Case Opened on 22:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Case Closed on 23:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

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Initiated by Thin Arthur at 08:24, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Involved parties[edit]

Thin Arthur (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Tezza1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Requests for comment[edit]

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Statement by Thin Arthur[edit]

Tezza1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has over a long period engaged in disruptive editing of Railpage Australia. This has already been the subject of RFC[4], requests for admin assistance[5] and WQA[6]. Tezza1 did not respond to a request for mediation.[7] Tezza1 responded by filing COI complaints against regular editors of the article[8] (User:Doctorjbeam), and has most recently accused myself and another user of being sockpuppets.[9] Others have commented that "tezza was frustated that he could not get his edits to stick, and made the COI accusation in that spirit",[10]This has now extended to accusations against several users on his talk page.[11] The accusations themselves fail to assume good faith.

I consider all of the above actions to demonstrate a history of personal attacks and now harassment as part of his lone campaign against Railpage Australia.

As this user has been dismissive of the dispute resolution process, has a long history of disruptive editing and makes personal accusations against users whom he disagrees with, arbitration is now needed. Disruptive editing has gone on long enough and he is now resorting to harassment. Thin Arthur 08:24, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Additional comment: The vexatious allegation of sockpuppetry is part of this complaint. Earlier actions were merely disruptive but this allegation is harassment. Thin Arthur 10:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Tezza1[edit]

Thin Arthur is a suspected sock puppet of Dbromage and I have raised allegations of his behavour here - Suspected_sock_puppets/Dbromage and Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard. Pending review of my allegations by Administrators and other users, the request for arbitration is premature. Tezza1 10:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As I have stated on the Railpage talk page I have an interest in the subject, but NOT a conflict of interest. Recently Thin Arthur interrupted an in good faith discussion with another editor who admits he has a COI with the Railpage article content. I'm pretty stubborn, when I see something which is not right I dig my heels in. It may be just a small case of COI (who cares?), but if you ignore that then you might as well let everybody else with a COI to edit their articles, then this place will fall down. I'm awaiting the outcome of the sock puppet proceedings, which only in PART relate to the Railpage article. Hopefully then we can move on.Tezza1 12:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that two editors involve in dispute resolution proceedings a cited by Thin Arthur have since either admitted having a WP:COI Johnmc or have had found to have a COI Doctorjbeam. Tezza1 13:43, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Response, Johnmc, if you want to comment can you please keep these separate to mine under a different heading. I have not taken action against you, nor do I intend too. Quoting you from the Railpage talk page you said "let Cesar decide". Can we do that please? Tezza1 20:02, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment for Arbitrators

Wouldn't it be a good idea to hold off arbitration until a determination is made of my sock puppet allegations? Suspected_sock_puppets/Dbromage
Potentially the umpires decision could go one way in this arena, and the opposite way in the other. Regardless of the outcome, I will accept the umpires decision. Regards Tezza1 11:58, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll post here what I posted in my last reply to Thin Arthur at Suspected_sock_puppets/Dbromage.
-Thin Arthur, we only have your word that you are a different person, I still maintain you are either a sock puppet or possibly a role account used by more than one person. If the account is a "role account" then it must be blocked under Wikipedia guidelines. If what you claim is true and you are a close associate (though your own admission) with editor Dbromage how can we not be sure that you have not colluded together on a joint exercise editing article content (Railpage) based upon the evidence of edits made by you and Dbromage on other articles and Afd's.
- I find it hard to believe that a casual observer, or even one who has an intense outside interest in the Railpage discussion forum would know so much about that organizations inner workings.
- Why did you delete my last edit and make the comment in your edit summary "Digital river is just the web hosting company and not the owner" [12]. How do you know this to be the case?
- One has to ask, why editor Dbromage has acknowledged my message about his suspected sock puppetry (by deleting it) and is still yet to respond.
Arbitrators, how can this arbitration even be considered and proceed when it still has not been determined if editor Thin Arthur is a real person and not a sock puppet or role account? Tezza1 11:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC) Final and last comment' Mission accomplished Thin Aurthur, you have turned around a complaint that I made (I believe justified) into an attack against me. Sjakkalle's comments take the cake, making me somehow responsible for all the problems with the Railpage article. Aside from the Railpage article I just hope somehow other editors will sus up to your editing activities. While I respect the independent arbitrators here. This arbitration page has become a joke. That's it for me, I'm gone. Tezza1 03:19, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As I watch these proceedings progress, I feel indifferent to some suggestions of me being banned. What concerns me however, is the behavior of the chief architect of the Railpage article - the editor who uses the Thin Arthur/Dbromage/Null Device names seems to be getting off scott free Suspected_sock_puppets/Dbromage. I would hope this arbitration is impartial and as one administrator requested examine both sides. Hopefully come to a conclusion to my sock puppet allegations that was requested by editors Rlevse and Jreferee. As for the Railpage article I have not engaged in edit warring, indeed my edit history to the article is minimal [13] .
I'm guilty as charged - vocal discussion with editors who have been proved to have a COI on topics such as COI and proper referencing supporting my arguments with by online references on the talk page [14].
By the way, while this arbitration has been going on, the editors with a proven COI are moving back into the Railpage article [15] and [16]. I expect the same sock puppet to follow them Suspected_sock_puppets/Dbromage.
Tonight I will post my analysis of the Railpage Afd number #2 [17] (the vote which made the article notable) on my talk page [18]. I have no real objection to a Railpage article, but according to my analysis the vote was only borderline and was heavily tainted by sock puppetry and voting fraud. Regards. Tezza1 09:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Preliminary decisions[edit]

Arbitrators' opinions on hearing this matter (4/0/0/0)[edit]

Accept to examine behavior of everyone involved. Kirill 13:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Accept. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 16:23, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Accept per Kirill. FloNight ♥♥♥ 21:55, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Accept. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 01:16, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Temporary injunction (none)[edit]

Final decision[edit]

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Principles[edit]

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