Talk:1917 Kiev City Duma election

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 19:55, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propaganda for the Ukrainian Socialist Bloc for the 1917 Kiev City Duma election
Propaganda for the Ukrainian Socialist Bloc for the 1917 Kiev City Duma election

Created by Soman (talk). Self-nominated at 02:55, 28 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article meets DYK requirements, hook is fine, assuming good faith on the book source for the hook. --benlisquareTCE 04:49, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To T:DYK/P4 without image

full list of elected members[edit]

Mikhail Maslennikov [ru] was a Kadet elected, per ru.wiki, with reference to «Киевлянин» №178 от 27 июля 1917 г.. For me I find the scan bit too blurry to make out all the names easily. -- Soman (talk) 10:40, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Below an attempt to populate the listing of elected members, per the Киевлянин reference linked above. --Soman (talk) 11:06, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] is much clearer --Soman (talk) 11:43, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Number (in Киевлянин 27 Jul) Name List Appears in Киевская мысль (25 Jul)
1 Dreiling, V. A. (Menshevik) 1 Yes
2 Prilezhaev, I. A. (SR - " Прилежаев , И.А. , член ЦК п.с.-р. , ученый агроном , редактор « Дела Народа » , кандидат совета партии") 1 Yes
3 Rafes, M. G. (Bund) 1 Yes
4 Białogrodzki, J. A. (PPS-Lewica) 1 Yes
5 Kruchinsky, I. M. (Menshevik, per https://vtoraya-literatura.com/pdf/volin_mensheviki_na_ukraine_1921-1921_1990__ocr.pdf ) 1 Yes
6 Sukhovikh, K. A. [ru] 1 Yes
7 Ginzburg (Naumov), A. M. 1 Yes
8 Shpolyansky, G. M. 1 Yes
9 Dorotov, A. V. 1 Yes
10 Sinikovsky, N. K. 1 Yes
11 Levin, I. L. 1 Yes
12 Dushkan, M. K. 1 Yes
13 Smirnov, V. A. 1 Yes
14 Lvov, V. M. 1 Yes
15 Balabanov, M. S. [ru] 1 Yes
16 Moreinis, L. K. [ru] 1 Yes
17 Aleksev, I. N. 1 Yes
18 Frumin, I. O. [ru] 1 Yes
19 Zolotorev, A. I. 1 Yes
20 Davidzon, I. L. (Menshevik, per https://vtoraya-literatura.com/pdf/volin_mensheviki_na_ukraine_1921-1921_1990__ocr.pdf ) 1 Yes
21 Kozachek, A. G. 1 Yes
22 Kononenkov, K. S. [uk] 1 Yes
23 Sklovsky, I. L. 1 Yes
24 Loginov, G. K. 1 Yes
25 Ryabtsov, E.P. [ru] 1 Yes
26 Orel, V. E. 1 Yes
27 Voropaeva, A. N. 1 Yes
28 Treskin, F. M. 1 Yes
29 Nikolaev, M. N. 1 Yes
30 Braun, E. O. 1 Yes
31 Spitsyn, A. F. (Menshevik, per https://vtoraya-literatura.com/pdf/volin_mensheviki_na_ukraine_1921-1921_1990__ocr.pdf ) 1 Yes
32 Zarubin, A. N. 1 Yes
33 Dobkin, S. Y. 1 Yes
34 Pshenichnyi, M. P. 1 Yes
35 Nezlobin, P. I. 1 Yes
36 Teslenko-Prykhodko, G. P. [uk] 1 "G. P."
37 Lesnevsky, P. F. 1 Yes
38 Slutsky, L. M. 1 Yes
39 Schlesinger, Y. L. 1 Yes
40 Deshevoi, M. S. 1 Yes
41 Raevsky, V. G. 1 Yes
42 Lagunov, S. I. [uk] 1 Yes
43 Logachev, P. N. 1 Yes
44 Krokos, G. S. 1 Yes
45 Lestschinsky, Y. D. 2 Yes
46 Kornsgold, S. G. 2 "S. G. Korn..."
47 Lestschinsky, I. D. [pl] 2 Yes
48 Shulgin, V. V. 3 Yes
49 Savenko, A. I. 3 Yes
50 Kikh, A. A. [ru] 3 Yes
51 Bogaevsky, P. M. 3 Yes
52 Rekashev, I. G. [uk] 3 Yes
53 Mossakovsky, A. A. 3 Yes
54 Petrov, G. I. 3 Yes
55 Demchenko, G. V. [ru] 3 Yes
56 Podrizan, V. N. 3 Yes
57 Khmelnytsky, S. Y. 3 Yes
58 Iosefi, V. G. 3 Yes
59 Shcheglov, B. N. 3 Yes
60 Grushevsky, S. G. [ru] 3 Yes
61 Kolpinkov, N. P. 3 Yes
62 Butovsky, A. M. [uk] 3 Yes
63 Moskvichev, I. F. 3 Yes
64 Kushnerchuk, G. G. 3 "G. G. Kushkerchuk"?
65 Tieder, I. M. 3 No
66 Grigorovich-Barsky, D. N. [ru] 4 Yes
67 Vasylenko, N. P. 4 Yes
68 Kosinsky, V. A. 4 Yes
69 Butenko, P. E. [uk] 4 Yes
70 Cholgansky, L. E. [uk] 4 Yes
71 Krupnov, S. G. 4 Yes
72 Tsyvkin, V. G. 4 Yes
73 Ulinitsky, V. V. 4 "V. V. Ulyanitsky"?
74 Maslennikov, M. I. [ru] 4 Yes
75 Yaroshevich, A. I. [ru] 4 Yes
76 Pietkiewicz, M. 5 "M. M. Petkevich"
77 Szarzyński, D. S. 5 Yes
78 Drogoszewski, A. S. - Aureli Drogoszewski [pl]?? 5 Yes
79 Krzyżanowski, F. B. 5 Yes
80 Zarębski, M. G. 5 Yes
81 Smólski, I. K. 5 Yes
82 Syrkin, N. S. [ru] 8 "M. Sh. Syrkin"
83 Ginzburg, A. I. 8 Yes
84 Aleksandrov, M. I. 8 Yes
85 Surdutovich, M. S. 8 Yes
86 Lestschinsky, N. M. 8 Yes
87 Ivanov, A. I. 10 Yes
88 Bogdanov, M. S. 10 Yes
89 Galperin, R. V. 10 Yes
90 Maevskaya-Masalskaya, A. I. 10 Yes
91 Fialek, I. M. [uk] 10 Yes
92 Pyatakov, G. L. 10 Yes
93 Leontyev, M. L. 10 Yes
94 Vynnychenko, V. K. (USD) 12 Yes
95 Tertychny, S. N. (USD) 12 Yes
96 Koval, V. D. [uk] (UPSR) 12 Yes
97 Drahomanov, S. M. [uk] (USD) 12 Yes
98 Dovzhenko, V. D. (USD) 12 Yes
99 Kovaleva, A. L. (UPSR) 12 Yes
100 Antonovich, D. V. (USD) 12 Yes
101 Mikhail Tkachenko [ru] (USD) 12 Yes
102 Virko, I. F. (UPSR) 12 Yes
103 Tymoshenko, A. M. (USD) 12 Yes
104 Verbilenko, I. G. (USD) 12 Yes
105 Koliukh, D. V. [uk] (USD) 12 Yes
106 Maevsky, I. A. [uk] (UPSR) 12 Yes
107 Bilyashevsky, N. F. (UPSR) 12 Yes
108 Khomenko, P. S. (USD) 12 Yes
109 Kasyanenko, A. I. (USD) 12 Yes
110 Golubenko, A. E. (USD) 12 Yes
111 Bondarenko, M. L. (UPSR) 12 Yes
112 Miroshnichenko, V. K. (UPSR) 12 Yes
113 Ponyatenko, P. D. [uk] (USD) 12 Yes
114 Potsubeenko, A. F. (USD) 12 Yes
115 Chyakalenko, L. E. [uk] (USD) 12 Yes
116 Shleichenko, A. N. (UPSR) 12 Yes
117 Advienko, M. A. [ru] (USD) 12 Yes
118 Domosławski, K. S. [pl] 14 Yes
119 Yefremov, S. A. 15 Yes
120 Ilyin, N. I. 17 Yes

