Wikipedia:Userboxes/Userbox location straw poll

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The purpose of this straw poll

The purpose of this straw poll is to address userbox namespace location and related issues.

It intentionally does not address issues related to userboxes and categories. A separate straw poll can cover that topic.

The straw poll starts with a “userbox pegboard.” Think of this as a way to “pin” your username to a choice of where (in what namespace) a certain type of userbox should go. Comments also are welcome.

The next section includes a set of assertions about related userbox location issues.You can show your strong / weak / simple support or opposition, with or without comment, for each statement.

Userbox pegboard[edit]

How to use the userbox pegboard: Place your username (see examples – using three tildes "#~~~") in any cell for which you think it is the best match for a userbox type and namespacecombination.Types in ALL CAPS represent groups of types. Add any comments under the applicable group or on the talk page.

UBX type	Template namespace	Wikipedia namespace	User namespace
Examples: Edit to see how to show usernames.	User 1 User 2 User 3	User 4 User 5 User 6	User 7 User 8 User 9

Languages[edit]

UBX type	Template namespace	Wikipedia namespace	User namespace
LANGUAGES	— getcrunk what?! Meyer Ssbohio Bibliomaniac15 Luna Santin Morlark Lady Aleena SynergeticMaggot NThurston HighInBC BlueSquadronRaven Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] Ou tis Shimmera (talk · contribs) Shardsofmetal ^{[ Talk \| Contribs ]} WikiSlasher Leon2323 Kat, Queen of Typos Ned Scott — MrDolomite • Talk		User:Angr Bisco User:Lordmetroid User:ilikepie2221
Babel: For multilingual communication.	Ashibaka tock —Mi r a CG Philbert^2.71828 Charon X/talk NatusRoma \| Talk – Gurch GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) Herostratus —Mets501 (talk) —Andux^␅ Donald Albury^(Talk) Ssbohio Greg the White Falcon — QuantumEleven CameoAppearance Luna Santin Pruneau^talk Lady Aleena SynergeticMaggot NThurston -Royalguard11^Talk^{My Desk} BlueSquadronRaven Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ T-rex Shimmera (talk · contribs) Shardsofmetal ^{[ Talk \| Contribs ]} WikiSlasher — MrDolomite • Talk	Rfrisbie^talk —Mi r a -digital_m e^{(TalkˑContribs)} GRBerry → JARED ^(t) Stifle (talk) —Nightst a llion (?) Leon2323 Kat, Queen of Typos User:Lordmetroid	Bisco
Grammar: For preferences on grammatical and dialect-related controversies.	Stifle (talk) Ssbohio Greg the White Falcon CameoAppearance Pruneau^talk Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ (though I've interpreted this as "writing style preferences") Shardsofmetal ^{[ Talk \| Contribs ]} WikiSlasher Tuvok^^{Talk\|Desk\|Contribs}		Ashibaka tock Rfrisbie^talk —Mi r a -digital_m e^{(TalkˑContribs)} GRBerry → JARED ^(t) Philbert^2.71828 Charon X/talk NatusRoma \| Talk – Gurch —Nightst a llion (?) GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) Herostratus —Mets501 (talk) Donald Albury^(Talk) — QuantumEleven Luna Santin SynergeticMaggot -Royalguard11^Talk^{My Desk} BlueSquadronRaven T-rex Shimmera (talk · contribs) Kat, Queen of Typos Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Non-ISO Languages: For non-ISO languages.	Stifle (talk) —Andux^␅ Ssbohio Greg the White Falcon CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ Shardsofmetal ^{[ Talk \| Contribs ]} WikiSlasher Leon2323		Rfrisbie^talk —Mi r a Ashibaka tock -digital_m e^{(TalkˑContribs)} → JARED ^(t) Philbert^2.71828 Charon X/talk – Gurch —Nightst a llion (?) GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) Herostratus —Mets501 (talk) Donald Albury^(Talk) — QuantumEleven Luna Santin Pruneau^talk SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco User:ilikepie2221 — MrDolomite • Talk
Programming: For programming languages.	Stifle (talk) Herostratus —Andux^␅ Ssbohio Greg the White Falcon Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ T-rex Shardsofmetal ^{[ Talk \| Contribs ]} WikiSlasher Leon223 Tuvok^^{Talk\|Desk\|Contribs} Deathanatos		Ashibaka tock Rfrisbie^talk —Mi r a -digital_m e^{(TalkˑContribs)} GRBerry → JARED ^(t) Philbert^2.71828 Charon X/talk – Gurch —Nightst a llion (?) GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) —Mets501 (talk) Donald Albury^(Talk) — QuantumEleven CameoAppearance Luna Santin Pruneau^talk SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco User:ilikepie2221 — MrDolomite • Talk

Comments:

