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April 8[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 8, 2023.

BJay Pak[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Procedural close. This is now a requested move discussion. Jay 💬 10:10, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Subject’s name is properly spelled BJay, not B.J., as reflected throughout his biographical article and in all source links. But the main article title cannot be corrected with a simple Move, because there is also an extant redirect page with the name BJay.

So I believe that in order to fix this misspelling, the redirect page will need to first be deleted, so the main article can then be moved and a new redirect created. Ultimately, the main article needs to be Moved to “BJay Pak” while the redirect should be “B.J. Pak”. Lorencollins (talk) 23:22, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Lorencollins In this case, there are several options.
  • Propose a WP:RM on the page would be the primary option, as a page mover could move it if consensus is found.
  • If you are 100% sure the move couldn't reasonably be considered controversial, use WP:RMT for a technical move request OR
  • tag the redirect with {{Db-move}}, in order to speedily delete the redirect to facilitate the move (must be uncontroversial).
Although, looking at it, it doesn't look like it would be uncontroversial, so WP:RM is likely the best option.  – CityUrbanism 🗩 🖉 09:38, 9 April 2023 (UTC) struck per WP:STRIKESOCK Duckmather (talk) 04:28, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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WikiProject Iceland[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio giuliano 08:14, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cross-namespace redirect (WP:CNR), which should be deleted as it doesn't name a subject that even remotely could be the subject of a Wikipedia article.  – CityUrbanism 🗩 🖉 21:52, 8 April 2023 (UTC) struck per WP:STRIKESOCK Duckmather (talk) 04:28, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Sm.[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. There is a rough consensus for keeping the current target, even after appropriately weighting the weaker, late "Keep" rationale. (non-admin closure) Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 20:49, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This two-letter combination is too common to resolve to a taxonomic abbreviation of any one person. "Sm." is used to indicate "Smith" in dozens of author abbreviations, and can also refer to "Small" or the chemical element Samarium. BD2412 T 02:34, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to SM and add the abbreviations there -- 65.92.244.249 (talk) 07:53, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – Per the provided article, James Edward Smith and only he is referred to as "Sm." alone without specifying the first and/or middle name as an abbreviation or otherwise. This is standardised within taxonomy, so pure "Sm." without anything before it will always refer to James Edward Smith, making it unambiguous in a taxonomic context. The taxonomic definition of "Sm." also appears to be the primary topic, so the current target is preferable. The target article already links to SM (disambiguation) as well, though the list of taxonomic authorities named Smith can be added to the hatnote. Also note that this redirect is already used in a large quantity of botanical articles to refer to James Edward Smith, so any change to it would result in having to adjust all these articles. Randi Moth TalkContribs 07:58, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Adjusting existing links is part and parcel of the renaming process and is not a consideration. BD2412 T 11:49, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The other entries at List of taxonomic authorities named Smith are all WP:Partial title matches. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:04, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 20:49, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep, Sm. is the botanical abbreviation for James Edward Smith and is only an abbreviation for James Edward Smith. It is an identity, a triple bar, a ≡. The nominator is clearly operating under some sort of notion, where thought is required, and needs to never make such a nomination again. Abductive (reasoning) 08:39, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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To Assassinate a Mockingbird[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio giuliano 08:15, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Google shows me three results for this phrase, which suggests it's not a name that this novel's ever been known by or a plausible misnomer. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 18:42, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete doesn't seem to match the content of the story either -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 18:44, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Incredibly unlikely search term. Estar8806 (talk) 00:42, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Jake chudnow[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 15#Jake chudnow

List of J1 League football transfers 2023[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 22#List of J1 League football transfers 2023

Sheri Moon Cummings[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio giuliano 08:16, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The word "Cummings" is nowhere in the target article, leaving this redirect's existence to be a possible WP:BLP issue. Steel1943 (talk) 17:14, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Everything from searching the name up suggests that this originates from the German Wikipedia, where this was listed as an alternate name since the creation of the article in 2005 before being removed in a ce edit in 2009. The IP who has created the article provided their sources in the edit summary: IMDB and an article on about.com, blacklisted by the English Wikipedia. Neither source (preserved in the Wayback Machine for the second one) provides it as an alternate name. Randi Moth TalkContribs 19:35, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Randi Moth. Skynxnex (talk) 03:19, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Gareth Richards[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. Page is no longer a redirect. 192.76.8.84 (talk) 17:02, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gareth Richards is not Frank Skinner. Taking the name of a person who’s (apparently?) just died, and making it a redirect to a different person who’s still alive – especially a person in a field where pseudonyms are not uncommon, so readers might assume the two names refer to the same person after all – is IMHO much worse than a redlink. Galaktos (talk) 16:25, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is now a non-redirect stub article, so this discussion is no longer necessary. (Not sure what the right vote template for that is.) Galaktos (talk) 17:00, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Double "of" redirects[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio giuliano 08:16, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely due to double "of". Steel1943 (talk) 16:24, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Farm Entrepreneur[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 15#Farm Entrepreneur

Penide[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio giuliano 08:17, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is tagged as the alternative name of a sweet, the article of which does not mention this name. Penide is also name of a dam in Portugal mentioned in multiple articles, and a Spanish surname related to Peñate. I would recommend deletion if there is no better target or disambiguation. Jay 💬 14:45, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Agricultural Entrepreneur[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio giuliano 08:18, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

