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Nolan MacLellan, it kind of needs to be a big deal separately as with Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree. Otherwise it can stay with Big I for now. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:03, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi Again-

Sorry to interrupt if you are currently doing something rightnow-

I couldnt help but notice most people had those popups for example you have the Wikidog one those popups for your profile, I was just wondering if there was any general list of those things, if so please send me it.

Thanks. Nolan MacLellan (talk) 23:19, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Are you talking about the userboxes? You can learn about those at Wikipedia:Userboxes As for the dog emojis in my signature, that or other emojis can be customized in Preferences. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:24, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Nolan MacLellan, why did you restore the separate article for Tumbleweed Snowman? It was already merged into Big I. It doesn't need its own article. If you think that is going to be independently notable, then you can propose a split request, but I don't see why it should. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 08:44, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

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Resurrection (2022) cast edit

Hi, I see that you had made an edit on the Resurrection film entry, regarding Angela Wong Carbone's role as Gwyn being included. You mention her name not getting billing credit on the film poster - but I'm wondering if film poster as source is superseding IMDB entry and film reviews? Her name in the first sentence of the review on the Roger Ebert site that mentions her face and monologue being the film's cold open seems as though it should qualify as a published secondary source on her role. How would you advise this citation be added? There are additional mentions of her role in reviews by Fangoria, New York Times, LA Times, Variety, PASTE Magazine, The Hollywood Reporter, The Washington Post, and others as well as on IFC Film's own website entry for it.

References

Would one source be preferable over another? Thanks! Tothiro (talk) 19:16, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Tothiro, as discussed there before that just means ONE significant role in a significant production. Where is the second or third one? A recurring role of a few episodes in a TV series is not notable. This is why I marked it as WP:TOOSOON. As for the reviews you listed here, you can pick the ones that critique Carbone's work in the film, and not need to show ones where she is merely listed in the credits. ifcfilms.com itself is primary so it wouldn't be needed unless it's to justify the star billing, which you did at the film page. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 22:16, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, but my question was clearly why you felt her name should be removed from the Resurrection (2022) page. If you could help me understand that it would be very instructive. I see that it has also been done repeatedly after your edit suggestion by another IP address located somewhere in Kansas, who seems very insistent on it.

I'm just hoping to understand what could be driving that action. Tothiro (talk) 10:47, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Tothiro, the infobox starring is usually for poster billing names only, as there are plenty more names listed during opening credits billing and other sources. That is why I removed the other names in the first place. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:09, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Oh I see, it was the studio error on the poster which may have been prompting the actions? I understand that logic a little better now, thank you... at least it was corrected. It seems as though it's now just up to Kansas to desist their erroneous revisions. Tothiro (talk) 00:30, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Tothiro, the 2 names can still be removed from the infobox if it still is contentious, but in the rest of the verbiage of the article can mention the 5 since the distributor considers them as starring and wasn't posting their entire cast list there. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 00:52, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022

New Page Review queue August 2022

Hello AngusWOOF,

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Why the topic is declined

Draft:Aditya Tiwari have been created with reliable sources and shows that the topic is notable and of interest of LGBT studies and shouldn't be stopped from inclusion from Wikipedia. There are some strong sources such as https://livewire.thewire.in/gender-and-sexuality/bbc-voices-podcast-aditya-tiwari/ which shows that the topic has gained acclaim. Plushwiki21 (talk) 22:33, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Dark Triad is the inappropriate entry

The Dark triad is an umbrella term (and not even a theory, though the article claims otherwise) for three specific dark traits, Machiavellianism, narcissim, and psychpathy. The Draft:Dark_Factor_of_Personality is neither of these traits, nor is it confined to these traits (but pertains to other aversive traits, such as entitlement, sadism, spitefulness, moral disengagement, etc as well), so the corresponding section in the dark triad article should rather be deleted. And even if the Dark Factor was part of the Dark Triad, your point would be like arguing that the Extraversion entry should be deleted, given that it is part of the Big_Five_personality_traits. 79.253.41.78 (talk) 21:34, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

79.253.41.78, please discuss that at the talk page for Dark triad or issue a split proposal for the term. You can also discuss at WP:PSYCH's main talk page. That the Dark triad page covers the same material you're drafting means it's already got a place on Wikipedia to expand upon. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:37, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

I generally understand your point, but the Dark triad page does not cover the same material. There is no more than a stub on the dark factor, and this should not belong there anyway. 87.141.121.105 (talk) 08:24, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

