Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Dooyar

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User:Dooyar

Suspected sockpuppeteer

Dooyar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

Onittles (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

164.67.44.73 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

76.81.222.92 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

209.78.98.27 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

76.81.204.238 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

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Report submission by

Pinkadelica 11:14, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Wildhartlivie 11:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Evidence

All of the user's edits are basically done on the same topics or biographies:

• Lenny Bruce
• Dorothy Kilgallen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pinkadelica (talk • contribs) 11:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
• Karyn Kupcinet
• New Beverly Cinema
• John Stamos
• Gilda Radner
• Seymour Hersh
• Albert Goldman

The user has the same style of editing and has a habit of leaving long, detailed information in the edit summary. 164.67.44.73 is an anonymous IP, but Dooyar has repeatedly left messages on the archived Karyn Kupcinet talk page when responding to the debate that was going on concerning that article, and has admitted using that IP and had to be reminded to sign in and sign their posts. The other anon IP is older and hasn't been used in a while but I figured I'd throw it in for good measure. The IP is from a public place (LA library), but seem to use the same style of bad sourcing and rambling edit summaries.

Comments

Dooyar was blocked twice for being uncivil and violating the 3RR rule. The first time was for 24 hours, the second for 48 (on 11-6-07). Since their last ban, the original user hasn't edited. The anon IP (164...) attempted to delete the archives of the Karyn Kupcinet talk page a few days ago in an attempt to get rid of all the rude things they wrote which got them banned twice and they also reverted the edits another editor and I did (they have since been restored). I suspect Dooyar is creating sock puppets to make it seem like more than one person is supporting their edits and to avoid being banned permanently with their main account. Dooyar got into an edit war with myself and another user on two different pages recently because of poorly sourced info and their refusal to go by Wikipedia guidelines. Basically all of these users use the same tactics when editing and get upset if someone else edits their "hard work" and is forever telling others to leave a page alone.

Comment: The tampering has continued with the return of the use of the User:Dooyar account. After signing on this evening and making edits to talk pages including Karyn Kupcinet and responses to the sockpuppet notice on [1], the tone of the comments left on the Karyn Kupcinet have begun escalating toward incivility again. Within 10 minutes of the last edit from this account, an attempt to remove material once again from the archived Karyn Kupcinet talk page as well as maintenance tags from the Albert Goldman article was made from the 76.81.204.238 IP. Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:46, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Conclusions

You list Onittles as a sock and don't even mention him in your write up. While edit summaries are similar there is little to prove a SOCK vio. The behavior of Dooyar is more of a incivility and disruption case. But neither has edited for several days. So I'm passing for blocking now. Also note that the 76 IPs are from Herndon, VA but the the 164 and 209 IPs are from Los Angeles, so the 4 IPs represent two different people. If incivility and disruption reoccur, report to the appropriate board. If better sock evidence occurs, make a new report here and provide good diffs. — Rlevse • Talk • 03:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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