Talk:Christian Democratic Appeal

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Name[edit]

Is the translation of CDA into English correct? Does Appel mean 'appeal'? Maybe some linguists can brief us on the proper meaning of the word appel in Dutch and then let us know the Enlish translation.

Yes, appèl indeed means appeal . I'm dutch so I ought to now.

C_mon 11:00 Januari 11, 2005.

The section regarding the formation of the current cabinet was a bit messy, with some mistakes. Cleaned it up; but appreciate your comments. Wasnt it so that the Dutch electorate sought refuge with the CDA after the LPF debacle and not in 2002?--Prudentia 02:17, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, many Dutch people who had wanted to vote Fortuyn weren't sure anymore after he was murdered. The Purple cabinet remained impopular and the only viable and stable alternative was the CDA. In the 2003 elections, after the LPF debacle, the CDA only increased its share of the seats with 1 seat.--84.26.116.26 11:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1994-present - 1918?[edit]

The "1994-present" section links the date 1918. I don't know if the year is wrong, or the sentence is unclear and actually referring to something from 1918. Will leave for someone else to determine/fix :) --Quiddity 07:09, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was indeed the first time since 1918 that there was a coalition without Christian Democrats the year is right. C mon 08:47, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So the word "since" ought to be in there? So add it already! (done) -Quiddity 19:54, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CDA[edit]

I think that this political party would be more comparable to American Republicans than to Democrats

Why so? I'm a member of this party and I identify with the Democrats. And I'm pretty sure that most of my fellow members do (Bush is quite unpopular in the CDA). The CDA is a party that has links with European conservatism, but that kind of conservatism would be considered more liberal in American politics. I think that this article places the CDA very well in the American political spectrum. You could say that if the CDA had been an American party it would have been composed of DINO's and RINO's, right in the centre of US politics. --84.26.116.26 10:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The CDA is pretty conservative on social issues.........they want to end the toleration of soft drugs and limit prostitution......that is VERY conservative. And according to many sources they want to profile coffee shop users! Not liking Bush doesn't mean that they are not closer to American republicans......most Republicans (and 70%of the US) disagrees with many of Bush's policies like the Iraq war. Zachorious 22:14, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

True, when you look at the CDA in relation to the Dutch political spectrum it emerges as the more conservative force in Dutch politics, but when you compare it to the US Republican Party it's comparable to the pro-life wing of the Democratic Party. The Dutch political spectrum is very different from the American one. The other two Christian parties in the Netherlands, the ChristianUnion and the Staatkundig Gereformeerde Partij are, I think, closer to the Republicans. They are arguably the most conservative parties in the Netherlands, moreso than the CDA.

May I also point out that a recent poll suggests that most Dutchmen support the plan of the Amsterdam city administration to shut down the Amsterdam red light district. The largely Social Democratic (that means the Dutch Labour Party) administration has concluded that it doesn't contribute to a better position for the women employed there. What I'm trying to say is that the idea of limiting prostitution isn't that conservative anymore.--84.26.1.92 (talk) 20:11, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

academic titles of leaders[edit]

Both JP Balkenende and E Brinkman list their academic titles as mr. dr. Why is this.

In the Netherlands it is customary to place the highest academic title first; i.e.: prof dr ir. The dr. title stands for a Ph.D. (and replaces drs when a drs completes a phd but is added to ir (MSc in engineering) and mr (MSc in law). The mr. stands for master of laws, which in the Dutch systems a title at the level of (but never above) MSc, which is actually a prerequisite to start a PhD program in health.

So why is in this case the mr. title put before the higher academic phd title? Arnoutf (talk) 18:03, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lubbers conservative[edit]

Hello Blueboy, is it really so that Lubbers stands for conservative politics? In spite of his slogans in the 80s, he can hardly be called e.g. a member of the right wing of his party.--Ziko (talk) 18:46, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The whole party is conservative, even the left wing. Nevertheless the statement that it is currently more centrist than in the past seems utterly out of place. Since left wing critics (like Klink) were fairly brutally silenced, the party is more right wing than it has ever been before. Arnoutf (talk) 20:53, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of discussion involving this article[edit]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics/Political parties regarding the inclusion of the party flag in the infobox of this article. The thread is Party flags in infoboxes. Thank you. — Ætoms ^[talk] 23:53, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Center-Right or just Center?[edit]

The party, while historically on the more conservative side of parliament, has now had the Overton window shift around it to such a degree that is firmly out of the broader right-wing block, in all practicality. Would it not then be more accurate to say it is just Center, or maybe even Center-left? 172.59.187.186 (talk) 19:05, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any sources calling them firmly center? Center-left is in any case inaccurate Dajasj (talk) 19:14, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They are and remain (as most religious parties) conservative - which is not necessarily right or left (the Dutch socialist party is e.g. also conservative). They used to be true center but as far as I know never center-left. But in the recent decades they have been definitely been more center-right than true center indeed (and I think there are many sources that would confirm that). Under the new leadership there seems indeed to be the intention to re-orient more towards the center (less right), but whether that has fully been internalised throughout the organisation (and is not only visible with the current party leader) is not very obvious. So yes, some reorientation seems to have started but as Dajasj mentions we need sources that this shift is picked up by reliable secondary analysis as something of substance. Arnoutf (talk) 19:21, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]