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Previous mass shooting[edit]

The lead paragraph says "It was the first fatal mass shooting in the UK since the 2010 Cumbria shootings." Wouldn't the most recent previous one be the Horden shooting, or is there something I'm missing? Cheers, RadiculousJ (talk) 19:44, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there is no independent source to support the Cumbria claim. I have removed it until sourced. WWGB (talk) 03:26, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Type of gun[edit]

Re this edit: news reports from the coroner's inquest in January 2023 said that it was a Weatherby pump action shotgun, [1] but did not say that it was a Weatherby PA-459. It was already known that the weapon used in the shooting was a pump action shotgun, but the exact make and model is not a key issue. ♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 09:30, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The picture of the shotgun was released by the UK Police It's a Weatherby PA-459. I was able to identify it fairly easy Xtort2004 (talk) 13:11, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've just found a couple of different Weatherby models online that look similar to the photo released. How do we know which one it is without applying WP:OR? The point is, unless a WP:RS has specified which particular model it was, we cannot verify and should not include it. As ianmacm says above, the exact make and model doesn't really matter – "Weatherby pump action shotgun" is both verifiable and sufficient. MIDI (talk) 13:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's been reverted as classic WP:OR. The gun may well be a PA-459, but the news coverage at the inquest said only that it was a Weatherby pump action shotgun.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 13:41, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear phrasing[edit]

The article says:

At 18:05 BST (UTC+1) on 12 August 2021, during a physical altercation, victim Maxine Davison, perpetrator Jake Davison's 51-year-old mother, contacted her sister regarding the argument.

What argument? There's no mention of any arguments before that sentence. Should it say "an argument"? Or is there text missing before that sentence? Nakonana (talk) 02:25, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Same issue with the following sentence:

At 18:23, as further police arrived, Davison shot himself on Henderson Place.

There's no previous mention of police arriving, so the word "further" doesn't make sense here. Nakonana (talk) 02:39, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]