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Rahul Gabdhi is not the opposition leader. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.142.67.224 (talk) 07:20, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Change page name

Change the name of page from Next Indian general election to 2024 Indian general election. Nitesh003 (talk) 10:28, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 6 March 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 20:39, 13 March 2021 (UTC)


Next Indian general election → 2024 Indian general election – After the election it won't be the "Next general election" Dr Salvus (talk) 15:28, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

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Opinion polls

Add opinion polls in main template. Nitesh003 (talk) 11:26, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2021

2402:8100:24CA:4FC0:D8A6:7252:CBA8:8A4B (talk) 21:39, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

infletion price of petrol and diesel price privatization farmer bill covid 19 democracy supremecourt

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — IVORK Talk 01:56, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2021

Spaces for more parties should be there except INC and BJP. 111.91.11.218 (talk) 07:15, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -- DaxServer (talk) 10:56, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Consensus for Aam Aadmi Party

Let us have a consensus as to whether AAP should be included under potential candidates? The latest version which included it is at Special:PermanentLink/1026696817. (@AS Sayyad: Pinging editor who removed it at Special:Diff/1026839888)

In February 2020, Aam Aadmi Party started an outreach program asking citizens to provide inputs for nation-building, setting Arvind Kejriwal as a potential prime ministerial candidate.[1] Arvind Kejriwal was also the 2014 Prime Ministerial candidate for AAP.[2]

References

  1. ^ "Arvind Kejriwal vs Narendra Modi in 2024? AAP releases poster for nation building". Business Today. 11 February 2020. Archived from the original on 26 January 2021. Retrieved 22 May 2021.
  2. ^ DelhiJanuary 4, IANS New; January 8, 2014UPDATED; Ist, 2014 22:32. "AAP wants Arvind Kejriwal as PM candidate, says Yogendra Yadav". India Today. Retrieved 2021-05-27. {{cite web}}: |first3= has numeric name (help)CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)

Are there any new updates as if he won't be a potential candidate? -- DaxServer (talk) 16:39, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2021

Add the political parties Pattali Makkal Katchi, Tamil Maanila Congress, All India NR Congress, Bharath Dharma Jana Sena, United People's Party (Liberal) in the list of National Democratic Alliance parties 1.186.76.18 (talk) 04:36, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:13, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2021

Add Pattali Makkal Katch in NDA parties. 1.186.76.18 (talk) 07:36, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:55, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 August 2021

Add political party Pattali Makkal Katchi in National Democratic Alliance. Add poltical party Shiv Sena in parties in no coalition. Source-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Democratic_Alliance_members1.186.76.18 (talk) 11:22, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Wikipedia itself is not a reliable source. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:30, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 6 September 2021

Please un-link the section heading: "Left Front (India)", as:

  1. it goes to a disambiguation page, so has been tagged [disambiguation needed]; and
  2. per MOS:NOSECTIONLINKS, links in headings are considered undesirable.

i.e Please change from [[Left front (India)]], untagging the "disambiguation needed" to " Left front (India) ", and, as an alternative, adding beneath, if wanted:

For related alliances of political parties within India, see Left Front (disambiguation).

(or similar template). Thank you. 49.177.6.159 (talk) 01:49, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

 Done - FlightTime (open channel) 01:56, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 September 2021

Add All India Forward Bloc, Socialist Unity Centre of India(Communist),Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) Liberation, Revolutionary Socialist Party (West Bengal) in Left Front and Peasants and Workers Party of India (PWPI). 1.186.77.18 (talk) 03:17, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. You need to provide more information than just names of parties. We need sourcing for them, and who is standing for the elections, and evidence they are notable. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:58, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Grammar Error

sorry for the error!
Kpddg (talk) 12:53, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Change the map of India on this page

Why is the particular map of India, showing scheduled castes and scheduled tribes, on this page? What does that map even mean? And how is it relevant to this page - which is about general election? This map should be replaced with a map showing the electoral constituencies of India and if no replacement found then remove this map and leave that section empty. 99.7.61.93 (talk) 02:50, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Because some Indian constituencies are reserved for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes, and the unmarked (white) ones are not. The map is already displaying the constituencies, with numbering scheme. You can read more at Reservation in India. Hope it helps! — DaxServer (t · c) 08:38, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2022

leader_since2 = 2017 LakshayYadav007 (talk) 12:46, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Venkat TL (talk) 14:20, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Opinion polls

I don’t understand why the overview of opinion polling has been deleted. Okay, polls can be unreliable, but I think that everyone who specifically looks for opinion polling overviews knows this, or should know. One can draw his own conclusions with the given data. E.g. look at trend lines, differences per polling institution, composition of the repsonse group. Just mentioning the polls does not imply that you consider them trustworthy.

