Talk:Jacobus Anthonie Meessen

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Jacobus Anthonie Meessen article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Jacobus Anthonie Meessen is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.

This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on December 5, 2019.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
October 7, 2014	Good article nominee	Listed
May 13, 2015	Featured article candidate	Promoted
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 16, 2014. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Jacobus Anthonie Meessen* spent six years photographing the Dutch East Indies in the 1860s, then gave an album of the best images to his king?*
Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on December 5, 2021, and December 5, 2022.
Current status: Featured article

Biography: Arts and Entertainment

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the arts and entertainment work group (assessed as Low-importance).

Netherlands

	Netherlands portal This article falls within the scope of WikiProject Netherlands, an attempt to create, expand, and improve articles related to the Netherlands on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, visit the project page where you can join the project or contribute to the discussion.NetherlandsWikipedia:WikiProject NetherlandsTemplate:WikiProject NetherlandsNetherlands articles
	A Netherlands Did you know article.

Indonesia Low‑importance

	Indonesia portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Indonesia, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Indonesia and Indonesia-related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IndonesiaWikipedia:WikiProject IndonesiaTemplate:WikiProject IndonesiaIndonesia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Photography Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Photography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of photography on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PhotographyWikipedia:WikiProject PhotographyTemplate:WikiProject PhotographyPhotography articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Possibly useful?[edit]

http://kranten.delpher.nl/nl/view/index?query=+Meessen+fotograaf+&coll=ddd&image=ddd%3A110535533%3Ampeg21%3Aa0021&page=1&maxperpage=10&facets[periode]=0|19e_eeuw|
http://kranten.delpher.nl/nl/view/index?query=+Meessen+fotograaf+&coll=ddd&image=ddd%3A011101304%3Ampeg21%3Aa0009&page=1&maxperpage=10&facets[periode]=0|19e_eeuw|
http://kranten.delpher.nl/nl/view/index?query=+Meessen+fotograaf+&coll=ddd&image=ddd%3A010506564%3Ampeg21%3Aa0001&page=1&maxperpage=10&facets[periode]=0|19e_eeuw|
http://kranten.delpher.nl/nl/view/index?query=+Meessen+fotograaf+&coll=ddd&image=ddd%3A010485814%3Ampeg21%3Aa0028&page=1&maxperpage=10&facets[periode]=0|19e_eeuw|
http://gorredijkhistorie.nl/index.php/nl/page/view/171 - The school that Jacob built. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:58, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jacobus Anthonie Meessen/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: CaroleHenson (talk · contribs) 02:18, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Looks like an interesting article. I'll be working on the review and post it within the next day or so.--CaroleHenson (talk) 02:18, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Overview[edit]

The article is very well-written and interesting. There are inline citations to reliable sources. Since the sources are Dutch, I will assume that the content was properly paraphrased. The layout, sections, etc. follow Manual of Style guidelines. The article is written with a neutral point of view and covers the subject well, without going into unnecessary detail. It is stable. There are a couple of Meesseen's photographs in the article, which are in the public domain and are properly tagged in commons. I tried to find an image of Meessen and some additional further reading items in English, with no luck.

Content[edit]

In the intro, "Meessen's first experience in the Indies were in that field." - do you mean "experiences" or "was"?

Yes, done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:05, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In "...where the Meessens established a photographic studio", should it be photography studio?

Yes, done. (facepalm) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:05, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding: "Meessen worked alone, never taking a partner while in the colony, and documented the land and people in the colony" is the first "in the colony" needed - or is there a way to rephrase one of them?

Reworked to "Indies", as otherwise we'd include his work with Vermeulen. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:05, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

General comments[edit]

That's all that I could find, you did a great job!--CaroleHenson (talk) 03:09, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Carole! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:05, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

- Looks good! My pleasure!--CaroleHenson (talk) 04:48, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Questions[edit]

I have a couple of questions that may hopefully help to further improve the article:

The lead says that Meessen "was a Dutch photographer who took over 250 portraits and landscapes of the Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia) between 1864 and 1870" seems like a rather limited definition. Where does this number of 250 come from, the album he made for the king? And did he only photograph in the East and in those six or seven years?
The article says he died in Opsterland, but this is an administrative entity and not a settlement. The obituary mentions Beetsterzwaag, is this the place where he died?
If he worked as an architect for several years, are there any other buildings he designed, besides the school that was not even completed by him or during his lifetime?

Thanks. – Editør (talk) 09:34, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Main page appearance[edit]

This is to let people know that this article has been scheduled as today's featured article for December 5, 2019, and specifically paging the FA nominator(s), Crisco 1492. It would be good if someone checked that the article needs no amendments. The main page blurb text can be viewed and edited at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/December 5, 2019.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:09, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Photo of subject[edit]

There is currently no photo of the subject in this article. Given that he was a photographer, albeit an early one, I would have expected there to be something. Can anything be found? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:59, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]