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Technoblade has went to the University of Iowa as a creative writing major<ref> https://dailyiowan.com/2023/04/30/technoblade-never-dies-former-university-of-iowa-student-and-youtuber-remembered-after-death/ </ref> [[User:Choqi3|Choqi3]] ([[User talk:Choqi3|talk]]) 14:32, 3 May 2023 (UTC) |
Technoblade has went to the University of Iowa as a creative writing major<ref> https://dailyiowan.com/2023/04/30/technoblade-never-dies-former-university-of-iowa-student-and-youtuber-remembered-after-death/ </ref> [[User:Choqi3|Choqi3]] ([[User talk:Choqi3|talk]]) 14:32, 3 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:I believe that the source given should be fine, as it's the university themselves saying that someone went to that university. There's also [https://www.reddit.com/r/Technoblade/comments/yzjnwm/starting_college/ a post on Reddit from Technoblade's father] with Technoblade appearing in front of the University of Iowa, as well as [https://www.reddit.com/r/Technoblade/comments/yzjnwm/starting_college/ix278au/ a comment from Technoblade's father] which says the name of the university. [[User:Strugglehouse|Strugglehouse]] ([[User talk:Strugglehouse|talk]]) 16:15, 13 May 2023 (UTC) |
:I believe that the source given should be fine, as it's the university themselves saying that someone went to that university. There's also [https://www.reddit.com/r/Technoblade/comments/yzjnwm/starting_college/ a post on Reddit from Technoblade's father] with Technoblade appearing in front of the University of Iowa, as well as [https://www.reddit.com/r/Technoblade/comments/yzjnwm/starting_college/ix278au/ a comment from Technoblade's father] which says the name of the university. [[User:Strugglehouse|Strugglehouse]] ([[User talk:Strugglehouse|talk]]) 16:15, 13 May 2023 (UTC) |
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Frequently asked questions Q0: "Technoblade never dies!" ("Please add one of Technoblade's quotes to the article!")
A0: Thank you for the reminder. Please refrain from editing or blanking the main article's contents with such contents, or adding a talk page topic requesting such additions. From WP:AIM:
Q1a: When did Technoblade die? (Why can't I edit the page?)
A1a: The exact day of Technoblade's death has not been confirmed. While the video announcing his death was uploaded on June 30, 2022, it does not necessarily mean that he died on that specific date. It is most likely that Technoblade died during June 2022, however. Do not change (or request changes for) this date without consensus being reached on the talk page or until reliable sources are found that provide further details. Q1b: Why is June 2022—with no further granularity—Technoblade's date of death? (Why shouldn't I add or request to add "such-and-such" information about Technoblade to be added to the main article, even though "so-and-so" source makes those claims?)
A1b: While certain websites (or specific archives of such websites) claim that Technoblade died on a specific date, Wikipedia prioritizes verifiability over truth—even if anyone involved with such websites (and its respective archives) swear on their mothers' graves that the date of death they're claiming is authentic. As such, Technoblade's date of death will remain as June 2022 until a reliable source (such as a member of Technoblade's family) confirms Technoblade's date of death on an official capacity—and as of now, Technoblade's family can only confirm that Technoblade's date of death was in June 2022. This same principle applies to any personal information attached to Technoblade: unless such information is confirmed by a reliable source (no original research, no synthesis), edit requests requesting to add such information will (at best) be ignored, and edits revolving around personal information regarding Technoblade which goes against the current consensus will either be reverted or redacted. Again, please do not change (or request changes for) this date or information of a personal nature until a consensus has been reached on the talk page. Q2: Why are the photos of Alexander limited to his YouTube channel logo and him in a suit?
A2: Wikipedia does not want to use images that are not free. There are certain exceptions, but for the time being, the article's photos of Alexander will be limited to his YouTube channel logo and that of him in a suit. Q3a: Where is the list of Technoblade's achievements? (Bedwars winstreak, [PIG+++] rank, etc.)
A3a: Wikipedia aims to use a variety of reliable sources, and while Technoblade's Twitter account has plenty of documentation of his achievements, the tweets chosen for citing must follow all the provisions of citing self-published sources and (ideally) be supplemented with reputable news articles. Additionally, Wikipedia articles aim to give due weight proportional to aspects of an article's subject as seen in published and reliable sources on said subject. This is why the article mentions Technoblade's completion of Minecraft Hardcore Mode with a steering wheel (as seen in PC Gamer), his victory in MrBeast's $100,000 player versus player duels with Dream (as seen in EssentiallySports), and his involvement in The Great Potato War (as seen in The New York Times), while it disregards his other achievements. Q3b: Why is the
Known for section in Technoblade's infobox limited to the Dream SMP and MC Championship?A3b: The Known for section in the infobox is reserved for Wikipedia articles that are often associated with Technoblade. The only exceptions to this rule are the Minecraft Wikipedia article and Wikipedia articles about other individuals associated with Technoblade, which is what the Associated acts section is for. As such, any edit requests regarding the Known for and the Associated acts sections of the infobox should ensure that the respective Wikipedia articles should not be drafts and should meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines.Q4: Did Technoblade die of sarcoma or cancer?