A compromise can be to include a warning that polls can be unreliable (in India more than in other countries?). QNTN9 (talk) 15:41, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Opinion polls

Opinion polls should be added, or maybe a new page for it would be better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kasperia01 (talk • contribs) 16:39, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

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Left Front

Should we include Left Front in parties and alliances section? I know there is no all India Left Front. CPI and CPIM contest Lok Sabha election together nationally while other Left parties ally with CPI and CPIM regionally. Some people are saying Left parties have less votes and MLAs, MPs than TMC. But CPI and CPIM has presence in more number of states than TMC (CPIM has MLAs in 9 states and District Council Members in Jammu & Kashmir, CPIM and CPI has significant presence in WB also, CPI has MLAs in 3 states - Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Bihar and it is a state party in Manipur also, TMC has MLAs in 3 states - WB, Meghalaya (12) and Arunachal Pradesh (1), but MLAs in Meghalaya and Arunachal Pradesh have joined it from Congress and Independent). TMC has no alliance. There was a alliance named Federal Front which does not exist now. Sitaram Yechury and D Raja have called for Left Unity (https://english.mathrubhumi.com/news/india/d-raja-calls-for-left-unity-to-defeat-bjp-rss-1.8037536). Left Front had also led the third front in 2009 and 2014. What should I do? I think we should include it in parties and alliances section (with CPIM, CPI and Kerala Congress (M) as members) without including it in info box. -XYZ 250706 (talk)) 03:02, 20 Novemeber 2022 (UTC) XYZ 250706 (talk) 03:16, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

@XYZ 250706 No alliance of Left parties has been announced for 2024, so they should not be added yet. Dhruv edits (talk) 16:50, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Parties and Alliances

I have given a link where it is written that CPIM led LDF is bracing for 2024 Lok Sabha polls and another link from New Age (CPI organ) mentioned CPIM, CPI, CPIML Liberation, AIFB and RSP have decided to fight together.[1] BJP and INC have not announced their alliance for 2024 election. But they have continous alliance for several years. Left parties have also been continuous in Lok Sabha polls. Kerala Congress (M) is part of LDF and according to Deccan Chronicle, SUCI(C) is also part of left front.[2] XYZ 250706 (talk) 11:15, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

@XYZ 250706 No alliance of Left parties has been reported by reliable sources for 2024, so stop adding them. When an alliance of Left Parties becomes official, it will be added. Dhruv edits (talk) 12:41, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Call of the 24th Party Congress". New Age. 2022-11-05. Retrieved 2022-11-20. In the inaugural session of the 24th Party Congress leaders of CPI(M), CPI(ML), Forward Block were present and reiterated their positions on left unity. RSP, not present due to their organizational pre-occupations shared the same understanding of fighting together.
  2. ^ "RSP willing to return to LDF". Deccan Chronicle. 2019-02-14. Retrieved 2022-11-20. RSP is part of the Left Front at the centre comprising CPM, CPI, RSP, Forw-ard Bloc, CPI(ML) Liberation and SUCI.

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Semi-protected edit request on 30 November 2022

ADMK is not appearing in NDA. 116.14.164.241 (talk) 14:17, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. RealAspects (talk) 10:04, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

2024 Lok Sabha

@Ok123l According to The Hindu, Communist Party of India (Marxist) [CPI-M]-led Left Democratic Front (LDF) and Congress-led United Democratic Front (UDF) - as well as the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) have started to competitively devise long term strategies for the Lok Sabha 2024 election. Should I add LDF as an alliance in Lok Sabha 2024 election with CPIM, CPI, KC(M) as members?(https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/kerala-major-political-parties-brace-for-2024-lok-sabha-polls/article65774701.ece) XYZ 250706 (talk) 03:55, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Is there an official alliance between them? If so okay. Ok123l (talk) 16:14, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
CPIM, CPI and KC(M) are part of LDF. XYZ 250706 (talk) 16:26, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
KC(M) is part of LDF from 2020. XYZ 250706 (talk) 16:30, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
@Ok123l TRS (now BRS) has confirmed alliance with Left in future elections (https://indtoday.com/trs-to-continue-alliance-with-left-parties-jagadish-reddy/). Can we add BRS in LDF in 2024 Lok Sabha election? XYZ 250706 (talk) 04:49, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
@Dhruv edits what is your opinion? Ok123l (talk) 06:41, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
What is your opinion @Ok123l? XYZ 250706 (talk) 07:21, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
@Ok123l There is no announcement of any alliance, all articles are speculative in nature. Until parties come out with official announcements, alliances should not be added. I have already conveyed the same to @XYZ 250706. Dhruv edits (talk) 07:52, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
@XYZ 250706 Stop adding speculative alliances in the article. The link you have mentioned doesn't say that TRS and Left parties will have an alliance for 2024 Lok Sabha polls. There is no announcement of any Left Front alliance for 2024 polls, so stop with this continuous disruptive edits. Dhruv edits (talk) 08:06, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
I agree with @Dhruv edits. Ok123l (talk) 08:13, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
@Dhruv edits So what is this link https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/kerala-major-political-parties-brace-for-2024-lok-sabha-polls/article65774701.ece? XYZ 250706 (talk) 08:57, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
CPIM, CPI and KC(M) are part of LDF. XYZ 250706 (talk) 08:59, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
According to this, Communist Party of India (Marxist) [CPI-M]-led Left Democratic Front (LDF) and Congress-led United Democratic Front (UDF) - as well as the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) have started to competitively devise long term strategies for the Lok Sabha 2024 election. XYZ 250706 (talk) 09:00, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
@XYZ 250706 The article says nothing about how many LDF parties (there are currently 11 parties) will actually contest elections and is also vague whether it will be pan India alliance or only limited to Kerala. Wait for official announcement of alliance of Left Front before adding it to the page. There are many more parties that are under NDA/UPA that haven't been added for the same reason. Currently there are only 2 alliances in Lok Sabha and only those should be added until announcement of more alliances is reported with your logic. Dhruv edits (talk) 09:06, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Left Front

