Talk:Chat Moss

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Date	Process	Result
November 14, 2007	Good article nominee	Listed
December 31, 2007	Featured article candidate	Promoted

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GA[edit]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality:

B. MoS compliance:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources:

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
Only image properly tagged

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Is it possible to get a picture as it is today? There may be one on Geograph, but I won't fail it for lack of a photograph.
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Thank you very much for the review. I'll see about getting a photograph of the moss as it is today and adding it to the article, as you suggest. --Malleus Fatuarum (talk) 19:59, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mining[edit]

Was there every any coal mining in or under Chat Moss? The Astley Green Colliery, near Tyldesley, is on the edge of the moss and the way I read the information on this site I think there was some activity. It's not entirely clear, but if there was it's worth looking for a more detailed source to briefly add it to the article. Nev1 (talk) 16:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate this is a late reply but I've not read anything that doesn't refer to the area as once being something of a cess-pit, to which people normally travelled either to dump nightsoil, or fall off their horse and die. Apparently before it was drained in the 19th century it was a very inhospitable place, I doubt anyone would have ventured in there to try and dig a bell pit. There are also reports of 'explosions' of water (sideways from the limits) onto adjoining lands, during Tudor times. Parrot of Doom (talk) 15:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wind farm[edit]

Apparently there are proposals for a wind farm at Chat Moss ([1]). Might be one to watch for this article. :) --Jza84 | Talk 14:10, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Worth mentioning on the portal under news? We need to keep it updated, the FAs and GAs are out of date, and the news is 6 months old. Nev1 (talk) 14:23, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, I'll definitely keep an eye on that. --Malleus Fatuorum 15:49, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've never much seen the point of portals (do they actually serve readers or editors?), but I'll see if I can update some stuff. I've just updated our page at Wikimedia Commons - perhaps some of those can be used as featured pictures? --Jza84 | Talk 16:17, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Portals have the potential to be useful, but the fact is they don't attract many readers [2] and I don't think it should detract effort away from articles. That said, User:Joshii has nominated the GM portal for Featured Portal status, so I think we should give him some support. Nev1 (talk) 01:51, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do people come across portals? Where are they linked from that a regular reader (not one of us) might see them? Or be encouraged to look at them? --Malleus Fatuorum 01:56, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly don't know, by the time I came across portals, I'd been using wikipedia for a while and I don't remember how I found it. I probably found the Cheshire portal through the project page. Nev1 (talk) 02:00, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maintenance or Railway[edit]

Does the railway over Chat Moss continue to sink, and require the deposition of ever more soil and ballast to keep the railway above water level? In this regard it may be similar to the railway over Hexham Swamp in New South Wales. Tabletop (talk) 13:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be very surprised if it did, since that whole area must surely be completely drained by now. Parrot of Doom 17:56, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

British English[edit]

Not sure if this is intentional, I thought articles, even those that are region specific, are supposed to use American or some site-accepted form of standard English that was favored (not favoured).

"collected from neighbouring towns" should perhaps be changed neighboring. Also I don't think this is front page worthy.

B137 (talk) 16:20, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You thought incorrectly. In Britain, we speak English, which is the standard. In America, you speak American English. Parrot of Doom 16:26, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The policy is ENGVAR. Articles on topics with a strong national connection - which covers this, a location in England - use the national variety of English. Other articles generally go by the first recognizable variety used in the history of the article. There is no such thing as a worldwide "standard English", hence no such thing as a Wikipedia standard English. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:34, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake I was thinking of this template Template:British English and/or another similar one which I swear I used to see on articles saying something like "may not represent a worldly view of the subject matter"..."possible rewording" but I see it says concensus needed. B137 (talk) 17:30, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@B137: You may be thinking of {{globalize}}. That's used on articles that are supposed to be about a global topic but which describes it in terms specific to a few countries. Chat Moss is in only one country, so {{globalize}} would be inapplicable. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:40, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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