Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cephalopods

Naming policy

I am writing an article on the Atlantic Brief Squid, Lolliguncula brevis.

Is there a policy within WikiProject Cephalopods on naming articles? Many cephalopod articles seem to have their full titles starting with capital letters which is not the general policy throughout Wikipedia. I would prefer to use the scientific name. Any views? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 21:02, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

I would certainly go with the scientific name for the article title. Most of these cephalopod "common names" are hardly used at all outside of Wikipedia and the publications that coined them (compare Lolliguncula brevis and Atlantic Brief Squid - add speech marks to get exact results). Unfortunately, the precedent for using vernacular names for cephalopod species was set long ago and followed by most article authors (admittedly including myself). There's no real consensus for this naming standard - it was simply followed for the sake of consistency. Neale Monks explained the situation better than I can here (and that was in 2006!). Ideally, all of these obscure names should be moved to their corresponding binomials, but no one's got around to doing it yet. mgiganteus1 (talk) 21:47, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. What you said sounds sensible as does what Neale Monks said in 2006. Quite apart from Google Scholar, a general Google search brings up many more results for the scientific name and that is what I will use. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:37, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

RFC at Talk:Copulation#Should_the_Copulation_article_exist.3F

You may want to participate in the RFC at Talk:Copulation#Should_the_Copulation_article_exist.3F --Philcha (talk) 13:34, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguation opinions

Hi. I'd be grateful if editors which an interest in disambiguation could take a look at Tristis and let me know their thoughts on its talk page. Thanks SP-KP (talk) 10:17, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Cephalopod tentacularly tangled taxonomy

oh god... T_T

Can someone point me to a relatively stable taxonomy of coleoidea which includes (instead of completely ignores) fossil orders? Paleodb uses Nishiguchi & Mapes, 2008. I would have happily adopted that to the exclusion of the recommended but extremely dated taxonomy used by Wikiproject Cephalopods currently, except that aside from mentioning Belemnitida in-text, it was not described and seems to be excluded (or forgotten?) from the newly promoted Superorder Belemnoida. Any thoughts on this to those with wider access to academic journals? What should take precedence and which should I use. Doesn't help that Cephbase seems to be dead for a while now and I can't find anything stable anywhere.--Obsidi♠n^Soul 04:16, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

For fossil taxa, I usually consult the Paleobiology Database. Note, however, that very few extant taxa are included in this database. Bob the WikipediaN ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:08, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Aye, so it's Nishiguchi & Mapes, 2008 then, heh. Which introduces a new problem. Belemnitida is not classified under Superorder Belemnoida. Oh well. I'll place it under See also. Thanks.--Obsidi♠n^Soul 00:07, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Food web

Food web is currently being rewritten, and will hopefully go to FA. Any relevant contributions from people in this project will be much appreciated. --Epipelagic (talk) 06:16, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Spire in the shell of cephalopods

Hi folks, I am from the gastropod project. I want to ask you if the term "spire" is still applied to the shell of coiled shelled cephalopods like the Nautilus spp and the ammonites? We have a short article entitled Spire (mollusc). If "spire" is considered suitable terminology in cephalopod shells I will mention that, and leave the article name as it is. If not, I will move the name to Spire (gastropod). Best wishes and thanks for any help you can give me. Invertzoo (talk) 14:30, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Taxonomy vs Classification vs Systematics vs.....

Debate on taxonomy sections listed at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Tree_of_life#Taxonomy_vs_Classification_vs_Systematics_vs..... It follows on from discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Plants#General_structure_for_plant_articles_and_lists cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:44, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

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Patagonian octopus mentioned

The San Matías Gulf article says,

The local fishing industry may be unsustainably harvesting purple clam (Amiantis purpurata), Tehuelche scallop (Aequipecten tehuelchus), mussel (Mytilus edulis platensis), and ribbed mussel (Aulacomya atra), as well as the Patagonian octopus (Octopus tehuelchus).

Here are three bivalves and an octopus, either without articles, or with incorrect links. Can some octopus person please look into creating an article or correcting the link? Help with the bivalve situation would also be welcomed. --DThomsen8 (talk) 22:21, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Is seafood a subset of cuisine?

Should articles on seafood be given titles that restrict them to cuisines, as a user maintains in this thread? There is a referral for comment on this issue where members of this project are invited to give their views. --Epipelagic (talk) 23:11, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

has anyone seen a paper nautilus shell, as good as this one?

http://sam.nipl.net/pix/shell1.jpg http://sam.nipl.net/pix/shell2.jpg http://sam.nipl.net/pix/shell3.jpg It's my mum's, she found it half buried in sand on a beach! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sam Watkins (talk • contribs) 13:43, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

That's an exceptionally fine specimen of Argonauta argo you've got there. How big is it exactly? mgiganteus1 (talk) 14:41, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Cephalopod attack!

