Talk:Franklin Knight Lane

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Legislature vote for Senator[edit]

It seems like a good idea to inaugurate this talk page with some discussion of Lane receiving the Democratic vote in the legislature for Senate. Now, remember, in 1903, the legislatures still elected Senators. The famed debates between Lincoln and Douglas were to get people to elect Illinois state legislators of their parties. In 1902, Lane lost the gubernatorial election, possibly due to shady activities by the Republicans. The legislature stayed Republican. It didn't matter who the Democrats voted for, for Senate, that person wasn't going to win. So, apparently as a protest, they voted for Lane. If this can be made clearer in the article, while still keeping within the sources, please feel free to do so.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you should mention the significance of that, since it holds an important position in the lead. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:33, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • What about, "Friends of Lane said after his death that had he not been born in what is now Canada, he would have become president." My friends say I should be king. Does that count? —Mattisse (Talk) 03:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You're not the Stuart pretender, are you? It's legit. I have at least one ref that says that he would have been a solid candidate in 1920 had he been US born. Do you think it reads oddly? I can play with the language.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:36, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
But by whom? If it is a "friend", well, friends will say anything. —Mattisse (Talk) 03:45, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I get your point, it is skating close to weasel wording. I saw something that said that if Lane had been eligible he would have been better than Cox in 1920, I'll insert something into the body and modify the lede.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Other[edit]

Lane later wrote, "I put myself through college by working on vacation and after hours, and I am very glad I did it." - this is not a memorable quote. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not of itself, I agree, but I'm trying to paint his protrait (not OR, just from the paint by numbers I am given) as the self made man, who worked his way up from little or nothing, saw public service as the highest honor a man could have, served his city and country for twenty years, and wound up with so little money two future presidents had to pull together to form a fund to support his wife.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:35, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That is a great point. I like to see thinking and perspectives like this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nstonaker (talkcontribs) 03:43, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

First paragraph: '...died of angina pectoris'. Angina pectoris is a symptom - a pain, usually felt in the chest. By definition it is treatable and reversible. It indicates that someone is at risk of suffering a heart attack. But one cannot 'die' of angina pectoris. Did Lane in fact suffer a heart attack?

I've changed it. There was some difficulty following a heart operation, the sources aren't 100% clear.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:20, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Graduate or not?[edit]

Can't make out whether he graduated from this "From 1884 to 1886, he attended the University of California at Berkeley, though he did not graduate.[2] Lane later wrote, "I put myself through college by working on vacation and after hours, and I am very glad I did it."[6] He later received honorary Doctor of Laws degrees from the University of California, from New York University, Brown University, and the University of North Carolina.[7] After graduation, he worked as a reporter for the San Francisco Chronicle (henceforth Chronicle).[1]" Smallbones (talk) 00:57, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch. At one point, I thought he graduated. This was brought up in the second FAC and it seems it did not and the source is not incorrect, but misleading. I'll make a change.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:48, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

CSDed article[edit]

If anyone saw the CSD, my apologies. I accidentally CSDed the article while trying to copy from the CSD template. I'm very sorry. I've reverted my edit. BejinhanTalk 04:20, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Franklin K Lane High School U.C. Berkeley[edit]

It's so odd. After graduating from Franklin K. Lane High School, I attended the University of California at Berkeley (Just as Franklin K. Lane did). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.14.16.187 (talk) 03:45, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Source problem[edit]

User:Wehwalt, is me again.

Those two sources, two urls are exactly the same, which leds to title "Lane defends railroads", wrong url?

  • "Car shortage costly" (PDF), The New York Times, January 3, 1907, retrieved 2009-01-27
  • "Lane defends railroads" (PDF), The New York Times, 1906-12-23, retrieved 2009-01-27

--Jarodalien (talk) 01:13, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thanks for catching it.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:15, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Now a FA in Chinese Wikipedia[edit]

I have translated this article to Chinese Wikipedia here and promoted to FA status, and I want to thank User:Wehwalt for his effort to write this amazing article. --Jarodalien (talk) 08:22, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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