Talk:Logan Paul/Archive 1

Archive 1

Birth year

In a Logan Paul vlog, it reveals that Logan was born in 1994, but this says 1995. Which one is correct? Basteperk (talk) 09:59, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Untitled

The Thinning, Logan Paul, there's a lot of filmography that needs to be added... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexanderhovanec (talk • contribs) 19:54, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

He is also currently working on a recreated movie from the early 80's PapaSmurfey (talk) 13:44, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Logan Paul's relationship

It has not yet been confirmed that Logan Paul is in a relationship with Ayla Woodruff. This statement is in the personal life category. Kevin Flores (talk) 02:27, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

 Note: Adding template for user. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) 20:07, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Done SkyWarrior 01:39, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

uh no he's not dating ayla he's currently single ayla is dating a guy called makenzie if I'm not wrong. Logan's dated a girl name Jessica serfarty (or sth) more like sirfartsalot who cheated on Logan THAT BISH CHEATED ON LOGAN AAAAAAAH HORE okay I don't wanna say full words :) but yea he is currently single as a Pringle

Logang4lyfeaye (talk) 07:28, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 July 2017

Change Vine to Vine 2A02:8070:2783:DD00:69E9:561D:84D:1027 (talk) 19:52, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Done jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) 20:06, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Logang

Paul calls his subscribers the Logang. I'm just worried that you'll revert my edit. So can you do it for me, please? Basteperk (talk) 10:24, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 August 2017

can i please edit information about Logan Paul Kawhi leonard (talk) 09:52, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 10:05, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 September 2017

please change 10.1 million subscribers on his blog channel to 11.3 million subscribers on his blog channel Hughsc16isbae (talk) 20:45, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Done I've also updated the other subscriber and view counts especially from his other channel. Note that all stats have to be up-to-date. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 21:50, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Alexander Logan Paul

Paul mentioned in one of his videos that his real name is Alexander Logan Paul, better known as Logan Paul. Larsconks (talk) 19:25, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 September 2017

I'm Requesting a edit. His current occupation title is an American Actor Not American Youtuber. Thanks AdamLopez101 (talk) 23:51, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: Both are already listed. – Nihlus (talk) 01:48, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 October 2017

His songs were written in 2017 and he made another single called help me help you in may 2017 and later a remix around June 9-14 TALLGUY56 (talk) 12:01, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Nihlus 13:20, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2017

Subcribers 14.34 123.136.238.78 (talk) 19:16, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

 Not done. Honestly, we shouldn't even have those decimal points; updating this stuff more often than once every million new followers reads like WP:PROMO. Either way, you didn't provide a source for this change or an explanation of how it would help a casual reader's understanding of the subject. CityOfSilver 19:29, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Suicide Forest video

This is regarding these edits

@AlexanderHovanec: Hello. Wikipedia article should avoid WP:CSECTIONs. They introduce many problems, starting with the section header. They exist, and are unfortunately commons, but should be avoided whenever possible. This was a video he uploaded as part of his social media personality career. The video is treated as part of his "youtuber" activity by sources, most of which do not even discuss anything else about him. This should not be ghettoized into a csection, and should instead be integrated and explained as part of his career history. There are so, so many sources about this already, that it will become much clearer how to do this in time, but to avoid WP:RECENTISM, this should be handled slowly. Grayfell (talk) 00:24, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

I understand where you're coming from. But other articles include sections like "legal issues" or "health problems" -- all while many other articles feature whole sections about "critical reception". While unbiased, it still sheds a negative light on the overall career. What if the large chunk of text were just designated within a sub-section alternatively titled "Incident in Japan"? This way it's comprehended that this doesn't define his overall career, and was just an "incident" -- like how other articles contain sections devoted to "eras" or "phases". -- AlexanderHovanec (talk) 00:29, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

That could work. "Incident in Japan" seems too vague to me. This has a similar problem as "controversy". "Incident" could be anything, but it's not really informative by itself. If this needs its own section (which again, will time will tell) this would be better described in simple terms. "Japanese suicide video" maybe? There is no way to describe this incident that isn't going to be somewhat shocking, but that's unavoidable. Simple is usually more neutral, and his discovery and subsequent behavior are what's notable about this incident, so that's information we should attempt to indicate or summarize in the section header.

