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Scientelensia

Scientelensia is given a logged, only warning for disruption in the PIA topic area. Any further comments like the ones at issue here, or other PIA disruption, may lead to a topic ban, block, or other sanction without further warning. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|she) 19:35, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

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Request concerning Scientelensia

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Drsmoo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 17:45, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Scientelensia (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log

Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel_articles_4#ARBPIA_General_Sanctions

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

Scientelensia has been accusing multiple users of bias/prejudice, which is uncivil and is very much against WP:AGF.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1180168962 - “You may perhaps have a disconcerting bias in this regard.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1180150707 - “Even if you do not like Palestinians, you must see that this scale of death, whoever caused it, is a tragedy. The image of the man shows that not all Israelis oppose Palestine. And also, what is wrong with being “ultra-Orthodox”? You sound like you may hold a prejudice in this regard; if so, please say why, if not, I issue my apologies.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1180150468 - “You seem to have an anti-Palestinian bias.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1180149986- “You seem to have a heavy bias.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1180071513 - “I find your actions deeply troubling and also simply wrong.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1180067500 -“Also, your opinion seems to be highly biased.”

I advised them to strike their comments, but Scientelensia ignored me and continued calling users biased.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1180229378 - “I never objectively said that they had a bias, only that they ‘seemed’ biased, ‘perhaps’ had a bias or ‘may’ have held a bias. Thus, I am not stating 100% that these people are biased, because how would I know?”

And then resumed calling users biased

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1180231991 -“People only removes the ones here because of their seemingly biased views.”

Edit: Re Iskandar323, I’m confused by your comment. You said I didn’t speak with Scientelensia, yet my conversation with them, where I advised them to strike their comments, as well as their response, is included in this filing. Not only that, you linked to it in your post where you tagged Nableezy.

Edit:Iskandar323, I recommend reading through that thread you’re linking to, as well as the admin warning of a boomerang.

Edit: Nableezy, can you explain why you’re linking to an outdated diff that was very quickly struck/clarified within about 10 minutes? Doing so is very misleading.Drsmoo (talk) 15:41, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Scientelensia#c-Drsmoo-20231015173000-Notice_of_Arbitration_Enforcement_noticeboard_discussion

Discussion concerning Scientelensia

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Statement by Scientelensia

You can see my innocence from the excerpts; I have tried to contribute positively but this user has brought me into a needless situation. I would in fact call into question the user (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Drsmoo_and_WP:BATTLEGROUND_behaviour) who reported me and their actions. Also, if you actually view the contents of the diffs, you can see that I am actually right although I know now I should not have said so. The stuff the opposing people on there were saying was much worse: I have been taken out of context (!).

Context will prove that I have only been trying to do good. See the talk page on the ‘genocide against Palestinians’ to see this. People are always going to argue on Wikipedia, but by impassioned discussion the best result can be produced.

I believe everyone has a bias, and if I can discern people’s I will say so. Once people overcome their prejudices editing is easier. I obviously have bias too as everyone does, so if they tell me it is only for my benefit, regardless of the way in which it is said.

I suspect that Drsmoo’s annoyance with me is the product of our different stances on how to run the page. Drsmoo has perhaps been engaging in off-putting and hypocritical editing for some time (e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_assistance/archive76), though this may be a significant stretch. Glances at the talk page and SJ’s talk page show that I have been acting in a good and productive manner. I take Seraphimblade’s comments and will learn from them.

On Kathy Hochul, user Muboshgu says I have a “pro-Palestinian bias”. Firstly, by the rules which have just been explained to me, one should not say these things. Secondly, I used a reliable source and this is what it said. Just because an affair in one side, does not always mean it is biased. In the source, there is nothing to say that Hochul said bad things about Israeli Americans: just because the sentence was not in favour of Israelis, does not mean that there was an unfair bias against them. That the content was re-added suggests that it was useful and relevant and unbiased and that a consensus was reached on this, and thus that the revert was unnecessary and even plain wrong.

