Talk:El-Tigani el-Mahi

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the science and academia work group (assessed as Low-importance).

Africa: Sudan

	Africa portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Africa, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Africa on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.AfricaWikipedia:WikiProject AfricaTemplate:WikiProject AfricaAfrica articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Sudan.

Medicine Low‑importance

	Medicine portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Medicine, which recommends that medicine-related articles follow the Manual of Style for medicine-related articles and that biomedical information in any article use high-quality medical sources. Please visit the project page for details or ask questions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine.MedicineWikipedia:WikiProject MedicineTemplate:WikiProject Medicinemedicine articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Politics Mid‑importance

	Politics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

A fact from El-Tigani el-Mahi appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 June 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that El-Tigani el-Mahi pioneered studies on magic and zār and their relationship to mental health?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/El-Tigani el-Mahi.

Wikipedia

This article was created or expanded as part of the activities of The Wiki AfroDemics Project.

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 15:19, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(

Comment or view
Article history

)

... that El-Tigani el-Mahi was dubbed the "Father of African Psychiatry"? Source: The Mahi-Baasher Heritage, page 89
- ALT1: ... that El-Tigani el-Mahi pioneered studying magic and zār relationship to mental health? Source: Sickness and the spirits: a study of the Zaar spirit possession cult in the northern Sudan page 280
  Al-Tijani Al-Mahi.. Pioneer of psychiatry in Sudan.. Old stories about Al-Zar (in Arabic)
- ALT2: ... that El-Tigani el-Mahi had in his collection coins that date back to the Alexander the Great era? Source: Professor Tigani El Mahi: Short biography and photos
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chadd Cumberbatch
- Comment: I like the ALT1, magic seems to attract people to read an article

Created by FuzzyMagma (talk). Self-nominated at 09:02, 15 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/El-Tigani el-Mahi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - Earwig shows 44.8% violation possible

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Biggest problem is possible copyvio. Second biggest problem is QPQ needed. Once that's fixed, we can look at ALT1, the most interesting hook here. 〜 Festucalex • talk 06:08, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Festucalex: I think the copyvio issues relates to the quote. QPQ is being done FuzzyMagma (talk) 00:05, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@FuzzyMagma: Waiting for you to do the QPQ. Meanwhile, I'll ping @BorgQueen for advice on the copyvio situation, because it's indeed the quote that's tripping earwig up. This is only my second ever review, I'm not entirely confident in ignoring the 44.8%. 〜 Festucalex • talk 05:16, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the article will need a bit of rewriting. @Nikkimaria: care to take a look? BorgQueen (talk) 15:13, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BorgQueen: maybe you did that already, but would it possible for to click on "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" and see if "a bit of rewriting" is still warranted. FuzzyMagma (talk) 15:44, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks OK now, after I've copyedited it myself. BorgQueen (talk) 16:30, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BorgQueen: So, just for the sake of my own elucidation, the next time I review a DYK and face this problem, I just copyedit the article myself? 〜 Festucalex • talk 17:18, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Festucalex: not to overstep, but if you can copy edit the text of an article, that is always good (at least that is what I do). But if it’s beyond repair you can just tag it and ask the promoter to fix it. As for this specific case, you can go through the edit history in the article and see what BorgQueen did, which basically reducing the size (while keeping the core message) of the quotation to address your concerns about copyvio 19:25, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 needed some slight tweaking as I feel like it was not worded just right. I have made the hook mirror the article text without changing the intent.
ALT1a: ... that El-Tigani el-Mahi pioneered studies on magic and zār and their relationship to mental health? Perhaps @Ravenpuff: can help tweak further while it is in Prep? Bruxton (talk) 15:17, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]