As for your examples, "health problems" would be appropriate for multiple health problems, or for complicated or protracted ones, otherwise "cancer diagnosis" or similar would be better. If it's only a single paragraph, it's typical to place this kind of thing under "personal life" for most biographies. The same applies here. If this turns out to be a single paragraph, it's probably going to be rolled into his 'social media' career section, because this is, by his own flawed admission, a defining moment of his career. If it's not, well, we can figure out what to call it when that happens. Grayfell (talk) 00:44, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Ah, agreed. I think it looks fine to me. If you think the title is too vague or inaccurate, than by all means change it, as I'm no admin. I just believe that the event should at least be categorized under some kind of "header", and I think a header governed by four equal signs will work. -- AlexanderHovanec (talk) 00:54, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

I got a message on my talk page suggesting this source be implemented into the article: https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/03/youtube-is-equally-to-blame-for-logan-pauls-video/amp/

I took a look at it and it seems like a solid source that could definitely be used in the article. I don't really have much of an interest in editing this article though, so I'll just leave the source here as I figure it would be useful. Best wishes, Soulbust (talk) 15:57, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Follow-up

I made an edit recommending that the section (yanno... about the suicide) be kept broad as the incident possessed its own article. I further recommended that all details be placed on the designated page instead. I now realize this was an error, as the page (not sure who created it, never looked) is going to be deleted for its lack of notability. Therefore, details really should be placed in the Logan Paul "suicide section".

Additionally, I feel like the section has received and will continue to receive biased and unsourced claims/statements. I.e. the term "jokes", as no one technically has the right to define the subject's actions as a joke, or not-a-joke. If YouTube were to make a statement, referring to Paul's actions as "mockery" – or if Paul himself claimed "I was joking" – than of course the term "joke" 'd be acceptable. It's also a necessity that editors refrain from negative adjectives like 'incentive" or "disrespectful". Instead, I changed the statement to read something along the lines of "critics/viewers feel it is insensitive/disrespectful".

I understand the section and "incident" are negative, and ethically/morally unacceptable to many people, but some readers may have differing view points, which is why encyclopedias must remain as neutral as possible. Thanks a lot Wikipedians and ("LoGang" – is that the right term?). -- AlexanderHovanec (talk) 01:41, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

This argument is asinine. YouTube has the right to call it mockery, but numerous other reliable sources don't? You removed a link by the BBC where they referred to it as "joking". It's easy to find numerous other sources that say he was joking, including The Guardian, The Daily Beast, NPR, etc. Bueller 007 (talk) 16:20, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Well if that's the way you feel, then add to the article that other news sources are DEEMING it a joke. Don't just out and say that it IS a joke. Different people classify what happened as different things. Paul said himself that he wasn't joking in his apology video, so for other outlets to dub it a joke and side with the news outlets would violate WP:NPOV. Feel free to add quotes of news articles containing the word joke if you like that term so much, but do not define his actions as a joke in the article as that would be biased. -- AlexanderHovanec (talk) 16:24, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Sub-sections

@AlexanderHovanec: I strongly disagree with this revert you made. I don't think there should be sub-sections; if anything, the content should be moved to somewhere else in the main section, namely after the sentence beginning with "the video was criticized by many online". Would that be a nice workaround?

As for the "relevant details", I don't think the name of the user who created the main petition is really relevant; we can easily do without it and simply mention other petitions have been made, as what I did in my initial edit. SkyWarrior 05:39, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@AlexanderHovanec: how's this for a compromise? I made the changes I proposed above regarding the change.org petition, but kept the section on the lawsuit after further thinking. SkyWarrior 05:49, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

I definitely see where you're coming from. Unfortunately, I didn't read this until after making some revisions to the article, so I fear I completely did what you've told me not to do. Feel free to re-add the compromise and revert any of my recent edits. While I still feel "iffy" about your preference, I don't think it's all that important in the end. You make a good suggestion. -- AlexanderHovanec (talk) 21:16, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Don't revert all my edits though, as some had nothing to do with our discussion. 😂 Additionally, the reason I keep adding more and more information to these paragraphs is because I'm transferring info after info from the Logan Paul suicide video controversy TO the Logan Paul article, as many are voting to delete the latter and merge the two. Therefore, I just don't want details on one page to be unincluded on another page. -- AlexanderHovanec (talk) 21:24, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

I think the only other thing I reverted was your move of the image, which in my opinion didn't really help much and wasn't all too needed. SkyWarrior 21:26, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Furthermore, we don't need to merge everything that's in the to-be-redirected/deleted article; we can easily leave some things out that are irrelevant to the whole picture, such as the name of the person who created the largest petition. SkyWarrior 21:29, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Colorblindness mentioned in "Health" section, as well as alleged fakery?