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Revert

Can you revert this and fill in the sources please? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_youngest_killers&type=revision&diff=1105819626&oldid=1105805957 Shktriib1 (talk) 02:24, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Shktribb1 is a sock of prolific sockmaster Cadeken, who has created dozens of accounts and used even more IPs. See WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Cadeken/Archive. IPs in or near Tulare, California always pop up when a registered sock is blocked. They always deny it, but if there ever was a case that satisfies the WP:DUCK test, this is it. Sundayclose (talk) 14:10, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:AZKi

Hello, AngusWOOF. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "AZKi".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:43, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Hey man im josh, it's okay to delete. i think my name was on it because I moved it from someone else's draft or mainspace article. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 21:27, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Boom skateboarding

Hi there, thanks for helping to review my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Boom_Skateboarding_Company. I started it because here in Australasia, Boom is a famous brand, started in 1992 and deserves some wider recognition and reference. I based the article on a similar brand as this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birdhouse_Skateboards

Can you let me know what else should be done to the article? Just Because ! (talk) 00:30, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Just Because !, please see WP:NCORP and provide at least 2 external news sources that cover the company in depth. The list of skaters can be converted to name case instead of all caps. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 01:10, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks - I have now added more articles - can you check it please? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Boom_Skateboarding_Company Just Because ! (talk) 02:26, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Sophia Gholz

Thank you for your feedback. Changes were made to this page following your suggestions and the page has been resubmitted for review. Create2--!3FG (talk) 16:42, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Create2--!3FG, can you arrange for it to be more biographical? The list of media appearances shouldn't be like that. If she did a media tour for The Boy Who Grew a Forest, then you can include some of her stops and reviews in that section. If the only book she's gotten a bunch of awards is The Boy Who Grew a Forest then you might want to consider creating an article about that instead. Otherwise it is likely to be merged to the Jadav Payeng#In popular culture section, which describes multiple books based on Payeng's life. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:11, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Sapa has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Sapa. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 20:03, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Robert McClenon, thanks, the only thing I did was add (slang) to the title. I can't speak for the quality of the rest of the article. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 13:51, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

User:AngusWOOF - First, if you added a word to the title, you moved/renamed it, and it is your draft. Second, my comment only says anyway that it will need disambiguation if it is accepted. So that is sort of nothing. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:00, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

DCAU Continuity draft article decline

Submission declined on 1 September 2022 by AngusWOOF (talk). "Please discuss at DCAU and gain consensus on whether there should be such a table. Otherwise this is much like trying to make lists of Dragon Ball Z power levels."

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Hi AngisWoof,

I appreciate you taking the time to review my article draft submission. Thank you for safeguarding Wikipedia and ensuring only high quality and useful articles are housed on the site. I see that you declined the article and take your feedback very seriously. I would like to make any updates to the content that you deem necessary to receive approval.

With respect to your viewpoint, I request you to please re-consider. The comparison of this table listing episodes from six separate but inter-woven television series in proper viewing order based on factual data and linked reference citations to that of Dragonball Z power levels is not an apt comparison, those two things are unlike. There is practical need for this resource since no compiled list detailing viewing order for all 6 DCAU connected series yet exists, nor does a dedicated article detailing canonical status of various related IP yet exist, this would be the first. The six DCAU series' main articles list that specific series episodes in a table in date order but provide no guidance for combining all into a unified watch list in proper sequence.

The reason why I wrote this article is because I needed such a resource to guide my viewing experience but no such resource was available, unfortunately. I want to help others avoid this problem and hours of research I had to do by putting all the information one would need in one educational resource.

By declining this submission, current and future DC fans will not be able to refer to this useful and encyclopedic resource on the subject of the DCAU animated series and chronological sequence in which to watch it. Please allow the article to be published, thus allowing the information to be available to the public and improved on by other wikipedia users over time. It truly is of great use and beneficial resource to any person who may consider watching the DCAU. With 14 years of content spread over 6 TV series, it is quite confusing without a guide.

In my view, there is no better way to depict the viewing sequence than in table format. However if your main issue is with the table, I could simplify it by removing some columns, and splitting it into segments (multiple tables), making it easier to read and load. I could also list this information as text, outside of a table, although I do not think that would look very good or be easy for Wikipedia site visitors to read.

I thank you for your consideration and care/concern for people who may be seeking this information. The article was written in honest and good faith out of respect to fellow fans.

Appreciate you and the work you do.

