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Speaking French

According to this, there is supposedly a People article where he mentions speaking French. Someone should try to find that source. Wknight94 talk 12:11, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

How about an actual video? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.163.254.1 (talk) 14:00, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
How are you claiming that video is a source? Does he say where he studied? Does it say he speaks "fluent" French? Even if it does, it's someone talking about themselves so WP:SELFPUB and needing verification. You have a better chance with http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20286689,00.html. It still doesn't say he lived in France but at least claims in print that he is fluent. Wknight94 talk 15:49, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps if you clarified what you wanted in the first place with your initial question, you would have gotten a better response. You asked for an article where "he mentions speaking French". I gave you a video of him speaking French. Next time specify what you actually want, and don't berate the person who tried to help you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.163.255.1 (talk) 16:32, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
What a useless statement. Do you want to improve the article? Or pretend that I berated you? Wknight94 talk 17:50, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello Pot, meet Kettle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.163.255.1 (talk) 18:07, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay, anyway, back to the article - how about that People link instead of the video itself? Anyone have a reference for the lived in France claim? Wknight94 talk 18:23, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Not the greatest for RS, but... here or maybe here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.163.255.1 (talk) 18:45, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Denver Post seems good enough to me. It's not like we're saying something controversial here - it's just a matter of how best to write and source it. What's there now is stupid so I'll unprotect - feel free to use those sources. Wknight94 talk 20:09, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
I dropped the sourced content with these sources into the article. I also removed the whole bit about the particular interview where the French reporter was surprised. A French reporter who didn't do her homework on her subject is not very noteworthy. Wknight94 talk 22:40, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

the caption 'bradley cooper playing in the water' should be changed

the caption of a photo 'bradley cooper playing in the water' should be changed. makes him sound like a three year old imo.

Are we sure it's even legitimate to use? It's all over the Internet, and may be copyrighted. --Ebyabe (talk) 02:55, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Article organization

Might the information about Cooper studying at the New School be better suited as the opening for the "Career" section rather than "Early life" as it is directly related to his career and it was while he attended the drama program that he began working in the industry?Abadguitarist (talk) 23:21, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

I understand your point, but I think it's okay where it is. Thanks for all your work on the article.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:31, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Villanova/Education

Should we be listing a school Cooper only briefly attended and did not receive a degree from as his alma mater in the infobox? It also looks like the article is missing a source for this fact about his education.

I also think the degrees received from the schools he did graduate from should be included as short form (MFA instead of Master of Fine Arts, BA for Bachelor of Arts) to keep the infobox clean and free of unnecessary content Abadguitarist (talk) 15:38, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I've added a source for the Villanova info from ESPN--Abadguitarist (talk) 16:28, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
To address your earlier point, the alma mater field is not clear whether it requires that a person graduated from it to be included. My view is it's better to include only those schools where the person obtained a degree. I also don't think it's necessary to have the degrees in the infobox at all.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:33, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Style and other problems

An IP, in one edit, made many changes to the formatting of the article, as well as adding lists and categories. The edit violates WP:OVERLINK, wikilinking words like London, American, Pennsylvania, and many more. The IP violated WP:CAT adding container categories like Category:20th-century American people. The edit added a See also section with useless lists (like List of Georgetown University alumni, even though there is already a category for that) and generic portals like biography, film, theater, and television. The edit added bullets to the infobox for alma mater, even though bullets are non-customary. The edit changed the style of years active in the infobox from 1999-present to "Since 1999".

I reverted because it was done as one edit and I didn't feel like going back in and undoing all the problems, while leaving some possibly valid edits in place. The IP reverted and told me to take it here, so I'm doing that, but I'm also going to revert again because it's contrary to style. The IP will have to justify the edits.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:45, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I Want to Marry Ryan Banks

On Oct 25 an IP made an edit to the career section changing "Cooper starred in the ABC family film I Want to Marry Ryan Banks..." to "Cooper appeared in the ABC family film I Want to Marry Ryan Banks..." without explanation. On the I Want to Marry Ryan Banks article Cooper is listed in a starring role. Cooper more than "appears" in this film. Given that this information is in the same sentence as that of Jack and Bobby in which his recurring role is more accurately described as an "appearance," I think this statement is slightly misleading. Is there a reason the line needed to be changed to say "appeared"? If someone has taken offense to the term "starred," I suggest the line should read "Cooper co-starred with Jason Priestley in the ABC family film I Want to Marry Ryan Banks."--Abadguitarist (talk) 17:40, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Irish American

No source is cited in support of this claim. It looks suspicious to me. Apart from anything, "Cooper" is a typically English surname, and not at all common in Ireland (where it is present in Ireland it is usually easily traced to an English root). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiresman (talk • contribs) 15:19, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

The article states that his mother is Italian-American and his father is Irish-American.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:35, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Cooper's paternal grandmother, born Anna Mae Cahill, was the daughter of a pair of Irish immigrants, Patrick Francis Cahill and Bridget T. Welsh. Cooper's paternal grandfather was named Charles F. Cooper. I am not sure if he was of Irish descent, but it is possible. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 01:17, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

