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Could the New Year (N.S. 1127) of Nepalese people according to Nepal Sambat, a lunar calendar, be added to the anniversaries in this date?--Eukesh 15:03, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please mention this on the relevant pages. Today's date should be mentioned in the article with the bolded link. --PFHLai 18:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have trouble finding references to confirm the date of this New Year's Day as today. It seems Tihar may be more prominent. Can someone put in the dates, please ? -- PFHLai 19:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please add 1956 Hungarian Revolution this is the 50th anniversary and a featured article! --Kun25 20:08, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This was removed because it's the featured article today. We should avoid double-featuring the same page. --PFHLai 18:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

From main page error report for 23 October 2009:

National Day in Hungary (23 October)[edit]

This National Day is a double commemoration, firstly of the 1956 uprising, and secondly, it is also the birthday of the Republic. Both the years of 1956 and 1989 should appear appropriately next to the name "National Day".88.87.241.43 (talk) 09:48, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: War of Jenkins' Ear (maintenance); The Smurfs (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Shankill Road bombing
Omitted: Irish Rebellion of 1641; National Women's Rights Convention; Hungarian Revolution of 1956; 1983 Beirut barracks bombing; iPod
Included: Pope Symmachus (first appearance); Battle for Henderson Field (first appearance; 70th anniversary); Operation Linebacker (2nd appearance, last in 2010; 40th anniversary); Phillips Disaster of 1989 (first appearance); Moscow theater hostage crisis (5th appearance, last in 2008; 10th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:08, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 23 October 2012[edit]

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The Hungarian Revolution of 1956 really, really ought to be included here... not only one a national memorial day in Hungary, but a major turning point in the Cold War globally. Of far greater importance -- this is subjective, yes, but not without merit, I think -- than, for example, the ending date of a US bombing campaign in Vietnam, or a failed Japanese attack in WWII. Korossyl (talk) 16:30, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Korossyl (talk) 16:30, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need for an edit request now as the page is unprotected until next year. Woody (talk) 12:26, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The short answer to this request is that not every article will appear every year. Please see the FAQ above, question Q1. If you see Talk:Hungarian Revolution of 1956, you can see that the article had been included from 2009–11, so it just took a break this year. —howcheng {chat} 16:42, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes[edit]

Omitted: Pope Symmachus; Battle for Henderson Field; Operation Linebacker; Phillips Disaster of 1989; Moscow theater hostage crisis
Included: Valentinian III (4th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Malet coup of 1812 (first appearance); Hungarian Revolution of 1956 (8th appearance, last in 2011); 1983 Beirut barracks bombing (9th appearance, last in 2011; 30th anniversary); Shankill Road bombing (first appearance; 20th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 05:35, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes[edit]

Omitted: Valentinian III; Malet coup of 1812; 1983 Beirut barracks bombing; Shankill Road bombing
Included: Irish Rebellion of 1641 (2nd appearance, last in 2011); National Women's Rights Convention (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Phillips Disaster of 1989 (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 25th anniversary); iPod (2nd appearance, last in 2011)
Repeats: Hungarian Revolution of 1956 (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total)

Is it too late to add that today is Diwali?[edit]

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The header says it all. Pizza1016 (talk | contribs) 05:58, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done Nope. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 10:54, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes[edit]

Omitted: National Women's Rights Convention; Hungarian Revolution of 1956; Phillips Disaster of 1989; iPod
Included: Malet coup of 1812 (2nd appearance, last in 2013); ABS-CBN (first appearance); Operation Linebacker (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Moscow theater hostage crisis (5th appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: Irish Rebellion of 1641 (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 11:16, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Valentinian III (maintenance); Phillips disaster of 1989 (maintenance); iPod (maintenance)
Omitted: ABS-CBN; Operation Linebacker; Moscow theater hostage crisis
Included: Battle for Henderson Field (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Hungarian Revolution of 1956 (10th appearance, last in 2014; 60th anniversary); 1983 Beirut barracks bombings (10th appearance, last in 2013)
Repeats: Irish Rebellion of 1641 (3rd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Malet coup of 1812 (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 05:36, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: ABS-CBN (maintenance); Operation Linebacker (maintenance)
Omitted: Hungary (ineligible—maintenance); Irish Rebellion of 1641 (ineligible—maintenance); Malet coup of 1812 (ineligible—maintenance); 1983 Beirut barracks bombings
Included: National Women's Rights Convention (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Moscow theater hostage crisis (7th appearance, last in 2015); Anne Oldfield (first appearance); Stefano Franscini (first appearance); Annabel Breuer (first appearance; 25th birthday)
Repeats: Battle for Henderson Field (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total; 75th anniversary); Hungarian Revolution of 1956 (2nd consecutive appearance, 11 total)

