Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 29
July 29[edit]
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 29, 2022.
Organisation internationale de la Francophonie (OlF)[edit]
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- Organisation internationale de la Francophonie (OlF) → Organisation internationale de la Francophonie (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Organisation internationale de la Francophonie(OlF) → Organisation internationale de la Francophonie (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete both per unnecessary redundancy with the disambiguator stating a acronym for the subject's name. These redirects existence is like saying the redirects Automated teller machine (ATM) or Network interface card (NIC) should exist. In addition, the acronym isn't correct anyways: The second letter in both redirects' disambiguators is a lowercase "l" ("L"), not an uppercase "I" ("i"). (At the minimum, the latter redirect, Organisation internationale de la Francophonie(OlF), should be deleted per WP:RDAB due to the spacing issue between the title and the disambiguator, and since the properly-spaced variant exists [the former redirect in the nomination, Organisation internationale de la Francophonie (OlF)].) Steel1943 (talk) 23:41, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Delete bothDue to theI
versusl
issue, there's basically no chance that anyone is ever searching for or linking to these. --ais523 10:05, 30 July 2022 (UTC)- Speedy delete WP:CSD#G3 These are
redirects created by cleanup from page-move vandalism
(see this section of the page history). --ais523 10:11, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
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New New (song)[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 00:22, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- New New (song) → Empire (2015 TV series) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned on target. Richhoncho (talk) 23:18, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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Mazoki Lietuva[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 00:19, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Mazoki Lietuva → Lithuania Minor (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unlikely misspelling of foreign-language term Mažoji Lietuva; barely found online. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:17, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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Soft color & Hard color[edit]
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- Soft color → Contrast (vision) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Hard color → Contrast (vision) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The words "soft" and "hard" are not mentioned in the target article anywhere, leaving it unclear what these redirects are meant to refer. Steel1943 (talk) 21:27, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete both per nom. Terms are nowhere to be found at target nor anywhere else on Enwiki. CycloneYoris talk! 00:16, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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Tintt[edit]
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Unlikely misspelling. In addition, seems that this lettering as an acronym is used for quite a few organizations that appear when looking through third party search results; there could reasonably be readers searching for this expecting to find some sort of organization (but none of them seem to currently be mentioned on Wikipedia anywhere.) Also of interest regarding this redirect is that the creation of this redirect was 1 of 3 edits done by its creator in 2007, the editor only ever created the 3 edits in 2007; the other two edits were related to the creation of this redirect and seem somewhat vandalistic, in addition to the creator's user name ending with "ttt" (which seems unlikely to be a coincidence due to their edits.) Steel1943 (talk) 21:01, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Not a name variant. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:19, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 09:11, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
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Eric Blumrich[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 6#Eric Blumrich
Extreme prejudice[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was trainwreck. But at least some of these can be rerouted to more informative places.
- Extreme Prejudice will swap places with Extreme prejudice (disambiguation).
- Extreme prejudice will be retargeted to Extreme Prejudice (where a Wiktionary link box exists) when it becomes a dab.
- Terminate with extreme prejudice will be retargeted to Project GAMMA#Soldiers tried as it seems to provide the best encyclopedic info about the phrase.