An entrepreneur is a person, not a farm. From a few searches it seems like this term most commonly refers to people who invent/innovate in the farming industry, and occasionally refers to the Farmers who run the businesses. I'm not sure that we have a good target for this, as it sees to have muliple meanings, agribusiness might be suitable? Otherwise this might be better deleting per WP:RFD#D10, to encourage article creation? 192.76.8.84 (talk) 14:39, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete not congruent topics. Agriculutral entrepreneurs can do non-farming activities, such as distribution or retail -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 04:52, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom., and also it is too vague and the capital letter makes it unhelpful. Veverve (talk) 22:49, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Cheery Littlebottom[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 22#Cheery Littlebottom

Template:G14[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Template:Db-g14. Pinging TartarTorte for updating the current uses template, as proposed. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 20:54, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think this should be retargeted to template:Db-g14, for consistency with {{G1}}, {{G2}}, {{G3}} ... {{G12}} {{G13}}. All these other G## redirects are speedy deletion related, and it's inconvenient/confusing to have one that behaves differently. This template redirect is currently used on three pages, so it wouldn't be a lot of work to remove it's current usages. 192.76.8.84 (talk) 14:29, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Template:Db-g14: Per nom and also that {{G6}}, {{G7}}, and {{G8}} target {{db-g6}}, {{db-g7}}, and {{db-g8}}, so with the G7/G8/G6 being relatively similar in name and likely higher up in terms of being well known, it would make sense for this to then target {{db-g14}}. I can change the current uses templates if it is a retarget, just ping me on close. TartarTorte 15:14, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:02, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget per nom. MusiBedrock (talk) 04:08, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Boomerang Austrailia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. As an unopposed deletion nomination. Jay 💬 09:24, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect is titled Boomerang Austrailia, and has a misspelt Australia. I think this redirect should be deleted because of the misspelling. Regards, TechGeek105 (his talk page) 08:49, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Yungur language[edit]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. signed, Rosguill talk 05:30, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently this is also an alternative name of Voro language (Adamawa). 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:05, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Bena–Mboi languages: Yungur appears to be an alternate name for this language branch, of which both Bena and Yoro are a part, as well as a number of others which are also linked from there. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:21, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Leave as is. It appears that this is an old name applied to Bena, with only Voro also occasionally called that, and we have a hat link. E.g. the ISO code is [yun], and Glottolog calls Bena and Voro together "Yungur-Voro", and according to Blench the derivatives Yangur and Yungirba are specifically Bena. Note also that "Bena" is also used for Voro. That is, the two languages are not always distinguished. It's not uncommon for a language name to spill over onto a closely related lect, esp. if it's sometimes considered a dialect of the same language or if the first language is regionally dominant and so taken as the default. So it would seem that [yun] is both "Bena proper" and "Yungur proper", with clarification needed if we mean Voro. In fact, it would seem that "Bena" is more ambiguous than "Yungur", as according to Blench it's also used for the next closest language, Lala.
Yes, Yungur is also a label for the branch, which is why Yungur languages plural is a rd there. But that's a common situation on WP and for the sg I think the hat note is sufficient. — kwami (talk) 20:45, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:59, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Notified of this discussion at the talk pages of Bena–Mboi languages, Voro language (Adamawa) and Yungur languages.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 07:48, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thomas Cruise[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Nominator didn’t provide a valid reason for deleting the redirect. (non-admin closure) Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 18:44, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Useless redirect. This redirect deserves to get speedy deleted ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 07:35, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete I never heard anyone ever call Tom Cruise "Thomas". Grorp (talk) 08:54, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: His full name is Thomas Cruise Mapother IV so calling Tom Cruise, "Thomas Cruise" isn't particularly odd to me. With regards to speedy delete, I can't find a WP:CSD that would apply to it. TartarTorte 15:09, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per TartarTorte. This name is a shortened form of "Thomas Cruise Mapother IV". I also don't see how this redirect fits any of the existing CSD criteria. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Tom is short for Thomas so I see this as plausible.--65.93.193.94 (talk) 16:38, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as the subject's real name. (I also find this a bit of an ironic nomination from the editor who created the possibly less useful Jeff Jorgensen, but eh it is what it is.) Steel1943 (talk) 17:03, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep per above. Subject's full name. This is certainly not a case for speedy deletion, but rather speedy keep. Estar8806 (talk) 00:44, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Military style[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 08:23, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

'Delete this is a highly vague newly created redirect. It can refer to many things that are similar to the military, or that are of the military. 64.229.90.172 (talk) 03:28, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete by all means. I created it from a list of requested redirects all to do with clothing and fashion, but out of that context it is indeed very vague. (You are supposed to notify creators of challenged redirects, by the way, but you did not notify me). Ingratis (talk) 03:50, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Wasn't sure if it's supposed to be you or the requestor. So I left the notice on the talk page of the redirect, which you might have watchlisted. -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 04:31, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nomination. Buckshot06 (talk) 00:10, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Disney Junior Dance Party![edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 15#Disney Junior Dance Party!

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