If you would, please see Talk:Cephalopod_attack#Split_into_.22Octopus_attack.22_and_.22Squid_attack.22. I hope many cephalophiles here will enjoy helping to create an article octopus attacks on humans and the other on squid attacks on humans. If so, please add this project to your project page task list. Chrisrus (talk) 02:40, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

While cephalopod attacks are certainly interesting for speculation and fiction, there needs to be more substance to validate the article as it is before any consideration of splitting. By all means, add information from reputable sources, with proper balanced context (e.g. the relative frequency of attacks). --Animalparty-- (talk) 07:05, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Needham's sac

Hi there - I'm interested in adding cephalopod anatomy articles. I thought it might be useful to try and ensure all the links in the cephalopod anatomy template were complete. I created a draft page here - User:Cmungall/Needham's_sac - is this too minimal to be an article in itself? Is this better merged into a broader article, e.g. on the reproductive system? Thanks for any advice! Cmungall (talk) 22:26, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

In my opinion, it is better merged into a broader article, for both context and clarity. From the stub-article, I can't quickly find information on cephalopod reproduction (Reproductive system is too broad a subject). I'd prefer an article devoted to Cephalopod reproduction- split off and elaborated from Cephalopod- with a central discussion of the structures and behaviors involved. I think discreet anatomical organ articles should only be created when they appear in various unrelated organisms, or are so complex (and/or important) they require a good deal more than a stub to describe. --Animalparty-- (talk) 05:45, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Regarding Template:Cephalopod anatomy

Hi all! I'd like to draw attention to a discussion on Template talk:Cephalopod anatomy, regarding the Cephalopod anatomy template, and the need (or lack thereof) to fill in all the red-links. Thanks. --Animalparty-- (talk) 05:29, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello Animalparty, It appears that you have had no feedback on this question, so unless I am wrong about that, I would recommend you go ahead and make the changes that you suggested on the template talk page. Invertzoo (talk) 14:16, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

CephBase: dead or moved?

It's very worth mentioning that CephBase is currently down, and possibly may have been dead since 2011 according to earlier comments on this page. I can't seem to find information on alternate site address. As such, any links or references directly citing CephBase are unverifiable, and journal article PDFs hosted on CephBase need new links if available. From a wiki search at least 39 articles mention CephBase. --Animalparty-- (talk) 19:08, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Why no quality ranking?

None of the Project articles appear to be indexed by quality. Hence, those articles most in need of improvement, nor those most dseriving recognition, can be seen. If anyone knows how to change this, or explain why quality is not tracked, please do. --Animalparty-- (talk) 23:02, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

I am from Wikipedia: WikiProject Gastropods, where our articles are already "indexed by quality". I believe the first step is a simple matter of adding... |class=?|importance=? ...to your basic project template. Then one or more workers need to go through and assess all of the existing articles, filling in the class and importance in the template on the talk page of each one, and subsequently those assessments will be automatically displayed in the chart of your article statistics: Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Cephalopods articles by quality statistics. I hope this is helpful. Invertzoo (talk) 15:00, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Draft of an octopus article

Would someone from this project mind looking at a draft of an article on Macrotritopus defilippi? The draft is currently here. if someone does look at it, would they scrutinize it carefully because I am trying to help the editor learn to be more careful about how she extracts info from sources. Although she is an experienced editor, In the past she appears to have introduced errors into her new and newly expanded articles when trying to paraphrase from sources, especially when she was writing about topics that she did not understand in depth. Many thanks for any help you can give, Invertzoo (talk) 00:23, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

List of edible molluscs includes some cephalopods

This list article was created a week or two ago; basically it was a bare list taken straight from Category Edible molluscs, with no additional refinements. This morning I put in three hours of work trying to improve it .It looks a lot better now but it still has only one small reference (!) and no doubt could use numerous other refinements. Would someone please be kind enough to take a look at it and see if they can improve it further? Thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 14:53, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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Cephbase back in action?!

It seems that Cephbase was down and unlocatable for a while. However, it appears there are now at least 2 active websites called CephBase http://cephbase.eol.org/ and http://www.thecephalopodpage.org/cephbase.php. Perhaps the {{CephBase Genus}} and similar templates should be updated, since none of them appear to work. --Animalparty-- (talk) 04:36, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Category:Octopodidae vs Category:Octopuses

The Octopodidae category contains some genera but also some species. What should be added into this category? Same goes for the Octopuses category. Although the former is a subcategory of the latter, I don't get why there seems to be the same chaotic content in both categories. I have recently found interest in categorization related to taxonomy, but are there clear guidelines and procedures to follow? The Average Wikipedian (talk) 15:16, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

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Populating the "Molluscs described in YYYY" categories

Various editors, including myself, have been creating categories such as Category:Molluscs described in 2000‎ and populating them. It is rather slow, repetitive and tedious. I am considering setting up a bot for the task of moving molluscs from "Animals described in..." categories to the corresponding "Molluscs described in..." category. Any thoughts?

It has been suggested at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Gastropods#Populating_the_"Molluscs_described_in_YYYY"_categories that gastropods should be put into their own categories as part of this task. William Avery (talk) 11:42, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

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RfC on categorizing by year of formal description

Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Request for comment: categorizing by year of formal description for a discussion on possible guidelines for categorizing by year of formal description of a species. Peter coxhead (talk) 10:54, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

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Bivalves/Cephalopods/Chitons described in YYYY categories

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List of cephalopods

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