Keep Template namespace clear of all userboxes. In Wikipedia namespace only if related pages exist. Everything else in User namespace. Rfrisbie^talk 02:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Babel has an encyclopedic purpose, the others in this section do not.GRBerry 03:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe this poll should list Babel userboxes separately, so people can vote on grammar, non-iso, and programming boxes all at once. Philbert^2.71828 22:02, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Explaining my vote on the Babel boxes - I think what I had in mind was simply this: Babel templates would be acceptable to me in either Wikipedia or Template namespace. Thinking again, I suppose Template space would be better, if only because the are already located there, but if someone would be willing to do the work, I would have no problem seeing them somehow moved over to Wikipedia space (possibly under/as subpages of Wikipedia:Babel). —Mi r a 04:33, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There are no problems having userboxes in template namespace, the problems are caused by people unhappy that userboxes are in template namespace and seeking to impose their own solution against consensus. Stifle (talk)
Consensus is important.Process is important.Both have been woefully ignored by the userbox deletionists.Where userboxes are housed is a smokescreen issue.Those who want userboxes gone will continue to delete them, regardless of process, consensus, or anything else.That's been demonstrated in TfD and elsewhere.As long as the boxes don't appear in Main space, their existence in Template space is a non-issue, important only as a proxy for the goal of deleting userboxes. --Ssbohio 17:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't particularly care one way or the other, as long as they all stay and are easy to copy.They could all be moved to userspace for all I care. Crazyswordsman 03:40, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Crazyswordsman, but I also see no real problem with the userboxes remaining in template space; however, I think that WP:BOX should continue to function as a repository for userboxes regardless of where they reside. (I've heard some rumours that it won't serve this function if the German solution is used for all userboxen.)CameoAppearance 08:19, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Babel boxes are no different from any other userbox. If other userboxes go to userspace, Babel boxes should go there too. User:Angr 15:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's not as if we're going to run out of template space. The only boxes going into userspace should be those which are blatantly unencyclopedic and have nothing whatsoever to do with running an encyclopedia. Anything remotely related to our ends may as well stay in template space; it's not as if MediaWiki suddenly shuts down if you have too many templates in templatespace. If we're gonna have templates all over the place, why even bother having a template namespace? Luna Santin 04:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Angr that babel userboxes should be treated the same as any other userbox. However, I believe that every userbox should be allowed to exist in the template namespace. I don't understand the point of the counter argument, other than the fact that userboxes are usually unreleated to the encyclopedia. It seems to me that the argument that userboxes should not be placed in the template namespace is an opinion. Why is it so bad to let userboxes in the template namespace...they are templates. I also beleive that all userboxes help to represent the community. We should all support the representation of the community. After all, where would Wikipedia be without the community? Shardsofmetal ^{[ Talk | Contribs ]} 01:25, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think even Babel userboxes should be in userspace as long as there is a directory like Wikipedia:Userboxes#Gallery which list all userboxes in themes. --Bisco 17:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Life, status and situation[edit]

UBX type	Template namespace	User namespace
LIFE, STATUS AND SITUATION	Stifle (talk) Th e Gerg Meyer Ssbohio Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] Ou tis WikiSlasher	Rfrisbie^talk —Mi r a -digital_m e^{(TalkˑContribs)} Philbert^2.71828 Charon X/talk NatusRoma \| Talk – Gurch GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) —Mets501 (talk) — getcrunk what?! Donald Albury^(Talk) User:Angr Pruneau^talk Morlark (Everything but Education) BlueSquadronRaven 1ne^{Talk to me} T-rex Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Education: For educational qualifications, schools, colleges and universities, by region.	GRBerry (degrees earned by field only, like B.Sc-Math) Stifle (talk) Herostratus Anthony.bradbury Ssbohio — QuantumEleven CameoAppearance Pruneau^talk Morlark Lady Aleena NThurston -Royalguard11^Talk^{My Desk} BlueSquadronRaven Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	GRBerry (everything else) —Mets501 (talk) 1ne^{Talk to me} Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Health: For physical and mental health.	Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	GRBerry CG Herostratus — QuantumEleven Pruneau^talk -Royalguard11^Talk^{My Desk} BlueSquadronRaven 1ne^{Talk to me} Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Life: For age, ancestry, family and profession.	GRBerry (professional expertise only) Stifle (talk) Herostratus Anthony.bradbury Ssbohio CameoAppearance Pruneau^talk (profession only) Lady Aleena NThurston -Royalguard11^Talk^{My Desk} Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ (especially profession) WikiSlasher	GRBerry (everything else) —Mets501 (talk) — QuantumEleven Pruneau^talk (everything but profession) BlueSquadronRaven 1ne^{Talk to me} Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Location: For country and state of origin, and regional organizations.	Stifle (talk) Herostratus Ssbohio CameoAppearance (for country, region, etc - but not for regional organizations) Pruneau^talk Lady Aleena NThurston -Royalguard11^Talk^{My Desk} Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	GRBerry —Mets501 (talk) — QuantumEleven BlueSquadronRaven 1ne^{Talk to me} Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Personality: For personalities according to "personality type" systems/tests.	Ssbohio Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] WikiSlasher	GRBerry CG Stifle (talk) Herostratus —Mets501 (talk) — QuantumEleven CameoAppearance Pruneau^talk -Royalguard11^Talk^{My Desk} BlueSquadronRaven —AySz88 \^-^ 1ne^{Talk to me} Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Time: For time zone and other temporal userboxes.	Stifle (talk) Herostratus —Mets501 (talk) Ssbohio CameoAppearance Pruneau^talk Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	GRBerry CG — QuantumEleven -Royalguard11^Talk^{My Desk} BlueSquadronRaven 1ne^{Talk to me} Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Zodiac: For zodiac symbol userboxes.	Stifle (talk) Herostratus Ssbohio Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] WikiSlasher	GRBerry CG —Mets501 (talk) — QuantumEleven CameoAppearance Pruneau^talk -Royalguard11^Talk^{My Desk} BlueSquadronRaven —AySz88 \^-^ 1ne^{Talk to me} Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk

