Talk:1983 World Snooker Championship

Qualifying for the 1983 Embassy World Championship

FYI

Were on between the 29th March and the 6th April

B Kelly beat B Demarco 10-4; S Francisco beat B Kelly 10-5

P Morgan beat P Burke 10-9; G Miles beat P Morgan 10-6

Tommy Murphy beat P Houlihan 10-9; J Virgo beat Tommy Murphy 10-8

R Williams beat M Darrington 10-0; R Williams beat F Davis 10-1

M Wildman beat B Harris 10-7; M Wildman wo J Wych

R Edmonds beat F Jonik 10-4; D Reynolds beat R Edmonds 10-6

M Fisher beat P Fagan 10-8; E McLaughlin beat D Greaves 10-7; M Fisher beat E McLaughlin 10-9

T Meo beat V Harris 10-0; G Foulds beat M Gibson 10-6; T Meo beat G Foulds 10-4

I Black beat M Morra 10-9; P Medati beat John Bear 10-7; I Black beat P Medati 10-4

C Wilson beat C Everton 10-1; J Johnson beat P Watchorn 10-0; C Wilson beat J Johnson 10-8

M Macleod beat M Owen 10-5; D Martin beat M Parkin 10-1; D Martin beat M Macleod 10-7

J Meadowcroft beat B Bennett 10-3; G Cripsey beat Dennis Hughes 10-2; J Meadowcroft beat G Cripsey 10-6

J Donnelly beat D Sheehan 10-6; J Campbell beat M Watterson 10-6; J Campbell beat J Donnelly 10-2

L Dodd wo J Dunning; I Williamson beat D French 10-8; L Dodd beat I Williamson 10-9

M Hallett beat R Andrewartha 10-7; W King beat I Anderson 10-6; M Hallett beat W King 10-6

E Hughes beat J Fitzmaurice 10-7; E Sinclair beat C Roscoe 10-2; E Hughes beat E Sinclair 10-8

188.29.8.15 (talk) 00:47, 2 May 2013 (UTC) Ralph

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:1983 World Snooker Championship/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 12:54, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Am reviewing for the GAN October 2020 Backlog Drive. MWright96 (talk) 12:54, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lead

• "The highest was made by Thorburn in the second round where he compiled a maximum break of 147 points." - perhaps mention that Thorburn made the maximum against Terry Griffiths

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:31, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "The highest was made by" - highest break

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:31, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "he became the first player to make a maximum in a World Championship match." - this sentence should begin with a capital letter

• Has been amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:31, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "maximum in a World Championship match." - maximum break

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:31, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Overview

• "The World Snooker Championship is a professional tournament and the official world championship of the game of snooker." - how about The World Snooker Championship is a professional snooker tournament and the game's official world championship.

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:20, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• Wikilink world snooker rankings for non-Snooker readers

• Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:20, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Qualifying

• "A two-round qualification tournament was held across three venues, at the Snooker Centre in Sheffield, Romiley Forum, Stockport and Redwood Lodge, Bristol." - on what dates were the qualifiers held on?

•  Pending BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:31, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Started from 28 March (Guardian, 16 March 83, Sport in Brief, p.25). The latest any qualifying results were published in the Guardian was 12 April, but no definitive source yet found to say that qualifying ended on 11 April.

• "Mario Morra was 4–9 behind to Ian Black," - the word in bold is not needed

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:31, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• "and won the frame and match on the pink with just two balls remaining." - and the match

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:31, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• "securing a whitewash over Mike Darrington" - a 10–0 whitewash

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:31, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

First round

• "Steve Davis was the bookmaker's favourite to win the event," - bookmakers

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• "with Ray Reardon and defending champion Alex Higgins at 8/1." - only Reardon and Higgins' surnames will suffice since they have been mentioned in full earlier in the article

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• "and Higgin's only notable success had been in the 1983 Irish Professional Championship." - Higgins

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Higgins led Dean Reynolds, who had taken him to a deciding frame at the 1982 UK Championship," - which round?

• Added that it was the second round. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• " Eddie Charlton completed a 10–7 victory against Dodd after completing their first session 5–3 in front." - repetition of "completing"

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• "He won the last three frames to defeat Silvino Francisco 10–9." - three frames of his match to

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• "In their second session, Davis won three of the first four frames to win 10–4." - repetition of ""win/won"

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• "to gain a 10–8 victory." - secure

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Doug Mountjoy won 10–2 against Wilson, and Kirk Stevens saw off Fisher by the same margin." - defeated

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• " In an attacking match, Tony Meo defeated his childhood friend Jimmy White 10–8 having led 6–3 after the first session." - only Meo's surname will suffice

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• Wikilink seeds to Seed (sports)

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Second round

• The image caption: "Cliff Thorburn (pictured in 2007) made a maximum break, the first made at the event" - repetition of "event"

• Has been amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:29, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "From there, Thorne won only one further frame as Higgins won 13–8." - repetition of "won"

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:29, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "but Werbeniuk then won seven consecutive frames and won 13–10." - repetition of "won"

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:29, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Stevens compiled a break of 139 in the second frame against Perrie Mans," - it should just the surname of the player in bold that should be mentioned per MOS:SURNAME

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:29, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "In a session of slow play saw Charlton move from 9–7 against Spencer to take their match 13–11." - the word in bold looks out of place and the subsequent words can be changed

• Has been amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:29, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Knowles lead Reardon 9–7 and after Reardon had equalised at 11–11 and 12–12," - led

• Has been amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:29, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "He was only the second player (after Davis at the 1982 Classic), to make an official maximum." - the brackets and the comma in this sentence is not needed IMO