—howcheng {chat} 03:19, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes[edit]

Omitted: Battle for Henderson Field (ineligible—TFA for 2018); Hungarian Revolution of 1956; Anne Oldfield; Stefano Franscini; Annabel Breuer
Included: Irish Rebellion of 1641 (5th appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); Jeannette Piccard (first appearance); 1983 Beirut barracks bombings (11th appearance, last in 2016); Sweyn III of Denmark (first appearance); Ludwig Leichhardt (first appearance); Soong Mei-ling (first appearance)
Repeats: National Women's Rights Convention; (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Moscow theater hostage crisis (2nd consecutive appearance, 8 total)

—howcheng {chat} 20:47, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes[edit]

Omitted: Jeannette Piccard; 1983 Beirut barracks bombings; Moscow theater hostage crisis; Sweyn III of Denmark; Ludwig Leichhardt; Soong Mei-ling
Included: Battle for Henderson Field (4th appearance, last in 2017; rescued from Ineligible); Hungarian Revolution of 1956 (12th appearance, last in 2017); Miracle Valley shootout (first appearance); John Heisman (first appearance; 150th birthday); Douglas Jardine (first appearance); Daniel Wildenstein (2nd appearance, last in 2017; also appears on September 11, his birthday)
Repeats: Irish Rebellion of 1641 (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total); National Women's Rights Convention (3rd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:04, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: 1983 Beirut barracks bombings (maintenance); Anne Oldfield (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Josh Kirby
Omitted: Miracle Valley shootout (ineligible—maintenance); John Heisman; Daniel Wildenstein
Included: Fred Shero (first appearance); Stella Obasanjo (first appearance)
Repeats: Irish Rebellion of 1641 (3rd consecutive appearance, 7 total); National Women's Rights Convention (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total); Hungarian Revolution of 1956 (2nd consecutive appearance, 13 total); Douglas Jardine (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

Due to time constraints, most everything is repeating this year. —howcheng {chat} 18:59, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021[edit]

@Howcheng:The date of Mawlid would seem to be the same for Sunni & mainstream Shia muslims according to Mawlid#Date. Islamic calendar#notable dates on the other hand gives "12 Rabi al-Awwal: Mawlid or Birth of the Prophet for Sunnis. 17 Rabi al-Awwal: Mawlid for Shias." and Islamic_holidays#Dates_of_holidays_and_other_days_of_note makes no such distinction. I think however that this week it is observed only in Twelver Shi’ism. Sparafucil (talk) 04:36, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sparafucil: I'm not sure what change you need here. I will be offline for most of tomorrow, so please bring it up at WP:ERRORS for a faster response. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 07:02, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes[edit]

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Operation Linebacker
Omitted: Irish Rebellion of 1641; Battle for Henderson Field; Douglas Jardine; Fred Shero; Stella Obasanjo
Included: Auld Alliance (first appearance); Alberto Santos-Dumont/Santos-Dumont 14-bis (Santos-Dumont: 2nd appearance, last in 2007; 14-bis: first appearance; resued from Ineligible); Jeannette Piccard (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Johan Gabriel Ståhlberg (first appearance); Emma Vyssotsky (first appearance); Josh Kirby (first appearance; 20th anniversary)
Repeats: National Women's Rights Convention (5th consecutive appearance, 7 total); Hungarian Revolution of 1956 (3rd consecutive appearance, 14 total)

—howcheng {chat} 02:48, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jeannette Piccard[edit]

I don't think that hot-air balloons fly that high. The article mentions hydrogen as the lift gas. Danimal57 (talk) 10:33, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey I agree. Please see http://www.pilotspost.co.za/arn0001845 and https://www.britannica.com/technology/balloon-flight/Balloons-reach-the-stratosphere @Howcheng: Aerohydro (talk) 23:17, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]