@Ok123l Many editors are thinking that Left party leader should be kept either in infobox or Left Front in parties and alliances section. As the Left Front has only 6 seats in Lok Sabha, we should not add it in infobox. But according to https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/kerala-major-political-parties-brace-for-2024-lok-sabha-polls/article65774701.ece, we can add LDF in parties and alliances section. Out of 11 parties of LDF, only CPIM, CPI and KC(M) have MPs. So we can add these 3 parties. Can you please add them? XYZ 250706 (talk) 08:39, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@XYZ 250706 discuss on Talk:2024 Indian general election instead of my talk page, other editors will see it. Ok123l (talk) 09:14, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
@XYZ 250706 on your question however, who is "many editors"? Also read your source carefully, "Unlike in the past, mainstream political parties in Kerala have apparently got into a preparatory mode for the Lok Sabha polls in 2024." It refers to the state of Kerala specifically in Lok Sabha election. If it was talking about Telangana or Odisha for example, TRS or BJD could be put in parties and alliances section. Ok123l (talk) 09:19, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
I have seen several editors making sections of left front and some include them in infobox ( do not take myself in this list). Ok @Ok123l. I have got it. XYZ 250706 (talk) 09:25, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

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Alliance of DMK

According to Wikipedia, DMK is part of UPA (led by INC). But actually INC is part of SPA (previously DPA, which is led by DMK) in Tamil Nadu. It is true that DMK and Congress were in alliance in 2019 Lok Sabha election in Tamil Nadu. But Left parties were also part of alliance of DMK. So you cannot say it merely UPA. Besides, DMK had withdrawn support from UPA. (https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/dmk-pulls-out-of-upa-government-is-stable-says-chidambaram/articleshow/19060865.cms) But no one can give a citation that DMK is part of UPA. There are also news that CPIM will rope DMK in their Left Democratic Front. (https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kochi/cpm-general-secretary-sitaram-yechury-calls-out-congress-on-secularism-decide-your-stand/articleshow/90697351.cms) I think we should keep DMK now in Non-Aligned Parties and we will add it to LDF when confirmed news comes. Please give your opnion. XYZ 250706 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

In my opinion, DMK should not be added in both UPA and LDF alliances. There have to be a separate section for Secular Progressive Alliance which will contest 2024 Lok Sabha elections in Tamil Nadu and Puducherry.[1] Likewise, Left Front is valid only inside Kerala, Tripura and West Bengal (not in Tamil Nadu). There is no left-front in Bihar because CPI and CPI(M) are part of state-level alliance Mahagathbandhan which is going to contest 2024 elections [2]. There is no official confirmation of LDF in national level yet. I support seperate sections for national-level and state-level alliances. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 11:00, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
I am adding DMK to Non-Aligned Parties. If we start to add regional alliance the page will be too long. There are many non-major regional alliances. XYZ 250706 (talk) 13:41, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
It is not legislative assembly election that we will start to add regional alliances. XYZ 250706 (talk) 13:53, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
SPA contested 2019 Indian general election and 2021 Tamil Nadu legislative election. So it's clear that they are not state legislative-election only alliance. Likewise, other regional parties also have separate alliances and clarified about their position on 2024 elections. They'll contest on state-level alliance. Please check the sources I've added in this article. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 14:26, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
The Left Front contested Bihar 2019 lok sabha polls without being part of MGB. Today Sitaram Yechury told that CPIM will form Left Democratic Front as third alternative nationally and giving people an alternative. (https://www.facebook.com/cpimtripuraofficialpage/videos/896604955098163) Besides this link (https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kochi/cpm-general-secretary-sitaram-yechury-calls-out-congress-on-secularism-decide-your-stand/articleshow/90697351.cms) also provides citation that final draft CPIM political resolution gives thrust on empowering the Left parties as the third alternative and he plan is to bring parties like DMK in Tamil Nadu and Samajwadi Party in Uttar Pradesh. XYZ 250706 (talk) 13:59, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
I have added reliable sources. Kindly check them and stop edit war. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 14:05, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Check your talk page and stop edit war. You have taken part in edit warring many times in past. XYZ 250706 (talk) 14:09, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
I have provided reliable sources for my edit. Kindly check them and stop edit war. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 14:13, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Please do not add regional alliances. LDF (Kerala) was added at a time with reliable citation (when these new citation were not there). User talk:Dhruv edits told not to add regional alliances. Please do do that. XYZ 250706 (talk) 14:17, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Please stop edit war and try to reach consensus if you have dispute on this topic. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 14:23, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
If the two of you don't stop edit warring I'm blocking both of you from this page. Use the talk page here to come to a consensus and apply the consensus, not some random user's talk page. It takes two to edit war and looking at the edits on this page the last several days you're both beyond when you should have been blocked for your disruption. Canterbury Tail talk 14:37, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
I did not do anything after you earned me XYZ 250706 (talk) 14:39, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
    • warned me
XYZ 250706 (talk) 14:39, 11 January 2023 (UTC)


