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Text and/or other creative content from New York Film Academy - Acting School was copied or moved into New York Film Academy with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Text and/or other creative content from New York Film Academy - Film School was copied or moved into New York Film Academy with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Untitled[edit]

Article merged: See old talk-page here and here

RED One Camera[edit]

Page originally said "It is the only film school that has the new RED high-definition video camera available for student use." I have found another school that owns REDs for student use (here: [1]), and, as such, removed their claim. Badcamera (talk) 06:15, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Corporate Vanity[edit]

While I don't believe the page or business is NN, the page's biggest contributors are either NYFA employees or could be -- see pending COI noticeboard pages for detailed report. [[2]] Page should be re-written by non-employees by admins using sources compiled online. Badcamera (talk) 09:28, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See also POV below. Badcamera (talk) 09:29, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes page reads like an advertisement for NYFA. The current form is embarrassingly ad copy for NYFA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.229.193.9 (talk) 04:11, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

POV Dispute[edit]

Wikipedia's COI page provides some examples for what constitutes incompatibility between Wikipedia's aims of neutrality and the aims of an individual:

"Using material you yourself have written or published is allowed within reason, but only if it is notable and conforms to the content policies. Excessive self-citation is strongly discouraged." - If the top four Wiki users editing NYFA's page ( IP 209.208.191.8 [55 edits, proven to be NYFA], IP 212.123.163.146 [28 edits, Netherlands-based, but only edits NYFA], and Users Kalinpmoon [26 edits] & Obilon [26 edits]) all turn out to be NYFA-run, then that is "excessive self-citation". (Other suspicious Users: Kalinmoon [3 edits], Nyfa [3 edits])

"If you are receiving monetary or other benefits or considerations to edit Wikipedia as a representative of an organization (whether directly as an employee or contractor, or indirectly as an employee or contractor of a firm hired by that organization) OR you expect to derive monetary or other benefits or considerations from editing Wikipedia; for example, by being the owner, officer, or other stakeholder of a company or other organization about which you are writing." -Open and shut case, right? We've proven here that Sherlock, or someone under his hire, is the anonymous editor of 58 of NYFA's page edits.

"COI often presents itself in the form of self-promotion, including advertising links, personal website links, personal or semi-personal photos, or other material that appears to promote the private or commercial interests of the editor, or their associates." -Goes hand-in-hand with "excessive self-citation".

"It is not recommended that you write an article about yourself. If you are notable, someone else will notice you and write the article." -Jerry Sherlock's article (here) has been edited 12 times by NYFA's proven IP. Suspicious User Oblion was the article's creator, and went on to edit another 16 times. Suspicious User Kalinmoon revised the page 7 times. Another User, Colfer2, at one time "reverted a bunch of adspeak by Obilon and a not-notable NYT article about the school's TV commercials".

Website linked below also raises possible charges of sock puppetry, whitewashing, and corporate vanity.

More details here: [3] --Badcamera (talk) 07:17, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Information[edit]

Can someone provide more information on locations and the programmes please. --Abdulha (talk) 07:24, 23 June 2008 (UTC)Abdulha[reply]

Would not recommend this school - and honest reviews have been removed[edit]

NYFA only had 3 out of 10 stars from reviews on filmmaking.com For some reason the honest reviews were removed, and the site only contains top reviews now. This is totally fake. Many students were not happy with this school.

