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February 12[edit]

List of ACs, AOs, AMs and OAMs[edit]

I would like to compile a list of people who received the Order of Australia. I realise the list is by now quite massive, but where could we get the full list so I can create a subpage? I'm in particular interested in the breakdown by gender so I can contribute to the Women In Red initiative. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 06:41, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Go to Australian Honours Search Facility. Scroll down to Award Name, choose the level of the order you want, and hey presto. Then choose the next level and repeat. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 07:08, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest you read WP:LISTPEOPLE if you have not already done so.--Shantavira|feed me 09:31, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Which reminds me we have the following lists: List of Companions of the Order of Australia and List of Knights and Dames of the Order of Australia. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 19:56, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Google translate[edit]

Am I allowed to use Google translate to copy an article from german Wikipedia to English Wikipedia? 79.67.77.22 (talk) 12:07, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Translation and especially the section on machine translation. DuncanHill (talk) 12:11, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't someone ask this same question a few days ago? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:45, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, here: #Copy. Looks like the same OP.  --Lambiam 16:28, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, same subnet and both from near the same corner of England. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:56, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Anne Boleyn: Accused of incest, witchcraft, adultery and conspiracy - True or False?[edit]

Anne Boleyn, the second of Henry VIII's six wives was executed on charges of incest, witchcraft, adultery and conspiracy against the king. Were her accusations and the rumors about she entertaining, flirting and having sexual relations with Mark Smeaton, her brother George Boleyn, Henry Norris, Francis Weston and William Brereton true or false? 86.143.182.61 (talk) 21:51, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article says most of those charges are bogus. Keep in mind that her real "crime" was failure to produce a male heir. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:54, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Lady In The Tower: The Fall of Anne Boleyn by Alison Weir has a lengthy preview on Google Books and has plenty of detail on the background. Alansplodge (talk) 17:45, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
But on the other hand: Anne Boleyn was guilty of adultery, new biography claims - "Charges for which she was executed, long thought to have been cooked up, are likely to have been true, says historian George Bernard". Alansplodge (talk) 21:12, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Guilty or not guilty: why did Anne Boleyn have to die? by Suzannah Lipscomb tries to present both sides of the coin; "When it comes to Anne Boleyn’s fall, historians give their ‘best guess’ answers on the basis of the available evidence – which is too sparse to be conclusive. For my part, it is the final ‘cock-up theory’ that convinces me. I believe that Anne was innocent, but caught out by her careless words". Alansplodge (talk) 21:18, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do the final three episodes of the second season of The Tudors confirm that? 86.143.182.61 (talk) 20:23, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Was that show a documentary? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:21, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, it was a historical drama tv series. 86.143.182.61 (talk) 21:56, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was. So why would you assume anything presented as "fact" is supported by evidence? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:04, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So she and those men were in fact innocent and all the accusations against them were false? 86.128.175.30 (talk) 20:30, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Henry VIII acting dishonestly? Imagine that! ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:34, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody will ever know for sure. However, most modern historians conjecture that the accusations were false, the exception being George Bernard (linked above) who thinks otherwise. Alansplodge (talk) 10:08, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Having recently read G. J. Meyer's treatment on the subject, he was quite of the opinion that Anne was largely innocent of the charges levied against her, and felt it was quite within Henry's character to use such trumped-up charges to achieve his own ends. --Jayron32 13:15, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]