Hey: I saw some comments on Paul's colorblindness, and about including that in the article - thought this deserved its own section as it seemed swallowed up by the suicide video controversy.

I think LP's colorblindness and the (minor) controversy over him allegedly faking (or, in his words, "embellish" and "exaggerate" the condition) it should be included in "health" section of this article. Also, would this be considered a reliable source to include for this? Thanks. J.M.Ike (talk) 04:42, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism

Namely the13thdoctor. -- AlexanderHovanec (talk) 19:51, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

M'kay, he's made the same consistent edit (war) four times in a row, it's pretty much vandalism at this point. He insists that Logan Paul is done with his career forever. "2018" – the end of it all. He's set on that notion despite everyone's reassuring. -- AlexanderHovanec (talk) 23:28, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 January 2018

It's Dwarf NOT Dward 104.129.192.188 (talk) 05:50, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Done Stickee (talk) 06:11, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

What happened to "WP:BOLD"? It was an obvious error – you've gotta take charge and change it yourself. Justify yourself using the edit summary. If you're going to add something new to the article, add a source/citation/reference. Otherwise, this isn't a Talk Page matter! -- AlexanderHovanec (talk) 23:29, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2018

Logan Paul Has Created many songs he is now creating a song with his stepbrother Jas Lang which is believed to be about suicide prevention after pauls new years vlog last year Jas Lang, Logan Paul's stepbrother said that all money made from this song will go to suicide prevention. 112.141.44.198 (talk)

This... is news to me. Wow. If we KNOW the information is credible, then I say go ahead and add the information to the article. In the suicide section, of course. In a new paragraph of its own. But we need extremely valid sources. Make sure that no doubt can be derived from the citations you tack on. They must be credible, from news sources or Paul up and saying it himself. If it's only a rumor, then we'll have to wait for the time being. -- AlexanderHovanec (talk) 03:03, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Hiàn (talk) 03:05, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Regarding the 'Career' section

1.) The paragraph starting "TheOfficialLoganPaul" - includes 'while his first channel has a following of 4.36 million...' -I'm confused as to what his 'first channel' is. Is 'TheOfficialLoganPaul' the channel to which you refer?

2.) In the subsection '2015-2016: YouTube Red...' you include information from 2017. Then in '2017-present' you talk about his legal issues, etc. The 'Career' section should include the '2017-present' subsection, but this subsection ought to list/detail/talk about his career from 2017 onward. From what I gather from info elsewhere on the wiki page, in 2017 Paul created some sort of mini-series called 'Tokyo Adventures'. He also released multiple singles and directed a bunch of music videos. He also continued his vlog. Did he continue his 'first channel'? This should all be included in '2017-present.' THEN, after you are done bringing us up to date regarding career, you should create an entirely new section for his legal issues, controversies, etc. Not only is this in keeping with wikipedia's usual format, it's less confusing. I knew nothing about Paul prior to coming to wikipedia and after reading 'Initially intended to be part three of his "Tokyo Adventures", the group had planned to camp in the woods' I was thinking "what is 'Tokyo Adventures'? Who is 'they'?" Niccast (talk) 22:08, 14 January 2018 (UTC)niccast

can we please put him as active from 2013-2018 as he is not working atm

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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please — Preceding unsigned comment added by The13thdoctor (talk • contribs) 00:28, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

It's all of January 14 Is there some reason to think that he has quit the business for good? Multiple editors have undone your change. Either convince us or WP:DROPTHESTICK Meters (talk) 00:41, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

It COULD be true but you've gotta source your edits. No one has EVER said he "quit" or that any of his projects were "cancelled". Paul stated himself that he was on hiatus, meaning break or period of rest. He said he "needs time to think" and "reflect". Additionally, his shows are on hold, which means "not cancelled but paused in wake of controversy". Paul still makes thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of dollars a day and has only been gaining subscribes -- very steadily. If I were him, I think it'd be a horrible idea to "end it all". Even if people hate'm, he'll still be successful and benefit from the things he's done for the rest of his life. In other words, I personally doubt he won't remain inactive. -- AlexanderHovanec (talk) 03:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2018

I saw something that wasn't right. I want to change it. Boaz walma (talk) 08:09, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

 Not done Changes must be given in the form of "please change X to Y", with a reliable source if needed. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 08:28, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-Protected Edit Request - 9th February, 2018