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:29, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "While he was completing the break, play stopped on the tournament's second table because his friend and fellow Canadian Bill Werbeniuk wanted to watch the break unfold." - repetition of "break"

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:29, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "and fellow Canadian Bill Werbeniuk wanted to watch" - just Werbeniuk's surname will suffice

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:29, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Quarter-finals

• Wikilink black ball to the relevant article

• Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:46, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Davis took a 5–3 lead over Charlton after their first session, during which Charlton compiled a break of 115 and finished the second session 11–5 ahead." - think this sentence can be reworded somewhat

Reworded. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:46, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• Wikilink black ball to the relevant article
• "In the third frame, 46 points ahead," - At 46 points ahead in the third frame,

• Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:46, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• Wikilink foul to the appropriate article

• Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:46, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "but lost the next after going in-off in playing a shot on the pink." - while

• Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:46, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "but was pegged back to 5–3 by the end of their first session." - try using alternative formal wording in place of the text in bold

• Reworded. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:46, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-finals

• "as the best-of-31 frame matches over scheduled four sessions." - scheduled over

Has been corrected. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:02, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "the venue was evacuated due to a death threat to Davis that had been telephoned to the venue," - repetition of "venue"

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:02, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "making a break of 103 in the opening frame," - which specific of the second session?

• Added "of the second session" BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:02, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Higgins replied with a break of 74 to win the following frame, after which Davis won the next five to win the match 16–5." - repetition of "won/win"

• Reworded. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:02, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Knowles was within a frame of winning at 15–13, but Thorburn won the next two to force a deciding frame." - repetition of "won"

• Reworded. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:02, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Thorburn went on to win the frame and the match." - the score can be added to the end of this sentence

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:02, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Final

• Wikilink rest to the relevant article

• Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:37, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Davis extended this to 9–2" - increased his advantage to

• Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:37, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Davis compiled break of 131 in the 22nd frame to leave him one frame from victory at 17–5. " - compiled a break of 131

  Has been amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:33, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "before Davis wrapped up victory at 18–6." - trying an alternative formal phrase other than the one highlighted in bold

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:33, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Snooker historian Clive Everton commented of Thorburn's performance in the final that the long matches he had played in reaching the final" - repetition of "final"

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:33, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Snooker historian Clive Everton commented of Thorburn's performance in the final that the long matches he had played" - commented that the long matches Thorburn had played

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:33, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Thorburn said of the match that" - Thorburn commented on the match

• Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:37, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• "The £30,000 prize money brought Davis's earnings from tournaments to more than £80,000 for the season, with his expected earnings for the following year being estimated at £750,000" - repetition of "earnings"

• Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:37, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Qualifying

• Please add some text informing the reader that the bolding of players' names is to indicate they are match winners

• Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:25, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Century breaks

• "There were 18 century breaks during the championship," - can be either made or compiled between "breaks" and "during"
• "The highest break of the event was maximum break of 147" - was a maximum
• Thorburn does not need to be wikilinked and just his surname will suffice

• All done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk)

References

• Reference 1 "Snooker championship" is missing the page number
• Reference 30 "The Top 10 sporting epics" is missing the publication date

• Both added. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:23, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Will put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address or query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 18:20, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

• Looks like Benny has already done most of these, bar for one point on the dates for qualifying. I'll see if I can find anything. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:08, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• There's a reliable source for qualifying starting on 28 March. I'm pretty sure qualifying ended on 11 April but haven't managed to get a definitive source for this from searches in newspapers.com, The Times archive, the British Newspaper Archive, and NewsBank. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:26, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

• Yeah, I think if it is anywhere, it'll be in a record book or a really obscure newspaper. If we can't nail down the exact dates, we could do what we did in 1982 and put "in April". Better to be inaccurate and right than precise and wrong/uncited. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:21, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

• We did cite to the rothmans snooker yearbook in 1985, did they produce one for 82-83? Or check Cueworld. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:28, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

• None of the books I've seen include dates for 1983 qualifying - not even Downer's Almanac. The Rothmans books only started from 1985 and they only cover the most recent season in much detail other than results. The Cue World source doesn't have dates. I haven't got the relevant issue of Snooker Scene, but they don't usually include detailed dates either, except in a sort of "dates for the diary" view - so if anyone has Snooker Scene issues from later 1982 or early 1983 it might possibly be in there. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:25, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

• Probably the best approach is to say "in March and April", to avoid issues. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:56, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

• @Lee Vilenski: Am satisfied with the changes made and will promote to GA class. MWright96 (talk) 19:44, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

which one is correct?

At the start of section "Summary", "Qualifying": ...In round one, Mario Morra was 4–9 behind...

But, at 1984 World Snooker Championship, at the end of the same section: ... Andrewartha, Foulds, Parrott, King, Marcel Gauvreau, Joe Johnson, Paul Mifsud, Mario Morra, and Eddie Sinclair made their World Championship debuts in qualifying.

Must be something wrong somewhere.--Jarodalien (talk) 11:49, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Neither is wrong, at this event, Morra lost in the opening round of qualifying, and the following year, he progressed to the finals, making his debut there. We don't classify the qualification stages as part of the main draw. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:04, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

First round (or opening round) doesn't count for qualifying?--Jarodalien (talk) 12:39, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

The first sentence, is talking about the opening round of qualifying. You have to win multiple matches to qualify for the main draw, Morra lost in the first qualifying round (last 128) in 1983. The following year, he won enough matches in qualifying to reach the main stage of the competition, where he lost in the first round of the main draw (the last 32). Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:43, 13 September 2021 (UTC)