Talk:Minskoff Theatre

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June 24, 2022	Good article nominee	Listed
September 19, 2023	Good topic candidate	Promoted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 6, 2022.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the framework of One Astor Plaza was "a humdinger of an engineering feat" because it was built over the Minskoff Theatre (pictured)?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 08:36, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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One Astor Plaza
Minskoff Theatre

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The Minskoff Theatre at One Astor Plaza

... that the developers of One Astor Plaza added the Minskoff Theatre (pictured) to their project after first advocating against it to New York City mayor John Lindsay? Source: Stern, Robert A. M.; Mellins, Thomas; Fishman, David (1995). New York 1960: Architecture and Urbanism Between the Second World War and the Bicentennial. New York: Monacelli Press. p. 444.
- ALT1: ... that the developers of New York City's One Astor Plaza added the Minskoff Theatre (pictured) as "our way of paying the city back", despite first coming out against it? Source: Andelman, David A. (June 21, 1970). "Web of Steel Holds Fate Of the Stage". The New York Times
- ALT2: ... that the framework of One Astor Plaza was "a humdinger of an engineering feat" because it was built over the Minskoff Theatre (pictured)? Source: Andelman, David A. (June 21, 1970). "Web of Steel Holds Fate Of the Stage". The New York Times.
- ALT3: ... that the framework of One Astor Plaza is carried over the Minskoff Theatre (pictured) using the heaviest girders ever built at the time of its construction? Source: Andelman, David A. (June 21, 1970). "Web of Steel Holds Fate Of the Stage". The New York Times.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Queen's graph, Template:Did you know nominations/1978 New York City newspaper strike
- Comment: I can come up with individual hook suggestions, or additional combo hooks.

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 14:07, 9 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]

LGTM other than the required QPQ (ping back when that's done). Both articles are acceptably cited, no concerns on article quality. 5x expansion confirmed (more like a 10x expansion for One Astor Plaza); the Minskoff expansion seems to have begun on 19 January, but it's fine, basically a rounding error in a dual-nom, and it was clearly also expanded on February 8. Prefer ALT2, followed by ALT3; both are verified in the source. Do not agree with ALT1 (in context, it's clear that this was NOT a charitable gift, but rather part of a negotiation with Mayor Lindsay, and the developers received permission for more floors as a result). Original hook is too boring - developer changes their mind? Not a big deal. Image is freely licensed. The DYK reviewing guide claims that the image will appear at 100x100 resolution but that clearly seems false checking the front page today, so good to go (if it really was appearing at 100x100, then we'd need a crop to make it less rectangular - but no big deal since it won't.). Alt text not required, caption is sufficient.
(While here though, one minor nitpick: Any particular reason the old "PlayStation Theater" name is used as a section title, if it was since renamed Palladium? Granted, thanks to Covid, probably nobody knows or uses the new name, but still...) SnowFire (talk) 16:58, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @SnowFire: Thanks for the review. I've done two QPQs now and changed the header for the PlayStation Theater section to Palladium Times Square in the One Astor Plaza page. Regarding the expansions, though, I excluded the byte sizes of the references when calculating expansion as per WP:DYKCRIT#long. So when I appeared to have expanded the Minskoff Theatre page back in January, all of these were reference additions, and I didn't modify the prose size at all. User:Shubinator/DYKcheck gives me "Prose size (text only): 15683 characters (2531 words) "readable prose size"; Article created by Arcadian on March 15, 2006; Assuming article is at 5x now, expansion began 5 edits ago on February 9, 2022". (I added a few bytes to the list of productions, but that should not count toward prose expansion, anyway.) Epicgenius (talk) 14:15, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Ah, good point. I'd have approved even if the expansion in January had been prose, to be clear - the time limit (should) be fuzzier for dual noms. But a moot point since it qualifies even under a stricter view. SnowFire (talk) 14:42, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go. SnowFire (talk) 14:42, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 to T:DYK/P7