The addition of the controversy over Logan uploading a video of him tazing the corpses of dead rats. PETA and YouTube themselves acted over this. Which lead to his account having advertisements being disabled for an unknown amount of time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brettaxf (talk • contribs)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. qwerty6811 :-) (talk) 17:22, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2018

Logan paul is a meme BCJProski (talk) 17:28, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --♥Yexstorm2001♥ (talk) 18:42, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

director??

how is he a director? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:216:7400:BC48:8128:9688:9295 (talk) 13:27, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2018

Logan Paul has been best friends with Lakshya Vegiraju for a long time and the two frequently hang out off camera. 74.88.132.227 (talk) 22:50, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:56, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2018

Logan Paul appeared in the music video for "It Ain't Me", by Kygo and Selena Gomez in April 2017. The video has over 100 million views. I'm not sure how to add this to Logan Paul's page. Thank you for your help. 129.97.125.5 (talk) 04:10, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Please also not that a link to the video itself is not sufficient, a source must specifically mention his appearance. Grayfell (talk) 07:44, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2018

Logan paul filmed a dead body Gogotet (talk) 12:44, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Haven't we heard it before? Read the article and you'll see what you want added is already in there.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 07Alpha55 (talk) 13:17, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Logan`s channel genre

Logan`s channel is not a comedy channel. It is a vlogging channel. Whoever keeps undoing my changes needs to stop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean P Cassidy (talk • contribs) 19:55, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2018

2A02:C7F:5622:2D00:3D9F:3E09:3B2:22C8 (talk) 17:12, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Logan paul is a born vine star from ohio

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. NiciVampireHeart 17:37, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2018

164.83.255.204 (talk) 13:17, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done Blank edit requests are not accepted. Please tell the specific change you want to make in a "change X to Y" format. 331dot (talk) 13:33, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of "Criticism" section

I have seen that said section includes non-notable events with vague language (it is only 2 lines long), and so I would like to propose a deletion of that section as a whole. LordVaal IV (talk) 11:10, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 August 2018

Please add to Suicide Forest:

Because of Paul's suicide forest incident, pop singer Matt DeAngelo released her third single from her album, "No Parking". Her single, "Taint Funny". This song is about Paul's mistakes in Japan. Mattdeangelo (talk) 17:44, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:59, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 August 2018

I would like to edit Logan Paul because I think there is stuff missing on this wikipedia page ESKEETTIT (talk) 03:31, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Meters (talk) 05:05, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 August 2018

I want to change the picture and add more to his personal life ESKEETTIT (talk) 06:12, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

In terms of changing the text, you will need to propose which text you want to remove (if any) and what text you want to add, in the format of "Change X to Y". 331dot (talk) 08:45, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Danski454 (talk) 09:42, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Logan Paul recently had a fight recently with famous british youtube KSI. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.205.96.146 (talk) 15:10, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

The Thinning: New World Order - released

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOeHsQ7q3nw — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joncepet (talk • contribs) 21:24, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Information on other activities in Japan, including suicide controversy in lead

Regarding these reverts of my edits, I have two questions:

1. Should mention of Paul's suicide video be mentioned in the lead? It seems a very siginificant event as it seems to be one of the first times he was covered in depth by mainstream media outside of the YouTuber infighting. New York magazine described the video as "a decision that turned him from a person who people who know about YouTubers love to hate into a guy that people who know nothing about YouTube also love to hate" [Page Not Found] in an unrelated story;
2. Should mention of Paul's other videos in Japan be mentioned in the suicide controversy section? This Daily Beast article seems significant to mention with relation to the reaction of Japanese law enforcement to alleged crimes he committed and seems reliably sourced.

thank you – Bangalamania (talk) 03:07, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for starting a discussion. Of the three sources used in the recent expansion, the Vox ref is by far the best. It would be a nice addition to use to expand the lede, but I'm not sure the suicide video deserves any mention in the members.

As far as mentioning the compilation video [1], the Daily Dot ref seems like little more than clickbait, while the Daily Beast is better, it seems to be just milking the suicide video controversy with an interview of Taihei Ogawa, a Japanese author and former policeman. Maybe this reference suggests a brief mention of the topic is due, but the level of detail and choice of quotes seems undue and unencyclopedic.

