Talk:The Base (hate group)

This article was nominated for deletion on 10 January 2020. The result of the discussion was speedy keep.

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Other refs[edit]

Here are some sources in case anyone wants to start expanding this article before I can find the time to do it:

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/search/?keywords=Patrik+Mathews&searchSubmitted=y&sortBy=-startDate
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/homegrown-hate-547510902.html
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/8xwwaa/neo-nazi-terror-group-harbouring-missing-ex-soldier-patrik-mathews-sources
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a30148485/the-base-right-wing-militia-smuggle-canadian-border/
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/bjwx55/militant-neo-nazi-group-actively-recruiting-ahead-of-alleged-training-camp
https://www.google.ca/search?q=%22patrik+mathews%22+%22the+base%22&source=lmns&tbm=nws&bih=722&biw=1112&client=safari&hl=en-GB&ved=2ahUKEwjpybKoqr_mAhUP06wKHWYnBnEQ_AUoAnoECAEQAg

-- Rrburke (talk) 13:21, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another more recent one: "3 Alleged Members Of Hate Group 'The Base' Arrested In Georgia, Another In Wisconsin". This is a different incident than the three guys arrested a few days earlier in Maryland. Bitter Oil (talk) 17:18, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Norman Spear/Rinaldo Nazzaro[edit]

Two recent articles about the identity and location of "Norman Spear".

Guardian: Revealed: the true identity of the leader of an American neo-Nazi terror group (archive)
BBC: Neo-Nazi Rinaldo Nazzaro running US militant group The Base from Russia (archive)

Bitter Oil (talk) 16:33, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they are already being used.Slatersteven (talk) 17:39, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another source[edit]

https://www.informant.news/p/cracking-open-the-base -- Rrburke (talk) 00:00, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And yet another: Prepping for a race war: documents reveal inner workings of neo-Nazi group ([https://archive.ph/7QJzJ archive). Bitter Oil (talk) 18:21, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

August 2019 censorship of PLATFORM article[edit]

I had tried to make an article about this 6 months ago:

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Base (platform)

This article was created in December, ~4 months afterward, ~2 months ago.

Should The Base (platform) redirect to this current page, or should we have separate articles about the group itself vs the web interface it was using?

Special:Diff/923796097 shows how in October someone also tried to add info but it was reverted with "Bitter Oil" implying that the deletion of the article (and removal of disambig) was motivated by the perception that anyone trying to document this group were Nazis, which is an undeserved attack on our editor base.

BO nominated this page for deletion in January as well: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Base (hate group). It's concerning why BO seemed to be trying to minimize this ("run of the mill, small") despite it's coverage. Olivia comet (talk) 21:56, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt they are independently notable, thus no I do not think we need two articles on a minor hate group and its activities. No it should not be a redirect to here as a google search of "The Base (platform)" brings up a number of unrelated hits.Slatersteven (talk) 23:04, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I dont follow this argument against a redirect? You mean in terms of SEO? The "deletion page" will still show, even if it's not a redirect. In any case, this ain't "censorship", if an editor wants to restore it and find any relevant content, there's only a few sentences there, go ahead. tedder (talk) 03:40, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The argument is that the term (name) "The Base (platform)" is not solely (and I am not sure even significantly) associated with this group (the base) or its web platform. In fact a google search does not even bring up the web service as a hit on the first page, nor goes a news search. This tells me that if most users do a search for "The Base (platform)" it is more then likely they are not looking for the web platform. Thus a redirect to here would not take them to where they wish to go.Slatersteven (talk) 09:09, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How many members?[edit]

Without numbers this article is pointless. Is this 3 guys and their dog or 1 million members or somewhere in between? Without that we cannot access its importance and may just be a scare article. Rustygecko (talk) 09:16, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Green Brigade[edit]

The link in the lede to Green Brigade goes to a Wiki article titled Ecofascism. The term Green Brigade does not even occur in that article. In no way ought readers to confuse this term with the article Green Brigade: this article details a football suporters' Ultras group which, although sometimes typified as antisocial, is far from being right wing; and indeed has supported such causes as Palestinian nationalism and Black Lives Matter. Nuttyskin (talk) 20:19, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from this I assume "The Swedish self-identified ecofascist Green Brigade is an eco-terrorist group linked to The Base that is responsible for multiple mass murder plots. The Green Brigade has been responsible for arson attacks against targets deemed to be enemies of nature,[7][82] like an attack on a mink farm that caused multi-million-dollar damages. Two members were arrested by Swedish police, allegedly planning assassinating judges and bombings.["? Slatersteven (talk) 20:21, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]