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FINAL (58/2/0) ending 03:16 23 June 2005 (UTC)

TenOfAllTrades has been editing since last November and shows a good understanding of Wikipedia policy. In disagreements, I've observed him trying to take a diplomatic approach, working to bring different sides together and find consensus. I think these qualities would make him a valuable addition to the pool of administrators. --Michael Snow 03:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:
I accept Michael's nomination, and will endeavour to live up to his praise. --TenOfAllTrades(talk) 04:45, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Support

  1. Michael Snow 03:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  2. Support. → JarlaxleArtemis 03:26, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
  3. Seems like a goody. Grutness...wha? 03:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  4. Emphatic, overwealming support! Ten has been extremely helpful to me personally, and I haven't seen anything anywhere to suggest he wouldn't make a great admin. -- Essjay · talk 04:03, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
  5. Support. Ral315 04:50, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
  6. Support. I have found that opposition by Everyking on the grounds of personal disagreement over admin actions is a good sign that the user is worth considering for adminship. --Carnildo 05:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  7. Support. We need diplomats.--Jondel 05:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  8. Support. Great user. Sjakkalle (Check!) 06:25, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  9. Support Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:40, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  10. Support. Agree w/ Carnildo. Diplomatic and friendly comments like [1] suggest Ten will make a great admin. jni 06:59, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  11. Support would be a perfect admin  Grue  08:37, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  12. Er, what? Ten is not an admin already? My world hath been shattered! Support. Radiant_>|< 08:40, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
  13. I am proud to vote for him. - Darwinek 13:45, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  14. Extremely Strong Support Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 13:45, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
  15. OMFG support. -- BD2412 talk 14:43, 2005 Jun 16 (UTC)
  16. Support - BanyanTree 14:48, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  17. Cool. --JuntungWu 15:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  18. Thought he already was one. --Kbdank71 15:29, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  19. Support. {{cliché}}. Ten's been involved with many aspects of Wikipedia. --Deathphoenix 17:39, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  20. Support. AиDя01DTALKEMAIL 18:37, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
  21. Support, Rje 21:31, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
  22. You mean he's not already? Oh dear. Support. Kelly Martin 21:42, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
  23. Unequivocally. El_C 22:04, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  24. Support. A reasonable person who does excellent work; happy to support. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 00:04, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  25. Support. Good work. --Silversmith Hewwo 00:57, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  26. Support. James F. (talk) 01:01, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  27. Sincerely, I thought he was an admin already. Support. --cesarb 01:42, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  28. Support Of course. Bratschetalk 5 pillars 02:26, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
  29. KingOfAllTrades Ingoolemo talk 02:48, 2005 Jun 17 (UTC)
  30. RickK 06:16, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
  31. Support. My encounters with TenOfAllTrades have been entirely pleasant and productive. Wile E. Heresiarch 06:21, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  32. Support. Have noticed a good approach to resolving disagreements. Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:33, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
  33. Support. the wub (talk) 09:25, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  34. Support. Well deserving of adminship, especially lately. --Unfocused 19:47, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  35. Support, excellent editor and likely to make an excellent admin. --W(t) 20:48, 2005 Jun 17 (UTC)
  36. Support. I noticed him positively before (and liked his sense of humor, too). His handling of the Everyking case El C cites below was appropriate. — Sebastian (talk) 22:01, 2005 Jun 17 (UTC)
  37. Support - I've seen several occasions where Ten has been a calm voice of reason dealing with potentially difficult conflicts. And I thought Ten already was one. FreplySpang (talk) 23:04, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  38. Support - I can't say it better than those who came before. FCYTravis 06:20, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  39. Support Seems like a great user. Spangineer (háblame) 22:33, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
  40. Support Mike H 23:55, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
  41. Support I've had positive encounters with this user in the past, although slightly weak on edit count... I will support for admin.  ALKIVAR™ 00:50, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  42. Support. Consistently helpful and polite editor. Joyous 03:16, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
  43. Support. Nothing but good experiences with this user. --InShaneee 03:44, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  44. Support. Slac speak up! 07:58, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  45. Support. Contributions and Talk: page comments indicate good admin material. Jayjg (talk) 16:34, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  46. Support; Looks good to me. Antandrus (talk) 21:15, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  47. support: Good to see the voting is going well for this reasoned and seasoned candidate. Noting Ten's POV seemed to be opposed to dissent from medical establishment authority, it was refreshing to observe Ten's restraint, rationality, and efforts to make useful contributions thereafter. The ability to grow and overcome one's own bias is a remarkable and unusual quality for defenders of prevailing paradigms, indicating Ten actually practices what he preaches about rationality. Ombudsman 23:53, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  48. Support, Very reasonable, and I specifically recall his diplomacy on the talk page of the Thimerosol article. --MPerel ( talk | contrib) 00:29, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  49. SupportGeni 03:00, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  50. Support Cyberjunkie TALK 05:19, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  51. Support. Fire Star 06:34, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  52. violet/riga (t) 14:01, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  53. Support I've seen nothing but good faith efforts on his part. · Katefan0(scribble) 21:13, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)
  54. Support--Duk 01:31, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  55. Support Ghakko 02:07, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  56. Support. --NormanEinstein 19:25, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
  57. Support Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 23:47, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  58. Support. If El C's example of a "poor experience" with TenofAll is indicative how he handles disputes, he's both an excellent contributor and decent with diplomacy. Shem(talk) 02:30, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. Poor experiences dealing with this user. Everyking 03:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    Could you give me some diffs? — Chameleon 10:06, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    I could. This one. El_C 08:54, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    That's your idea of a "poor experience"? What does it take to have a good one? -R. fiend 03:37, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  2. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 07:31, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • You've voted against nearly every nomination on this page; were you ever planning on gracing us with a reason? --Golbez 07:59, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
    • Because Boothy443 has opposed every adminship request on this page without reason, I have left him a polite comment/suggestion on his user talk page that he either provide reasons for his opposition or withdraw his votes. Flcelloguy Cello today? Give me a note! d.c. al fine? Desk 21:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • For those who are wondering, Boothy443 has stated his position to these requests; they are now in his archive. He has asked that he be left alone about this, and I think Ten would agree with me that we should respect his wishes. -- Essjay · talk 09:40, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
    Please see discussion below at TheoClarke's RfA. Thank you all for your understanding. Flcelloguy Cello today? Give me a note! d.c. al fine? Desk 14:48, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    Actually, since TheoClarke's RfA ends sooner than this one, I think I better copy it here:
    I just wanted to make clear that in no way was I bullying or intimidating Boothy. When I posted my first comment, I was unaware that other people had already asked the same question- I simply did not think that a relatively current issue would be in the archives (stupid me!). However, I have already apologized to Boothy for re-asking this question, and want to make clear that I simply wanted to help Boothy by making him aware of (what we consider) an RfA standard. However, now that I have read his archive page, I completely understand his views. I have always respected everyone's opinions; after all, a plethora of diverse opinions is integral for Wikipedia! Sorry for any misunderstandings I might have caused, and thank you all for your dedication to Wikipedia. I hope this matter is now closed. Flcelloguy Cello today? Give me a note! d.c. al fine? Desk 14:48, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    And for that matter, I would have to agree with you, Essjay. Thank you all for your dedication to Wikipedia! Flcelloguy Cello today? Give me a note! d.c. al fine? Desk 14:48, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    I just wanted to make sure that anyone new to the whole debate who might see this would know the answers were in the archive and wouldn't ask him again. I agree that the subject should now be closed. -- Essjay · Talk 22:24, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Neutral