I find the use of the Ogawa interview to be gimmicky, and Ogawa's viewpoints on possible crimes unreliable for use in a BLP and undue to mention as his viewpoint. --Ronz (talk) 03:23, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I don't understand why the views of Ogwa and the unnamed current policeman are unreliable? Japanese law enforcement officers would seem to be RS for talking about Japanese law and possible prosecutions in the future. – Bangalamania (talk) 03:30, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

It's a gimmick. He's a former policeman. It's his personal opinion. It's speculation. It sensationalizes the story. Once again, look at the Vox reference in contrast. --Ronz (talk) 05:21, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Lead Section should mention his YouTube channel

The lead section does not mention his YouTube channels Logan Paul Vlogs and The Official Logan Paul, which he is most famous for. Turbo Ink (talk) 20:01, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

I can agree with that, it's his main thing.★Trekker (talk) 20:01, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

What about his occupation/profession as a singer though he did rap once on The Fall of Jake Paul.

Night,

67.81.163.178 (talk) 02:06, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Recent news

So apparently Logan Paul announced that he would "go gay for a month". Should this be added to the article?

RayDeeUx (talk) 02:20, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

I agree with you, and I think that it should be mentioned, despite it not being the most significant controversy. Although it did blow up on Twitter, making it sort of significant. --Jsraynault (talk) 18:55, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

documentary

logan paul made a documentary on flat earth — Preceding unsigned comment added by SnoopWoot (talk • contribs) 14:53, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

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Monetization of apology video and feedback on Suicide: Be Here Tomorrow

I suggest that it should be mentioned that the apology video was monetized and Paul was criticized for that, although it may not have been intentional. The video was later demonetized. Also in the bitabout the feedback on the Be Here Tomorrow video it should say that it received mostly positive feedback, some still viewed it as a PR stunt, for his reputation, and some didn't feel like forgiving him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.16.43.70 (talk) 21:01, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Also, Logan Paul did not actually donate $1 million he only promised to do so. So the text for Reference 37 is inaccurate. 2 years later he has only actually donated 1/3rd of $1 million and is now promising he will donate the rest over 10 another years. All despite making many millions of $ off the KSI fights. See for reference: https://themighty.com/2019/12/logan-paul-suicide-prevention-donations/

98.219.15.104 (talk) 17:41, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Valley Girl remake

Valley Girl is being rescheduled for 2020. Can someone add that in and also this source: https://www.wildaboutmovies.com/2020_movies/valley-girl/ 98.235.131.222 (talk) 16:55, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

• @98.235.131.222: Thanks for your help! This link doesn't seem too reliable... Are there any news stories about its being rescheduled? —Shrinkydinks (talk) 10:02, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 March 2020

lemme edit this Emoneyk (talk) 02:57, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

You can edit it when you account is 4 days old and you have at least 10 edits (usually). See WP:AUTOCONFIRM RudolfRed (talk) 03:23, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2020

remove deji olatunji as brother of logan paul thank you. SOME DUUDE (talk) 17:55, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

@SOME DUUDE:  Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. GoingBatty (talk) 18:09, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

@SOME DUUDE: where does it say Deji is his brother? – ².O.^Boxing 18:29, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2020

logan Paul did not star in Bizaadvark, that was his stupid brother, Jake Paul 2A00:23C5:9E86:5700:98B3:C7AB:1603:6FE (talk) 10:27, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jack Frost (talk) 10:50, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Baywatch

I believe it's worth noting that he makes an appearance in the movie Baywatch Jas0n Scoot (talk) 00:44, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Ancestry

https://ethnicelebs.com/logan-paul

You need to update it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:214C:84AC:E600:545C:7BBE:3255:6B15 (talk) 12:48, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 February 2021

In the Personal Life section, when discussing his decision to move to Puerto Rico, it states February 2020. This should read February 2021. Jcharrison92 (talk) 13:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Volteer1 (talk) 14:05, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2021

Professional Boxer 209.50.131.124 (talk) 01:45, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

 Already done It already says on the page he is a professional boxer. Ididntknowausername (talk) 02:29, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2021

Logan Paul is 6’1” according to many sources and also general rounding without shoes and hair of course maybe even 6 feet and three quarters. 2A02:C7F:C24D:5A00:5982:EC1F:A902:D179 (talk) 03:07, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kpgjhpjm 03:28, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2021

Addition to filmography: 2017 Where's the Money, played Eddie 2001:5B0:4FC7:FC68:6100:906B:56CD:9EDC (talk) 06:31, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:28, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2021

Addition to filmography: Where's the Money. Paul played Eddie. Please check IMDB https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5716848/ 2001:5B0:4FC7:FC68:405A:F6C8:5AAE:5572 (talk) 06:01, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: I cannot find the part you are requesting changes for under filmography. ― Qwerfjkl  (please use {{reply to|Qwerfjkl}} on reply) 06:39, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2021

