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November 28[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 28, 2022.

Unmentioned parodies of We Didn't Start the Fire[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 5#Unmentioned parodies of We Didn't Start the Fire

Fei Ngo Shan Road[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 5#Fei Ngo Shan Road

DVD coaster[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 5#DVD coaster

Super Sonic[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. signed, Rosguill talk 19:07, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I had decided to boldly redirect this redirect to Supersonic speed thinking that it was primary topic however Sergecross73 had reverted my edit saying that I “Might want to start a discussion on this.” Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 17:55, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - Yes, I reverted the change after an IP notified me of issues the change in target had caused in an article. I checked the page history to see that it had historically redirected to the character, not the concept. Something I'm leaning towards retaining. While "supersonic" should (and does) definitely redirect to supersonic speed, the redirect in question - Super Sonic (capitalized and with a space) - may be more likely to refer to the character. I think its more likely to be a correct spelling of the character than 2 typo'd version of the concept. Sergecross73 msg me 18:03, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This term with a space and capital "Sonic" is primarily used to refer to Sonic's transformation. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 18:44, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep but add a hatnote for people looking for supersonic speed. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 20:33, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Donald X. Vaccarino[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was moot due to article creation. signed, Rosguill talk 19:07, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete to encourage article creation, as he may well be notable enough for separate article. Dominion (card game) isn't his only notable game, as he also designed Kingdom Builder, so redirect to one game makes little sense Joseph2302 (talk) 17:23, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep as while he is likely notable for a standalone, until that is made, this is very much a usable search term. --Masem (t) 19:35, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm a bit confused. I agree a standalone should be made, but in that case, is it more proper to keep the current redirect or delete? The above two posts seem to contradict on this. Caleb Stanford (talk) 22:37, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Masem, as an article can always be built from the existing redirect and there is no purpose served for not having the redirect in the meantime. BOZ (talk) 13:19, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not too concerned about where it points. There once was an article, which has been moved to User:Jclemens/Donald X. Vaccarino. BOZ (talk) 15:37, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Close as moot as Caleb Stanford now has a reasonable stub in place. If it gets successfully AfD'ed (and this is a good argument that it should not be) then we can once again debate where the redirect should go. Jclemens (talk) 23:42, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Close as moot, seconded, nice work! Since some of the material from the new article (as noted on the talk page) was taken from User:Jclemens/Donald X. Vaccarino, which was a previous version of the article moved into user space, would it be best to do a history merge? BOZ (talk) 01:17, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • No objection to Histmerge, and whichever admin does that, please consider this a CSD-U1 request for my userspace copy of the article once it has been done. Jclemens (talk) 02:37, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      Seems reasonable. BOZ (talk) 11:39, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Classico[edit]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. N.b. this could have been done as a bold edit, rather than bringing to RfD signed, Rosguill talk 18:59, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest a dabification of this ambiguous term that could refer to quite a few different things. People searching up Classico could either want to know info about this, or the album, or the particular brand of pasta sauce owned by Kraft Heinz known as Classico. Colgatepony234 (talk) 16:38, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Chautauqua CARTS[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 5#Chautauqua CARTS

Egg custard[edit]

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The result of the discussion was target both to Custard. Jay 💬 18:52, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

These two redirects should point to the same article. In addition to their current targets, there is also egg tart as a possible target. eviolite (talk) 16:27, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Deb (talk) 16:28, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget all to Custard: As per the article on Custard, it is necessarily (or at least generally) cooked with egg, so targeting the more general custard makes sense in my eyes. TartarTorte 19:10, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget Egg Custard to Custard Custard is the main ingredient in a custard tart but not synonymous. WP:XY applies here. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:24, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Shiba Russell[edit]