Robitnycha Hazeta results[edit]

Looking at Robitnycha Hazeta (Ukr S.-D. Workers Party organ), issue 94, 1917, p. 4, we find electoral result largely identical to that in 1917 god na Kiyevshchine (1928). One key difference is however that Robitnycha Hazeta gaves List 12 a total of 25 seats and no seat for List 17.

To complicate things further, whilst the UPSR organ Borotba, published a bit later, gives the List 12 bloc 24 seats, it allocates 10 seats to UPSR. Per Robitnycha Hazeta there would be 16 USDRP deputies and 9 UPSR deputies. I'll start marking USDRP/UPSR in list above per RH. -- Soman (talk) 18:34, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So the 25th List 12 deputy, that doesn't appear in the Kievlyanin ref would be the 9th UPSR deputy V. A. Ignatienko. --Soman (talk) 18:50, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This would have been Ігнатієнко Варфоломій Андріанович [uk], who according to uk.wiki was elected speaker deputy of the City Duma in the summer of 1917... --Soman (talk) 18:52, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
To complicate even more, Киевская мысль [ru], 25 July 1917 issue http://elib.shpl.ru/ru/nodes/66434-locale-nil-180-25-iyulya#mode/inspect/page/2/zoom/9 , has yet another listing of elected deputies to the City Duma. Moreover, it has voting result district by district, but seemingly with some errors. --Soman (talk) 11:05, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here [1] we find a listing of Polish deputies "Wiarą we własne siły mogły Pol . Komitet Wykonawczy natchnąć wybory do rady miejskiej Kijowa : tzw . „ Polska lista wyborcza " otrzymała 6 mandatów ( M. Pietkiewicz , D. Szarzyński , A. Drogoszewski , Krzyżanowski , M. Zarębski , Smólski ) . Tymczasem P.P.S. frakcja tylko 1 ( Kaz . Domosławski ) i P.P.S. lewica 1 ( Jan Białogrodzki )" --Soman (talk) 12:35, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And here we have the full candidate listing for List 1, all names for 1-44 checks out. I added Russian names in hidden brackets above. --Soman (talk) 18:31, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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