@Canterbury Tail:, Even after your warning, @XYZ250706: started edit war again. I asked to reach consensus but the user didn't listen it and continues to impose his own edit without reliable source. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 08:09, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I gave reliable sources and did not impose my edit only. XYZ 250706 (talk) 08:50, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
Left Democratic Front is a state-level alliance based in Kerala. There is no official source to mention it as a national-level alliance. You keeps adding BRS and JD(S) under the LDF without any reliable source. Kindly read Wikipedia:No original research and WP:SPECULATIVE. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 08:57, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Protected

I've protected this article for 3 days so people can actually talk about it instead of the mass edit warring that is going on on the page. I've also handed out some blocks to some editors for persistent edit warring on the article. This needs to be discussed, any further edit warring on this article will be met with a block from this article. Canterbury Tail talk 16:20, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

User:Canterbury Tail, User:SharadSHRD7, User:XYZ 250706 - I am willing to try to act as a mediator at DRN after the edit-warriors come off block, but only if the editors agree not to edit the article while moderated discussion is in progress, and agree that discussion will be at the moderator and the community rather than back-and-forth. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:45, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
@Robert McClenon: I Agree this. SharadSHRD7 (talk)
Resume discussion here, on the article talk page. If discussion is inconclusive, file a new request at DRN. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:09, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
@Robert McClenon:: I'm not willing to resume discussion here, because I explained as much as I can, but the other user is not ready to understand. Already I had plenty of discussion with the other user in this talk page. I think this content dispute can be solved only through a moderated discussion. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 00:45, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
User:SharadSHRD7 - First, the way that you explain the impasse does not sound positive. You seem to be implying that it is the obligation of the other editor to listen and understand. However, second, I am willing to start moderated discussion if both you and the other editor agree to moderated discussion at DRN. If so, I will expect both of you to answer my questions and to listen to me and to the other editor's statements. Either of you may file the request for moderated discussion. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:57, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
@Robert McClenon:: I lost interest in one-sided discussion with @XYZ 250706:. Not only me, other users in this talk page also adviced that user well before me, to stop adding speculative alliance without official confirmation. But the user didn't try to understand. Now I've filed the request for moderated discussion and also notified the user regarding this DRN request. SharadSHRD7 (talk) SharadSHRD7 (talk) 05:29, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
Other editors may request to be added to the moderated discussion at DRN. Robert McClenon (talk) 07:38, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Tribes and caste on map

What does mean Tribes and caste on legends of maps? Kaiyr (talk) 06:55, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Reserved seat for Schedule Caste (SC) & Schedule Tribe (ST) Mahesh Chhanga 78 (talk) 11:11, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Inc leader

Mallikarjun khadke is not leader face of Inc,he is party president, just like JP naddamif he is ,then put jp nadda as leader for BJP. Maphumor (talk) 16:22, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

@Maphumor No prime ministerial candidate announced by INC yet, so party president has been added. Dhruv edits (talk) 16:44, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
https://zeenews.india.com/india/who-will-be-congress-pm-candidate-in-2024-ls-elections-mallikarjun-kharges-answer-with-rahul-gandhi-on-stage-2529784.html/amp Maphumor (talk) 20:50, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
@Maphumor @Dhruv edits If Rahul Gandhi becomes free from the case filled against him so that he can contest 2024 election, then only we can add Rahul Gandhi in the infobox. As of now, we should not add him. XYZ 250706 (talk) 08:09, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Using Template:Infobox legislative election until the announcement of election results

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India has a multi-party system having 8 parties with national status. Adding only two prominent national parties (BJP and INC) in the Infobox seems unfair and against WP:NPOV. According to 2019 election results, AITC is the third largest national party with 22 seats and 4.06% votes (Although DMK got 24 seats and 2.34% votes, it's a state party and part of UPA led by INC). I support adding third largest national party in the Infobox irrespective of their vote and seat share. I support using Template:Infobox legislative election until the announcement of election results. After results, we can switch into image based Template:Infobox election. This will ensure the fair representation without bias and prevent edit wars in future. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 13:10, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

