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26 March 2012[edit]
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All of these IPs, save the last one, geolocate to the same location. The last one, AFAICT, is different which is a bit strange in itself since it's obviously the same person.
All five of these IPs (there may be more out there) have been posting personal attacks and rants to the talk page of the Western Betrayal article, as well as to several user talk pages. Some examples from each one, although pretty much all their contributions are related to this article: (note the use of all caps to highlight words), [1], (again use of all caps to emphasize), [2] . All the IPs except the first one have been canvassing people they seem to think will come to the talk page and support their cause - some examples [3] [4], [5], [6], [7] (I can provide more examples). All the IPs make charges of "pro-Polish POV" and rant about "Polish editors" (in fact, I think I'm the only Polish editor active on that article, and my participation itself has been fairly limited).
The first IP was blocked by User:SarekOfVulcan on March 8th for disruptive editing, and their edits rev-deleted/oversighted and the other IPs pretty much picked up where Mr. 65.12.179.252 left off.
I think it's pretty trivial that all the IPs are the same person.
The link to User:Leidseplein is obvious to myself since I interacted with the user on the same article back in March and May of 2011. You can check Leidseplein's contribution history (it's not that long) which makes it obvious but here are some example diffs: [8] (note use of all caps to emphasize, note user insisting on referring to me by my RL name, note that the allegations are false and hysterical and along the same lines that the IPs are making), [9] (ditto). In fact, in that last diff I have no idea what the hell he is talking about, it's as if he confused me with some other person. There's plenty more of that. Also, the same user engaged in the same kind of canvassing that the IPs are doing [10] (with similar lack of effect).
The whole situation with User:Leidseplein was frankly weird. He arrived to provide a third opinion on another article (Siege of Kolberg (1807), we had a nice conversation, he then came to my talk page and asked me to copy edit/review an article he had written [11] [12] which I did and which he appeared happy with and then out of nowhere he went completely nutzoid on me on the Western Betrayal article. The strange behavior was noted by others [13]. It all wound up at WP:AE [14]. During the AE more strange things happened; Leidseplein began referring to himself as "we" and then let it slip that he had been editing on WB article after being asked/encouraged off-wiki by (at least) two other, anonymous users ([15] [16]). In the end Leidseplein received a Digwuren warning (which is all I asked for, I didn't even want to have him blocked!) after which Leidseplein announced that he had been harassed and "retired".
Or not. These IPs are obviously him. It's the same article. It's the same "cause" (evil Poles, me as their leader, are controlling the article). It's the same rhetoric. It's the same prose. It's the same style of emphasizing with all caps. It's the same hysterical tone. It's the same false allegations and attacks. And it's the same practice of canvassing.
Interestingly, in this comment [17] the IP makes a cryptic remark that "The newest case against them is in the works and as Usual the EEML alone are providing the evidence against themselves" which suggests that more of the WP:MEATPUPPETRY that Leidseplein originally let slip in the original AE, or some kind of off-wiki coordination, is going on.
At the very least can someone please block all the other IPs that are here just to engage in personal attacks and harassment? VolunteerMarek 00:26, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
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I'm sorry, but checkuser will not generally disclose connections between IPs and named accounts. TNXMan 14:03, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
I do believe that they are all the same person. The problem I have with blocking them is that they edited sequentially. I'd expect another one to start up tomorrow, but other than very short blocks, I'm not sure what would be possible. There is something mildly hinky - 64.134.58.83 is either editing through his office wi-fi, or sat on the street outside hitching a ride on it, and 72.145.253.232 is a dynamic Bell South IP but the other three are static, but 184.36.234.102 seems to have passed on to another person at about 2pm today. If he edits again in the old area, I'll block his ass off. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 17:35, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- Per Elen, though I will leave a note on her talkpage about 184.36.234.102 as it has been used for the past four days, though I didn't look into any other administrative action being required. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 08:33, 1 April 2012 (UTC)