Sincerely, JGott85 JGott85 (talk) 21:55, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

JGott85, as I said, please discuss with the folks who are editing the DCAU pages. If there's a wikiproject for DCAU, or whether it's just the DACU page itself. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 22:57, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Ok will do, I'll report back once the folks editing the DCAU pages have provided feedback. Thank you AngusWoof for your help and direction. JGott85 (talk) 23:36, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

JGott85, my main concern is whether it was getting into WP:FANCRUFT as there are things such as "Timeline of Star Trek" or "Timeline of Middle-Earth" although for Star Trek it sometimes makes sense given there are so many series jumbled about. That's why I suggested working with the DCAU editors to see whether such content would be relevant or overly fan-based and not encyclopedic for general Wikipedia. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 01:15, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

AngusWoof, on September 6 I attempted to discuss with the folks editing the main DCAU page as you directed. I also solicited feedback from the folks at the WikiProject Comics/DC Comics work group, but no one has replied on either page as of yet. I totally understand your concern about Fancruft, and understand your DBZ reference and Star Trek Timeline reference in relation to that now. I will reiterate my point of view that the table depicting chronological viewing order is not Fancruft. To contrast with your two examples cited, DBZ Power Levels and Star Trek timeline are story elements of the fictional content from within the series narrative itself. Providing excessive detail about that type of information quite literally may be content only relevant to a small population of enthusiastic fans. In this instance, the DCAU viewing order table is just trying to help people stitch together hundreds of episodes from multiple separate but related TV series into proper viewing order, which is factual info. A person can't sort by production numbers, each series has their own numbers, and some episodes were produced out of narrative order. You can't view in original air-date order which was wildly out of sequence. It's not spelled out anywhere exactly where films fit in relative to the episodes. Due to false expectation of series cancellation, the actual finale of the whole collection of series is actually the last episode of the 2nd to last season of the 8th series. These are just a few examples of atypical or complicating factors inherent with these IP's chronology that can mess up someone's attempt to watch them in narrative sequence. It is reasonable for a person interested in the IP wanting to sit down and watch the collection of series to want to view it in a chronological order per creator intent, and seems like the kind of content someone would seek out Wikipedia for. I believe the table is encyclopedic in nature and aligns to the spirit of what Wikipedia is for. Kindly request you permit the article to proceed with publication, get the info out there and let it be molded and perfected by others as time goes on. Thanks. JGott85 (talk) 05:37, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

JGott85, again, I would check with the other editors familiar with DCAU or DCU to see if such an effort is worth it. For example, the anime television series The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya is well known for presenting a really scrambled broadcast order. Same with Pulp Fiction / Kill Bill movies, so there are even external news articles that try to reorder the series of events or make it canon. Same with like the four gospels for the Christian bible; extensive research and publications have been made to figure out and present the chronology. So if a similar effort is made in DCAU by other publishers and writers (not fandom wikias or fan websites), then you can cite those. Also, If the TV series is meant to be episodic for the most part, with episodes being able to be watched in any order except for a few cliffhangers and multi-parters, then there doesn't need to be such an effort. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:25, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Article needs to be cleaned up from the merge

Hi, thank you for the review on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Paris_Paris_(TV_series). I am a newcomer on Wikipedia. What do you mean with your comment: Article needs to be cleaned up from the merge.

Thank you" Sincerely. Zukerman rayne (talk) 14:05, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Zukerman rayne, there was another Paria Paris draft article that I combined with the one submitted so you need to decide which text you want to keep. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 14:09, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Zukerman rayne, this looks like it was put in mainspace now. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 13:53, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Update on "The Trouble of Fever" page.

Hello, I just wanted to let you know that I have updated the Trouble with Fever page and hoping you are okay with the things that I added. You took time in this article yourself so I wanted to come to you directly. Please feel free to make changes.

I'm on the fence about moving the "During an interview with Nylon in September 2021" part in the background section. I'm thinking it might make more sense now to go under the "Promo and release" section of the page. But I will let you be the judge of that.

