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Evidence presented by Tony Sidaway[edit]

Irishpunktom[edit]

Acts as if he was entitled to revert an article three times per day[edit]

Frequently engages in reverting specific editors by name or identity[edit]

Uses his user page for inappropriate purposes[edit]

  • Revision dated 18 June, 2006 hosts the following problematic elements:
    • Polemical statement attributed to Ken Livingstone, Mayor of London
    • "Islam is an "Evil Religion", statement attributed to Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson
    • "Muslims - You are to Get Out of the UK" attributed to Trevor Phillips, head of the UK government's Commission for Racial Equality
    • "Get out of Australia" attributed to Peter Costello, "the Treasurer of Australia,"
    • "Australia will be Muslim in 50 years" attributed to Representative Danna Vale
    • "How much more respect can we pay a religion which is alien to most of us in almost every sense?" attributed to the Daily Mirror newspaper
    • "It's the fundamentalist and extremist mullahs and clerics who rule Muslim communities" attributed to a Daily Mirror journalist
    • Many other polemical statements concerning Islam on this page.
    • The tone suggest that the purpose is to influence the reader's opinion rather than to provide material for Wikipedia articles.

Engaged in personal attack on Karl Meier[edit]

  • 3 June 2006, edit warring with Karl Meier on his (Irishpunktom)'s user page over a reference to provocative anti-Muslim statements, long after Karl had agreed to remove those statements from his own user page.
    • Irishpunktom's evidence is correct. The statements were removed from Karl's page and Karl reluctantly acquiesced.

Karl Meier[edit]

Has used his user page for inappropriate purposes[edit]

  • In February and early March, Karl Meier inserted a provocatively worded anti-muslim link to his user page. Special:Undelete/User:Karl_Meier (now deleted by user request)
    • "Dear Muslims, We are so sorry!!! " linked to a mock apology at www.danishmuhammedcartoons.com
    • The user page also contained a controversial anti-islamic cartoon (not one of the Danish ones)
    • He has accepted that this was unsuitable for Wikipedia.

Has sometimes edit warred[edit]

Abuse of "popups" script on related articles[edit]

This seems to be a growing problem and may not be limited to the Islam-related articles that are the core of this case. It might be a good idea to clarify policy on the use of automated tools, which in use appear to be similar to administrative rollbacks.

Note that these were identifiable because the edit summary was not altered by the editor from the default provided with popups.

Perhaps the real problem here is the lack of a proper, hand-written, edit summary explaining the revert.

Second assertion[edit]

Place argument and diffs which support the second assertion, for example, your second assertion might be "So-and-so makes personal attacks". Here you would show specific edits where So-and-so made personal attacks.

Second assertion[edit]

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Evidence presented by Irishpunktom\talk[edit]

First assertion[edit]

I admit that I have edit warred too much, and will try not to in future. However, I have tried to engage with others on the respective talk pages, and revert when ignored on said talk pages.

Second assertion[edit]

Karl is a revert warrior.

Reverts by Karl[edit]

The following list is not comprehensive, and reflects only the articles I am aware of;

  • At least 18 reverts (Not including vandal reverts) to Ali Sina [18]

Karl did not remove the link in question from his Userpage[edit]

I added the link (to Karl adding the link!) on March 9

Third Assertion[edit]

David is correct, but does not give the whole picture.

Caroline Cox, Baroness Cox[edit]

I created the article on Caroline Cox on March 1[34]. Later that day David, who I believe was Stalking me (how else would he have known about the newly created article?) added some material.[35]. While keeping most of it, I removed a small piece which I believed was only inserted so as to "Poisoin the well". [36]. David reverted me and added more detail in that respect[37]. I again removed the details that appeared to have no context other than to poison the well, and made some other changes [38]. David again reverted, claiming "My version was better". And so, I reverted, informing David that his "version poisons the well, twice". David later re-adds the material, using the Edit summary "expand", where he added other material. Rather than engage in a protracted edit war, I left the material in. None of his reverts was explained on Talk. Then Hale-Byrne arrived, but thats another story. --Irishpunktom\talk 17:28, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    • David, below, says he was not stalking me when he began editing this article on the same day as me. If so, I apologise for the accusation, but, it is honestly what I beleived was occouring. That is an assumption of bad faith on my part, for which I feel I must apologise. --Irishpunktom\talk 13:33, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

David Revert wars on Peter Tatchell[edit]

David has engaged in a protracted edit war with me (I admit guilt here) in the Peter Tatchell page. David describes Peter Tatchell as a "Living Legend".

  • David has reverted me (Only counting me) at least 46 times, either partially or wholely on the Peter tatchell article. [39]

David assumes bad faith[edit]

  • When David reverted Maliki-sis at least four times, he accused them of being an "abusive sock-puppet" (presumeably of Me, though I'll let him state who).[40] The abuse? - Saying Davids version was wrong. This set a bad tone, and led to David being accused of being an Islamophobe by the same user.
  • When on March 25 I reverted Davids POV Revert, I shortened POV Revert to POVerted, and said "rv Davids grossly POVerted entry" [41]. David then accused me on committing a personal attck on him. He then said "Irishpunktom is saying that I am perverted because I am gay." Which is absolute nonsense. I do not believe he would have made such a ridiculous leap of logic where he not to have known I was Muslim. I did not know he was gay at that time, but I probably would have cared just as little as I do now.

David has Abused his Admin powers[edit]

While engaged in a revert war (With me, I admit guilt), David reverted to his preferred version at 15.17, and then {{protected}} the page at 15.18.

David dismisses calls for discussion.[edit]

Evidence presented by Karl Meier[edit]

Irishpunktom is making personal attacks and is incivil towards other editors[edit]

Irishpunktom has made numerous personal attacks against editors that he has disagreed with. His personal attacks has been made both on talkpages and in editsummaries, and he often make accusations of "racism" and "Islamophobia".

Some examples regarding his incivility and personal attacks:

Against me:

Against other editors:

Failed attempts to end Irishpunktoms personal attacks:

  • I have previously filed a personal attack report against him here

Irishpunktom has made offensive remarks against non-Muslims[edit]

While he has frequently accused editors disagreeing with his strong Muslim POV of "racism" and "islamophobia", Irishpunktom has demonstrated that he, himself, has very little respect for anyone that doesn't share his religious believes.

In an article regarding Islam in Denmark he used the degrading label "Kafirs" to address Danish non-Muslims: [42]

Irishpunktom is a revert warrior and frequently violate 3rr[edit]

Irishpunktoms 12 blocks for violations of 3rr speak for themself, and makes it obvious that he doesn't respect Wikipedias policies regarding the 3 revert rule.

His 12 blocks for violations of the 3 revert rule:

Some examples of Irishpunktoms reverting:

Possible Irishpunktom sockpuppet Maliki-sis[edit]

There is more evidence that Maliki-sis might be a sockpuppet of Irishpunktom:

Like Irishpunktom he is sometimes incivil towards other editors and use editsummaries to make personal attacks:

Evidence presented by Cool Cat[edit]

I have deiced to collect evidence after being informed on my talk page that Karl Meier had been revert warring on Armenian Genocide article. I will cite this revert war as evidence.

While irrelevant to this case, Moby Dick (a likely davenbelle sock (see: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Moby_Dick and Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek (Stereotek being Karl Meier's other/ex alias)) is also revert waring with Karl Meier.

Evidence presented by {your user name}[edit]

First assertion[edit]

Place argument and diffs which support your assertion, for example, your first assertion might be "So-and-so engages in edit warring". Here you would list specific edits to specific articles which show So-and-so engaging in edit warring

Second assertion[edit]

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