Comments:

Everything except educational qualifications and professional expertise to userspace.Those can be template space as the contribute to editing.GRBerry 03:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I like GRBerry's idea in theory, but there are a lot of possible degrees, with new majors appearing now and then, and lots of things could be considered professional experience. The only way to deal with every possibility might be to have a blank box, like "This user has a ____ degree in ____." Philbert^2.71828 22:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Consensus is important.Process is important.Both have been woefully ignored by the userbox deletionists.Where userboxes are housed is a smokescreen issue.Those who want userboxes gone will continue to delete them, regardless of process, consensus, or anything else.That's been demonstrated in TfD and elsewhere.As long as the boxes don't appear in Main space, their existence in Template space is a non-issue, important only as a proxy for the goal of deleting userboxes. --Ssbohio 17:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Everything except zodiac signs and personality test results can stay in template space; I find both to be uninformative, uninteresting and unhelpful. CameoAppearance 08:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Politics, opinions and beliefs[edit]

UBX type	Template namespace	User namespace
POLITICS, OPINIONS AND BELIEFS	Meyer Ssbohio Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] Ou tis WikiSlasher	Rfrisbie^talk —Mi r a -digital_m e^{(TalkˑContribs)} GRBerry Philbert^2.71828 Charon X/talk NatusRoma \| Talk – Gurch GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) —Mets501 (talk) — getcrunk what?! Donald Albury^(Talk) Greg the White Falcon — QuantumEleven User:Angr Pruneau^talk SynergeticMaggot -Royalguard11^Talk^{My Desk} BlueSquadronRaven T-rex Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Beliefs: For ethical and political ideologies.	Stifle (talk) Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	Herostratus —Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Political parties: For political party userboxes.	Ssbohio Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	Herostratus —Mets501 (talk) CameoAppearance SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Religion: For religious and spiritual views.	Stifle (talk) Anthony.bradbury Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	Herostratus —Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Regional politics: For local and regional political views.	Ssbohio Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] WikiSlasher	Stifle (talk) Herostratus —Mets501 (talk) CameoAppearance SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven —AySz88 \^-^ Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Sexuality: For sexual orientation, gender, status and sexual issues.	Stifle (talk) Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher Lino Mastrodomenico	Herostratus —Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk

Comments:

The problem is, if you allow "Template:User gay" in template namespace, you have to allow trollbait like "Template:User coprophiliac", etc. To have one without the other would require constant judgement calls. This applies to politics, religion, etc. also. Herostratus 14:59, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Consensus is important.Process is important.Both have been woefully ignored by the userbox deletionists.Where userboxes are housed is a smokescreen issue.Those who want userboxes gone will continue to delete them, regardless of process, consensus, or anything else.That's been demonstrated in TfD and elsewhere.As long as the boxes don't appear in Main space, their existence in Template space is a non-issue, important only as a proxy for the goal of deleting userboxes. --Ssbohio 17:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
All the template spaces are deleted anyways. -Royalguard11^Talk^{My Desk} 01:27, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interests and tastes[edit]

UBX type	Template namespace	User namespace
INTERESTS AND TASTES	Meyer Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] Ou tis WikiSlasher	Rfrisbie^talk —Mi r a -digital_m e^{(TalkˑContribs)} GRBerry Philbert^2.71828 Charon X/talk NatusRoma \| Talk – Gurch Th e Gerg GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) —Mets501 (talk) — getcrunk what?! Donald Albury^(Talk) Greg the White Falcon — QuantumEleven User:Angr Pruneau^talk SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven T-rex Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Automotive: For automotive interests.	Herostratus Ssbohio CameoAppearance (for everything except the car the user in question drives) Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	—Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Books: For favourite books and graphic novels.	Herostratus Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	—Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Colours: For favourite colours.	Herostratus Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] WikiSlasher	—Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk —AySz88 \^-^ Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Computing: For computing, such as blogs, websites, browsers and hardware.	Herostratus Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	—Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Food: For favourite foods, beverages, and eating habits.	Herostratus Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] WikiSlasher	—Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk (See comment) —AySz88 \^-^ Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Games For favourite board, card and video games.	Herostratus Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	—Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Interests: For universal human interests and hobbies.	Ssbohio Herostratus CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	—Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Mathematics: For statistics, measurement systems, and other areas in mathematics.	Herostratus Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk (For metric/imperial/this user is a mathimatician) —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	—Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk (everything else) Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Media: For favourite radio, television, movies and newspapers.	Herostratus Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	—Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Music: For musical taste and interests.	Herostratus Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	—Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Pets: For pets and other animals.	Herostratus Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	—Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk (Already deleted) Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Sports: For favourite sports.	Herostratus Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	—Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk

