Talk:Nintendocore

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Notability comment[edit]

Ok, Nintendocore is the primary genre of a very notable band. Popularity or the amount of info on the page don't need to be considered when determining notability. Various other bands have also begun playing/recording Nintendocore music, so it IS notable enough for a page.--71.30.79.244 (talk) 00:34, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't logged in when I put that comment, but it was me just so you know =) --♫ Chris-B-Koolio ♫ ... (Talk) 00:35, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Band?[edit]

Isn't NintendoCore the name of a band? see here. I believe they would obviously fit into the genre they named themselves after. Torchiest (talk | contribs) 18:13, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I checked them out. They don't ever use vocals, only remixed Nintendo songs with metalcore instrumentation. So they are Nintendocore (the genre, lol), just a little different. See this song to see what I'm talking about. If you could find a suitable way to put them on the page, that would be cool.--♫ Chris-B-Koolio ♫ ... (Talk) 18:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A band associating themselves with a paticular genre is quite obviously not appropriate either. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 22:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Here's something that might be an interesting comparison. Look at the article for Throbbing Gristle. They basically coined the term industrial, and even named their record label after it. We can't doing any WP:CRYSTALing here, but it could be that later on this genre will be more notable. It's just not quite where it needs to be yet. Torchiest talk/contribs 13:03, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

MOVED PAGE[edit]

Alright, the page now redirects to a section on Horse the Band. see here —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisbkoolio (talk • contribs) 13:48, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion[edit]

The page is a stub, lack of sources. WP:N and WP:V. Most likely a fan of Horse the band insisting to call the band nintendocore just like how HIM fans keep doing it for Love metal. Please do not remove the tag until you have an explaination based on wikipedia policies. 94.182.160.173 (talk) 16:45, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New York Times[edit]

There is an online NYT article about Nintendo rock and The Advantage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/29/technology/resurrecting-the-riffs-a-nintendo-rock-band.html?pagewanted=2&src=pm

I'll add some of this information into the "history" section when I get the chance.

♫ Chris-B-Koolio ♫ ... (Talk) 02:14, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That is really nice.--3family6 (talk) 02:45, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Origin, or influence?[edit]

Alright, the opening paragraph mentions the various genres that originated Nintendocore. Of course, Horse the band coined the term and hence started the genre, but as is referenced in the characteristics section, Nintendocore can be used to describe a variety of styles. With that being said, I don't think it's appropriate to list hardcore punk, post-hardcore, metalcore, and screamo as stylistic origins of Nintendocore. The references only note that individual Nintendocore groups are influenced by those genres. I'll have to take a second look at the references before editing, but i don't think Nintendocore emerged from a variety of genres, including hardcore punk, metalcore, post-hardcore, and screamo is correct. It may be more proper to say Nintendocore practitioners are often influenced by a variety of genres, including hardcore punk, metalcore, post-hardcore, and screamo. --♫ Chris-B-Koolio ♫ ... (Talk) 20:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Both the references after "hardcore punk" say that Nintendocore is formed or defined by fusing hardcore and video game music / 8-bit music. So hardcore punk should remain an origin.--♫ Chris-B-Koolio ♫ ... (Talk) 20:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I double-checked all of those at least once because of the debates on other articles, and as far as I can tell, all of those should be there.--3family6 (talk) 20:34, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Allmusic also defines Nintendocore as a "post-hardcore subgenre," so post-hardcore also stays for sure. And I'm not suggesting that the other genres shouldn't be mentioned, I just don't know if they should be considered origin genres. I mean, The Advantage (and most of the other groups referenced as Nintendocore) can hardly be representatives of a metalcore genre. In fact, they have absolutely no relation to metalcore. Just some Nintendocore groups do. --♫ Chris-B-Koolio ♫ ... (Talk) 20:41, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is the current intro

Nintendocore (also referred to as Nintendo rock, video rock, or nerdcore) is a music genre that fuses elements of modern rock with video game music, chiptunes, and 8-bit music. Nintendocore emerged from a variety of genres, including hardcore punk, metalcore, post-hardcore, and screamo.

And this is my suggestion

Nintendocore (also referred to as Nintendo rock, video rock, or nerdcore) is a music genre that fuses elements of modern rock with video game music, chiptunes, and 8-bit music. Nintendocore emerged from hardcore punk and post-hardcore, and has been influenced by a variety of other genres, including post-rock, metalcore, and screamo.

Post-rock, noise rock, dance punk, and nu-metal are even mentioned in some of those sources, but they clearly aren't origins, instead some Nintendocore groups have been influenced by those genres. --♫ Chris-B-Koolio ♫ ... (Talk) 20:45, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree on metalcore. The references given specifically call Nintendocore a metalcore fusion, not just Horse the Band's version. The screamo refs might not be as strong however.--3family6 (talk) 21:02, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Quotes for metalcore: "Horse The Band’s vortex of contorted roars, metal-core hysterics, esoteric video game references, and crusty 8-bit-style synth became inextricably linked to the nebulous genre" and "noted for their unique sound of metal-meets-eight-bit-Nintendo, which had been deemed 'Nintendocore.'" Quotes for screamo: "Occupying a storage bin marked "Nintendocore" (their characterization) -- which sits on a shelf between screamo and hardcore" and "Sometimes referred to as “Nerdcore,” Nintendocore utilizes electric guitars, drum kits and other typical instruments you would find in a rock band, only with the addition of electro-beats and 8-bit. Throw in some screamo and presto!"--3family6 (talk) 21:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. Metalcore, yes. I'm still not so sure about screamo. No doubt it influenced the genre, but it is not an origin. Right after this comment I'll adjust the page. --♫ Chris-B-Koolio ♫ ... (Talk) 21:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Metalcore as it is in this decade has a direct relation with Screamo/Emotional Hardcore/Post-hardcore. So it comes full-circle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.52.40.60 (talk) 03:24, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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