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April 8

how do i be the very best

like no one ever was? --129.126.97.170 (talk) 00:55, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

spend less time trolling Wikipedia, for starters. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:00, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

That's easy. Just give someone a lifetime of promises and a world of dreams, whilst speaking a language of love like you know what it means. Pleasure helping you. --Dweller (talk) Old fashioned is the new thing! 14:11, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Don't want to be a nitpicker, but any song sung by Bonnie Tyler or Tina Turner is extremely unlikely to include the word "whilst" in its lyrics (as sung by them)... -- AnonMoos (talk) 15:41, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

You could use the occasional upper case letter and some punctuation? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:23, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

If you wanna be the best, and you wanna beat the rest, Dedication's what you need. DuncanHill (talk) 16:48, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

• You need to learn how to sweep the leg. --Jayron32 17:32, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

"Good, better, best

Never let it rest

Till the good is better

And the better is best."

←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:44, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Abraham Adolf Kaiser to Jesse Owens

According to Google Translate editions of de:Abraham Adolf Kaiser and de:Jesse Owens#Olympische Spiele 1936, Kaiser was a German Jew who wrote an anonymous letter to Jesse Owens urging him to make a very public protest against Hitler at the Berlin Olympics in 1936. Has the text of this letter survived? Both articles rely on this PDF, which is apparently the text of a lecture by prominent historian de:Julius H. Schoeps, so I'm confident of the reliability of this account; however, neither article has the text of this letter, I'm not finding it with Google, and I don't know where I'd find German archival-type sources from the period. Nyttend backup (talk) 18:43, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

In 2019 Alexander Friedmann published a 17 page essay titled Der Duisburger Grundstücksmakler Adolf Abraham Kaiser, der US-Leichtathlet Jesse Owens und die Judenverfolgung im „Dritten Reich“ (The Duisburgian real estate agent Adolf Abraham Kaiser, the US athlete Jesse Owens and the persecution of the Jews in the Third Reich). The essay was published in Geschichte im Westen (History in the West) and might be available in the future through their website (they don't publish the three most recent issues online). The essay might provide some information about the letter and its provenance. I didn't find any contact details to reach out to Mr Friedmann directly, maybe the POC for the magazine Geschichte im Westen could help. A different approach could be to research the records of either the Sondergericht Düsseldorf (special court Düsseldorf) that prosecuted Mr Kaiser or the Gestapo. The records of the Sondergericht Düsseldorf are available through the State Archives of North Rhine-Westphalia. The records of the Gestapo are available through the State Archives of North Rhine-Westphalia as well. However further investigation is required to verify if the records hold any information about Mr Kaiser or - ideally - the letter in question. Regards, Christoph Braun (talk) 22:07, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Doris Wenban, artist

Can we find anything about Doris Wenban (b. 1914), the creator of the work auctioned here? An aparent study for it appears on this list (archive URL) She seems to have left no other trace on searchable websites. Presumably fl. in the UK. Maybe genealogical databases have something? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:53, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

No info about the artist, but a much better image of the work can be viewed by clicking on the first thumbnail here.  --Lambiam 22:34, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, same link as in the OQ.  --Lambiam 22:35, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Looks as if married Robert Dent ARCA, painter, etcher and administrator - Principal, Gloucestershire College of Art & Design (1950-1974), in Who's Who in Art 1986. Nothing more about her, though, including as Doris Dent. Davidships (talk) 21:24, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

@Davidships: Thank you. Some BMD records were also posted on my talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:10, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

I've compiled what we have so far, into an item on Wikidata: d:Q106426511. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:33, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

eBay has this postcard of kneelers at Gloucester Cathedral designed by Doris Dent Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:50, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Cueva de las Manos source request

Can someone kindly access this source and let me know what it says about Cueva de las Manos? The source is: Tang, Jin Bo. (2015). "The Hand in Art:“Hands” in the Artwork of Patagonia". Journal of Hand Surgery. 40 (4): 806–808. doi:10.1016/j.jhsa.2015.01.022. ISSN 0363-5023. Thank you! Tyrone Madera (talk) 21:44, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

After revealing that the logo of the Fortieth Congress of the Argentinian Hand Surgery Society, held 16–18 October 2014 in Buenos Aires, was laid out on a background depicting paintings from "La Cueva de las Manos", aka "the Cave of Hands", the author writes, This series of caves dating back to 8,000 years BC is located in Patagonia, south of the Perito Moreno in Santa Cruz province. The site is off the long and mysterious Argentinian Route 40 and is not easily accessible, with bumpy roads in some parts. However, all along Route 40, antiques, hands, and unique wildlife become themes for art. The remainder of the brief article is devoted to signalling depictions of images of cave paintings found on store logos and souvenirs found along the route.  --Lambiam 22:20, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Lambiam, Thank you! Tyrone Madera (talk) 01:30, 9 April 2021 (UTC)