No, YSRCP also got 23 seats. According to wikipedia and other reliable sources, Indian politics has become mainly two party system in Lok sabha election. Please remove it. You seem to push up AITC or its alliance. XYZ 250706 (talk) 13:24, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
YSRCP is a state party. AITC is a national party. The Election Commission of India (ECI) accords recognition to the national level and the state level political parties based upon objective criteria. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 13:27, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
TMC has not such presence outside WB. It has not won MLAs in recent state election except in WB. Its national party status was going to be removed by ECI in 2019 just 3 years after its promotion to national party, but AITC requested ECI to keep its status till 2024. XYZ 250706 (talk) 13:30, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
I have not formed this article, but after 1996 all Lok Sabha elections infoboxes contain BJP and INC only. XYZ 250706 (talk) 13:31, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Outside West Bengal, TMC have 11 MLAs in Meghalaya and 1 MLA in Arunachal Pradesh. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 13:34, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Besides, allegation of mass rigging and violence was made against TMC (https://www.hindustantimes.com/lok-sabha-elections/lok-sabha-election-2019-vandalism-rigging-reported-from-bengal-in-last-phase-of-polling/story-gL4RvdF04HppzGRhe15HzM.html). I can see that you have very less knowledge about Indian politics. TMC has not won those MLAs outside WB. MLAs from other parties joined TMC. XYZ 250706 (talk) 13:41, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Please follow Wikipedia:Civility during discussion. Kindly wait for others to give their neutral opinion. TMC got 16.39% vote share and won 1 seat in the 2021 Tripura local elections. [3] SharadSHRD7 (talk) 13:44, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Local body elections are different from Legislative Assembly election or Lok Sabha election. XYZ 250706 (talk) 14:41, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
I am giving neutral opinion only. I have no oppostion with you or tmc. I am telling the opinion and the things that most of the editors follow. Ok, Let's see opinion of other editors. XYZ 250706 (talk) 14:43, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
  • Comment Given that India has a large number of parties, I would suggest switching to using {{Infobox legislative election}}, which has the NPOV advantage of showing all parties, but also prevents the endless edit warring over the party leaders' images. It would look like this. Number 57 19:18, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Agree. There is a long-standing debate on Wikipedia about using TIE vs TILE. Adding only 2 national parties in the Infobox will affect WP:NPOV and gives wrong assumption. I support using Template:Infobox legislative election until election results, similar to Next United Kingdom general election. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 02:59, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
@Joe de Jointe: I request you not to change the template of Infobox until election results. Indian politics is based on multi-party system. We can't assume it as two-party system. We have to follow WP:NPOV. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 09:06, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
@SharadSHRD7 As most of the editors are wanting only two major parties (although India has multi party system, It has become merely two party system on national level), please add only BJP and INC in infobox. Do not impose your edit. XYZ 250706 (talk) 10:53, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
@XYZ 250706:: India has a multi-party system. We can't assume it as two-party system because currently there are 8 parties which have national party status. And also we cannot ignore the role of regional parties in the election. If we use the image-based Infobox template, viewers will assume the election is all about Modi vs Rahul. This is clearly against WP:NPOV. We can switch into image-based Infobox after election results.SharadSHRD7 (talk) 12:55, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
I agree with this. But in the next election if many more parties win at least one seat then the list will be too long. XYZ 250706 (talk) 04:21, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
By the term 'list', I want to mean the infobox XYZ 250706 (talk) 04:22, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
And here is an issue. The list should be according to number of states where the parties has MLA or MP representation and the party is recognized in that state. Besides Lok Janashakti Party (LJP) does not exist now. So if we add LJP, it will be wrong. XYZ 250706 (talk) 04:25, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
The list should be based on number of seats each parties have in the Lok Sabha. If both parties have same number of seats, alphabetical order needs to be followed. Only current parties in the Lok Sabha have to be included in the infobox [e.g.: Alba is a new party founded in 2021 (which did not exist in the previous general election in UK) but included in the Next United Kingdom general election because Alba party have 2 seats in the current House of Commons of the United Kingdom]. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 04:45, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
But I will first agree with the rule with most of the editors follow i.e., the main major parties in infobox. XYZ 250706 (talk) 04:54, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
I ask all users of Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian politics,
to give their valuable opinions whether to add infobox legislative election or not. XYZ 250706 (talk) 13:10, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
@Chennai Super Kings Lover Federal Front does not exist in reality. It was a proposed alliance for 2019 election but was not formed at that time also. XYZ 250706 (talk) 08:00, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
@Chennai Super Kings Lover I also agree with you. XYZ 250706 (talk) 08:01, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
  • Oppose:UPA , NDA and Federal Front/Third Font should be added as they are major alliance in India, and Infobox Legislative Election should be changed as Lok Sabha is not a Legislature like Rajya Sabha.

Thank You, Chennai Super Kings Lover (talk) 7:39, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Oppose : Infoboxes of Indian elections (including Lok Sabha) contain major parties. Parties leading major alliances can be added to the infobox. Infobox legislative election is not needed. XYZ 250706 (talk) 09:53, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Besides a redirect to Lok Sabha is given in the introduction to the article. So no need to add the table of parties with seats more. XYZ 250706 (talk) 03:16, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
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Add CPI(M)

(non-admin closure) Shaan SenguptaTalk 00:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

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Add CPI(M) because:- (i) It lead one of the three main alliances of India, The Left Front (ii) It's one of the 6 national parties. (iii) India has a multi-party system. (iv) It will not support United Progressive Alliance or National Democratic Alliance. (v) Samajwadi Party formed alliance withCPI(M). There is a chance of it to become third largest alliance group. (vi) In 2004 Indian general election CPI(M) become the third largest party with no. of seats higher than Indian National Congress in 2014 Indian general election. Marxist Economist (talk) 05:50, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

