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25 September 2011[edit]
Suspected sockpuppets


Picker78, having been blocked for edit warring, asserts s/he will "win". Lonesome Warrior is then created and immediately proceeds to pick up where Picker78 left off, and again here, making the same assertions with the same tone of voice as Picker78. Quack quack quack! Scheinwerfermann (talk) 16:07, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

Sock indefinitely blocked, sockmaster blocked 1 week. –MuZemike 16:13, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

25 September 2011[edit]
Suspected sockpuppets


Picker78—blocked earlier today for creating and using his sock Lone Warrior to attempt to sway consensus (see SPI here)—appears now to be trying to circumvent the block by editing as an IP, see here and here (not to mention here). Scheinwerfermann (talk) 21:55, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Clerk note: Hmm... no, I don't think this IP is related. The styles and content are wildly different. Additionally, CU won't connect an IP to accounts. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 23:37, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
12 February 2012[edit]
Suspected sockpuppets


In this edit he blantantly explains who he is. Lost on Belmont (talk) 19:28, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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14 February 2012[edit]
Suspected sockpuppets


this, and this are both Picker's trademark edits to both articles. The IP has also vandalized my user page with this, another trademark of Picker. He's currently blocked for 31 hours for "vandalism." I would request that this IP be blocked, if not permanently, then at least for a long period of time. his rap sheet demonstrates that he's just going to keep coming back as soon as he can. Lost on Belmont (talk) 23:03, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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18 February 2012[edit]
Suspected sockpuppets


He's back again. Joy of all joys... In this edit he reverts the removal of his BS on the masturbation talk page and claims that it is vandalism. (Later he goes on to agree with himself as if he's a different person.) This comes after doing the same thing (minus his agreement) here. Lost on Belmont (talk) 00:25, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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20 February 2012[edit]
Suspected sockpuppets


This account has made the requisite 10 edits to enable autoconfirmed status immediately before making edits to the semi-protected articles on Masturbation and Non-penetrative sex, which resemble changes made or suggested by previous Picker78 sockpuppets. Several Pending (talk) 23:14, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Clerk endorsed - Quacking fairly loudly. Due to creation date in relation to previous socks, please check for sleepers. NativeForeigner Talk 00:24, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Confirmed plus:

Both articles have now been full-protected for 6 months each. --MuZemike 00:44, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

29 May 2013[edit]
Suspected sockpuppets


Similar name, editing history is sparse but mainly to talk pages of the sockmaster and related accounts QuiteUnusual (talk) 07:51, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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13 December 2013[edit]
Suspected sockpuppets

User:Picker78 consistently returns to edit the Prostitution, Masturbation and Non-penetrative sex articles as different IPs and registered editors to add his preferred wording, WP:Edit war over it, and to deny that he is Picker78; if he ever admits to being Picker78, it is when he is caught. For example, see here. He is known to repeatedly add the wording "one's own," or "own," in addition to "can take the form of non-penetrative sex" to the Masturbation article; see here where Picker78 adds "own"; see here and here where he argues for such wording. Here for where he added "own" as User:DragonForce54. And here for diffs with regard to some of his sockpuppetry backstory.

On February 22, 2013, IP 46.190.66.249 added wording to the Masturbation article that is what Picker78 has added before: "one's own" and "can take the form of non-penetrative sex." I alerted editors to this via a WP:Dummy edit. Picker78 showed up with a different IP -- IP 176.58.219.111 -- to repeatedly leave a WP:Dummy edit summary and emphatically deny that he is Picker78. Keep in mind that the IP would have had to have been steadily watching that article to know that I had tipped others off to the fact that he is Picker78, and most IPs do not hang out at articles checking the edit history.

User:PAO 1910 is the latest known registered account that Picker78 previously used (at least if judging the previous sockpuppet investigations regarding him); he made this change to the lead of the Prostitution article on March 17, 2013, arguing "Change of definition. Getting money from your boyfriend or husband does not make you a prostitute."

On November 17, 2013, Promiscuous man‎ made a change to the lead of the Prostitution article, after first showing up to comment in this section of the Prostitution talk page that clearly consists of Picker78's sockpuppet arguments.

Today, November 12, 2013 (in contrast to Wiki-time that currently says it's November 13), Promiscuous man‎ added "can take the form of non-penetrative sex," which is the exact wording that, as noted, Picker78 has added before. Also of note is this edit; like diffs above show, Picker78 likes to contrast mutual masturbation with sexual intercourse. The only reason he didn't add "one's own" this time is because his IP 46.190.66.249 edits stuck; in other words, "one's own" was already there this time. Like last time, I alerted editors to the fact that this is Picker78. And like last time, the editor showed back up to edit war and emphatically deny that he is Picker78. Also take note of how quickly Promiscuous man‎ made an edit after I first accused him of being Picker78. Before he made that edit, his last edit was at 20:59, 12 December 2013; this indicates to me, that like IP 176.58.219.111, Promiscuous man‎ was steadily watching that article. Flyer22 (talk) 01:04, 13 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

MuZemike, the administrator who most often blocked/took action against Picker78, is occasionally active on Wikipedia these days, but was very recently active on Wikipedia; because of that very recent activity, I've pinged MuZemike via WP:Echo with this message in case he has something to state on this Picker78 matter. Flyer22 (talk) 23:29, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just saw this in MuZemike's archive: User talk:MuZemike/Archive 11#Administrative hiatus. So perhaps pinging him was not best. Flyer22 (talk) 23:42, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims. Promiscuous man and his IPs geolocate to Greece, which is where Picker78 appears to be from. Can we get a block on these accounts, please? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:23, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for commenting, Sjones23, with regard to my request. As you may know, the IPs likely won't be blocked because IPs (the ones I listed above) are stale and IP accounts usually aren't blocked for long; if an IP is, it's usually because that IP is a WP:Proxy. And then there's Wikipedia:CheckUser#IP information disclosure. All of these factors are obviously factors that went into the clerk and CheckUser responses in this case. The most we can hope for on blocking with regard to this matter is that Promiscuous man is blocked on the behavioral linkage. Flyer22 (talk) 17:48, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]
  •  Clerk note: All known socks are stale, so at most this could return Possible. Rschen7754 22:24, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Check declined by a checkuser - Due to no other accounts to check against, and going off of the CU logs is not considered appropriate, I am declining this request. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 01:43, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I discussed it with MuZemike. There was tremendously compelling behavioral evidence, and a cursory check found the user to be consistent to picker, if not likely the same user. I've blocked on behavioral grounds, as nothing in the check persuaded me otherwise. NativeForeigner Talk 01:09, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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