I strongly reject the unfair characterisation that I am biased. Since I first saw the page on the alleged genocide, I have tried hard to maintain a stance of neutrality where others have not. For instance, I was the one who added these sourced sentences: “The characterization has been rejected by many, but not all, Israelis.”, “Some Israelis reject the characterization of genocide, saying such accusations are antisemitic.”. I also modified the phrase “Both Israel and Palestine frequently accuse the other of planning a scheme of genocide.” I also added a rejection of characterisation section which was removed. I have also made sure that it was clear that it was not an official genocide by using language such as ‘argues’, ‘claim’, ‘belief’, ‘characterisation’ and ‘seems’:

“Genocide against Palestinians is a characterization of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict which argues that Israel has carried out and/or is carrying out some kind of genocide against the Palestinian population, sometimes related to the view that Israel is a settler colonial state. The view also includes the belief that the system with which Israel governs the Palestinians is one of racial segregation and apartheid. The characterization has been rejected by many, but not all, Israelis.”

Neutrality has always been important to me, which is probably why I pointed out people’s biases, though this was wrong. My conduct on the talk pages may have been wrong on parts yet I am willing to make amends and I believe that I have never contributed badly or destructively in this topic. So while users such as User: Muboshgu will call me biased and others such as User:HJ Mitchell will find this concerning, I refute this strongly. If anything, I believe that throughout the page’s construction, others, possibly including the person who referred me here (hypocrite anyone https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1180084227?), have been acting very much worse than me with more one-sided edits and wild accusations such as ‘blood libel’ (can’t remember who that was) in the talk page. I feel that in receiving a punishment I am the victim of a collective punishment. This is wrong. I admit I was naive when I received a harsh (as admitted by the person who gave it to me) GENSEX ban, and it is in my opinion wrong to bring it into the result.

Please hear my case.

Edit: sorry if my statement is too long, this was not intended.

Fair enough on that. I take that point. Also, I invited you to read my statement which proves that I have considered my conduct and found some of it wanting. What you say is in part hurtful and not true, and I’d like you to consider how your message came across. Please read my full statement and do not let that one mistake of mine (my only defence is that I was driven to this by a harsh ban and was sad about how things turned out with this editor who seems to bear something against me despite their own questionable conduct which you have not addressed) make up your entire definition of me. Also, I’ve put so much time into this site, making a list of articles much better and more expansive as you can see on my talk page (User:Scientelensia). I have also created a good page. I’ve put so much effort into this that I would really be sad to be banned because of one desperate mistake when I am being the only one out of a collective group being punished :(

Yes, I have done some wrong but looking on the Genocide against Palestinians page you can see that others who are not being punished our doing much worse. I’m anxious of a result and quite unhappy as I believe I deserve another chance and believe that the user who referred me here may also be in the wrong (see all the statements above).

Please read my statement… Scientelensia (talk) 20:53, 17 October 2023 (UTC) Moved from uninvolved admins' section. Threaded discussion is not permitted at AE, please comment only in this section. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 20:59, 17 October 2023 (UTC) [reply]

Statement by Iskandar323

First off, yes. Scientelensia would do well do curb their accusations of bias. We all have bias, we all know it (hopefully), and though this is plainly obvious, constantly accusing other editors of bias does not adhere to AGF or general principles of civility and is a distraction from the activity of actually editing. At the same time, I find it disheartening that Drsmoo would raise this AE just two months after being cautioned in an extremely similar filing Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive321#Nishidani. Drsmoo also does not appear to have attempted to have a single conversation with the accused on their talk prior to this AE filing. It is worth noting that most of these comments by the accused come in the context of one of several fraught discussions at Talk:Genocide against Palestinians, where the editor that launched the thread spoke of "blatant Hamas propaganda", in which context it is rather obvious that the discussion is awash with bias, with hardly a need to mention it. As noted here by Nableezy, what Drsmoo has avoided mentioning is the rather extreme tone of the discussions on the page, with claims of antisemitism and blood libel letting fly in all directions. This does not mitigate the point that personal accusations of bias are to be avoided, but the context here is an exceptionally bias-fraught discussion. The user, who is relatively new, and I believe very new to the space, just needs to internalize their thoughts here and allow the transparent bias is such topic areas to speak for itself without the need to descend to commentary on individual editors. The issue here is a mundane behavioural one that could have been addressed at ANI and may require a slap on the wrist, but it does not rise to the level of an AE-worthy prosecution. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:53, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Drsmoo: I said on their talk page, which is usually the first port of call. Iskandar323 (talk) 16:50, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For other installments of Drsmoo's WP:BATTLEGROUND behaviour, please see the dedicated ANI section that was opened a day before this AE thread, and this other attempt to prosecute other editors today through the abuse of the admin help template. The pattern that emerges from all of this is not a problem with other editors. Iskandar323 (talk) 15:39, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by nableezy