@Marxist Economist Infobox is based on WP:RS. Currently only 2 alliances are considered as major contenders for the election. Please see MOS:INDELECT. Unless reliable sources claim that CPIM is a major contender for the election, it shouldn't be added. Being a national party, or having a good result 2 decades back is not a reason to add it. Dhruv edits (talk) 06:05, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Comment: I think we can add all 6 national parties if we add CPI(M) in the infobox as they are regarded as major parties in India by ECI. XYZ 250706 (talk) 08:06, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
@Marxist Economist All of your points are correct except IV. The Left Front will support the UPA if hung Lok Sabha situation occurs. XYZ 250706 (talk) 08:11, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
@XYZ 250706 No we cannot since it is completely against MOS:INDELECT. Also, as ssen in last elections, there are many state parties that have done better in Lok Sabha elections than CPIM or other national parties. Being a national party has no bearing on the election. None of them can be added unless they are supported by WP:RS as a major contender. Dhruv edits (talk) 08:13, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
@Dhruv edits I got it. But the infobox legislative election is extra long. It makes the infobox and initial portion of article odd looking. Is there any better way to represent the infobox without these sort of debates? XYZ 250706 (talk) 08:50, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

I've restored the previous infobox, the whole idea of which was to stop this sort of complaint and be more WP:NPOV. Please stop trying to remove it XYZ. Thanks, Number 57 08:13, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

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Opinion Polls

(non-admin closure) Add Opinion Polls after July 2023 i.e. after formation of I.N.D.I.A. Shaan SenguptaTalk 05:08, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

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I’ve tried to add opinion polls both on this page and the separate Opinion polling for the next Indian general election pages, but the user User:Shaan Sengupta has deleted them saying “The polls carried out in the election year of a year before are only to be added. Donot add any poll done before May 2023.” So far as I know, this is not WP:CON, since pages such as this one, this one, and this one all post older polls. Therefore, I’d like to establish a WP:CON to add older polls.

PS: I also added polls from this year (the year before the election) so I’m not sure why they were deleted.

PtolemyXV (talk) 05:24, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

  • Add recent polls only- It has always been the same with Indian elections. Please see the list below.
Same has been the case in Indian state elections article.
There are many more examples that prove that this is the way election articles of India are made. Shaan SenguptaTalk 16:00, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
I don't see why it would be different for Indian and non-Indian elections, which is why I wanted to ask for input from other editors, especially since the polls are in a separate article and since two of the polls are from 2023, the year before the election. Also, I don't see any reason why older polls shouldn't be added; Wikipedia's purpose is to share as much reliable information as possible and therefore excluding polls doesn't seem to serve a purpose. Also, the Wikipedia guide on Indian elections (MOS:INDELECT) says to use the opinion polling section of 2022 United States Senate election in Ohio as a guide, and this article uses polls from up to 22 months before the election.
PtolemyXV (talk) 19:31, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
The election in the ohio was in 2022 and the oldest poll in the article is of Feb 2021. Which supports my point. That the polls of the election year or a year before should only be added. And there has always been a difference in type of contents in article of different countries. MOS:INDELECT proves that there is a different structure for Indian election articles from others. Shaan SenguptaTalk 01:41, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
If we are using the Ohio article as a model, I think it would be reasonable to add the polls from January and July of 2023 at least, since they are from the year before the election, which will be, at its latest, in 2024.
PtolemyXV (talk) 17:58, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
We are not using Ohio article. We are using Indian election articles some of which I have mentioned above. We cannot add polls from Jan 2023 because political situation in the country has changed completely before and after I.N.D.I.A. All the previous polls are from before I.N.D.I.A. which no longer defines the current scenario. And please keep in to add only the polls which have margin of error and sample size defined. Missing these two would mean it to be unreliable. Shaan SenguptaTalk 18:15, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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More parties

Resolved (non-admin closure) Shaan SenguptaTalk 00:01, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

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Adding more will make it more representative. We can keep national parties at top according to seat when seat is same popular vote will be the deciding factor, followed by state parties in similar ways. Mawbawinranaghat (talk) 17:00, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Every party is not to be added in the Infobox. Please read MOS:INDELECT to learn about editing pattern of Indian Election articles. Shaan SenguptaTalk 17:01, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
Ok. Thank you. Mawbawinranaghat (talk) 17:10, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
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Opinion Polls (25 August 2023)

Replies only in favour of adding opinion polls. Yet very little discussion in nearly a month. No consensus. Status-quo maintained. (non-admin closure) Shaan SenguptaTalk 11:13, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

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@PtolemyXV@Shaan Sengupta I think opinion polls in the year of 2024 (from January 2024) should be added because the volatile nature of Indian politics. The political situation can change a lot in this period of time and then the opinion polls may give a wrong notion. Besides opinion polls are generally not prepared with such care and vigour as it is made with at the time of election. XYZ 250706 (talk) 10:12, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