Comments:

These are harmless. That which is harmless should be allowed in template namespace. Herostratus 15:02, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Consensus is important.Process is important.Both have been woefully ignored by the userbox deletionists.Where userboxes are housed is a smokescreen issue.Those who want userboxes gone will continue to delete them, regardless of process, consensus, or anything else.That's been demonstrated in TfD and elsewhere.As long as the boxes don't appear in Main space, their existence in Template space is a non-issue, important only as a proxy for the goal of deleting userboxes. --Ssbohio 17:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Right. We don't need to get rid of a template if it's made clear where it should be used. --Gray Porpoise 02:08, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
These are pointless, insofar as creating an encyclopedia is concerned, and could just as easily be incorporated into the text of a user's page. As such, if a userbox for these topics is truly desired, it should be in userspace. --BlueSquadronRaven 19:05, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have two comments on the food. First, all userboxes about eating habbits/disorders/where you eat should be userfied. Second, all userboxes that say this user eats/drinks this should be deleted. -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk 21:31, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia-related[edit]

UBX type	Template namespace	Wikipedia namespace	User namespace
WIKIPEDIA-RELATED	—Mets501 (talk) Meyer Ssbohio Greg the White Falcon CameoAppearance Luna Santin Lady Aleena SynergeticMaggot NThurston BlueSquadronRaven Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] Ou tis WikiSlasher Ned Scott		User:Angr Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco
Large/Licensing: For large userboxes related to licencing of Wikipedia users' contributions.	Philbert^2.71828 GRBerry GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) —Mets501 (talk) — getcrunk what?! Donald Albury^(Talk) Ssbohio — QuantumEleven CameoAppearance Luna Santin Pruneau^talk Lady Aleena SynergeticMaggot NThurston BlueSquadronRaven Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ T-rex Ned Scott	Rfrisbie^talk —Mi r a Herostratus -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk Shimmera (talk · contribs) — MrDolomite • Talk	Bisco
Wikipedia: For user category, association, editing philosophy and preferences.	Herostratus —Mets501 (talk) — getcrunk what?! Ssbohio — QuantumEleven CameoAppearance Pruneau^talk Lady Aleena SynergeticMaggot NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher Ned Scott	Rfrisbie^talk (only with page) —Mi r a (only with page) GRBerry (admin+ status boxes only, for any Wikimedia project) -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk (for donor/other projects/languages/position)	Rfrisbie^talk Ashibaka tock -digital_m e^{(TalkˑContribs)} —Mi r a GRBerry Charon X/talk NatusRoma \| Talk – Gurch GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) Donald Albury^(Talk) BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk (everything else) T-rex Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
WikiProjects: For userboxes related to WikiProjects.	Philbert^2.71828 NatusRoma \| Talk GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) Herostratus —Mets501 (talk) — getcrunk what?! Donald Albury^(Talk) Ssbohio — QuantumEleven CameoAppearance Luna Santin Lady Aleena SynergeticMaggot NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ Ned Scott	Rfrisbie^talk —Mi r a -digital_m e^{(TalkˑContribs)} GRBerry (One per project) Kaldari Charon X/talk Pruneau^talk BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk T-rex Shimmera (talk · contribs) WikiSlasher — MrDolomite • Talk	Ashibaka tock – Gurch Bisco
Userboxes: For userboxes about userboxes and userbox policy.	Herostratus Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher		Rfrisbie^talk —Mi r a Ashibaka tock -digital_m e^{(TalkˑContribs)} GRBerry Philbert^2.71828 Charon X/talk NatusRoma \| Talk – Gurch GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) —Mets501 (talk) — getcrunk what?! Donald Albury^(Talk) — QuantumEleven Luna Santin Pruneau^talk SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk T-rex Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk

Comments:

"Wikipedia" userboxes should be created in Wikipedia namespace only with a related page, e.g., Wikipedia:Sister projects. Rfrisbie^talk 02:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In Wikipedia space for admin, beauracrat, etc... status on Wikipedia or any other WikiMedia project, plus up to one per WikiProject.GRBerry 03:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I voted for template namespace because, from this page, this namespace is used to duplicate the same content across more than one page. That sounds like the idea behind a userbox to me. Compare that to the Wikipedia:Project namespace, which is for pages about Wikipedia. I think WikiProject userboxes are only indirectly about Wikipedia. But, if someone wants to change the description of the Wikipedia namespace to allow Wikiproject userboxes, that would be fine with me. Philbert^2.71828 22:19, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Consensus is important.Process is important.Both have been woefully ignored by the userbox deletionists.Where userboxes are housed is a smokescreen issue.Those who want userboxes gone will continue to delete them, regardless of process, consensus, or anything else.That's been demonstrated in TfD and elsewhere.As long as the boxes don't appear in Main space, their existence in Template space is a non-issue, important only as a proxy for the goal of deleting userboxes. --Ssbohio 17:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Userboxes specific to a Wikiproject can and should be created as subpages of that Wikiproject, to illustrate its being attached to that project and lessen the appearance of the project being under the control of any one individual. --BlueSquadronRaven 19:10, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Even Wikipedia userboxes should be located in userspace. The corresponding page (if there is one) can use it like a template and/or link to the box. For Licensing: if it's a userbox (used as a mere statement on userpage) it should be located in userspace. If it's a widely used and needed template for licensing it should be proposed to become a licensing template in template space, if there isn't no alternative available. --Bisco 17:39, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Most Wikipedia-related userboxes, such as WikiProject boxes and admin boxes, haven't been an issue. They are prime examples of good user boxes and relate directly to actives on Wikipedia in an appropriate manner. -- Ned Scott 07:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Other userboxes[edit]

