Talk:Baku–Tbilisi–Kars railway

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Untitled[edit]

I will move this page to a new title, to preserve the geographic order of cities that this railway will connect, that is, it starts in Kars goes through Tbilisi to Baku, so it's Kars-Tbilisi-Baku railway. Google hits seem to agree on this as well [1] - 437 hits with "Kars-Tbilisi-Baku railway" vs. [2] - 7 hits with "Kars-Baku-Tbilisi railway. Thanks. Atabek (talk) 17:37, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Geography note[edit]

The page about this railroad is marked with flag as European railroad. But the map show it's proposed to be laid wholly in Asia. Should the flag to be changed on Asian railroad? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.117.3.43 (talk) 19:47, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Turkey east of the Bosposrus is undisputedly Asia. But Georgia claims it is part of Europe (it even claims to be the origin or Europe!), although geography textbooks generally consider the northern boundary of Georgia the boundary between Europe and Asia. Even Armenia considers itself part of Europa. This is politically sensitive, and there is no "official" boundary between Europe and Asia anyway. Rbakels (talk) 19:19, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]


What I don't understand that it says that a train from South Korea to Istanbul took 15 days via China and Kazhakstan? How did the train skip North Korea????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newsted81 (talk • contribs) 07:10, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Break of Gauge[edit]

Ideally the break of gauge and the main freight transhipment terminal should be at or near the national capital of Tbilisi rather than at a relatively minor border station, namely Akhalkalaki.

Tabletop (talk) 09:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pitching to be an advisor, are we? Trouble is, the line already runs to Akhalkalaki, and infact to a substantial distance beyond that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.67.58.55 (talk) 18:08, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gauge[edit]

Dual gauge tracks in Wallaroo, South Australia. The outer rail on the right is for Australia Broad Gauge (still in use by an occasional tourist train), the inner rail is for standard gauge (discontinued further along the line, and disused)

Kars–Tbilisi–Baku railway#Gauge. Dual gauge between 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) and 1520 would require 4 rails because the small difference of 85 mm (3.35 in) simply does not allow 3 rail dual gauge track. 1600 and 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in), with a difference of 165 mm (6.5 in), is about as close as one can get to be able to have 3 rail dual gauge. See rail gauge in Australia. Peter Horn User talk 01:40, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quite so! Same with 1000 and 1067 in southern Africa. However just as Russia wants to extend its broad gauge to Vienna, Europe may want to extend standard gauge to central Asia, to reduce transshipment costs. Tabletop (talk) 03:48, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There may be an expensive solution, a specially designed cross section rolled steel rail, a flanged inverted U with a groove on a wide flat top. Peter Horn User talk 19:25, 18 August 2009 (UTC) Quite so! Tabletop (talk) 10:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This might be suitable for slow speed lines only.
Rolling a special cross-section or trimming a standard rail to fit would be expensive. One solution might be to use the special flatter and thick rail used for switchblades in tangential turnouts.. Tabletop (talk) 23:52, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dual gauge between the Indian gauge of 1676 or the Iberian gauge of 1668 and the standard gauge of 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) also exists because the difference of 9.5 inches (241 mm) or 233 mm (9.17 in) allows it. Peter Horn User talk 19:12, 18 August 2009 (UTC) Peter Horn User talk 18:49, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I used "copy and paste" to send this entire discussion to Talk:Dual gauge#Dual, tripple and multiple rail gauge. Peter Horn User talk 18:35, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Completion date slipping again?[edit]

Not sure if worth updating at this point; but spotted this today quoting Azerbaijani PM: "All financial issues are settled and the railway will be built completely on the end of 2012 or may be on the beginning of 2013" http://times.am/?l=en&p=3146 Scrumph (talk) 12:14, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This page http://www.neurope.eu/article/tbilisi-baku-see-railway-completed-late-2014 says completion is now scheduled for end 2014. Rbakels (talk) 19:15, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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ბაქო-თბილისი-ყარსის პროექტი[edit]

ბაქო-თბილისი-ყარსის პროექტი არის ახალი სატრანსპორტო დერეფანი, რომელიც გააერთიანებს აზერბაიჯანის, საქართველოსა და თურქეთის სარკინიზო ხაზებს.

