Talk:Célestine Galli-Marié

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Name[edit]

Célestine Marié is the name used in the New Grove

(re unsigned/dated comment above) In fact Galli-Marié is the name used in the 1997 New Grove Opera (ie under G) - not Célestine Marié; Galli-Marié was her stage name and the one to which she always referred. Does the page title need to be changed? Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 22:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's correct. The 1992 Grove gives Galli-Marié. I think it should be moved. --Klein zach 22:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to move it, but couldn't. We'll need an admin to fix it. --Klein zach 08:23, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for following up this. Just for information the edition of Grove I use is a 1998 paperback of the 1997 edition.

Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 23:01, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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A major exception to this is the title role of Carmen.[edit]

I deleted this sentence. Carmen is often enough sung by sopranos. Kostaki mou (talk) 03:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

'Galli-Marié' voice type[edit]

I cannot find any reference to the statement in the last sentence anywhere - can anyone help, or can it be deleted? Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 22:07, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's not very well expressed, but Carmen is sometimes sung by a soprano. --Klein zach 08:24, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I apologise for not being clear; the phrase I am querying is

A high mezzo-soprano voice is sometimes referred to as "Galli-Marié." I have never heard of this and would be interested if there is a reference. Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 22:58, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You'll find a reference to it as a voice type on page 130 of The abuse of the singing and speaking voice, causes, effects and treatment by Jean Gabriel Émile Moure (1910) – complete text in (not very good) English translation here.

"The Galli-Marie belongs to the mezzo-soprano style as regards the range of voice; but, not being truly a dramatic mezzo-soprano, its voice, lighter than the latter, lends itself more easily to the grace and suppleness of opera-comique; thus we see it by the parts of Carmen, Mignon, Rose Friquet, Piccinina, in Fior d'Aliza, Piccolino, Kaleb in Lara, etc., that it has created and by the style to which it has given its name. It was, in short, an opera-comique mezzo-soprano, as is now the part of Charlotte in Massenet's Werther..."

I don't know how frequently it is used though. Voceditenore (talk) 08:16, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for uncovering that. I have tweaked the text and put in a reference. Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 11:06, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:23, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Célestine Marié → Célestine Galli-Marié — Her stage name was Galli-Marié, not just Marié. This move has general support on the talk page. Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 23:14, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support Appears to be uncontroversial. Skinsmoke (talk) 20:59, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Célestine Galli-Marié (1837–1905) was a French mezzo-soprano who is most famous for creating the title role in the opera Carmen by Georges Bizet. It was said that, during the opera's 33rd performance on 2 June 1875, Galli-Marié had a premonition of Bizet's death while singing in the third act, and fainted when she left the stage; the composer in fact died that night and the next performance was cancelled due to her indisposition. This photograph by Nadar depicts Galli-Marié as the titular character in Carmen.

Photograph credit: Nadar; restored by Adam Cuerden

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Bravo![edit]

In this caption, "Galli-Marié premiered the rôle [sic] of Mignon in 1866." I used the same spelling in the article on Les Troyens and it was reverted by a gang of Philistines. I hope they are enjoying their comic books! Autodidact1 (talk) 04:02, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]