I doubt it, his surnames English.86.152.28.47 (talk) 22:32, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

You are aware that surnames drift away from their originating ethnicity all the time, correct? All that's required is that two generations of fathers marry outside of the originating ethnicity and the two have been decoupled. 97.82.232.141 (talk) 12:13, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
The sources do not cite he is English, therefore no matter what his last name appears to be we cannot write that he is English. However, it seems like the same thing happened with Scottish Coopers. See this link. 108.93.72.117 (talk) 02:36, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Kampanos is also a very common Greek surname, just check google: Aris Kampanos, Konstantinos Kampanos, Iraklis Kampanos, Georgios Kampanos......124.187.107.114 (talk)

Interesting source for Bradley Cooper's mothers' ethnicity : Kampana + bell in Greek. Kampanos (Greek: Καμπανός) is a community and a village in Chania regional unit on the island of Crete, Greece. It is the seat of the municipal unit of East Selino (Anatoliko Selino). The community consists of the following villages (population in 2001): Kampanos, pop. 205 Maralia, pop. 40 The village is in a basin surrounded by very old olive oil trees, close to the village an old school is located which is the town hall of East Selino. The village is 52km from Chania city center,about 1,10 hours 124.187.107.114 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:26, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Sex & The City plus...

Corrected misleading credit: the description made it seem like "Sex & the City" was HIS show, originally written here as: "Cooper began his professional acting career with his first television show 'Sex and the City' in 1999". You see the problem there? Corrected that. Also separated what was originally the second half of that sentence into a sentence of its own, and clarified it. Originally written as: "... also served as a 'presenter' for Globe Trekker I edited to correctly identify that program's host position which the program itself refers to as their "traveller". By the way, this article is a real whitewash of Cooper's career. To add some balance, more mention of early appearances in disposable films such as "Bending All The Rules" should be mentioned in the prose; more than merely the Filmography listing. I'd add something myself about it right now but no time at the moment, just happened to (try to) watch the movie on late night movie channel. Happy Holidays to all~ Penwatchdog (talk) 15:09, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Possible picture

So I came across this picture on Commons where Cooper is participating in a Center for American Progress event. I think this would go well in the personal life section, since Cooper endorses several groups like Alzheimer's Association and The National Geographic Society. Not sure if others agree with it, but I figured I might as well throw it out there. Famous Hobo (talk) 21:38, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Clearly the picture is of very high quality and would probably look really good in the article but don't you think it's better to have a picture of Cooper alone? FrB.TG (talk) 21:54, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Former and Latter

You can only use these (former and/or latter) when there are two items in a list -- not when there are three. I don't have time to straighten this out, so anyone is welcome to do so. 148.177.1.224 (talk) 12:54, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

I checked "latter" in Apple dictionary - it has two meanings; one denotes the second, the other is something occurring nearer to the end than beginning. With the latter being the case here, I don't think its usage is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8108:1BF:AB8C:A0CF:6E28:C8B0:7247 (talk) 13:54, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

TFAR

Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Bradley Cooper --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:01, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2017

Bradley Cooper, as of recently, has been seen in the recurring presence of Mayela Cameron under date-like circumstances. This new development in Cooper's life is extraordinary because Mayela is of Spanish descent and lives in a small rural town teaching as a Spanish teacher. Since he has swept her off her feet, she has grown into the life of fame. This information should be included in the personal life segment of the article. Rhymeswithorangelarkbball (talk) 02:02, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Also you need consensus. - Mlpearc (open channel) 02:05, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

My previous edit was accurate

Bradley is due to be a father this year, and I posted this in an edit along with his partners. Not sure why this was removed if I included reputable sources. CB19 (talk) 23:18, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

The reason I removed that was because I believe we should add it in the article when the child is born. – FrB.TG (talk) 08:54, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

No Filmography

Why on earth does this page not have a list of films that Cooper has stared in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:B859:2E20:34B0:7252:E73A:FA8B (talk) 20:31, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

It's the link Bradley Cooper on screen and stage in the "Works and Awards" section. The list is already pretty big and it's still growing, so adding it could make this article unwieldy and hard to navigate. CityOfSilver 20:34, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
... so people searching for filmography will find nothing.... clever.... 86.188.57.157 (talk) 14:04, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
... because he's such a huge theatre actor he currently has 3 theatre credits on his "screen and stage" page.... 86.188.57.157 (talk) 14:06, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
His filmography is already a featured article... putting it in this page would make it run too long. We have quality standards. If someone really wants to find his filmography that badly all they have to do is type it in the search bar and the page will redirect to Bradley Cooper on screen and stage. Trillfendi (talk) 16:12, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
No one is asking for the filmography to be put on this page - merely that the word "filmography" is used... who on earth is going to search a page for the phrase "stage and screen" ??? 86.188.57.157 (talk) 10:37, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

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From the Lede

"For his work in these films, Cooper was nominated for Academy Awards—two for Best Actor, one for Best Supporting Actor, and one for Best Picture."