183.83.146.134 (talk) 05:28, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

He is Professional Boxer

 Already done It already mentioned in the first line of lead paragraph Run n Fly (talk) 06:09, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2021

@Qwerfjkl: regarding May 15 2021 request. I am requesting an ADD to filmography. Missing film 2017 film Where's the Money. He played Eddie. Refer to imdb and wiki page for the movie linked below.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5716848/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where%27s_the_Money 2001:5B0:4FC7:FC68:2D71:EEF5:4AED:90C4 (talk) 04:33, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. See WP:IMDB and WP:CIRCULAR. Melmann 08:33, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

@2001:5B0:4FC7:FC68:2D71:EEF5:4AED:90C4: Sorry for misreading your rquest! ― Qwerfjkl | 𝕋𝔸𝕃𝕂  (please use {{reply to|Qwerfjkl}} on reply) 14:10, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2021

Under "2018–present: Boxing, podcast and further controversies," in the second-to-last paragraph, change the word "posting" to "posted." 69.2.163.237 (talk) 05:27, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Ferien (talk) 17:08, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Request edit on 7 June 2021

• What I think should be changed:
• Why it should be changed:
• References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

Boxing record in the box to the right should be 0-1 not 2. It is incorrect because he only did 1 professional match as described in the article.

Mbcohen14 (talk) 05:47, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

 Already done Saw this request and it's currently reflecting 1 loss in the article itself. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 05:14, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Request edit on 7 June 2021

• What I think should be changed: The claim that the Paul-Mayweather fight result was "Draw" is inaccurate

• Why it should be changed: The source cited does not state this result, in fact it is from months before the fight and does not discuss any details or results from the event. Additionally, all publicly available sources currently state that a condition of the match was that there would be no official result if neither fighter was knocked out. Therefore it is not possible for the match result to be "Draw." Draw means two very specific things in boxing, either a fighter can't continue due to accident or fouls, or the match went to scorecards and the score was tied. Neither of these things happened. Further, compubox stats are available and indicate a dominating performance by Mayweather, landing nearly twice as many hits on nearly quadruple the accuracy percentage. The only accurate statement of the results of this match is that there is no official result and Mayweather was statistically dominant.

• References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://www.boxingscene.com/floyd-mayweather-vs-logan-paul-compubox-punch-stats--158204

72.22.211.187 (talk) 07:23, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

 'Already done', I think. The article does not call it a "draw", but says that there's no winner that was announced (there were no judges), which is supported by WP:RS. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 05:18, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Somebody fix the introduction

It's subscribers not followers NULL0404 (talk) 07:55, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Logan drew with Floyd mayweather on june 6 th adding to his professional career

80.233.36.221 (talk) 22:31, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:37, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 November 2021

The claims made by the attending 'neuroscientist' - Dr. Amen - are intellectually and morally fraudulent. Not only is the neuroimaging method employed by Dr. Amen (SPECT) unreliable when it comes to neuroanatomy, it cannot, prima facie, be used to to make forward or reverse inferences (e.g., relating psychological processes to neural regions) to 'so called' metabolic activity.

Logan Paul saw Dr. Amen AFTER filming the consequences of a suicide. Dr. Amen then showed Paul his brain and pointed and said "you have problems with empathy, planning, learning, remembering, and reward."

Dr. Amen is peddling pseudoscience and using such quackery to misinfgorm the general public that the callous acts of Youtube starts are driven by brain damage. DallasCat99 (talk) 08:08, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Don't believe our article mentions Amen at all, just notes some claims Paul made about his health. Cannolis (talk) 08:21, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Hello. Reference number 73 cites the youtube video where Dr. Amen 'investigates' Logan Paul. The section I am attempting to revise should clarify that Logan Paul is NOT suffering from empathic deficits, but is instead seeking pseudosceintifically driven grief after intentionally deceiving others. Dr. Amen actually tells him not to box, but he boxes anyways. Both are deceiving the general public. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DallasCat99 (talk • contribs) 10:18, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

@DallasCat99 is apparently asking to append or modify the Logan_Paul#Health paragraph reference to alleged brain damage, it should indicate the suspect claim/gimmick is basically self reported and based upon the dianosis of a quack celebrity doctor Dr. Amen, as evidenced in the doctor's wikipedia article. And in the Daily Dot article:

The doctor—who appears to be Dr. Daniel Amen, a celebrity brain disorder specialist whose methods have been scrutinized by the American Psychiatric Association

