User Talk:Shaan Sengupta

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Blocked[edit]

Yamla (talk) 17:44, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Yamla the notice reads that multiple accounts is allowed but not for illegitimate reasons. I told you everything that was true still this is illegitimate? You said I am not eligible for a clean start. What do I need to do so that I can do editing on Wikipedia. ShaanSenguptaTalk 17:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is an illegitimate example, a clear example of WP:EVADE. Your abuse of this account makes it far less likely you'll ever be unblocked. If you don't have access to your original account and can't recover the password, you need to go at least six months with zero edits, then apply for an unblock with the oldest account you still have access to. At that point, you'll need to convince us you understand your use of this account was blatantly inappropriate and deal with the issues that lead to your original block and subsequent unrelenting sockpuppetry. I'll note you are far closer to a community ban than you are to being unblocked. --Yamla (talk) 17:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Yamla I did the same the last time. I went with 0 edits no new accounts. But I was told to make a request with the original account. I no longer have access to any of my previous accounts. I only can preserve this account. My original account was banned for sockpuppetry only. The first account that I created, I lost its password and created a new one and was blocked because of sockpuppetry and disruptive edits. This account stats must be satisfying to show that I no longer am disruptive. I have dealt with nearly all the issue that I had with the experience that I now carry. As you have seen that I have no sleepers, is there a way to get out of this early? Or will I be allowed to use this account after six months because I no longer have access to the previous ones. ShaanSenguptaTalk 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Every single edit you made with this account was disruptive. Every single edit you made with this account violated WP:EVADE and WP:SOCK. Again, you are far closer to a community ban than you are to being unblocked. Six months with zero edits is, frankly, the absolute minimum given your chronic violations. --Yamla (talk) 18:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Yamla Ok I will once again wait for 6 months. Just tell me one last thing, If I make the appeal after 6 months with this account, will it be considered or I will be asked to make request with original account. I have cleared that I no longer have access to any of those. ShaanSenguptaTalk 18:03, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You need to clearly indicate you no longer have access to any other account, and why. --Yamla (talk) 18:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I confirm I no longer have any access to those accounts. I only had the detail of my last account in my previous mobile which I no longer have. Also I am not so good at remembering passwords. When I make the request with the standard offer after 6 months I will be making with this account only. All the rest accounts can be permanently locked. ShaanSenguptaTalk 18:12, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You mentioned that you didn't have access to your old accounts, which is why you created this account after waiting for six months and never logged into other accounts after the creation of this one, correct? – DreamRimmer (talk) 06:47, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DreamRimmer no. My last blocked account JaggaDaaku. I had access only to that after it was blocked. I filed UTRS from it after waiting for 6 months. There I was asked to request from my original account, whose access I didn't had. That's why after that request got turned down I made new (this) account for a fresh start. I had access to JaggaDaaku till few months back (means after making this account). But I lost my mobile phone which had everything. And as mentioned above I am not very good at remembering passwords so right now I only have access to this account. If I gain access to my lost mobile then I may have access to JaggaDaaku which is very unlikely. ShaanSenguptaTalk 08:31, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You created this account in May 2023, but you edited as Jagga Daaku on other wikis until 15 August 2023. If you have good intentions, why did you edit from both accounts, and why didn't you disclose earlier that Jagga Daaku is your account? – DreamRimmer (talk) 08:44, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DreamRimmer I didn't use this account on other wikis as JaggaDaaku was established there. And had I used two accounts on same pages it would have been a clear violation for fresh start. Also it would have given the impression that single user is using two accounts to support himself which was again wrong. But after I lost access to JD I had no option but to use only this account on other wikis too. Since I was no longer using JD, I thought its ok to not announce that. ShaanSenguptaTalk 08:49, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sockpuppetry is a global policy that applies to all other Wikimedia projects. So, no matter if you were using two accounts on different wikis, it was still sockpuppetry. – DreamRimmer (talk) 09:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DreamRimmer I accept that I have made mistakes. But I was left with no choice. I waited after JD was blocked. I filed request for standard offer. But it was not accepted bcoz I didn't have access to my original account. That's why I made this one. I am once again willing to wait for 6 months, but its just that I want to continue using this account, and for that I can accept all the ways that are acceptable to the community. You can lock all those previous accounts globally too if you think I might use them on other projects. Just accept my plea so that I can use the standard offer with this account only. ShaanSenguptaTalk 09:08, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As you mentioned, "I filed a request for a standard offer, but it was not accepted because I didn't have access to my original account. That's why I created this one." I want to advise that creating a new account despite the denial was not the right step; as a result, you have completely lost the community's trust. However, considering your desire to continue constructive editing, I have a suggestion for you: refrain from creating any new accounts in the future. Stop editing from this account today and preserve it for the future. After six months, submit a request for a standard offer. If it gets rejected, wait another six months before making another standard offer request. Continue this approach, as it is the last possible way for you to continue on Wikipedia. I cannot guarantee that you will be accepted, but I believe that admins/checkusers may consider your offer, given your willingness to volunteer and commitment to not breaking the rules again. This is my last reply here. Happy not-editing. – DreamRimmer (talk) 10:02, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I hope this is not the blocked user. Thewikizoomer (talk) 12:58, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mentioned it because the edit summary. WP:DUCK Thewikizoomer (talk) 12:59, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
also the pages that they're editing. overall pattern. (limited) Thewikizoomer (talk) 13:00, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Thewikizoomer I agree that the username and edit summary match with this user, but we should assume good faith, as @Blablubbs sleeper-checked Shaan Sengupta again on January 27 and found nothing. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha! Thewikizoomer (talk) 13:11, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thewikizoomer, DreamRimmer, Blablubbs Don't worry. You can run checks every day/week if you want. I am not making another account. I am just hoping that when I apply for standard offer after 6 months it is accepted and I am pardoned for my mistakes so that I can continue the good work that I have done until now. Since I am blocked and writing this I would request if it's right to keep an eye on 2024 Indian general election page where a user is vandalising it consistently. I even warned them on their talk page but they won't listen. Elections happen in India after 5 years so 2029 is the next after 2024 but they are repeatedly mentioning 2028. The user goes by Manaal or something. If you can fix please. I am making this single request only bcoz I came to write about SPI. See you all after 6 months. ShaanSenguptaTalk 19:26, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are now not eligible for WP:SO until 2024-07-28. Each time you edit this page, you reset the timer. --Yamla (talk) 20:53, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leftish wikipedia admins.[edit]

