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[[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 13:58, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
[[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 13:58, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

What Roosevelt does say in the 1905 on this topic is the following:
<blockquote>I most earnestly urge that this Nation do all in its power to try to further the movement and to make the result of the decisions of The Hague conference effective. I earnestly hope that the conference may be able to devise some way to make arbitration between nations the customary way of settling international disputes in all save a few classes of cases, which should themselves be as sharply defined and rigidly limited as the present governmental and social development of the world will permit. If possible, there should be a general arbitration treaty negotiated among all the nations represented at the conference. Neutral rights and property should be protected at sea as they are protected on land. There should be an international agreement to this purpose and a similar agreement defining contraband of war.

During the last century there has been a distinct diminution in the number of wars between the most civilized nations. International relations have become closer and the development of The Hague tribunal is not only a symptom of this growing closeness of relationship, but is a means by which the growth can be furthered. Our aim should be from time to time to take such steps as may be possible toward creating something like an organization of the civilized nations, because as the world becomes more highly organized the need for navies and armies will diminish. It is not possible to secure anything like an immediate disarmament, because it would first be necessary to settle what peoples are on the whole a menace to the rest of mankind, and to provide against the disarmament of the rest being turned into a movement which would really chiefly benefit these obnoxious peoples; but it may be possible to exercise some check upon the tendency to swell indefinitely the budgets for military expenditure. Of course such an effort could succeed only if it did not attempt to do too much; and if it were undertaken in a spirit of sanity as far removed as possible from a merely hysterical pseudo-philanthropy. It is worth while pointing out that since the end of the insurrection in the Philippines this Nation has shown its practical faith in the policy of disarmament by reducing its little army one-third. But disarmament can never be of prime importance; there is more need to get rid of the causes of war than of the implements of war.<blockquote>
:So he certainly does support world government and in particular he holds up the Hague as having a positive role. I'm not sure what similar proposals Taft and Lodge were making, that could be interesting to see. Instead of the previous vague smaller quotes, I'll try to restore this with more specific language that he actually used. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 01:43, 7 December 2019 (UTC)


== Incorrect Rank Insignia ==
== Incorrect Rank Insignia ==

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Some sources for the “assassination attempt” section.

“Schrank was immediately disarmed, captured and might have been lynched had Roosevelt not shouted for Schrank to remain unharmed.[1] Roosevelt assured the crowd he was all right, then ordered police to take charge of Schrank and to make sure no violence was done to him.”[2]

References

  1. ^ "The Bull Moose and related media". Archived from the original on March 8, 2010. Retrieved March 8, 2010. to make sure that no violence was done. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
  2. ^ Remey, Oliver E.; Cochems, Henry F.; Bloodgood, Wheeler P. (1912). The Attempted Assassination of Ex-President Theodore Roosevelt. Milwaukee, Wisconsin: The Progressive Publishing Company. p. 192.

Columbia Law School

Hello. President Roosevelt's education section is currently deficient. in 2008, Columbia Law School awarded Roosevelt his J.D posthumously, making him an official member of the Columbia Law School class of 1882. The link outlining the award is listed below. As such, the bar on the right hand side of the page should include his Columbia Law degree, and not simply his Bachelors degree from Harvard.

https://www.law.columbia.edu/media_inquiries/news_events/2008/september2008/roosevelt_jds

Csmal11 (talk) 18:55, 5 July 2019 (UTC)Csmal11[reply]

 Done Alduin2000 (talk) 00:31, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Global governance quotes

Theodore Roosevelt was on record several times as supporting the creation of a world infrastructure similar to the League of Nations, but the following quotes appear to be fake. Can we source these before restoring them?

Roosevelt, usually in coordination with Henry Cabot Lodge and William Howard Taft, began offering proposals for a league of nations to guarantee the world peace, starting in 1905. In his 1905 annual message to Congress[citation needed] he identified the need for "some method" of control of "offending nations" which would someday become the responsibility of "an international peace power."[citation needed]
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/troos.asp
https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/presidential-speeches/december-5-1905-fifth-annual-message

Progressingamerica (talk) 13:58, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What Roosevelt does say in the 1905 on this topic is the following:

I most earnestly urge that this Nation do all in its power to try to further the movement and to make the result of the decisions of The Hague conference effective. I earnestly hope that the conference may be able to devise some way to make arbitration between nations the customary way of settling international disputes in all save a few classes of cases, which should themselves be as sharply defined and rigidly limited as the present governmental and social development of the world will permit. If possible, there should be a general arbitration treaty negotiated among all the nations represented at the conference. Neutral rights and property should be protected at sea as they are protected on land. There should be an international agreement to this purpose and a similar agreement defining contraband of war. During the last century there has been a distinct diminution in the number of wars between the most civilized nations. International relations have become closer and the development of The Hague tribunal is not only a symptom of this growing closeness of relationship, but is a means by which the growth can be furthered. Our aim should be from time to time to take such steps as may be possible toward creating something like an organization of the civilized nations, because as the world becomes more highly organized the need for navies and armies will diminish. It is not possible to secure anything like an immediate disarmament, because it would first be necessary to settle what peoples are on the whole a menace to the rest of mankind, and to provide against the disarmament of the rest being turned into a movement which would really chiefly benefit these obnoxious peoples; but it may be possible to exercise some check upon the tendency to swell indefinitely the budgets for military expenditure. Of course such an effort could succeed only if it did not attempt to do too much; and if it were undertaken in a spirit of sanity as far removed as possible from a merely hysterical pseudo-philanthropy. It is worth while pointing out that since the end of the insurrection in the Philippines this Nation has shown its practical faith in the policy of disarmament by reducing its little army one-third. But disarmament can never be of prime importance; there is more need to get rid of the causes of war than of the implements of war.

So he certainly does support world government and in particular he holds up the Hague as having a positive role. I'm not sure what similar proposals Taft and Lodge were making, that could be interesting to see. Instead of the previous vague smaller quotes, I'll try to restore this with more specific language that he actually used. Progressingamerica (talk) 01:43, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Incorrect Rank Insignia

In the summary, it correctly lists Roosevelt as achieving the rank of colonel but the accompanying image is of a lieutenant colonel insignia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.24.24.150 (talk) 21:14, 29 October 2019 (UTC)