— Daily Dot, ref(73) in article a/o Nov 8

WurmWoode^T 17:27, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 December 2021

The section "Health" contains an WP:EASTEREGG link, specifically "eccentric celebrity doctor" linking to "Daniel Amen". I think this sentence should be changed to something like Paul claims that Daniel Amen, the doctor who diagnosed him, says it affects his ability to have empathy and a human connection with others (someone else might be able to come up with better wording). 86.23.109.101 (talk) 18:03, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

 Done. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 02:09, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Change linked article for Amanda Cerny

Amanda Cerny's name currently leads to a list of Playboy Playmates of the Month instead of her personal wikipedia article. 2607:FEA8:E923:6E00:ACC5:4E86:8D25:50C3 (talk) 03:41, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

He had another amateur match against KSI on August 25th, 2018 in Manchester Arena, London, England which ended in a 6 round MD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vivanprab (talk • contribs) 23:50, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Amateur Boxing Record

Logan's draw against KSI should be included on his page. Boxingfan27 (talk) 00:04, 26 February 2022 (UTC) Boxingfan27

WWE

Logan Paul is a professional wrestler officially as he has signed with the WWE very disappointing that there is an even mention in the first paragraph as it is one of his alkylates, Finding with the WWE isn’t a joke and this article should be updated as he is a WWE superstar currently performing on Monday night raw 2601:145:401:45B0:8462:3018:BB2B:B753 (talk) 21:30, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Logan Paul

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Logan Paul's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "WWEProfile":

• From Ronda Rousey: "Ronda Rousey - WWE Profile". WWE. Retrieved December 8, 2018.
• From Scott Stanford: "Scott Stanford Bio". WWE. Retrieved 2011-04-16.
• From Raquel González (wrestler): "Raquel González". WWE.
• From Jerry Lawler: "Jerry Lawler". WWE. Retrieved February 23, 2019.
• From John Cone: "John Cone Profile". WWE. Archived from the original on January 4, 2012. Retrieved July 19, 2014.
• From Lash Legend: "Lash Legend". WWE. Retrieved January 26, 2022.
• From Montel Vontavious Porter: "MVP's WWE Profile". WWE. Retrieved November 27, 2016.
• From The Undertaker: "Undertaker bio". WWE. Retrieved November 27, 2016.
• From Triple H: "Triple H Bio". World Wrestling Entertainment. Archived from the original on November 24, 2009. Retrieved April 14, 2009.
• From Shawn Michaels: "Shawn Michaels' WWE Hall of Fame Profile". World Wrestling Entertainment. Retrieved March 31, 2011.
• From Matt Bloom: Shields, Brian; Sullivan, Kevin (2009). WWE Encyclopedia. DK. p. 10. ISBN 978-0-7566-4190-0.
• From Saurav Gurjar: "Sanga". WWE. Retrieved 29 March 2022.
• From Randy Orton: "Randy Orton bio". WWE. Retrieved April 26, 2011.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 01:50, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Don't apologize Anomie you're not simple! You did a great job. Pabsoluterince (talk) 01:59, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

A suicide VICTIM???

Come on now. How can you possibly call someone that kills themselves a victim ?

How about thinking for yourself and making a point that actually makes sense instead of just copying and pasting? 75.138.186.215 (talk) 22:16, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

That is common terminology with reference to suicide, that the subject is a victim of the concept of suicide. 331dot (talk) 22:36, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Depression is a serious mental illness. Suicide is often the life-ending result of depression. People who suffer from depression and kill themselves are, in fact, victims of the mood disorder. Snickerdoooodle (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:14, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

CryptoZoo

It should be mentioned in the article to be honest. Ladsgroup^overleg 03:11, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

At this point he should be labelled as a known scammer, the story is out and should definitely be mentioned. 2001:8A0:6E09:6600:F5AA:FA79:E6B6:D4C9 (talk) 14:10, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

We are kind of limited by the type of sources we can use. If there's any expansion on this story, it should be sourced from non crypto sites. (See Wikipedia:Notability (cryptocurrencies)). – robertsky (talk) 14:56, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

The only real soruce at this moment is CoffeeZilla and everything else is referencing his independant findings, see for examlpe this blurb from MSN: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/logan-paul-responds-to-cryptozoo-scamming-accusations-threatens-to-sue-youtuber-coffeezilla/ar-AA15YUe3 Rovanion (talk) 06:17, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Cryptozoo?