I think some of the comments on here about NYFA are fake. Past reviews I have read before seem to have been deleted. This school is not much respected in the industry and it would be impossible that it would receive a 10/10 review. To call the classes film training in "embryonic stage" is an understatement. And why would one pay a few thousand dollars for a class in pre-embryonic stages? The only people attending are a handful of teeny boppers, and a bunch of foreigners who knew nothing about LA and believed they had come to real film school. Although the school has been around for a few years there is no one from the industry interested in this school or putting their kids in this school, which I found odd. I took a one month course and paid ridiculous monies for it. The school does not provide any assistance at all to arrange or help with sets, and the small prop room they have is always closed when you're not in class. You have to invent your own stories for the projects on the dot, so you basically have to be a writer, director, camerman, actor and what not all in one. But mind you that you don't have any training for it at that point. It would be better to have scripts for students and see what each would come up with from the same script. Its a one man show basically. When I asked why they don't help with having sets available for students for their practices and assignments, they gave a snooty attitude and asked who would be there to help if we made our first film? Come on, its a 30 DAY class! 80% of your time, apart from throwing a lot of money on this course, is spent trying to figure out where to get permission to film. You can't get permission within a days notice, and there is no time between class to arrange these things. No one is helpful at the school. The hours are overdone. Some of the teachers are OK but most of my classes were run by two teachers who really did not seem to have talent at all, and really little to teach. The only segment in the whole class that I found useful was learning about the camera, even if an old klonker was being used. There was no assistance with editing or on sets at all and the extremely short intro to using editing software was too short. When you actually had some time over between the hectic schedule, you were not allowed to work on your projects or try to practice editing. What class, anywhere, will not allow lab time on your own free time??? You have to schedule your labtime almost a week in advance. Just ridiculous because you don't know when you will end up with unexpected spare time.

They advertise a lot that they are "located" by the film lots and that classes get to use the backlots of Warner Brothers. They are located in one of the many office buildings opposite the street. Well, the backlot area is used only twice during the whole program. And it is restricted with all students from the school using it at the same time, meaning it is so full you access to only a very tiny area of the backlot which everyone in your group must take turns to do their short segment on.

After completing a one month course at NYFA I was recommended another class in Los Angeles which was only for a few days the following week I ended the NYFA class. I learned more in those days than the entire month at NYFA! And the whole class was packed to the brim with people from the film industry, already working on major productions with the biggest actors in town. I think only a handful of us were not already working in the industry, me being one of them. And I paid only $200 instead of the NYFA $3000.

Would I recommend NYFA? No. If anyone would really like to take a beginner class, just join UCLA classes for a month or any of the other universities or colleges in LA that carry film or acting class and for a far cheaper rate. And if you want to learn more advanced stages of film making, take the one year program at UCLA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.17.36.8 (talk) 09:02, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Photos[edit]

There has been considerable drama with regards to photos on this article. As I anticipate more drama, I am putting a link to the former photo here. Americasroof (talk) 19:39, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal[edit]

I think New York Film Academy - Film School and New York Film Academy - Acting School could be merged into this article. Oddly, this article is not linked to either of those. Aristophanes68 (talk) 03:02, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly support. I see no reason to have these separate at all. The Academy itself is notable, the two individual schools within it are not. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 23:59, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. Eusebeus (talk) 01:17, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done--a little messy in the section on the school's programs, but otherwise everything is copied. Aristophanes68 (talk) 17:52, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note about merge[edit]

I agree with the merging of the two schools within the page, but the notable staff / alumni pages should be again separated to acting vs film, for reasons of ambiguity. For instance, Paul Dano was in the film workshop and did not attend the Acting School, even though he is now a reputable actor. 129.44.56.147 (talk) 18:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)July 2010[reply]

NYFA is blatantly editing their own page to produce a less that truthful view of itself[edit]

I feel this article should be reviewed by admins. Proof is in the edits. The New York Film Academy Cafe is located at 51 Astor Place and an editor who keeps removing a notable member of their alumni is a user by the name Cafe51(please see the revision history of the page for proof of this). While that could be unrelated, I find it highly suspect that there is both a Cafe with the number 51 in its address which belongs to NYFA as well as a user removing notable alumni using the handle "Cafe51."

This is in concern to the removal of Brittany Andrews from the Notable Alumni section. She attended NYFA's directing program and they keep removing her, most likely, because they do not want it known that a well known porn star attended the school. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.59.142 (talk) 03:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bad redirect[edit]

New York Foundation for the Arts is not the New York Film Academy. The two organizations are not related.Warrenking (talk) 18:35, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]