That entire talk page is full of accusations of racism, blood libel (!), antisemitism, and bias. Drsmoo said he did not see those instances, which kind of surprises me as he responded in a thread that opened with an accusation it was made (by Buidhe for the record) in "abuse of power in order to manipulate public opinion regarding current Israel-Hamas war. Raises serious concerns regarding potential political motives that seeks to legitimize Hamas actions against Israelis." All users should focus on the article content, but this selective outrage is just too much. Given something like this remains on the talk page with no admonishment to be found.

Oh and, eyeroll emoji. nableezy - 15:14, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You changed it to "ones biases", not sure I see anywhere that was struck. The point is accusations of bias are common, including occasionally by your good self. They dont necessitate running here when actual accusations of straight up racism and blood libel are being bandied about without an eyebrow being batted. nableezy - 16:00, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Muboshgu

I just reverted an edit by this user exhibiting their pro-Palestinian bias on Kathy Hochul.[1] They may not be able to participate in Israeli/Palestinian articles and discussions on Wikipedia. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:48, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment by A Quest for Knowledge

To play devil's advocate, Scientelensia is a somewhat(?) new editor who made their first edit on November 13 of last year.[2] It's possible that they don't understand things like WP:AGF and that they should address article content, not editor's conduct or suspected motivations. Perhaps a warning and an explanation of why their conduct was lacking might be in order? (That's assuming that they are willing to listen and learn.) A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 13:34, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Selfstudier

Less of the bias stuff would be good. Afaics, the edit referred to by Muboshgu has been reintroduced and is not something I would get overly excited about on its own. As for being provocative take a look at the filer here. A warning is sufficient I think. Selfstudier (talk) 13:36, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Result concerning Scientelensia

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

The conduct here might merit a warning – but really, I think NOTFORUM is just being trampled on up and down the page. Just to spitball, is there something a consensus of admins here can do to enforce talk page standards? All the discussion around vague accusations of non-neutrality where no one is actually focused on proving it (by showing that the current set of sources constitute undue weight) seems to be making discussion of the article unproductive. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:18, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Theleekycauldron Ideally, we should just be removing junk comments as soon as they're posted and if necessary warning or sanctioning editors. We can create an edit notice for the talk page with {{notaforum}}. Quick and decisive action is the best way to keep it under control in my experience. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:30, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm certainly concerned that Scientelensia seems to be stating that they intend to continue making the personalized remarks. I very much agree that they have not been the only offender in that regard, and that perhaps a more general solution for that talk page (maybe limiting each editor to a certain number of posts per discussion?) may also be necessary. But, Scientelensia, maybe you intend your "just sayin'" type remarks to be helpful in some way, but they are clearly not being received like that and will need to stop. I'm concerned that if you don't intend to do that, we'll very shortly find ourselves back here if we just issue a warning. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 03:24, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Muboshgu's diff is concerning. Casually labelling other editors "biased" while making blatantly one-sided edits like that shows either an intent to disrupt or a remarkable lack of self awareness, either of which is incompatible with editing in a contentious topic. I also note that Scientelensia is already subject to a GENSEX topic ban so they should be even more careful. An indef ARBPIA-wide topic ban might be a little over the top but I don't think we can wrap this up without some sort of tangible sanction. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:20, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Scientelensia I'm very confused. How on Earth did you find a a nearly-fourteen-year old complaint about the filer at a noticeboard that hasn't existed for over a decade? And what do you think it proves, except possibly that your battleground mentality drives you to dig up ancient dirt on your opponents instead of considering that there may be issues with your own conduct? If you really can't see the problem with the content you added to a biography of a living person, then I question not just whether you should be editing the Arab-Israeli topic area but whether you should be editing Wikipedia at all. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:46, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Theleekycauldron and @Seraphimblade FYI, I've brought this back from the archive. As I said on my talk page, if we're not going to get a consensus among us for anything more than a logged warning then I'll support that, but I do feel the conduct here rises to the level that some sort of action is necessary, especially considering that Scientelensia has been sanctioned in another contentious topic already. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:32, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I will not object to something like a topic ban from the area, or at least a section of it. I was quite unimpressed by the initial response here, which basically amounted to "Well, I'll keep doing it anyway", and with that on top of already having received one sanction, I don't think a lot of leeway is called for. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 14:18, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was also rather dismayed by the conduct I saw here. If you want to put down a topic ban, I think that's reasonable. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 17:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@HJ Mitchell: Do you intend to TBAN here? It seems that no one else objects, but also no one else is inclined to pull the trigger themself. If you've changed your mind, I think this can close as a logged only-warning. Up to you. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|she) 19:06, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Tamzin I hope Scientelensia has seen the error of their ways. I've been mulling this over for a couple of days. I can live with a final/only warning if we're clear that strong sanctions are the next step. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:21, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration enforcement action appeal by AtypicalPhantom