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The result of the discussion was restored article and sent to AfD. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 22:09, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was at first going to retarget this to WTXF-TV, which is her current station, but this realistically just seems like a costly redirect, which is evidenced by how long it has pointed to a page that is the station she has not been at for what it seems 6 years and that only has a passing mention of her on the page. TartarTorte 15:43, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Redirect to WTXF-TV as she is mentioned there as a weeknight news co-anchor. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:48, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: To further explain my argument for nomination rationale for deletion is that this page proved itself to be WP:COSTLY with how long it took the redirect to be updated. I am not an oracle, and I cannot tell you if Shiba Russell will spend the rest of her entire career at WTXF-TV, but I can say anchors do tend to move around from station to station and with the lack of eyes on said redirects, they could often cause more harm than good. If this redirect is to not be deleted, it should certainly be retargeted to WTXF-TV. TartarTorte 20:09, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Well it WAS a stub article until boldly redirected by Aoidh in 2016. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 22:23, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm now split between deletion and restore and AfD. My concern with the latter is it's pretty much an entirely unsourced BLP if restored. TartarTorte 00:29, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Restore article and send to AfD per WP:BLAR. I think this is the best of course of action based on the background stated by the editors above. --Lenticel (talk) 10:20, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Restore and send to AFD seems like the best option here. Russell has been employed by multiple news stations, so retargeting would not be appropriate. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:31, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Multiple options but no agreement yet…
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 16:11, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I'm personally fine with send to AfD if that's how consensus seems to be going. To counter my previous argument, it is like that if there are any serious WP:BLP concerns those can be addressed quickly upon restoration. TartarTorte 16:18, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Stump Asteroid[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 18:54, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target, and mentioned in passing in at least 2 other TMNT articles. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:06, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If it should even exist as a redirect (and it's so obscure that it really doesn't need to at all), it should point to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Adventures, the only version of TMNT to include the location. But, as I said, being a relatively minor location from only one incarnation of the franchise that has zero article links pointing to it, it doesn't even need to exist. So delete. oknazevad (talk) 00:17, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Dust (Babylon 5)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 5#Dust (Babylon 5)

Cymru / Wales[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 17:43, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

These are redirects a bit odd. While Cymru is the Welsh name for Wales, it seems improbable to search in the Cymru / Wales format as opposed to just Cymru or Wales. It doesn't seem like the format of Redirect in Country's Main Language / Name of Country in English are extant for many other places that I can see, so it doesn't seem to be a widely used convention. The redirects themselves are both pretty infrequently used with 15 and 6 pageviews this year for Cymru / Wales and Cymru / wales respectively. TartarTorte 15:16, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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IBM 370[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 5#IBM 370

Freedom Ride[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 6#Freedom Ride

Bela River[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 6#Bela River

Shardul Singh Bakalawale[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 13:20, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

At their user talk page, creator Khalsa Mishima (talk · contribs) claimed that they were personally told by A.S. Khalsa that he has changed his legal name. I was unable to verify this, finding zero results for this name or "Shardul Singh" in connection to his organization Waris Panjab De. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:25, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The user added the name again, without a source. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:59, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, fails verification. Jay 💬 06:34, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Skill issue[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to User error#In subcultures. Refined current target. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 05:04, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, as this is a non-notable Internet meme not mentioned on the target page. An anonymous username, not my real name 04:04, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep as creator - The redirect itself is a good fit, as "skill issue" refers to a user error. The term is fairly widespread in gaming communities, though not enough to warrant its own page, so a redirect is appropriate here. The term is also covered on Wikitionary, and I've now added a sourced example of it to the target page via the "Acronyms and other names" section, which explains how the term is used in various subcultures. --Posted by Pikamander2 (Talk) at 06:21, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Refine to User error#In subcultures where (rightly or wrongly) this term is explained. A7V2 (talk) 07:41, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'll go ahead and point the redirect to that section. --Posted by Pikamander2 (Talk) at 11:48, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Refine per AtV2, and creator who also added the mention. Jay 💬 04:10, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Salmon and Trout[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 5#Salmon and Trout

Wikipedia:NOBR[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility#nobreaks. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 23:41, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't feel that this redirect's target is appropriate; the target page mentions nothing against the use of line breaks. Instead I propose that the redirect be retargeted to Wikipedia:Line breaks usage#Do not use single line breaks, which covers reasons against line breaks. XtraJovial (talk • contribs) 01:35, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's an essay though. Are you sure the intended purpose of NOBR is to say "don't use line breaks"? Perhaps the purpose is to link to "how to use line breaks"... in which case the current link target is appropriate? CapnZapp (talk) 13:13, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 01:39, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Fukuro[edit]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 22:59, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This was originally a dab that was later converted to a soft redirect to wiktionary; however, the redirect is essentially retargeting to a Japanese word that has two English meanings neither of which seem to be used particularly commonly in English. TartarTorte 01:29, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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