UBX type	Template namespace	User namespace
OTHER USERBOXES	Meyer Ssbohio Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] Ou tis WikiSlasher	Rfrisbie^talk —Mi r a -digital_m e^{(TalkˑContribs)} GRBerry Philbert^2.71828 Charon X/talk NatusRoma \| Talk – Gurch GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) —Mets501 (talk) — getcrunk what?! Donald Albury^(Talk) Greg the White Falcon — QuantumEleven User:Angr Pruneau^talk SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk T-rex Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Emoticons: For userboxes representing a current mood.	Herostratus Ssbohio Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	—Mets501 (talk) CameoAppearance SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk User:ilikepie2221
Humor: For humorous or silly userboxes that don't fit elsewhere.	Herostratus Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	—Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk
Seasonal: For seasonal userboxes.	Herostratus Ssbohio CameoAppearance Lady Aleena NThurston Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] —AySz88 \^-^ WikiSlasher	—Mets501 (talk) SynergeticMaggot BlueSquadronRaven Shimmera (talk · contribs) Bisco — MrDolomite • Talk

Comments:

Consensus is important.Process is important.Both have been woefully ignored by the userbox deletionists.Where userboxes are housed is a smokescreen issue.Those who want userboxes gone will continue to delete them, regardless of process, consensus, or anything else.That's been demonstrated in TfD and elsewhere.As long as the boxes don't appear in Main space, their existence in Template space is a non-issue, important only as a proxy for the goal of deleting userboxes. --Ssbohio 17:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It would be nice if people didn't vote more than once for the same thing. -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk 21:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Applicable policies, guidelines and ArbCom rulings[edit]

The policies, guidelines and Arbitration Committee rulings that apply to userboxes should be based on...

Their namespace location[edit]

Support policies, guidelines and Arbitration Committee rulings based on userbox namespace location, sign here with # ~~~~:

Rfrisbie^talk 02:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC): The namespace context of a userbox should determine what policies, guidelines and ArbCom rulings apply.[reply]
—Mi r a 03:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC) agree with Rfrisbie; userboxes located in user space should be treated differently than those in template space, according to the ~~policy~~ guideline at WP:USER.[reply]
- Note. WP:USER is a "guideline." :-) Rfrisbie^talk 03:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Oops, thank you for pointing that out. —Mi r a 03:15, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Some things need to be forbidden in template namespace, while they can be allowed in user namespace. Charon X/talk 10:14, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
– Gurch 15:25, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
TZM^T (de:^T) 17:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
— getcrunk what?! 20:09, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Donald Albury^(Talk) 12:23, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Meyer 04:08, 19 July 2006 (UTC) but I think it's alright to keep most user boxes in template namespace. A user can keep a user box or other template in his own namespace if its expected to be primarily for personal use, in which case different rules should apply to it than to one in template namespace.[reply]
Ssbohio 17:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC) : Userboxes should be subject to policy based on in what context they are used, not where they are stored.Since they are templates, logic dictates that they should be stored in the Template namespace.Since they are used in the User namespace, they should be subject to the same policies as other items used in the User namespace.Fictitious arguments aside, reality is that userboxes never should show up in Main space, and that their storage location is wholly irrelevent.[reply]
NThurston 17:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC) : Agree with Rfrisbie, with Meyer's addendum.[reply]
WikiSlasher 10:38, 16 September 2006 (UTC) Per CharonX.[reply]
Bisco 18:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC) I agree with User:Rfrisbie: alway applying by the context of the namespace. But I disagree with User:Ssbohio. I my opinion that could only cause more trouble. A template used in userspace would fall under two different policies. Then someone must say what policy is to be used first and should overrule the other. But if eg policies for userspace are applied exclusively then why should it be kept in template space at all? (The same goes vice versa). Agree with User:Meyer when they are handled like two different templates. The one in template space and the one in userspace.[reply]

Oppose policies, guidelines and Arbitration Committee rulings based on userbox namespace location, sign here with # ~~~~:

Herostratus 15:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC) Since the statement makes no sence. Userboxes are userboxes, no matter where they are. Feel free to try and put 'bad' stuff on your userpage, but just because WP:USER is a guideline doesn't mean laws and other policies don't apply.[reply]
John Reid 16:08, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
CzechOut 00:21, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