Procedural notes: The rules governing arbitration enforcement appeals are found here. According to the procedures, a "clear and substantial consensus of uninvolved administrators" is required to overturn an arbitration enforcement action.

To help determine any such consensus, involved editors may make brief statements in separate sections but should not edit the section for discussion among uninvolved editors. Editors are normally considered involved if they are in a current dispute with the sanctioning or sanctioned editor, or have taken part in disputes (if any) related to the contested enforcement action. Administrators having taken administrative actions are not normally considered involved for this reason alone (see WP:UNINVOLVED).

Appealing user: AtypicalPhantom (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) –

Sanction being appealed: Indefinite block for frequent ECR violations, WP:NOTAFORUM violations [3]

Administrator imposing the sanction: ScottishFinnishRadish (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

Notification of that administrator: I know, I copied this over for them. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:55, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by AtypicalPhantom

Hello. It seems I have been permanently banned from editing Wikipedia because of my conduct in the Israel-Hamas conflict page. I am not sure what got me banned specifically, but I would like some transparency if possible. I don't make inflammatory comments, and my last comment was to 0300 objective. I was merely adding context to his comment which in of itself was pretty inflammatory. I see multiple users on that talk page, specifically 0300 objective, who are openly pushing their agenda rather harshly, and I obviously have a pro-Israel lean, but I am respectful with my comments. Having a nuanced discussion is integral to Wikipedia. My comment was to shed light on what was a misunderstanding. With that said, if anything I have said is overtly disallowed, I accept that, and I apologize. I can still contribute meaningfully to Wikipedia and I can exclude myself from the Israel-Hamas conflict page. I would like for the adjudicators to reevaluate my ban. If you come to the same conclusion after reevaluating my activity, you can ban me from discussing this topic, but at least grant me the opportunity to contribute to other articles.AtypicalPhantom (talk) 00:23, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copied from their talk page per their request here and here. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:53, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If it is possible to reply to the admin, I want to say that it isn't true that I am not here to create an encyclopedia. My account is recent, but it predates 10/7. I have niche interests and I had a plan to create several new scientific articles. It's just that the recent conflict sucked up most of my time. AtypicalPhantom (talk) 15:31, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by ScottishFinnishRadish

I probably could have gone with a NOTHERE block and avoided this, but since most of the edits were in ARBPIA I went with that. [4] [5] shows the caliber of edits we're dealing with. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:09, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (involved editor 1)

Statement by (involved editor 2)

Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by AtypicalPhantom

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Result of the appeal by AtypicalPhantom