Where is the section on his Cryptozoo controversy? 2600:1007:A007:918F:59A:7DA3:F1FB:5BEA (talk) 03:13, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Under Logan_Paul#2018–present:_Boxing,_podcast,_and_further_controversies – robertsky (talk) 03:15, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Professional Boxer Designation

How can you say he's not (or at least was not at some point) a professional boxer when he's boxed professionally? My tightness (talk) 21:17, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

MOS:ROLEBIO. We don't call Freddie Flintoff a professional boxer or Idris Elba a kickboxer, so we're definitely not calling Logan Paul a boxer. Soz. – ².O.^Boxing 06:43, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 December 2022

Jomamatin IIII (talk) 17:23, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Logan Paul is also known for supporting a crypto currency called boing and nfts.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 17:32, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

https://time.com/6252093/logan-paul-cryptozoo-liquid-marketplace/ 2603:8081:1140:7533:CF21:9C7D:7E17:D933 (talk) 06:12, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

I believe his crypto ventures should get a whole section,. 2603:8081:1140:7533:CF21:9C7D:7E17:D933 (talk) 06:12, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2023

Logan Paul and the CryptoZoo Controversy

Logan Paul became entangled in a significant controversy involving the non-fungible token (NFT) game CryptoZoo​ (1)​. Paul was subject to a class-action lawsuit following an investigation by YouTuber Stephen “Coffeezilla” Findeisen, who specializes in unveiling fraudulent practices within the cryptocurrency sector. Findeisen's investigation revealed that CryptoZoo, promoted as a source of passive income for its investors, was in fact a financial trap. The game's in-game currency was sold by Paul's team before others had the opportunity, resulting in substantial losses for many participants. A small group, including some individuals involved in the game's development, allegedly made significant profits​1​.

The lawsuit was initiated by a Texas police officer who invested approximately $3,000 into CryptoZoo with the expectation of considerable returns. The plaintiff is seeking damages exceeding $75,000 on several legal grounds, including conspiracy to commit fraud, fraudulent misrepresentation, negligence, and unjust enrichment. The lawsuit implicates everyone involved in the game's creation, including Paul and the former lead developer, Eddie Ibanez​1​.

In a video response to the allegations, Paul admitted to hiring individuals who subsequently engaged in fraudulent activities within the CryptoZoo project. He accepted responsibility for the lack of oversight during the hiring process, revealing that the lead developer Eddie Ibanez and another individual known as "Jake the Crypto King" had defrauded the company and its investors. It was revealed that Jake had allegedly stolen $6 million, while Ibanez was accused of taking over $1.7 million. Both have since been removed from the project​ (2).

Despite Paul's attempts to address the controversy, the incident has raised questions about his professional judgment. Paul is currently attempting to dissociate himself from the project as swiftly as possible​2​. His formal response to the lawsuit is pending, as he has not officially replied to it since it was filed​1​.

185.176.244.93 (talk) 16:43, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

References

 Not done. This controversy is already in the article (see Logan Paul#2018–present: Boxing, podcast, and further controversies, third paragraph), and I believe what we currently have in the article is sufficient. SkyWarrior 16:56, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

DinkDoink Scam and CryptoZoo NFT Update

An elaborate section on Paul's first NFT scam (controversy) is missing, as well as an update with CryptoZoo from the past 6 months. 2600:6C5E:263F:92EB:19A6:9CD7:5A0C:AA9B (talk) 15:36, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2023

2600:4040:9BB2:1000:69CE:F586:15C8:F812 (talk) 23:47, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Logan Paul has had a impressive Wrestling career lately I would really he interested in adding some things it’s it’s not good than it shouldn’t be there but I would like to try once

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Liu1126 (talk) 00:01, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Owen Brown

Owen Jacob Brown is from Bellefonte,PA and he plays Baseball currently for Baseball U Central PA. He goes to Bellefonte Middle School and he has a boxing background from ages 9-12. Hes just an average kid with a big dream in life. His favorite Baseball team is the New York Yankees. His favorite NFL team is the Pittsburgh Steelers. 71.50.195.50 (talk) 04:06, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Ancestry

Paul claims numerous countries of origin but none of it is backed by DNA. It should be removed (along with the YouTube source), and if he wants the information in the article, he can take a cheek swab and contact the media. Until then, thumbs down, needs to go. Twillisjr (talk) 21:24, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2023

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2409:4042:E1E:1FDC:0:0:20CA:730A (talk) 09:18, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

• We cannot consider a blank request. 331dot (talk) 09:27, 14 November 2023 (UTC)