Policy[edit]

Support

ArbCom should always rule on matters based on policy as expressed by community consensus. John Reid 16:08, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

CzechOut 00:22, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

De-regulation[edit]

Support

Strongly SupportWikipdia admin have no business interfering in the self-identification of its users.Userboxes serve a useful function in identifying the possible biases of editors.No definitive link between the userboxes one flies and the egregiousness of one's edits has ever been definitively established.Aside from banning the use of userboxes entirely, there is no way to regulate this issue without it being a form of censorship.If admin are not willing to ban the use of even supposedly uncontroversial tags, like native-speaker, Wikpedia project, and professional tags, then everything must be allowed and fully supported through the use of Wikipedia main space.Wikipedia's best approach to this issue is to ensure that all user boxes live in the same space, and that all users have equal opportunity to upload and link to any user box of their choice within an intuitive heirarchy. Wikipedia admin should spend no time debating the merits of the content of any user box.CzechOut 00:09, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Centralized Wikipedia namespace userbox directories[edit]

Centralized userbox directories should be allowed in Wikipedia namespace...

Only for userboxes created in template and Wikipedia namespace[edit]

Support Centralized userbox directories in Wikipedia namespace only for userboxes created in template and Wikipedia namespace, sign here with # ~~~~:

Rfrisbie^talk 02:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC): "Official" directories only for "official" userboxes.[reply]
Allows people to point to a directory of higher status userboxes with encyclopedic value.GRBerry 03:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Definitively useful, if we keep the number and types of boxes small. Charon X/talk 10:16, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
TZM^T (de:^T) 17:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
— getcrunk what?! 20:09, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Donald Albury^(Talk) 12:25, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Meyer 04:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC) If a template deserves to be "advertised" for common use in a central directory, it should first be in template or wikipedia namespace.[reply]
Ssbohio 17:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC) : For all userbox templates, logic dictates that they should be created in the Template namespace.Therefore, I support having a directory for all userbox templates, since all userbox templates should be stored in Template space.[reply]
Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC) To put the userboxes anywhere else will hardly help, so since they should all be in the template space since they are templates, it is logical that a directory for them should be here.[reply]
-Royalguard11^Talk^Desk Only "official" userboxes should be in a centralized space.
WikiSlasher 10:41, 16 September 2006 (UTC) As long as most userboxes are included in these spaces. Otherwise I'd vote oppose.[reply]
— MrDolomite • Talk 14:44, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Centralized userbox directories in Wikipedia namespace, only for userboxes created in template and Wikipedia namespace, sign here with # ~~~~:

Weak —Mi r a 03:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC) I do not believe that one userbox directory, located at Wikipedia:Userboxes, would be harmful or terribly controversial. However, I also do not think that a Wikipedia space directory is absolutely necessary.[reply]
per MiraLuka. Stifle (talk) 17:57, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Per above. --StuffOfInterest 19:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose Bisco 18:16, 11 October 2006 (UTC) There should be a centralized directory for all userboxes that can but doesn't have to be in wikipedia space. With all userboxes I mean all the templates which are used to make statements etc. on userpages. If some are used for other purposes then they can have a seperate directory.[reply]

Comments:

For all userboxes[edit]

Support Centralized userbox directories in Wikipedia namespace for all userboxes, sign here with # ~~~~:

Weak —Mi r a 03:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC) See above.[reply]
Strong LC@RSDATA 06:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Yes, and keep the actual userboxen themselves in userspace (except for babel and project things. babel should be in templatespace and project things should be in subpages of the project).It doesn't make GUS a half measure, since all the content is in userspace, but nobody would be able to find a directory in userspace. --Rory096 06:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Rory096 – Gurch 15:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support per Rory096. —Andux^␅ 19:59, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support. It will keep down the duplication of effort if one single directory structure is maintained.This is even more so with the boxes spread across user space. --StuffOfInterest 19:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Rory, except for the comment on userbox location. Stifle (talk) 16:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ssbohio 17:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC) : For all userbox templates, logic dictates that they should be created in the Template namespace.Therefore, I support having a directory for all userbox templates, since all userbox templates should be stored in Template space.[reply]
Strong Support per StuffOfInterest, and also because I see no reason why Wikipedia:Userboxes shouldn't list userboxen in userspace or the Wikipedia namespace. CameoAppearance 09:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly Support because it's a ridiculous waste of time to move them from this centralized, intuitive location.If Wikipedia is going to continue to allow the use of userboxes at all then they should be in the least confusing, most central area possible. This is not an issue that has shades of grey.Either they're allowed or they're not.Shunting them off to user space will only worsen the problem the "German solution" is ostensibly meant to solve.If we go "all-in" with this "sweep them under the user space rug" approach, we'll only see more and more "objectionable" user boxes.Far better to support self-identification fully (i.e. in main space) and let the chips fall where they may.Censorship is a worse fate than any perceived lack of neutrality. Besides, I've yet to see any proof that there is a correlation between the userboxes one chooses to display and the egregiousness of one's edits. It would be interesting, and revelatory, to study the userboxes flown on the user pages of those who have been banned to see if there is any relationship whatsoever between the two phenomena.I doubt there is much of one.Trolls don't bother with elaborate user pages.So why not believe in the good intent of most users and leave them where they are?CzechOut 00:01, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
--Bisco 18:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC) It would be good but doesn't have to be in wikipedia space.[reply]