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Non-constructive comments are not covered by the talkpage exception to ARBECR, and several of AP's comments were non-constructive, so this is a valid exercise of admin discretion. It's harsh, but that talkpage is a nightmare and this user is clearly NOTHERE, so, harsh but valid.
On that note, I think we're overdue for elevated sanctions on Talk:2023 Israel–Hamas war. I'm tempted to ECP it for a few months, but there's some helpful edit requests coming in. Maybe ECP it but create a Talk:2023 Israel–Hamas war/Edit requests, where non-EC users are confined to their own sections? -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|she) 03:25, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think many users would find that page easily, even if linked. In my experience most get to the edit request through trying to edit the page, and I don't know if we can redirect that workflow. Perhaps a large notice that any non-constructive edits or NOTAFORUM violations will result in an immediate one month block from the talk page? No one will read it, but at least we'll have tried. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 03:30, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, after a moment of reconsideration, maybe that would help separate the wheat from the chaff. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 03:33, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that's sort of my thinking. Some less-motivated non-ECs failing to find the request page would probably be a net-positive. That said, the workflow could be redirected if we wanted by adding a special case option to line 57 of Special:Edit/Template:Protected page text. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|she) 03:58, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That talk page is a dumpster fire, but the dumpster fire isn't going anywhere. It'll die down when the conflict does and reignite somewhere else later. The Arab-Israeli conflict on Wikipedia heats and cools with the real-life conflict; you can correlate headline-grabbing moments in the conflict's history almost exactly with the AE log. I remember having similar conversation around the Gaza flotilla raid in 2010 and that's just history now. We may just have to ride out the storm and deal with the inevitable disruption case by case. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:50, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse as clearly an appropriate action; I saw the immediate cause unfold on my watchlist and was considering similar action myself but SFR beat me to it. Given what sounds like a sincere appeal and an inexperienced editor, I wouldn't lose sleep over a conditional unblock with an ARBPIA topic ban (indefinite but reviewable in a few months once the current escalation is not so immediate). HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:51, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration enforcement action appeal by ghostlystatic

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To help determine any such consensus, involved editors may make brief statements in separate sections but should not edit the section for discussion among uninvolved editors. Editors are normally considered involved if they are in a current dispute with the sanctioning or sanctioned editor, or have taken part in disputes (if any) related to the contested enforcement action. Administrators having taken administrative actions are not normally considered involved for this reason alone (see WP:UNINVOLVED).

Appealing user: ghostlystatic (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) – Ghostlystatic (talk) 04:24, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sanction being appealed: General ban

Administrator imposing the sanction: ScottishFinnishRadish (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

Notification of that administrator: Yeah I'm aware. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 04:39, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by ghostlystatic

 I am a Jewish person and I said some uncivil things to people who I believed wanted to hide the 10/07 attacks from the Pogrom page because they wanted to downplay what happened. I didn't mean to be uncivil, but I can only play the NPOV game for so long, especially when there are some editors on here that complain that they openly can't support Palestinian terrorist groups.  Kind of biased and NPOV as it is. I like this encyclopedia. If you decide to ban me, I won't stop liking it. Ghostlystatic (talk) 04:24, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by scottishfinnishradish

Use your discretion they said. Certainly it won't create even more time sinks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 04:39, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (involved editor 1)

Statement by (involved editor 2)

Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by ghostlystatic

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Result of the appeal by ghostlystatic

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This one's more clear-cut than the above. Willful ECR violations through non-constructive edits after being notified of the restriction, consistently combative tone. Decline, and given the timewasting nature of this combative appeal, disallow new appeals for at least 2 months. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|she) 04:55, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Calling people antisemites isn't exactly conducive to collaborative editing. Agree with Tamzin. Galobtter (talk) 17:54, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GWA88

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Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.

Request concerning GWA88

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Carter00000 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 11:14, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: GWA88 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log

Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 4; Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Eastern Europe

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

Under Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 4

General

25 October Undid a revert of an edit made by an IP, per WP:ARBECR, claiming unjustified content removal. Despite the content being malformed and over-linked, did not recognize or correct this after re-adding.
18 October Incorrectly marked a content change as a minor edit. This issue occurs frequently, with edits which are not minor marked as minor.
16 October Removed content claiming it was covered in the previous day, when it was not covered.
15 October Removed slightly misspelt content and claiming the wording for the entire entry was nonsensical.