I request some members of Wikiproject Indian politics @Chennai Super Kings Lover @Dhruv edits to write here their neutral and valuable opinion. XYZ 250706 (talk) 10:14, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
@XYZ 250706 Doesn't make sense to me. You can't judge as to whether polling agencies are serious or not. The rules at MOS:INDELECT clearly says to refer to 2022 United States Senate election in Ohio#Polling as an example. Polls from a year before the elections are added her in this article as well as other years election articles as I have shown above. I don't see a point in unnecessarily pushing this to Jan 2024. We will see what happens in the future. As of now it didn't make sense to simply not add all this thinking in mind the thing that hasn't yet happened. And above all this we have to go by what the rule states. This proposal somewhat itself goes against the rules. Shaan SenguptaTalk 10:40, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
@PtolemyXV @Shaan Sengupta These surveys predict how much seats or votes a party or an alliance may get if elections are held today. That is why it may give wrong notion at the time of election. XYZ 250706 (talk) 10:54, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Besides wait for more consensus. XYZ 250706 (talk) 10:55, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
That's what polls are. Every poll does this for marketing. Shaan SenguptaTalk 10:56, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
@XYZ 250706, I just don't really get in general why we need to wait until its a few months from the election to post the polls. Yes, polls are sometimes wrong due to volatile political situations, but for example, almost all the polls in Opinion polling for the 2020 Slovak parliamentary election were very far off because Olano spiked at the last moment. Same thing with the PSOE in Opinion polling for the 2023 Spanish general election. That doesn't mean we should delete those old, inaccurate polls, does it? They provide information about attitudes at a certain time in the past, or at the present. They're not meant to predict the election, but to show general public opinions at a specific point in time. PtolemyXV (talk) 02:15, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
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Rahul Gandhi is the PM candidate for Congress and INDIA

 Not done (non-admin closure) ShaanSenguptaTalk 15:56, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

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Rahul Gandhi is the PM candidate for Congress and INDIA and not Kharge according to Ghelot. See the link https://www.indiatoday.in/elections/lok-sabha-polls-2024/story/rahul-gandhi-congress-prime-minister-candidate-2024-lok-sabha-polls-ashok-gehlot-2427137-2023-08-27#:~:text=08%3A03%20IST-,Rahul%20Gandhi%20is%20the%20Congress%20party's%20prime%20ministerial%20candidate%20for,parties%20after%20discussions%20and%20deliberations. Happyjit Singh (talk) 04:43, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done
@Happyjit Singh Is Ashok Gehlot the President of Congress Party? Has Congress Party's AICC which is authorised for these decision made an official announcement regarding this? If yes please show it. We will be happy to do that. Just because Ashok Gehlot said so, we won't make that change. Shaan SenguptaTalk 05:34, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2023

 Not done (non-admin closure) ShaanSenguptaTalk 15:55, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

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the percentage of BJP seats should be approx. 55% Girikamal89 (talk) 20:27, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done @Girikamal89 It is vote percentage written with number of seats. Which was a little more than 37.7%. Shaan SenguptaTalk 05:24, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
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All Indian election by state

I think all 2024 Indian general election by state should use the picture of national level leader as state wise no leader is announced. Horace Dendy (talk) 08:15, 17 March 2024 (UTC) — WP:SOCKSTRIKE

@Maphumor Horace Dendy (talk) 08:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC) — WP:SOCKSTRIKE

Partial presentation in the page

Hello sir im a new editor here but i wanted to say a few things that the current lok sabha page has been listed with things particularly favouring one side of the party and i think wikipedia is known for its transparency and equality of knowledge and usage of sources such as Al Jazeera who has been an known to be a partial based news channel who has been should be stopped instead use indian news sources or outlets like BBC etc Thank you AravindEditor (talk) 14:40, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources. You can see that your assumptions are false and some of your recommendations are more likely to be judged as unreliable. Borgenland (talk) 14:46, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
It's actually funny cause many Indian news portals are blacklisted for no reason and the politically motivated and controversial once are operating freely and openly!
The irony tho AravindEditor (talk) 15:33, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
You also ought to be warned of your wholesale, irresponsible and arbitrary removal of references here. And your WP:FORUM behavior and lack of disregard for prior established source consensus, as your recent reply shows. Borgenland (talk) 15:35, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

I dont want to turn this into a debate but people like you should know the reality of al jazeera etc before using them as source how much credibiliy they have in terms of maintaining neutrality you might even know the fact that is a government funded new channel AravindEditor (talk) 16:48, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

If you have complaints about that, then go open a discussion on [[4]] instead of trying to dictate what sources to use based on your personal whims and WP:IDNHT attitude. Borgenland (talk) 16:54, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Al Jazeera is deemed a reliable source by Wikipedia, regardless of it being state-owned. See WP:ALJAZEERA for more detail. Ok123l (talk) 18:37, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Okay im sorry for that. AravindEditor (talk) 18:42, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

okay thanks for the "help" sir. AravindEditor (talk) 16:59, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

