Talk:Bob Meusel

Brief copy edit

I ran through the article and marked a few things as unclear. For example, in the sentence "Meusel hit for the cycle" I have no idea what that means even though I am somewhat of a baseball fan. Sincerely, Mattisse 17:19, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying. I never heard that term before. Sincerely, Mattisse 20:06, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Just looking for variation in language, as in not using "joined" twice in a row. Maybe you can think of something. Also, does your reference cover the statement about the heavy drinking and womanizing? And in the footnotes, Footnote 28 is "Eig: pg. 95". What does that mean? Thanks! Mattisse 19:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Fixed first concern. The references should cover the whole info, and it does cover the heavy drinking part. Footnote 28 is from the same book as footnote 10, but different page numbers. Thanks Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 19:46, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

"Hit for the Cycle" means that the batter, in this case Bob Meusel hit a single, a double, a triple and a home run all in one game. It is a fairly rare feat but has been done 3 times by only 3 players. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.155.110.74 (talk) 15:00, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

No, that's not true. It's been done by dozens of players throughout the history of baseball. Nishkid64 (talk) 15:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

It has been done dozens of times but only three players have done it three times.--PvtDeth 18:54, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah, okay. I misread. Nishkid64 (talk) 21:15, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Height

It seems weird that somebody has gone to all the trouble to write that he was "nicknamed "Long Bob" because of his height" and then refuse to disclose what his actual height was. Perhaps some baseball fan can remedy this oversight?129.94.6.30 01:20, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Added. Nishkid64 (talk) 05:49, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

"A great outfielder"

Is this NPOV?

His brother, Irish Meusel, was a star outfielder in the National League. He had a comparable career batting average (.310) but, unlike Bob, he had a weak throwing arm which prevented him from being a great outfielder. -MBlume 18:26, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

"Meusel was signed by the New York Yankees in August 1919"

The section "Professional career" begins, "Meusel was signed by the New York Yankees in August 1919." The sentence gives the impression that Meusel was a free agent who freely chose to move from the Vernon Tigers to the New York Yankees. Under the the reserve clause that was employed in all major and minor league contracts of the time, the only way Meusel could have become a free agent would have been for Vernon to release him. For a young player of his abilities, that almost certainly was not the case. Although I don't know the history of Meusel's case, his move to the Yankees almost surely resulted from a trade or an outright sale of his contract to the Yankees. (Another possibility is that the Yankees had obtained his contract earlier through a trade or purchase and allowed Vernon—an independent minor league team—to keep him until needed by the Yankees—an arrangement known as "farming out" that was not the same as modern farm systems. However, I think such an arrangement is unlikely in Meusel's case, since major league teams that "farmed out" players generally liked to place them with minor league teams that were geographically nearby.) I think we can rule out the possibility that Meusel was picked up in a minor league draft because his move took place mid-season; furthermore, my recollection is that the PCL and the other highest level minor leagues temporarily withdrew from their draft agreement with MLB from about 1919 until 1922 (or 1924?).

My bottom line is that the "was signed by" language is misleading. It would be best to identify whether his contract was obtained through trade or sale, but if that information isn't readily available, I'd recommend at least changing it to something like, "The New York Yankees obtained Meusel's contract in August 1919." BRMo 22:32, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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