Diffs for two individual incidents are also presented below:

Incident 1

10 October Edit-warred over merging a entry which was originally added by user as two parts.
11 October WP:BATTLEGROUND wording when opening a discussion on article talk page after being reverted again. Made accusations of clearly misleading readers, issues with historical accuracy, and asking how is this even an issue? when consensus was against user per WP:EDITCON.
11 October WP:IDHT after being warned over WP:BATTLEGROUND behavior and WP:EDITCON.
11 October WP:BLUDGEONING talk-page discussion, repeating previous augment and claiming WP:EDITCON consensus was invailid ..general practice or not the fact remains...

Incident 2

10 October Added WP:OR content not supported by source, asserting that militant groups were led by Hamas. Article makes no mention of other militant groups other than Hamas.
10 October Edit-warred over revert of assertion, violating the 1RR restriction under WP:CT/A-I. Adds a new source which still does not support the previous assertion.
10 October Adds a third source, which still does not support the previous assertion. While the source mentioned groups working together, no reference was made to being led.

Under Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Eastern Europe

19 October Incorrectly marked a content change as a minor edit.
18 October Edit-warred on entry related to the contentious topic, after being blocked for edit-warring on the topic.
6 September Makes a frivolous request to WP:RFPP claiming edit-warring between me and an IP, when I was enforcing WP:ARBECR under WP:GSRUSUKR. IP was blocked independently by an admin and the result was noted on the RFPP request.

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any:

9 July Blocked from the Portal Namespace for 2 weeks for edit-warring as a WP:BOOMRANG result of a WP:AN3 report filed on me. I was also blocked as a result of the report.

User continued to edit-war afterwards, as presented in the diffs above. In another incident, User displayed WP:IDHT when warned, refusing to admit edit warring, despite it being clearly spelled out in the result of the AN3 Report if something you add is reverted, seek a consensus and try to convince others to re-add it for you through pure discussion, not a single revert.

If contentious topics restrictions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:CTOP#Awareness of contentious topics): WP:CT/A-I (Notice); WP:CT/EE (Notice)
Additional comments by editor filing complaint

User has persistent WP:CIR issues as presented above, seemingly not understanding basic concepts, despite having almost 9,000 edits over a period of nine years.

User also does not understand the basics of how consensus works on WP, preferring to continue to edit-war when faced with a content dispute, despite being blocked and warned multiple times. User has:

Claimed that consensus is needed to remove content [6], [7].
Failed to understand WP:NOCONSENSUS.
Claimed only 3RR counts as edit-warring.
Claimed that including a reason in the edit summary exempts talk page discussion.

The user primarily edits in areas related to current events, which frequently overlaps with contentious topics. I think this is of special concern, given the issues presented above.

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Notification

Discussion concerning GWA88

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Statement by GWA88

I'm sorry but this seems like blatant WP:BATTLEGROUND behaviour from an editor who is known to try and get people blocked he has had issues with. Since that original block in July (my one and only block over a 9 year period of editing), I have not been blocked once, whereas Carter00000 has been blocked from the portal again for "edit-warring on P:CE subpages" and making "controversial re-writes to blurbs and enforce your preferred wording.". To be honest, I did expect this to happen as soon as his most recent block ended. He has also left passive aggressive templates on my talk page, introducing me to topics I've made hundreds of edits on over the years and he knows it. I hope admins can see my contributions to the Current Events: Portal are positive and that no else aside from Carter00000 seems to have an issue with me editing there. Thanks. GWA88 (talk) 13:42, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, I would just like any admin seeing this to take a look at my overall contributions, and not just the diffs cited. You can see I'm just an editor who has made thousands of good faith edits over a decade, and I've always tried to steer clear of drama on Wikipedia and stick to my hobby of editing, which is why I rarely if ever leave messages on user's talkpages. And with regards to dispruting Wikipedia, I've had very few disputes in this last year, and the only notable one was with Carter00000, the author of this request. I'll admit, I'm not as savvy at Wikilawyering as Carter00000, but I always try my best to stick to the general guidelines. I hope you close this without a sanction as I do believe this is also motivated by some sort of personal grudge against me. Thank you. GWA88 (talk) 17:50, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (username)

Result concerning GWA88

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