@Kautilya3, Borgenland, Wikipedialuva, BlackOrchidd, Manasbose, Mikeblas, Ok123l, Sanalchalil, Naren.Ayinala, Ku423winz1, and Kkuchnir: The, "Issues" section is a bloated list of allegations. You must trim it.-Haani40 (talk) 08:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
I have yesterday removed two totally irrelevant topics that have nothing to do with elections. I will try to further trim them when I'm free.
Also suggest other editors
Electoral bonds, Ram Temple, and maybe generic issues like corruption and unemployment should be kept. Howeve, trimming is necessary. Manasbose (talk) 08:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Ram temple is going to be one of the most important issue in this election, especially its effect in the Hindi belt. Electoral bonds is also one of the biggest issues that has come into the politics just before the election. Of course some irrelevant portions can be trimmed. Ku423winz1 (talk) 09:24, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
References must directly mention this election to be retained. This article should also be protected to prevent trolls from inserting all sorts of frivolous edits in this contentious topic. Borgenland (talk) 08:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Why do I have to trim it? I haven't added anything to that section. If you think there is material that doesn't belong, you can remove that material directly. -- Mikeblas (talk) 15:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Is this a Reliable source?

Borgenland, Kautilya3, is this a reliable source for this article?-Haani40 (talk) 12:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

It is a WP:PRIMARY source, and needs WP:SECONDARY sources for validation (assuming it is authentic). -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:15, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
See WP:PRIMARY, but I am against it because it appears is a promotional website that is directly named after a candidate in this election. Borgenland (talk) 12:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
@Borgenland: Can there be a section for Major decisions and this be used as a source to mention some things done? -Haani40 (talk) 12:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Probably the background or issues. However all sources must be directly connected to the election. I have removed edits that do not strictly confide to these standards. See WP:PROMOTION, WP:NOTADVOCACY, and WP:NOTADVERT for further guidance. Borgenland (talk) 12:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
It is about the prior achievements based on which they are asking for votes in this election. Can that source be used?-Haani40 (talk) 12:52, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Sorry, it doesn't mention this election, so I guess it can't be used.-Haani40 (talk) 12:55, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
@Kautilya3, Borgenland, Wikipedialuva, BlackOrchidd, Manasbose, Ok123l, Sanalchalil, Naren.Ayinala, Ku423winz1, Kkuchnir, Boyinaroom, Akuindo, Davemck, Kalpesh Manna 2002, Maphumor, CapnJackSp, Priyanshu Baruah 2002, Yutah123, Vkwiki100, Ratnahastin, and Sachin126: Can this be used in this article or is it, "promotional"?-Haani40 (talk) 05:30, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
DH is an RS. The link can be used with attribution WP:A BlackOrchidd (talk) 05:37, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
@BlackOrchidd: I have received a good reply/replies here and I feel you should read them too!-Haani40 (talk) 12:56, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Unrelated to this election

@Borgenland and Kautilya3: The text in the, "Party campaigns" section under the, "Indian National Developmental Inclusive Alliance" and "Indian National Congress" headings are about rallies and are unrelated to this election. Will you remove those?-Haani40 (talk) 12:27, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

It is widely understood that holding an election rally is part of the campaign. Borgenland (talk) 12:30, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
@Borgenland: For your information, the, "Electoral Bonds", "Congress Party funds" and "Investigations into alleged corruption cases" sections under the heading, "Major election issues" don't mention the election. -Haani40 (talk) 17:33, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
The refs do, and Congress has explicitly stated that it was having difficulty campaigning in this election thanks to the issue. Finally, what do you think is the purpose of an electoral bond? I suggest you look into synonyms and keywords related to what an election is and how it is done. Borgenland (talk) 17:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
@Manasbose, Kautilya3, Ku423winz1, and Borgenland: The sentence,

Hartosh Singh Bal, a journalist for the current affairs magazine The Caravan told Agence France-Presse that the move by the government agencies indicated their behavior as “handmaidens of the ruling party to cow down the political opposition”.

is a statement by a relatively unknown person - should it be removed?-Haani40 (talk) 04:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
An unknown person would not have had their own Wikipedia article. Borgenland (talk) 04:22, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Citation required tag removal

Borgenland, you have removed the Citation required tag with this edit. Please add it back or provide a source for it.-Haani40 (talk) 15:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Same ref as below with paraphrase to avoid copyright violations. I suggest you read the entire thing before jumping to conclusions. Borgenland (talk) 15:23, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Sourced content removed

@Kautilya3, Borgenland, Wikipedialuva, BlackOrchidd, Manasbose, Ok123l, Sanalchalil, Naren.Ayinala, Ku423winz1, Kkuchnir, Boyinaroom, Akuindo, Davemck, Kalpesh Manna 2002, Maphumor, Articleo, CapnJackSp, Priyanshu Baruah 2002, Yutah123, and Vkwiki100: Ratnahastin has removed this but I feel it is with respect to this election and should be restored. Please comment! -Haani40 (talk) 10:17, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

@Ratnahastin has valid reasons so I am not touching said edit. Borgenland (talk) 10:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
  • Read WP:SOAPBOX. You cannot use the concerning politician's own promotional speech to add content. Ratnahastin (talk) 10:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
@Ratnahastin I am not in the participation of such edit in that article. Articleo (talk) 11:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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