ამ პროექტის განხორციელების შედეგად, თურქეთის გავლით, გაიხსნება სარკინიგზო დერეფანი კასპიის ზღვიდან ევროპისკენ, რომელიც საბოლოოდ გამორიცხავს საზღვაო გზით გადაზიდვის საჭიროებას მას მერე, რაც სტამბულში, ბოსფორის სრუტეში გამავალი რკინიგზის გვირაბის მშენებლობა დასრულდება. ბაქო-თბილისი-ყარსის პროექტით ასევე შესაძლებელი იქნება დერეფნის გახსნა, რომელიც რუსეთს თურქეთთან დააკავშირებს. ამ ხაზით მოხდება როგორც სატვირთო, ისე სამგზავრო გადაყვანები და ის მოიაზრება როგორც ალტერნატიული სატვირთო ტრანსპორტირების გზა ირანიდან მომავალი არსებული სატრანზიტო გზების ნაცვლად. კომპანიის მენეჯმენტი ფიქრობს, რომ ახალი სარკინიგზო ხაზი გაზრდის ტვირთბრუნვის, კერძოდ კონტეინერებით გადაზიდვადი ტვირთის მოცულობას, თუმცა იმის გამო, რომ სარკინიგზო გზა ახალია, მენეჟმენტის აზრით, მნიშვნელოვანი მოცულობის მიზიდვას დრო დასჭირდება. ამჟამინდელი ტვირთბრუნვის მიხედვით და სარკინიგზო ხაზის დაგეგმილ დროს გახსნის შემთხვევაში, მენეჯმენტი ფიქრობს, რომ 2015 წლისთვის კომპანიას შეეძლება შეცვალოს ამჟამად არსებული მინიმუმ 2 მილიონი ტონა ტვირთის გადაზიდვის მარშრუტი (უმთავრესად მშრალი ტვირთის, რომელის გადაზიდვაც ამჟამად სატვირთო მანქანებით ხდება) თურქეთის, კავკასიის, რუსეთისა და ცენტრალური აზიას შორის.


ბაქო_თბილისი_ყარსის სარკინიგზო მაგისტრალის პროექტის განხორციელება 2007 წელს დაიწყო, მშენებლობა კი 2008 წელს და იგი ითვალისწინებს საქართველოს ტერიტორიაზე მარაბდა – ახალქალაქის სარკინიგზო ხაზის რეაბილიტაცია-რეკონსტრუქციას და ახალი სარკინიგზო ხაზის მშენებლობას ახალქალაქიდან თურქეთის საზღვრამდე.

მენეჯმენტის აზრით, თურქეთსა და ცენტრალურ აზიას შორის გაზრდილი ვაჭრობა უზრუნველყოფს მნიშვნელოვან შესაძლებლობას სავაჭრო ნაკადის მისაპოვებლად, კერძოდ ცენტრალური აზიიდან თურქეთში იმპორტირებული ნედლეულისა და თურქეთიდან ექპორტირებული პროდუქციის. თურქულ-რუსული ვაჭრობის გათვალისწინებით, მენეჯმენტის აზრით, არსებობს დამატებით მოცულობის მოპოვების შესაძლებლობა, კერძოდ მშრალი ტვირთის, რომლის გადაზიდვაც ამჟამად ირანის, ან რუსულ-შავი ზღვის გზით ხდება. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.3.110.17 (talk) 09:53, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sixth trilateral meeting[edit]

The sixth trilateral meeting (also announced [3]) seems not to have happened, why not? --Ysangkok (talk) 11:29, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Why the picture of FLIRT set?[edit]

--Oldboltonian (talk) 21:52, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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