😊 🐶 TJREY8711 (talk) 01:56, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

TJREY8711, you can rearrange to promotion/release if it helps, or leave it in development. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 13:27, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Please help me with a move of the article

Hi. I have never made a move, so please help me change the name of the article to Panmure Gordon. In the past it was named correctly, but after a redirect was made. I can't move it anymore. Thx Tysska (talk) 15:32, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Tysska, it looks like it was already moved but if you have other articles that need a technical move you can go to WP:RM/TR. If it's a move that needs to be discussed with others see WP:Move Request. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 13:39, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

AngusWOOF, it has already been moved, thanks for the advice, I will keep it in mind in the future.--Tysska (talk) 14:54, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

NPP Award for 2018

		The New Page Patroller's Barnstar
		For over 100 article reviews during 2018. Thank you for patrolling new pages and helping us out with the backlog! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:36, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Here is a barnstar to show appreciation for the NPP reviews you did back in 2018. We realize this is late, but NPP fell behind in some coordination activities. We have just caught up with giving out deserved barnstars. Also, we notice you haven't been very active here recently, and hope you will consider increasing your participation. The backlog is relatively high and we could really use your help. Regardless, thanks again for your past effort. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:36, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

MPGuy2824, thanks for posting the Barnstar. I've been more active on the AFC side, but if you need me to screen some more on NPP side let me know. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:12, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Currently, AFC has a backlog of ~2,500, whereas NPP has a backlog of ~9,500. If you could spend some of your time on NPP reviews, it would be great. You might also consider participating in the upcoming October 2022 backlog drive. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:38, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Vesper_(2022_film)

Hi! Thanks a bunch for reviewing my article so quickly! I've tried hard to add a lot of sources in English and expand the reception section. I've left the review score for Allociné, as it's the most commonly-used critic score in France, and France is the only country so far where the movie has been released. I don't know if I'm supposed to translate part of the reviews in French, as I'm not sure they'll mean a lot to English Wikipedia readers (like Le Monde, Le Figaro, Télérama, etc.). Anyways, it's been resubmitted for review so don't hesitate if you have any feedback when you have the time! Thanks in advance. Mictateur (talk) 12:44, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Mictateur, yes, you can cite the major French newspapers and magazines and offer a translation of some of their comments as part of the Reception section. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:14, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for your answer! I've removed the aggregate review scores and added a couple of (translated) excerpts from French reviews. Mictateur (talk) 12:30, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Request on 00:56:20, 11 September 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Jaltschuld

• Jaltschuld (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Jackie Altschuld (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Per your review it is cited in article 6 about playing with san diego wave fc

Jaltschuld (talk) 00:56, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Jaltschuld, a few things:

• If you are associated with Altschuld, please read WP:AUTOBIO and disclose such information WP:COI.
• For the San Diego FC references, please present news articles where she actually played or get her cap/app. Same with her other former clubs.
• The infobox should be redone to include her other senior/professional league club asssociations. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:03, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Jaltschuld, I went ahead and accepted the article after digging through some of the soccer records databases. It still needs more external news sources. Please note that if you are associated with the player you should disclose that, see WP:COI on how to do so. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 13:53, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

MERKUR Stahlwaren GmbH & Co. KG

Hello AngusWOOF,

2 days ago I had submitted an article about the German company MERKUR Stahlwaren GmbH & Co. KG. Kindly you had reviewed my article very quickly. You pointed out to me that this company already has an article under the name DOVO. Thanks to this tip, I discovered a misinformation. According to Wikipedia, the company DOVO (https://en.+wikipedia.+org/wiki/DOVO_Solingen) owns MERKUR Stahlwaren GmbH as a subsidiary which is wrong. Both companies are completely independent of each other, as it can be seen, for example, by the fact that both have prepared their own annual financial statements with different figures. See: MERKUR: https://www.northdata.de/Merkur+Stahlwaren+GmbH+%26+Co.+KG,+Solingen/Amtsgericht+Wuppertal+HRA+20249 and see: DOVO: https://www.northdata.de/%3E%3EDOVO%3C%3C+Stahlwaren+BRACHT+GmbH+%26+Co.+KG,+Solingen/Amtsgericht+Wuppertal+HRA+19%20407 . In addition, MERKUR, as an independent company, has made several trademark applications, which can be found at:

https://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/marke/registerHABM?AKZ=017873454&CURSOR=0

https://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/marke/register/3020080538945/DE

https://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/marke/registerIR?AKZ=1009202&CURSOR=2

https://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/marke/register/3020080538937/DE

https://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/marke/register/3020171093008/DE .

Both independent companies were only owned (not anymore) by the same shareholder family. DOVO only sold a few MERKUR products, but did not manufacture them itself.

I have already corrected and updated the Wikipedia article of DOVO.

Now that the misinformation has been corrected, I would be happy, if you could take another look at my article about the MERKUR Stahlwaren GmbH & Co. KG(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Merkur_Stahlwaren).

