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Stanier Black Fives[edit]

The number of Stanier Black Fives built in BR times is given as 100, but the locos identified by their numbers add up to only 80. Which is correct? Senex (talk) 21:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well spotted. There is a table in LMS Stanier Class 5 4-6-0. Check against that? Tony May (talk) 22:53, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that article suggests that the missing 20 were built under Lot 192 at Crewe in 1948, so I presume they are BR-built as well and will alter the article to reflect that. Unless someone knows different. Senex (talk) 21:58, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Any Dean Goods returned?[edit]

I just deleted this question from the 'Locomotives acquired from the War Department' section maybee someone here can answer it Oxyman24 (talk) 18:19, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

War Department locos[edit]

Serious errors in this section. The Ex-LNER O7 locos formerly numbered from 63000 to 63199 became 90000 to 90199. And what about the J94 0-6-0s? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Williamgeorgefraser (talk • contribs) 21:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

End of steam[edit]

Someone wants a citation for the end of steam in 1968. Ho hum.

http://www.lostockhallmpd.org.uk/grandfinale.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/content/articles/2008/08/06/history_end_of_steam_1968_feature.shtml
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/nostalgia/dying-days-at-the-end-of-steam-965464
Longworth, Hugh. British Railways Steam Locomotives 1948 - 1968 (2 ed.). Oxford Publishing Co. ISBN 978-0860936602.
Priestly, Mike (2011). Train Spotters: A Personal Countdown to the End of Steam on BR in 1968. Copuntywise. ISBN 978-1906823542.
Morrison, Gavin (2013). The Last Decade of British Railways Steam. J H Haynes & Co. ISBN 978-0857332776.
Nock, O S (1984). From the Footplate: Reminiscences of the Last Years of Steam. HarperCollins. ISBN 978-0246121103.
Siviter, Roger (2004). Farewell to Steam. The History press. ISBN 978-0750935005.
The Last Steam Service - 15 Guineas Special 11 August 1968. National Railway Musuem. - Commentary by Sir John Betjeman.

Some things are well-known, and to ask for citations for them would be like asking for a citation that the sky is blue. Pick one of those, or one of several thousand others, if you will. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 11:14, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is for the general public, not for specialists. It's perfectly reasonable to ask for a reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.70.86.228 (talk) 07:32, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did the Great Western try to sabotage BR by building hundreds of pannier tank locomotives.[edit]

That seems to be the implication of this...

Great Western management was opposed to nationalisation and built many pannier tanks, resulting in a surplus of them. 452 locomotives were built to ex-GWR designs, of which 341 were pannier tanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.70.86.228 (talk) 07:34, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Appropriate first photo? - GWR Grange[edit]

Is the photo of an ex GWR Grange class loco (I understand the final one was built in 1939) relevant of be included in a page describing BR built locomotives? (ie post-1948) Andywebby (talk) 17:36, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Andywebby: The article is not just about BR built locomotives; indeed, the second sentence of the first paragraph makes that clear. There are also sections titled Locomotives inherited from constituent companies and Locomotives acquired from the War Department which are not about BR-built locos. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:48, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Redrose64: My bad - thanks for clarifying - on first glance at the page title I took the page to mean those locos built by BR to pre-nationalisation designs as well as the BR 'Standards' but now I look again (properly this time!) I see what you mean. Andywebby (talk) 12:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious unsubstantiated livery claims.[edit]

Another lightly referenced article by a bunch of railway enthusiasts who "just know" what's right, and feel they have no need to make claims easy to verify. 59.148.180.109 (talk) 04:40, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]