Talk:Foreign national

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does this apply to people to aren't in the country? like does this definition (in the US) apply to everyone in the world who's not a US citizen or just those who are currently living in the US who were born in other countries, citizens of another country, etc...? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.183.13.15 (talk) 19:15, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Global applicability of definition

Some countries call premanent residents who do not have citizenship foreign nationals too ? Ronnam (talk) 03:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

It is difficult to believe that this entry is so short and that no one has expanded it before now. It still remains as a stub, though I have added some legal information and included a web citation to the Brookhaven National Lab (not a law-making body, and therefore still not officially the correct source for the U.S. definition).

Also, since every country has its own definition of what constitutes a "foreign national", the definition I have provided is entirely Amero-centric (and that from a U.S. citizen!) and requires much broadening. What is the definition used by the European Union? Russia? China? Japan? The United Kingdom and its satellites? India, Pakistan, Indonesia, and all of the African countries?
KDS4444 05:31, 13 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by KDS4444 (talk • contribs)

Update: it appears that the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations uses the term "foreign national" with regularity, though I am having difficulty identifying an actual definition. Referencing the Vienna Convention would obviate having to rely upon a US definition, and could be used to refute/ remove one of the tags currently resting on this entry. --KDS4444 22:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Agree. Singapore has two categories: Locals and foreign nationals. Locals encompass citizens and permanent residents. Foreign nationals are those who are on social visit passes or work passes etc.

A strict definition would mean 63.6% locals and 36.4% foreign nationals, but the broad definition accepted would mean 74.3% locals and 25.7% foreign nationals (2010 census). Similarly in the labour force, there would be 58.3% locals and 41.7% foreign nationals strictly, but the government-published reports always quote these figures as 69.7% locals and 30.3% foreign nationals (October 2011 MOM).

Could include a line in the article on how these percentages could be subject to manipulation by defining the terms differently in the absence of any internationally-accepted definition. --220.255.1.95 (talk) 04:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

On Terrorism

Today I removed a link to the subject of "terrorism" within this entry. Nothing about foreign nationals has anything directly to do with terrorism, and a great deal of terrorism is performed by citizens of their own countries. KDS4444^Talk--KDS4444 11:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Today, and for the second time, I have removed a reference to terrorism within the entry of a foreign national. I am open to hearing a compelling argument for its inclusion, but have yet to receive one. KDS4444^Talk —Preceding undated comment added 19:57, 30 April 2009 (UTC).

A mess

The lead gives a definition and then immediately illustrates it with an example that contradicts that definition. There is no hint that this definition might not apply to the US, but the US section gives yet another non-equivalent definition, followed by an incompatible "further explanation", crowned with an unsourced assumption that is flat-out irreconcilable with all of the preceding.  --Lambiam 23:32, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Your references are outdated on this page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.94.65.56 (talk) 15:41, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

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