Oppose Centralized userbox directories in Wikipedia namespace, for all userboxes, sign here with # ~~~~:

Rfrisbie^talk 02:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC): Too divisive.[reply]
Makes WP:GUS a half measure.GRBerry 03:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Some might see this as an "endorsement" of userboxes one frequent point of dispute. And GRBerry has a good point too. Charon X/talk 10:19, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
— getcrunk what?! 20:09, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Donald Albury^(Talk) 12:27, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Meyer 04:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC) Templates in user namespace should be treated as private, to the extent that anything on WP is treated as private. If the user wants to encourage others to use his template, he should move it to template or wikipedia namespace.[reply]
Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC) GUS should have been deleted a long time ago anyway.[reply]
-Royalguard11^Talk^Desk Can't have the boxes in userspace seeming to be "official". That's what we're trying to get away from.
— MrDolomite • Talk 14:45, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

On July 8, 2006, Jimbo proposed for deletion Wikipedia:Userboxes/Beliefs with a prod reason of "per the emerging consensus that the German solution is best".See [1] GRBerry 02:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine with me.To help facilitate the migration of wayward userboxes to userspace for this and any other group of userboxes, I volunteer the directories at User:Rfrisbie/Userboxes, such as User:Rfrisbie/Userboxes/Beliefs, as a means for keeping track of them.I also volunteer User:Rfrisbie/Userbox as an archive location for userbox subpages.My basic stipulation is that you follow my request posted on each directory page.
You are welcome to edit this User:Rfrisbie/Userboxes directory page, as long as you honor all applicable policies and guidelines. It is recommended this directory be updated in one of three basic ways:
If you move a userbox linked here to userspace, and then bypass redirects with a tool such as AWB, this page will be updated as part of that process.

If you copy-and-paste a userbox linked here to userspace, please update the links here to reflect the userspace location.

If you create a new userbox, feel free to add it to a directory.
Rfrisbie^talk 03:42, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Although the "user box problem" and the German solution have some exalted promoters, I can't see where the consensus has formed that user boxes are indeed a problem for WP or that WP:GUS will improve the situation. -- Meyer 04:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for stepping up, Rfrisbie.However, what protection will userboxes in userspace have against deletionist sentiments?What protection would a userbox have if you yourself opposed it?In Template space, userboxes are protected from arbitrary deletion by process.Since process is important, I have to stay with my determination the Template space is the necessary & proper place for shared userbox templates. --Ssbohio 17:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Ssbohio.

IMHO, the question of protection, as I understand you to pose it, is independent of location, because your concern is about deletionists who ignore process.They can ignore process anywhere. Since I'm not an admin, I can't delete a userpage.Some admin would have to agree.As far as editing goes, anyone can edit any (unprotected) userpage, so all the rules of editing apply here too. See this Sexuality directorymove [2] for a recent example of an administrator restoring a deletionist's attempt to eliminate an entire class of userbox listings out of process. To me, the "simple" answer is for admins to step up like Xaosflux and Xoloz (User:Xoloz/UBX/User Christian) have to stand in the way of rogue admin workplace bullying. Rfrisbie^talk 19:02, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Centralized User namespace userbox directories[edit]

Centralized userbox directories should be allowed in User namespace...

Only for userboxes created there[edit]

Support Centralized userbox directories in User namespace only for userboxes created there, sign here with # ~~~~:

Oppose Centralized userbox directories in User namespace, only for userboxes created there, sign here with # ~~~~:

Rfrisbie^talk 02:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC): Too restrictive.[reply]
—Mi r a 03:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC) Agree with Rfrisbie here.[reply]
Charon X/talk 10:20, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
TZM^T (de:^T) 17:10, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Meyer 04:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC) Users should be free to keep most anything they want in their own namespace within reason.[reply]
Ssbohio 17:57, 19 July 2006 (UTC) : User namespace is not the place for shared community resources, like templates.Userbox templates, and their associated directories, should be kept as they were, in Template space & Wikipedia space, respectively.[reply]
WikiSlasher 10:46, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Bisco 18:26, 11 October 2006 (UTC) There should be a directory for all userboxes with the same kind of usage on userpages, even if they are located in different namespaces.[reply]

Comments:

For all userboxes[edit]

Support Centralized userbox directories in User namespace for all userboxes, sign here with # ~~~~:

Rfrisbie^talk 02:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC): Allowing "official" and "unofficial" userboxes together in User namespace centralized userbox directories allows the reader to see the differences among the types.It also optimizes organizational efficiency of User namespace directories.[reply]
—Mi r a 03:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC) Once again, I agree.[reply]
Agree, but it should highlight that those boxes allowed outside User space are of more value to the project. GRBerry 03:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support mainly because there's no point modifying the userspace policy just to prohibit this – Gurch 15:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Meyer 04:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC) Users should be free to keep most anything they want in their own namespace within reason.[reply]
WikiSlasher 10:46, 16 September 2006 (UTC) per above[reply]
Bisco 18:44, 11 October 2006 (UTC) Agree with User:Rfrisbie and User:Gurch. I think it could be on a usersubpage or better a specially created user. I think there will be users maintaining the directory voluntarily, either way.[reply]

Oppose Centralized userbox directories in User namespace, for all userboxes, sign here with # ~~~~:

Oppose, if the directory is created as a "special" user, e.g. User Box or User Userbox. Gives us a single point of failure. If some editor in good standing is willing to do that in his own namespace, I'll Support instead. Charon X/talk 10:23, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, if you've created a userbox then someone else could claim it, then it would be like a stolen idea. Pronoun 17:45, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I thought if you publish it on wikipedia, you release it "to be stolen". --Bisco 18:44, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ssbohio 17:57, 19 July 2006 (UTC) : User namespace is not the place for shared community resources, like templates.Userbox templates, and their associated directories, should be kept as they were, in Template space & Wikipedia space, respectively.[reply]
Strong Oppose as per Ssbohio. CameoAppearance 09:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Violently Oppose Moving them to user namespaces does absolutely nothing in pratical terms, EXCEPT make it more confusing.There is very little wrong with the current method of using the template space for the exact purpose for which it was created - templates.The Template:User yyy taxonomy is simple, clean and works to effectively create a "User area" within the template space.I fail entirely to see how this is any different in practice from having a "User area" that is only a subpage of user pages.The obvious solution is the simplest one - declare the Template:User yyy area to be a "User area."No messy moves.No long and unwieldly userbox names, etc.--NThurston 14:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Kill them all! Ian¹³ /t 11:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly oppose because it's a ridiculous waste of time.Whether Wikipedia allows userboxes to be derived from main space or user space is irrelevant.If Wikipedia is going to continue to allow the use of userboxes at all then they should be in the least confusing, most central area possible. This is not an issue that has shades of grey.Either they're allowed or they're not.Shunting them off to user space will only worsen the problem the "German solution" is ostensibly meant to solve.If we go "all-in" with this "sweep them under the user space rug" approach, we'll only see more and more "objectionable" user boxes.Far better to support self-identification fully (i.e. in main space) and let the chips fall where they may.Censorship is a worse fate than any perceived lack of neutrality. Besides, I've yet to see any proof that there is a correlation between the userboxes one chooses to display and the egregiousness of one's edits. It would be interesting, and revelatory, to study the userboxes flown on the user pages of those who have been banned to see if there is any relationship whatsoever between the two phenomena.I doubt there is much of one.Trolls don't bother with elaborate user pages.CzechOut 23:54, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

See User:GRBerry/Userbox migration for a centralized userbox directory in User namespace, and User:UBX/Userboxes/General Nav for a centralized userbox template in User namespace. Rfrisbie^talk 02:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Note that User:GRBerry/Userbox migration is a temporary solution, and the input here will help determine whether or where it is kept.And if you give feedback about form, layout, etc... we'll promise to read it, and may even implement it. GRBerry 03:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That applies to User:UBX/Userboxes/General Nav as well. :) —Mi r a 03:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think having a centralized directory could bring trouble unless the directory is kinda "homegrown" i.e. as a subpage of a good user, who then may of course say "edit it, if you want". Creating special users for that kinda invites trouble. Charon X/talk 10:27, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
— getcrunk what?! 20:09, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough compromise. Crazyswordsman 03:42, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've suggested this elsewhere before, but, perhaps the best place for a new central directory of userboxes would be in subpages of Wikiproject:Userboxes. --BlueSquadronRaven 08:33, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blanket comments[edit]

Per Wikipedia:Userbox policy:

1. UBX are to be created in Template: namespace or User: namespace only. If created in Template: namespace the UBX must begin with "User " (for example, Template:User Someubxname). Only UBX created in Template: namespace are to be indexed at Wikipedia:Userboxes.Those created in User: namespace should not be displayed there. These three locations are the only places that UBX may be displayed.

2. UBX created in Template: namespace must be 238 pixels in width and conform loosely to the standards of Template:Userbox.

Note that the only difference between UBX permissible in template space and those permissible in user space is form, not content. The categories listed on this page are irrelevant. If content is acceptable anywhere in this project, it is acceptable in template space; if we don't want it there, we don't want it anywhere. Namespacing UBX solves nothing.

UBX are never permitted in Wikipedia namespace. They are permitted to be displayed only on the template pages themselves, user pages, and Wikipedia:Userboxes subpages. Naturally, any user may create a userspace directory of UBX; see:

13. Each user is free to place any number of UBX on his or her own user page or subpage.

This is all according to the current policy proposal. If you disagree, edit the policy.

For the purposes of this poll, I object to any attempt to circumvent the process of policy formation. This comment should be counted in every section as a "vote" upholding the standard set at Wikipedia:Userbox policy. John Reid 16:04, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]