It's sad that your account has been blocked. Many times these stupid Wikipedia admins also suspected me for sockpuppetry without any valid reasons. They blocked many innocent Wikipedia users without any valid reasons. I think this is too much giving fake allegations and blocking accounts of hard working contributors. Vikepro (talk) 11:47, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Zendrago X I have decided to wait for 6 months and take WP:SO and I know that this will reset the timer. But this is necessary. I see that you have filed a SPI saying that Aparupa Sengupta 1991 is my account. The reason you gave is of same name, editing similar pages and maybe some more. I would request you to make it a CU request if you suspect it being me for a technical check. Bcoz I am here to tell you its not me and also giving you much better proof as to who that might be. Note that previously a account was made to impersonate me as Shaan Sengupta 2.0. I believe this is also just other attempt by making me suspect of using different account. That account was made even before SPI report was filed against me. I can also give you some similarities. All the previous socks had a deep connection with Bengal and Leftist Communist parties. This sock is also the same. If you see their contributions history it shows they edit West Bengal related articles the most. They even edit local body elections of West Bengal just like the previous socks did. Also I see that you are involved in a discussion with them at their talk page. Do you really believe that I will do something that I was fighting against before I got blocked. I repeatedly argued against adding minor political parties with the socks of Srimonbanik2007. And in that discussion they have accepted that they are from West Bengal. Just looking at their talk page and contributions will clear a lot of things. This SPI might help you. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Srimonbanik2007. If this satisfies you, you might report him to correct place and remove the report from my investigation page. Or you can keep it at both places if you still suspect. I would once again request you to request a CU and report Aparupa to Srimonbanik2007. You can also ping involved CUs/Admins/clerks in the new report. And once again guys, I am not making any new accounts. And I believe I will now directly log in when 6 months from today pass. ShaanSenguptaTalk 03:39, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Shaan Sengupta After noticing him from many days I have already found that he was not you because he was editing like that Marxist named user. But it was late as after filing a report it cannot taken back, so if that user is not you then don't worry admins will remove it. I'm Sorry for it. ✠ ZenDragoX✠ (contact) 13:10, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Shaan Sengupta Can you please ping the administrators who previously handled this issue, as they may be able to help. If the socks are impersonating as you reported them, then they may also impersonate others who will do same. ✠ ZenDragoX✠ (contact) 13:29, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Zendrago X since I am blocked, I believe I can't inform them. But I gave the SPI link of Srimonbanik2007 above. You can take a help from it and as far as the case filed by you is concerned you can mention there that you believe that Aparupa is not my sock but that of Srimonbanik. This will save admins time also. Also I would request that since you too think the same as me, you should file SPI of Aparupa as sock of Marxist/Happyjit and Srimonbanik as Sock Master. Thanks. I hope you can take care of the rest. Also you can mention link to this discussion at those SPIs. 13:59, 14 February 2024 (UTC) ShaanSenguptaTalk 13:59, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Izno, just to clear the air over similar name of the blocked sock in SPI case Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Srimonbanik2007. Aparupa Sengupta 1991 is not the first try to impersonate me. They have done it previously too with Shaan Sengupta 2.0 and with this account they claimed to be me. I hope this clears any doubt. If you guys still have something you can run a CU check. Also to inform it has been run multiple times on me to check sleepers but none were found. I can guarantee that I am not returning with another account and will wait for another 6 months for WP:SO from today. Thank you. ShaanSenguptaTalk 01:43, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck Do not reply to this message. I am sorry that you are blocked. I hope that you get unblocked some time; but you will need to be able to accept or tolerate delays, problems, or suffering without becoming annoyed or anxious. Best of luck.-- Toddy1 (talk) 18:00, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]