Talk:Lewis Cass

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Statue[edit]

I felt it appropriate that the image of his statue be included in this article. I rearragned the images a little to accommodate the statue so the page wouldn't be too long. I'm not involved with WikiProject Michigan, so I hope this isn't messing with the project any; just trying to help. --Douglas Whitaker 01:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism[edit]

I cleared out some vandalism on both the article and the talk page, hopefully it doesn't return. Thehebrewhammer 23:11, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The caption above the picture is wrong (vandalism?). I don't know how to edit it. William hanna (talk) 04:13, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removed vandalism noted by William hanna Todd Carnes (talk) 04:27, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Quip[edit]

A rival once said of Lewis Cass, "His reputation lies beyond the sea"- get it? Does anyone know the source of this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlk2020 (talk • contribs) 03:06, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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President Pro Tem[edit]

The article does not list why he was the PPT for only one day. Granted, Presidential Succession makes it a biggger deal now than it was back then, but it's still unusual. MMetro (talk) 01:48, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really know, but I just want to say that even then, the PPT was next in succession line; next after President, actually, since there was no VP at the time (King died in April 1853). --82.179.218.10 (talk) 13:37, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When the Senate returned for the session beginning 4 December 1854, Senator David Rice Atchison (who had been elected PPT before the end of the previous session) was not present. On motion of Senator Hunter of Virginia, Cass was elected PPT by unanimous consent. Upon taking the chair, Cass said the following: "In assisting, gentlemen of the Senate, at your organization, I hold this seat to-day, but I can hold it no longer, as I do not feel competent to preside over the deliberations of the Senate." Whether he genuinely did not feel competent or simply did not wish to be encumbered by presiding over the Senate every day because (as pointed out) there was no Vice President is an open question. -Rrius (talk) 05:50, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Oregon Question[edit]

Would it be worth noting that Cass was a vocal opponent of the Oregon Treaty on several grounds? His speech in the Senate hearing on the treaty seems to be the sole one held by the Library of Congress. Uberstadt (talk) 04:52, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Military Governor?[edit]

The Michigan Territory page lists Cass as briefly holding a military governorship, October 13 to October 29, as appointed by then-General Harrison, before being appointed by President Madison as the civilian governor. Bit hesitant on adding that to the article, given that article is the only evidence I can find for it, can anyone confirm it? Nofix (talk) 08:13, 21 March 2015 (UTC) Nofix[reply]

Places named after Lewis Cass in Commemoration section?[edit]

There is a comment at the top of the Commemoration section to specifically exclude places listed in the separate List of places named for Lewis Cass, however Casstown, OH; Cassville, WV; Cass City, MI; Bartow County, GA (which was Cass County); and Cass County, IN are all listed in the section anyway. SpoonThief (talk) 02:38, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also, there is a Cass Road in Maumee, Ohio, but I cannot confirm nor deny that it was named after him. Anyone have anything to add on that, I'd appreciate it. Maumee WAS a key area in the War of 1812, so it could very well be that he spent some time in that area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FiggazWithAttitude (talk • contribs) 19:29, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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1860 to 1866[edit]

This article doesn't say what he did during the Civil War, or how he died. Richard75 (talk) 01:02, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Party Candidacy Succession[edit]

The passage:

"Apart from James Buchanan's election to succeed Franklin Pierce in 1856, subsequent Democrats who attempted election to succeed another Democrat as President all failed in their bid to do so."

-- is obviously erroneous as both Lyndon Johnson and Harry Truman did so. While both candidates were incumbents due to taking office after a POTUS death, both also "attempted election" (successfully) in their own right to succeed another Democrat. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.34.131.212 (talk) 14:44, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That misses the point. Buchanan's election is how he succeeded President Pierce. Neither Truman nor Johnson won an "election to succeed" their predecessor. They were both incumbents by the time they got elected. —MiguelMunoz (talk) 02:08, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That distinction of "how" is not so qualified by the wording; that is the point. It simply is not what the text says. IF the passage intends to say "who was not already an incumbent by virtue of accession", it needs to be reworded, since it is historical fact that Truman attempted to succeed FDR and LBJ attempted to succeed JFK, and both were successful.192.34.130.216 (talk) 19:02, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Secretary of France under what Presidents?[edit]

The dates given for his service as Ambassador to France are December 1, 1836 – November 12, 1842. As I write this, it says he served under presidents Jackson and Van Buren. But the last data given is in John Tyler's term. I will add Presidents William Henry Harrison and John Tyler to the list. —MiguelMunoz (talk) 02:09, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I should note that his successor in that post is described not as "Ambassador" but as "Minister" to France. It makes me wonder if one of these titles is wrong. —MiguelMunoz (talk) 02:09, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Commemoration and street names[edit]

Three separate bullet points list four streets that are said to be named for him. None are footnoted/sourced. Ah, but I see there is another article referenced.

My question changes to why this list, then, is so balkanized and seemingly random? The street named for him in his town of birth, for example, is not on it.

I think really this section should just be the link to the other article and nothing more. Huw Powell (talk) 02:39, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lewis Cass statue[edit]

In 2022, the Michigan Legislature voted to replace Cass's statue in the National Statuary Hall in the U.S. Capitol with a statue of Coleman Young, first black mayor of Detroit. Holcroft8 (talk) 04:14, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]