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After expanding Gustatory hyperhidrosis I'm starting to notice that most of the classification systems seem to list it as a synonym for Frey's syndrome. Before i make a redirect can anyone else find a clear distinction between the two.
Orpha entry, NORD entry, ICD11 classification, OMIM entry, MESH ID, Disease database entry. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 04:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- redirect--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 01:29, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Promotional edits relating to Cord blood.
I've recently got done with reverting a large amount of promotional editing relating to private cord blood banks across several articles, from a couple of single-purpose IP editors. These edits included non-WP:MEDRS sourcing, namedropping of particular companies, and cherry-picking quotes from various bodies to misrepresent their support for cord blood treatments. Here's a list of articles I found problems with:
- Amniotic stem cells
- Cell potency
- Cord blood bank
- Cord blood
- Cordlife
- Cryo-Save
- Developmental verbal dyspraxia
- Hematopoietic stem cell transplantation
- Hematopoietic stem cell
- Ideational apraxia
- Matthew Schissler
- Motor neuron diseases
- Neurological disorder
- Prenatal care in the United States
- Regenerative medicine
- Stem cell
- Stem-cell therapy
- Tay–Sachs disease
- Umbilical cord
I think it is very likely that this is undisclosed paid editing. Please consider putting the affected articles on your watchlist to keep an eye out for more promo. - MrOllie (talk) 16:27, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- probably [1]--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:17, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Sources for brain health and pollution / Vascular dementia
In case anyone is interested:
A long list of sources for pollution and neurological conditions. --Dustfreeworld (talk) 21:23, 8 April 2024 (UTC);03:39, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think we need some help. One of the sources being preferred in Vascular dementia is apparently a 24-year-old newsletter "article" from a local medical club. Just having someone tag or remove the outdated material (twenty-four years old!) would be helpful. There are only five current editors watching this page. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:58, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
The Cass Review
The Cass Review is an important and much anticipated "independent review of gender identity services for children and young people" led by Hilary Cass, which was commissioned by NHS England in 2020 and is due to report tomorrow (10th April 2024). It is likely to generate a lot of news coverage, but hopefully also some professional responses too. The Wikipedia article was only created yesterday by User:Void if removed so likely isn't on many watchlists. It would be good if editors here could help over the coming days. Thanks. -- Colin°Talk 13:27, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
I'm currently updating the page Chronic functional abdominal pain and I have questions about the article title.
The ICD11 lists it as functional abdominal pain syndrome.[3] However several article discuss renaming it to Centrally mediated abdominal pain syndrome.[4]
I'm just wondering what name would be more appropriate here. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 23:11, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Since CMAP is mentioned in the first sentence of the lede it's probably not an issue worth worrying about, but WP:MEDTITLE guidance is always worth a read. CV9933 (talk) 11:29, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah the main problem I have with the current title is that it doesn't distinguish it as a syndrome or disease and that may lead to confusion. According to WP:MEDTITLE "The article title should be the scientific or recognised medical name that is most commonly used in recent, high-quality, English-language medical sources, rather than a lay term (unscientific or slang name) or an historical eponym that has been superseded." and the ICD-11 is recommended for disease names. The only thing is that the ICD-11 uses the term "functional abdominal pain syndrome" but newer literature including the Rome criteria uses the term " Centrally mediated abdominal pain syndrome" CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 19:13, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- These types of discussions often lead to those who would propose that when searched, title A produced X hits and title B returned XXX hits therefore title B should be used. But MEDTITLE also tells us that some terminology is in flux and recently proposed names may not yet be widespread in adoption, from which one might infer that there is no rush and doing nothing for now is probably the best course of action. CV9933 (talk) 19:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- My only problem with the current title is that it isn't commonly used in literature and isn't classified under any of the disease databases (for lack of better terms) that we use. WP:MEDTITTLE also specifies that "The article title should be the scientific or recognised medical name" which isn't true for Chronic functional abdominal pain. I think it would make more sense to rename it to "functional abdominal pain syndrome" as that seems to be the more recognized term and is what's used by the ICD-11 and because as you mentioned proposed names might not be widespread. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 20:31, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- You could be bold and just change it with your rationale in the edit summary, or propose a move on the article talk page. If the latter, then use it as an opportunity to gain consensus to update the title to CAMPS. CV9933 (talk) 08:49, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help! I’ll change it tonight when I have the time to make sure all the names match. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 18:28, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- You could be bold and just change it with your rationale in the edit summary, or propose a move on the article talk page. If the latter, then use it as an opportunity to gain consensus to update the title to CAMPS. CV9933 (talk) 08:49, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- My only problem with the current title is that it isn't commonly used in literature and isn't classified under any of the disease databases (for lack of better terms) that we use. WP:MEDTITTLE also specifies that "The article title should be the scientific or recognised medical name" which isn't true for Chronic functional abdominal pain. I think it would make more sense to rename it to "functional abdominal pain syndrome" as that seems to be the more recognized term and is what's used by the ICD-11 and because as you mentioned proposed names might not be widespread. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 20:31, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- These types of discussions often lead to those who would propose that when searched, title A produced X hits and title B returned XXX hits therefore title B should be used. But MEDTITLE also tells us that some terminology is in flux and recently proposed names may not yet be widespread in adoption, from which one might infer that there is no rush and doing nothing for now is probably the best course of action. CV9933 (talk) 19:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah the main problem I have with the current title is that it doesn't distinguish it as a syndrome or disease and that may lead to confusion. According to WP:MEDTITLE "The article title should be the scientific or recognised medical name that is most commonly used in recent, high-quality, English-language medical sources, rather than a lay term (unscientific or slang name) or an historical eponym that has been superseded." and the ICD-11 is recommended for disease names. The only thing is that the ICD-11 uses the term "functional abdominal pain syndrome" but newer literature including the Rome criteria uses the term " Centrally mediated abdominal pain syndrome" CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 19:13, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi - this article seems to have attracted a number of dubious claims / sources. I tried to delete a number of unreliable sources, but I think this article needs some serious editing to make sure statements are backed up by WP:MEDRS-worthy sources, which definitely isn't the case now. Thank you! GnocchiFan (talk) 21:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- per the talk page you might want to post at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sexology and sexuality--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:42, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Note there is a RfC at
Which may be of interest to members of this noticeboard as it contains question about the application of MEDRS and invokes an 'Opposing view' for certain syndromes. Bon courage (talk) 02:50, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- give opinion(gave mine)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:44, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hi all
A major review into trans healthcare, the Cass Review, has been published in the UK, I'd really appreciate if people with an understanding of medical research could read it, its currently a very edited article with quite high traffic. To put it mildly the report is being used by politicians and press to push for restrictions to healthcare provisions. The report has been criticised by academics and trans groups in the UK for issues with both its research methodology and its recommendations, but I don't have experience in writing about this kind of thing on Wikipedia.
Thanks
John Cummings (talk) 11:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- hi, I could be wrong but if you look two/three spots up its the same post, --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:10, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Thank you
Hi! I hope this is the right venue for this feedback. I have chronic medical problems that were slowly destroying my life, and none of my doctors could figure out what was going on or what to do about it. I have now identified some of my conditions and found treatments that help a great deal, and my doctors and I are working to understand my illness more clearly and improve my symptoms further. I finally get to start living a real life again, and I couldn't have done it without the tireless efforts of WikiProject Medicine contributors. I will be grateful forever, please keep up the great work. 174.21.188.119 (talk) 23:16, 15 April 2024 (UTC)