A4: Sarcoma is a specific type of cancer that affects connective tissues in the body such as bone, cartilage, and fat. While Technoblade did not disclose the specific type or nature of his cancer on his YouTube channel, and news reports immediately following his death were split on reporting the cause of his death as either sarcoma or cancer, Technoblade did significant fundraising for the Sarcoma Foundation of America (SFA) through his YouTube channel (as noted by reliable sources) and the SFA published a press release acknowledging that Technoblade was diagnosed with sarcoma. Therefore, the balance of available information indicates that Technoblade died specifically of sarcoma, and not another undisclosed type of cancer. Q5a: Can I cite
u/MrTechnodad as a source for any claims about Technoblade? (Are Reddit posts/comments about Technoblade considered reliable sources per Wikipedia policies?)A5a: According to Wikipedia’s relevant stance on Reddit as a reliable source, no. This stance applies to both Reddit posts and comments, as content from Reddit is user-generated. However, if you feel ever so bold that the Reddit content in question can be used as a reliable source, please take your concerns to the reliable sources noticeboard and be sure to think twice before ignoring the rules or the current talk page consensus. Additionally, refer to previous discussion(s) on the reliable sources noticeboard: 1. Q5b: Would I be able to cite Reddit content from Technoblade's Reddit account
u/Technothereddit ?A5b: Assuming that the claim being made with the Reddit citation meets both the relevant due weight criteria and the relevant reliable source criteria, yes. However, note that content associated with Technoblade's Reddit account is inherently user-generated and any notable claims made from its brief post or comment history can usually be found within reliable sources. This same principle applies to attempts to cite content from Technoblade's Twitter account @Technothepig ; see the answer to question 3 for more information.Q7: Something happened that was done in memory of Technoblade. May I please (make an edit request to) add this to the main article?
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Technoblade's Death Date
His official obituary states that he had passed away on the 10th of June, 2022. Currently, the wiki states that he had died in June, without any date, which is vague. 223.178.211.57 (talk) 03:32, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Where is his "official obituary" published, and who wrote it? Can you provide a link to it? Cullen328 (talk) 03:34, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'd like to quote several sentences from WP:TRUTH (and hopefully this will serve as a catch-all response to anyone else who claims to know Technoblade's exact date of death):
- In other cases, accuracy itself is under dispute: a certain question may indeed have a true answer, but nobody knows what it is yet, so a lack of complete information leads to people supporting a variety of possible answers.
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- The stance of Wikipedia on such things is to avoid giving undue weight to such minority ideas, and represent instead the current state of understanding of a topic.
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- Wikipedia only reports what the reliable sources say; it does not publish what its editors just believe is true.
- To tie this quote into the case of Technoblade's date of death: yes, there were certain pieces of his personal information being leaked by certain unnamed individuals outside of Wikipedia during June and July 2022—especially after his death was announced. Yes, it's true that his exact date of death was revealed through unscrupulous means. Streisand effect aside, there is no intention to include that information anywhere in the main article until someone (most likely a member of Technoblade's family) confirms Technoblade's date of death—and subsequently fulfills the reliable source necessary to include that date of death in the main article. That's why (as of writing this) there are multiple invisible comments in the main article that explicitly instruct editors to keep his date of death to "June 2022". Cheers, u|RayDeeUx (contribs | talk page) 05:48, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
"Holding" his plaque
The caption and FAQ both talk about Technoblade holding his Youtube plaque in the Technoblade_in_hospital_in_2022.webp photo, but he's clearly not holding it. Where did this wording come from? Is there consensus against changing it? HerrWaus (talk) 17:00, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't know if there is consensus against changing this as the hidden note says to open a talk page discussion about the caption, however I do agree that it's inaccurate as he isn't holding it. @RayDeeUx: pinging the user who added that hidden note ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 17:05, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Must've typed that while on one of my editing sprees. Am willing to change caption to "Technoblade with his subscriber plaque". @HerrWaus: + @Blaze Wolf:, thoughts? Cheers, u|RayDeeUx (contribs | talk page) 21:10, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Good enough for me! ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:13, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! I was going to change it to exactly that myself soon, as I'm pretty sure the note to not change it was just about not saying the photo was taken in hospital. HerrWaus (talk) 21:29, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Must've typed that while on one of my editing sprees. Am willing to change caption to "Technoblade with his subscriber plaque". @HerrWaus: + @Blaze Wolf:, thoughts? Cheers, u|RayDeeUx (contribs | talk page) 21:10, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
Technoblade fans and beliefs.
