Template:Did you know nominations/Prostitution in Vietnam
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The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:35, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Prostitution in Vietnam[edit]
- ... that the children of Vietnamese prostitutes and American servicemembers from the Vietnam War era are known as Bui doi, and are often forced into prostitution themselves?
- Reviewed: Carrier Strike Group Seven
Created/expanded by Ktr101 (talk), La Pianista (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 23:18, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this and the article say "were" instead of "was"? The youngest of these mixed race Vietnam war kids would be at least 36 years old. PumpkinSky talk 20:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- The Bui Doi article notes that there are no racial implications from the term. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:19, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- In my opinion, "were" makes it sound like they are all dead, when most of them are still alive. Crisco, I could fix that as I did find an article which mentioned hatred of Bui Doi. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 17:36, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
The 5x expansion checks out. The article is rather weak overall, but I believe it will be adequate with the addition of sourcing for (1) the two strongly worded unsourced statements that I marked in the article and (2) the section titled "The Tale of Kieu." There is some close paraphrasing of U.S. State Department public-domain sources, but I did not see similar issues with any of the sources covered by copyright. The hook fact is supported, but I suggest rewording to focus it on the topic of the article and make the past tense verb work better:
- ALT1 ... that the children of Vietnamese prostitutes and American servicemembers from the Vietnam War were often forced into prostitution themselves? --Orlady (talk) 18:20, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
- Much better. PumpkinSky talk 23:48, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help! I have added the link to Bui doi in there as well, as it might as well be included. Thanks, again! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:44, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Also, wouldn't it be better to have "are" instead of "were", as at 36, it is still possible to be forced into prostitution by the government. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:45, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- The article and the source (dated 2005) both discuss this in the past tense. It may still be ongoing, but we can't verify that. (And it's unlikely that people in their late 30s and 40s are currently being forced into prostitution.)
- Before this goes to the main page, can the "citation needed" template be cleared up? --Orlady (talk) 03:58, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Sure, although I might just axe the sentence as all the Google results are in Vietnamese (although, I could ask Pianista to help, as she speaks it). Kevin Rutherford (talk) 20:53, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
