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A fact from New York Biltmore Hotel appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 August 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the kissing room of the New York Biltmore Hotel (pictured) remained after the rest of the hotel had been demolished?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/August. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/New York Biltmore Hotel.

Al Smith[edit]

Al Smith was never mayor of New York. You can see this most apparently in Al Smith's Wiki page, and you can see that Smith was never mayor in Robert Caro's The Power Broker, but I will change this with a proper citation. He was, however, President of the Board of Aldermen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aecarrillo594 (talk • contribs) 21:50, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Builders[edit]

According to the page on Starett, the Biltmore was built by the Starett Brothers. So who actually built the place? Dwinetsk 14:14, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Role In Popular Culture[edit]

According to numerous websites, the New York Biltmore Hotel is NOT the filming location for the Ghostbusters. It was the Los Angeles Biltmore Hotel. Since I don't know this as fact and am relying upon internet sites I am not editing the article. Martyrc (talk) 03:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the clock now?[edit]

As it was such an institution, this info is needed to qualify the article as good. 2601:647:5800:3B60:51C9:95DE:9998:4143 (talk) 05:32, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

The hotel was never known as the "New York Biltmore." It was only ever referred to in official publicity and in the press as "The Biltmore." It was the first hotel in the Bowman-Biltmore chain, so it never had the city name as part of its name, like the later Atlanta Biltmore, Arizona Biltmore, Miami Biltmore, etc. Even after the Bowman-Biltmore chain ceased to exist, this hotel was called only "The Biltmore" until the day it closed. If you look on eBay, you can see matchbooks and brochures and such, and there are numerous advertisements from throughout the hotel's history easily found on Google that refer to it simply as "The Biltmore." I tried to correct that on this page, but it was reverted as being without sources. What sources would be best? I can link to some newspaper and magazine ads, etc. Looking for opinions. Thanks! jamesluckard (talk) 21:40, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I wrote this article and named it based on available sources. If you have an argument about changing the name, please link all of your best sources, whether they be history books, news articles, brochures, or other items.

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(talk) 15:38, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some links to ads, matchbooks, stationery and other objects from the hotel, all using the name "The Biltmore":

https://www.trevianbooks.com/pages/books/011520/gustave-baumann-elbert-hubbard/the-biltmore-vanderbilt-and-madison-avenues-43rd-44th-streets-new-york-gustav-baumann-president https://www.loc.gov/item/musbernstein.100061268/ https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1021/8371/products/FTT9_1763_674801aa-aa90-4dfd-9112-9cb735e1e0ca.jpg?v=1571709141 http://www.oldpokerchips.com/images/NNevadaBig/NewYorkBig/BiltmorePic9.jpg http://www.oldpokerchips.com/images/NNevadaBig/NewYorkBig/BiltmorePic10.jpg http://www.oldpokerchips.com/images/NNevadaBig/NewYorkBig/BiltmorePic1.jpg https://www.trevianbooks.com/pages/books/012912/bowman-biltmore-hotels-corp/the-biltmore-at-grand-central-terminal-new-york-city-floor-plans and here are a bunch of items at eBay also using that name. You can also search "biltmore new york" at eBay to find hundreds more: https://www.ebay.com/itm/202587894787 https://www.ebay.com/itm/185146813576 https://www.ebay.com/itm/372732187844 https://www.ebay.com/itm/175217818974 https://www.ebay.com/itm/324899924185 finally, here's a photo of two brochure I own from the hotel's final years, when it was no longer part of Bowman-Biltmore: https://i.ibb.co/wLrQgD3/biltmorebrochures.jpg The hotel's name never changed from just "The Biltmore" from when it opened to when it closed. In addition, the New York Times articles cited on the page here all appear to use that name as well. Apologies for the wonky spacing.

BTW, My suggested terminology would be "The Biltmore (New York City)" for the page itself and then "The Biltmore" for all references to the hotel within the article. Hope that sounds good, I think it respects the proper name the business maintained throughout its life. jamesluckard (talk) 02:37, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 12:28, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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New York Biltmore Hotel

... that the New York Biltmore Hotel's kissing room remained after the rest of the hotel had been demolished? Source: Mann, Ted (September 26, 2012). "Station Will Restore 'Kissing Room'". The Wall Street Journal.
- ALT1: ... that less than a year after the New York Biltmore Hotel opened, its first operator died after falling from the roof? Source: Gustav Baumann Falls to Death; Biltmore President, Losing Balance, Plunges Over Parapet on 22d Floor of Hotel". The New York Times. October 15, 1914
- ALT2: ... that a New York state judge ruled in 1974 that the New York Biltmore Hotel had to rename its bar? Source: "Men's Bar Loses Round In Battle of Status Quo". The New York Times. July 18, 1974
- ALT3: ... that a month after the New York Biltmore Hotel closed in 1981, its interiors were demolished so rapidly that almost nothing was salvageable? Source: McManus, Doyle (August 18, 1981). "Fast Remodeling Angers N. Y Preservationists: Clock Gone; Time Runs Out for Biltmore". Los Angeles Times. p. B10
- ALT4: ... that after the New York Biltmore Hotel's interiors were rapidly demolished, the renovation consultant resigned because it was impossible to recreate the old interiors? Source: Dunlap, David W. (August 26, 1982). "Pact to Save Palm Court Violated, Group Asserts". The New York Times.
- ALT5: ... that a kissing room is one of the few remaining portions of the New York Biltmore Hotel? Source: The kissing room is one of the alternate names of the Biltmore Room. Mann, Ted (September 26, 2012). "Station Will Restore 'Kissing Room'". The Wall Street Journal; Depalma, Anthony (April 4, 1984). "About Real Estate; Biltmore, Now Office Building, to Get Its Clock Back". The New York Times.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Killing of O'Shae Sibley

Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 14:44, 4 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/New York Biltmore Hotel; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

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Overall: Needs QPQ Lightburst (talk) 02:55, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review Lightburst. I've done a QPQ now. Epicgenius (talk) 14:52, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lightburst (talk) 15:00, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]