Many Technoblade fans wouldn't believe he's gone (Me too). It would be a good thing to add to the article. And the fact that millions of people cried and were shocked even the haters. Fans believe he's risen up to heaven to take over the kingdom of god (even though he's an atheist, he revealed it). That will be an good thing to add to the article wouldn't it. I'm not pressuring though. You can do if you feel like it. What do you think? 151.71.188.250 (talk) 07:59, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
- @151.71.188.250 And he is also known mostly as "
- Techno" or "The blood god" not "Technothepig" 151.71.229.195 (talk) 17:02, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Have these beliefs been covered in reliable sources? E.g is there an article from a reputable news source talking about these?
- Otherwise without significant coverage these beliefs will just not be included in the article. A diehard editor (talk | edits) 17:47, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- @A diehard editor It's just a saying. His famous saying "Technoblade never dies". Fans say this in tributes and all. That's ok. It doesn't need to be in the article. Just wanted to say because it's a fun thing to know. Sorry for wasting your time. Hope you have a great day. 151.71.229.195 (talk) 16:13, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- Don't worry, it wasn't a waste of my time. I don't mind. A diehard editor (talk | edits) 07:34, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- @A diehard editor It's just a saying. His famous saying "Technoblade never dies". Fans say this in tributes and all. That's ok. It doesn't need to be in the article. Just wanted to say because it's a fun thing to know. Sorry for wasting your time. Hope you have a great day. 151.71.229.195 (talk) 16:13, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- @151.71.229.195 Technothepig is his Twitter name. 151.71.229.195 (talk) 16:13, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
Sarcoma
Why are there notes under the type of cancer Alex died from when it has been stated multiple times by SFA and Alex's father that he died of sarcoma? The only thing we don't know is what type of sarcoma Alex died from. Either these notes should be completely removed or they should be changed to "an unspecified type of sarcoma". The Government is here (talk) 10:26, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, I set the framework of that (foot)note some months ago. It was written before the SFA press release was taken into account, and since then remains in the article as-is to acknowledge the lack of consensus between news sources shortly after Technoblade's death, but before the SFA press release was written. Cheers, u|RayDeeUx (contribs | talk page) 14:09, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply. Since we now know Alex's death was from Sarcoma and not some "unspecified" type of cancer, these notes can be removed; changed to "unspecified type of sarcoma". The Government is here (talk) 16:43, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
Mild amounts of housekeeping
In a bit of a time crunch, but I wanted to drop these two potential sources and ask if they'll add anything substantial to the main article:
— https://dailyiowan.com/2023/04/30/technoblade-never-dies-former-university-of-iowa-student-and-youtuber-remembered-after-death/ (Potential citation for the college Technoblade attended, new section)
— https://www.curesarcoma.org/technoblade-courage-award-at-new-york-gala/ (Technoblade SFA Courage award, to go under 'Reactions' heading)
Let me know how viable these sources are to the main article. Cheers, u|RayDeeUx (contribs | talk page) 16:53, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Just fyi, we're currently considering the reliability of the Daily Iowan in the section below this. Actualcpscm (talk) 17:58, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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Technoblade has went to the University of Iowa as a creative writing major[1] Choqi3 (talk) 14:32, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Callmemirela 🍁 15:08, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Is dailyiowan not a reliable source? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:10, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- It looks like a blog to me. Callmemirela 🍁 15:12, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Looking at the main page, it appears to be a the University of Iowa's student newspaper. So it's not necessarily a blog, but I'm not sure what that means for the source. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:15, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- It looks like a blog to me. Callmemirela 🍁 15:12, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Is dailyiowan not a reliable source? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:10, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Question: in what year? M.Bitton (talk) 17:49, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: As the reliability of this source is disputed, it would be easiest if you could provide an unambiguously reliable one. Alternatively, we might need to have an extended discussion about the reliability of student newspapers, if that has not occurred elsewhere on Wikipedia already. Actualcpscm (talk) 17:57, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Not done for now: Given the discussion below, I'm closing the request for now. Callmemirela 🍁 19:52, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- I believe that the source given should be fine, as it's the university themselves saying that someone went to that university. There's also a post on Reddit from Technoblade's father with Technoblade appearing in front of the University of Iowa, as well as a comment from Technoblade's father which says the name of the university. Strugglehouse (talk) 16:15, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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