Comments

  • In general I will not directly address comments made by voters above; everyone is entitled to express an opinion. I will be pleased to answer any questions asked, however. --TenOfAllTrades(talk) 04:45, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I think if you vote one way just because someone you don't like voted the opposite, that shouldn't be considered a legitimate vote. Everyking 14:43, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I would hope that those voters who mentioned Everyking also support my adminship on my own merits. I am inclined to agree that if they voted in my favour solely based on prior disagreements with him, I don't deserve the credit—though I am also loath to engage in mindreading. I encourage my fellow editors to take the high road and judge my candidacy on my actions and statements. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Personally, I'd say the votes should be thrown out either way due to the appalling degree of incivility. Everyking 17:45, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Sorry where? In this RFA? A tally based on the negation of votes does sound intriguing though. El_C 01:17, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Uh....Where else? Everyking 01:45, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Dunno, that's why I'm asking. I can't find it. Can you please provide a diff or citation, or just a hint? Thanks in advance. El_C 03:09, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Votes #6 and 10 above. Everyking 03:23, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Sorry, I somehow managed to overlook that. Thanks. El_C 03:36, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Is it also appropriate, under the same rubric, to disregard votes from voters who vote the same way on every RFA without explanation? (No judgment on the practice, just wondering, since it seems to be an issue.) -- Essjay · talk 04:40, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
  • You're missing the point. Key is discounting innocent votes like ours in the process. Sorry, personally, I think that they should be thrown out because of certain subversives that shall (not) be named at this time... :) El_C 05:21, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate
A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:

1. What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? (Please read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.)
A. Giving credit where it's due is quite important to me, and I would like to be able to help clean up copyvios and cut & paste moves.
Due to the recent backlog on VfD, I have been closing some of the obvious keep and merge candidates; with sysop privileges I would be able to work on the rest of the discussions there, too.
I don't do very much RC patrol in the strict sense. Mostly I do 'second-line' cleanup—I look at articles on Special:Newpages a couple of pages in (about one hour old) and add appropriate stub, category, and cleanup tags. (I also do the cleanup myself in many cases.) There is still some vandalism that leaks through to this stage, and I try to put a dent in it. With a rollback button in my toolbar, I might be inclined to follow RC more closely.
2. Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
A. One of my most substantial (albeit early) efforts was on Second Chechen War. When I arrived via RfC, there had been serious content disputes, revert wars, and insertion of copyrighted material (before revision). Ultimately, I rewrote most of the article from scratch, and I'm quite pleased with the direction it's headed. It was a very educational experience, as I had only the barest familiarity with the topic to begin with.
I added quite a bit of material and cleanup to staining (biology). It, at least, is much closer to my own area of expertise, and it's shaping up nicely. I'm also happy with Onion dome and Albert Carnesale, two shorter articles which I 'saved' from VfD.
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A. I haven't been a party to any extremely heated conflicts, though I've certainly worked on articles where they've taken place. An emphasis on the article content and a gentle reminder not to get sidetracked by personal accusations and tangential debates can often defuse edit wars. A healthy dose of assuming good faith can often do wonders. If nothing else, being polite can shame obstreperous parties into behaving themselves.
As Everyking has noted above, the two of us don't see eye to eye on some aspects of ArbCom policy, action, and dispute resolution. Although we disagreed on some specific issues, I don't believe that our discussions were uncivil.
I was a bit sharp in my criticism of an action taken by Radiant! shortly after his own RFA. Shortly afterward, I realized that my words had been both hasty and harsh, and tendered an apology for the tone I had taken. I certainly hope there is no ill will remaining on that account.
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