Talk:Ontario Highway 71

US 71?

There's been some dispute in the past as to whether the route of Highway 71 has been truncated at Chapple, or still continues eastward as a multiplex with Highway 11 to meet US-71 at the Fort Frances-International Falls Bridge. Sources seem to be conflicting on this — there's no question that it used to continue to the bridge, but there's some confusion as to whether it still does or not. Can anybody clarify or confirm? Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 03:17, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

MapArt says it does in thew 2007 edition of Thunder Bay/Kenora/Dryden/Fort Frances, and they did some big updates to Thunder Bay on that map so I assume they'd have double checked that? Could be wrong though, they have a tendency to fuck up. That probably wasn't helpful at all but I tried. :( vıdıoman (talk • contribs) 16:19, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

It does still according to the MTO route logs. The short block of Central from Highway 11 to Church in Fort Frances is part of Highway 71. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 05:08, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Pzoxicuvybtnrm (talk · contribs) 06:01, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   The lead should probably be expanded to encompass the history section, which it currently does not.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   Can you explain this whole issue about the images and their status in various countries?

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   I will place the article on hold for a minor issue.

Thank you for the review! I will expanded the lead to summarize the history very shortly. I don't think I can do justice in explaining it, but know that photos licenced under {{PD-Canada}} are accepted on Commons if the copyright expired by 1996 (because if any Disney films become public domain the world will end... probably also the reason the US hasn't adopted the rule of the shorter term), as Commons is based in the US. Pictures taken by government employees on duty are placed under Crown Copyright, which expires 50 years after the image is first published (all my old photos are out of Annual reports or archival collections which explicitly date the photos).

Personally, I ignore this caveat. If its public domain in Canada, I upload it, because it wasn't published in the US and because its not a product of America. In all honesty, I'm not entirely sure of the U.S. status of the 1951 photo, and it'd be better for someone more informed to make such a call. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 17:33, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

So I've done more research, but still can't get a clear answer. Copyright renewal in the U.S was applied to anything not in the public domain on January 1, 1996... However, the crown copyright for Canada is pretty clear: The copyright of works produced by the government expire after 50 years. This is an explicit statement from the copyright holder, which I believe would supercede general copyright law. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 18:15, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't think I'll hold the article back on the issue, but if some expert on the issue hops along hopefully they can deal with it. — PCB 02:50, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I've brought it up at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, and the only reply seems to make sense... If the governments own copyright term says it expires after 50 years then that should apply everywhere, not just in Canada. I just expanded the lead, so check that out as well. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 03:59, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. I will now pass the article. — PCB 04:58, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

speed limit(s) & topology

Practically speaking, it would be very helpful to know what the speed limit is, whether it is single or double lane and what the topology of the highway is like (rolling hills? steep climbs? etc.) and other relevant info for people considering taking this route. 192.30.233.131 (talk) 20:42, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Great River Road

Why no mention of this being a former extension of the Great River Road? --NE2 07:04, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I believe I didn't include it because I had trouble finding sources other than the plaque located on the highway ([1]). Do you have any sources that would be better? Also, as far as the unsourced and challenged entry at List of Ontario Tourist Routes#Great River Road claims, it kinda looped around in Ontario... however that plaque seems to contradict that idea and claims it ended in Minaki, Ontario. Tl;dr: confusion. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 15:54, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Name

It'd be nice if the article actually explained what the "King's Highway" name meant. (Or at least gave a link that wasn't way at the bottom in the navbox.) --Paul_012 (talk) 08:00, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

It's just the official name of Ontario's main highway system — the distinction in Ontario is between "King's" and "secondary" highways (which are basically just county roads in the parts of the province where there isn't a county system to maintain county roads), not between "King's" and "non-King's" highways per se. So there's no standalone "King's Highway" article to link to separately from the basic overview article about Ontario's highway system that this article already links to as it is. Bearcat (talk) 15:47, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

It's kind of a reverse WP:EGG situation, though, since the reader wondering what a King's highway is won't know that the answer is in that article. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:08, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

It would be rather repetitive to have to explain the history of the network naming in every highway article. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 03:36, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

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