Cooper was nominated for Best Picture? I mean I guess he's handsome, but that is taking it too far, don't you think? 91.10.62.78 (talk) 17:00, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

I’m not sure what his being nominated for Best Picture (which is an Oscar category) has anything to do with his looks. He was nominated for Best Actor for acting in and Best Picture (Best Film) for co-producing American Sniper. FrB.TG (talk) 22:42, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2018

Peak chart positions 114.77.53.199 (talk) 06:42, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

 Not done You need to say what edit you want to be made. Fish+Karate 09:11, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Discography

Considering that A Star Is Born and many of the songs sung by Cooper from the soundtrack has charted (like "Maybe Its Time", "Shallow" etc), should a discography section be added to the article? —IB [ Poke ] 07:24, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

List of Bradley Cooper performances#Discography FrB.TG (talk) 08:30, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2019

Elizabeth Kemp has died so Change She has since advised him on many of his films. to She advised him on many of his films. 153.187.222.117 (talk) 12:47, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 15:14, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

A Star Is Born info under Career section

It states that Cooper made a remake of the "1937 musical film of the same name". It should be changed to the "1937 original film of the same name" or something to that effect. It's also linked "music film of the same name" to the 1937 non-musical version, which is erroneous. Letmejustcorrectthatforyou (talk) 13:57, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Inaccurate Information - Semi-protected edit request on 19 February 2017

Please change Bradley Cooper's MFA from "The New School" to "Actors Studio Drama School" because Bradley Cooper never attended The New School. He attended Pace University's Actors Studio Drama School... I'm attaching a link from Pace Univ. claiming him as an alum here. StarfishMadrid (talk) 09:49, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Done Yes, he attended the "Actors Studio Drama School". At the time of his attendance, it was run by The New School, now it's run by Pace University. — Train2104 (t • c) 15:32, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
This seems to be an issue of "semantics"... in any case, the text of the article states "he received a Master of Fine Arts degree in acting from the Actors Studio Drama School at The New School", so claiming his Alma Mater to be "Actors Studio Drama School at Pace University" gives the appearance of a factual conflict. And FWIW, New School also seems to claim him as an alumnus ... see http://blogs.newschool.edu/news/2011/11/sexiest-man-alive-is-a-new-school-grad. I think we need some wording that recognizes this, e.g. "Actors Studio Drama School, Pace University (formerly part of The New School)" or something like that. Fabrickator (talk) 21:21, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

It seems quite stupid to me that the link says New School still yet links to Pace.. Cooper attended The New School. The program changing ownership in the later years does not change the school he attended. This is a really unintelligent request by Train2104 and StarfishMadrid, the link should be changed back to The New School. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calvin1022 (talk • contribs) 06:15, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done. Then what should it link to? The current link is to Actors Studio Drama School at Pace University, which does say that before 2005 it was at The New School. Keep in mind that the edit request above is from 2017. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 09:58, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Redundant personal information

Across Wikipedia, biographies feature a lead-in paragraph with general information about the person. Sundry details about spouses, relationships, divorces and children are discussed later, either in the body of the article or (more often) under a special section, "Personal Life." Some editors here wish to make this article an exception and to retread the "Personal Info" section, verbatim, under the lead paragraph. This is unencyclopedic form, and I suggest that those details be removed from the lead. Mason.Jones (talk) 16:05, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

MOS:LEADBIO: "make sure the lead correctly reflects the entirety of the article". Krimuk2.0 (talk) 16:12, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
That doesn't apply to verbatim and frivolous details, which bear on WP's encyclopedic role. The detail you wish to restore -- and mention twice -- is fine for Bollywood, not for Wikipedia. It also has no utility when details are already fully covered in the usual section (and clearly indicated in the outline). Mason.Jones (talk) 16:21, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
Again, "entirety". We don't pick and choose. We also don't look down on Bollywood, or any other film industry. :) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 16:30, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
I refer to Bollywood magazines, which are not encyclopedias. :) The MOS says: "The lead section must summarise the life and works of the person with due weight." It's quite a stretch to deduct "entirety" from that and repeat full details of a marriage(s), relationships and children in the lead. Other editors will decide. Mason.Jones (talk) 16:45, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 August 2019

Height: 6'1" (185cm) DOUBLE WHOPPER 375 (talk) 10:33, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: Unsourced, and no explanation of significance Begoon 12:39, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

11 billion

Hi,

Can anyone explain to me how you calculated 11 billion $ as his box office total? If I sum up his most suuccessful movies only, we are far beyond 11 billion. Thanx. --OrsolyaVirág (talk) 17:25, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

@OrsolyaVirág: Provide a reliable source for this assessment, otherwise that is original research. Try BoxOfficeMojo. Trillfendi (talk) 18:49, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
They are probably adding in the totals from The Avengers movies.72.174.71.134 (talk) 03:36, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 May 2020

his song shallow was a collaberation between him and lady gaga not his own single Jtedd82 (talk) 20:46, 18 May 2020 (UTC) Jtedd82 (talk) 20:46, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBriTalk 21:24, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
My internet service was interrupted as I tried to edit this. The current wording is accurate and doesn’t need to be changed. Nothing there says its his song, he simply made contributions to it. Trillfendi (talk) 22:06, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
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