Thank you very much - @ChristianBarnes

ChristianBarnes (talk) 16:09, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

ChristianBarnes, thanks, if you can put that information about their relationship into the article and support it with references, that would help. Something like, "From xxxx to xxxx, the company was held by (shareholder family) who also owned the razor company Dovo Solingen. It was then sold to (new shareholder)" Also check with WP:NCORP and find some more external news sources that cover the organization in detail. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello @AngusWOOF, thank you for the quick reply. I have now supplemented the information. I also added more sources. I have resubmitted the draft and would be pleased if it could be published now. (Draft:Merkur Stahlwaren)

Best regards and thanks for the tips.

Christian ChristianBarnes (talk) 09:40, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello @AngusWOOF, as you recommended me I have improved the article and now I am quite curious to be honest. I'd really appreciate if you can release the article. I put a lot of work into the research and the draft and would be quite happy to see its published. Thank you so much and have a nice day. ChristianBarnes (talk) 11:23, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

ChristianBarnes, any of the AFC reviewers can look over the article. It doesn't have to be me. I put a message there that it is okay for it to be separate from Dovo. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 13:51, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Okay thank you. So the message from you is enough? I just ask because in the red box above the draft it still says "Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at DOVO Solingen instead.". So I just wanted to ask, if this also needs to be removed or is your second message enough? Thank you again. ChristianBarnes (talk) 14:45, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

ChristianBarnes, the AFC reviewers can see the comments; they won't be distracted by previous declines. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:32, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Zappeion tram stop

Hello, I have two comments to make:

1. I disagree with the moving of Zappeion tram stop to Zappio, because of the naming conventions. I am following the naming convention "[Name] tram stop". Also, the transliteration on the signage is not always right.
2. I disagree with the article not being notable, mainly because I come from London, and as far as I know, all the Croydon Tramlink and Luas stops have their own articles.

What are your thoughts on this? --Minoa (talk) 15:38, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Minoa, Zappio is what the train map references provided by STASY that list the Greek and the English names are calling it that in English, so I am using WP:NCGN#Use English. Are you saying the signage with the English on it is actually printed as Zappeion? Also, I'm not the editor that tagged notability for the station. You may want to ask Fram about it. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:31, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Map links

• http://www.cityrailtransit.com/maps/athens_map.htm
• https://web.archive.org/web/20220916164858/https://stasy.gr/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Stasy_Map.jpg
• https://web.archive.org/web/20040722131435/http://linuxweb.internet.gr/tramsa/html/gr/diadromes.php?id=1

Hope that helps. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 19:03, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I apologise for sounding too pushy, but I chose "Zappeion" based on the name of the building that it serves. If you believe that Zappio should be the name of the stop, then I think we can reach a compromise by naming it as "Zappio tram stop". What do you think? -Minoa (talk) 18:56, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Minoa, currently there aren't any other landmarks that go by Zappio, so it wouldn't be needed, but you can make a Zappio tram stop as a redirect. You could also put in a {{distinguish}} hatnote so it isn't confused with Zappos. Zappeion tram stop is fine to keep as a redirect as well as Zappeion (tram stop). AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 19:03, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Hmm, an interesting theory there, but in my opinion, I am reluctant to omit "tram stop" in the context of Luas, Nottingham NET and Tramlink stops having "Luas stop" and "tram stop" respectively, unless they are part of an multi-modal interchange. For example: Harrington Road tram stop and Cheeverstown Luas stop, which both do not have articles about other places that go by said names. At least I am happy to allow the Zappio part of the name stand. --Minoa (talk) 19:33, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Minoa, Harrington Road was a disambiguation, but since the other link is a redlink, I have boldly redirected this to the tram stop. As for Cheeverstown Luas stop, there is a Cheerverstown that is redirected to the list of towns, so that town is possibly a primary topic for the disambiguation, so adding "Luas stop" would be ok there. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 22:16, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I will think about this when my mind isn't too busy, but my opinion is that the article name should be "Zappio tram stop" as a matter of naming consistency. However, I will not move the page until there is consensus, otherwise it's pointless edit warring (which is an absolute no-no). Best, --Minoa (talk) 09:17, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Minoa, it's okay to add tram stop to the name, as I think most folks will think Zappeion the district for Zappio. I'll see if I can move it there. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:51, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, and I am sorry if I sounded harsh at any point. I think adding Gabor Sandi’s research should boost its notability in the context of local history. I might add more because I hear that the stop was planned to be somewhere else if it had not been for Hadrian's Arch. --Minoa (talk) 19:48, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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