- There is no consensus on what to do with the remaining three redirects. Soft redirect, retarget to Project GAMMA, and outright deletion were all thrown around with it remaining unclear what to go with. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 06:33, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
- Extreme prejudice → Summary execution (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Terminate with extreme prejudice → Summary execution (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Terminate, with extreme prejudice → Summary execution (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Terminate... with extreme prejudice → Summary execution (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- With extreme prejudice → Summary execution (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Extreme Prejudice → Summary execution (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This now redirects to Summary execution but there is no mention of "extreme prejudice" in that article, and it is not immediately obvious why it redirects there. Pinging @MB:. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:13, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to Extreme prejudice (disambiguation). I have been meaning to sort this out. "Extreme prejudice" is slang or jargon for summary execution or assassination, supposedly originating from the within the CIA. This should be added to the Summary execution article, with a source. However, the redirect at Extreme prejudice should probably be retargetted to Extreme prejudice (disambiguation), with the appropriate adjustments to the disambiguation page. Verbcatcher (talk) 10:27, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Verbcatcher: Extreme prejudice cannot redirect to Extreme prejudice (disambiguation) because that would be WP:MALPLACED: an appropriate option would be to move Extreme prejudice (disambiguation) (back) to Extreme prejudice. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:17, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Shhhnotsoloud:, you are probably correct. I wasn't clear on how this should be handled, which I why I held back from rearranging the redirects when I added the hatnote to Summary execution. The article on the film Apocalypse Now says that it introduced the film to phrase to the public, citing a paywalled New York Times page. Verbcatcher (talk) 15:48, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Verbcatcher: Extreme prejudice cannot redirect to Extreme prejudice (disambiguation) because that would be WP:MALPLACED: an appropriate option would be to move Extreme prejudice (disambiguation) (back) to Extreme prejudice. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:17, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Bundling 5 related. Courtesy pings @Shhhnotsoloud and Verbcatcher. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 11:56, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Terminate with extreme prejudice is a former stub that was redirected to Summary execution following AfD (though the closure did remark, "Or elsewhere as subsequent discussion may determine".) The full phrase is the more common manifestation of this usage, so it should either be kept as a redirect to Summary execution, or converted to a soft redirect to Wiktionary:terminate with extreme prejudice. All the long variants should follow the same. The case for Extreme prejudice is weaker; I'd agree with Verbcatcher and suggest to revert MB's bold move, restoring the disambig at Extreme prejudice. Failing that, the disambiguation should be at Extreme Prejudice (capitalised), as the WP:DIFFCAPS would indicate either of the fictional works to be the sought topic. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:47, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- To choose a position and clarify, Move disambig back to Extreme prejudice and retarget Extreme Prejudice there. Soft redirect Terminate with extreme prejudice to Wiktionary, and retarget the others there. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:40, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Keep or soft redirect the "Terminate" redirects?
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- As follows:
Terminate with extreme prejudice - Soft redirect to wikt:terminate with extreme prejudice per Paul.- The punctuation variants Terminate, with extreme prejudice and Terminate... with extreme prejudice, and a derivative With extreme prejudice, all created by the same user on the same day may be deleted, as unused with negligible page views.
- Extreme Prejudice - swap with Extreme prejudice (disambiguation) per Paul's initial choice.
- Extreme prejudice - Verbcatcher says he will add a mention at Summary execution, but it's not there now, and I don't feel it will stick if added, as WP:UNDUE weight. Hence Delete, or Soft redirect to wikt:extreme prejudice, or Retarget to the Extreme Prejudice dab. If deleted or retargeted, remove the entry of Extreme prejudice (although it's the primary topic) from the dab, and add wiktionary entry wikt:extreme prejudice to the dab, the phrase being the basis for the film and episode name. If Extreme prejudice is soft redirected to wikt, then the entry can be retained at the dab.
- Jay 💬 15:38, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- Terminate with extreme prejudice - redirect to Project GAMMA#Soldiers tried per Tavix. Extreme prejudice may also be retargeted there as a 4th choice (but not 4th in priority). Jay 💬 09:58, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget most to Project GAMMA#Soldiers tried where it is explained as the origination of the phrase, and hatnote. The disambiguation should be moved to Extreme Prejudice. -- Tavix (talk) 22:46, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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Salsa taquera[edit]
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- Salsa taquera → Salsa (Mexican cuisine) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Target "salsa" not mentioned in the article; it used to be on the page but not any more, I feel the redirect should be deleted. Colgatepony234 (talk) 20:08, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Colgatepony234: I'm not sure your statement is clear: "Salsa" is the name of the target article without a disambiguator. Did you mean "taquera" or the phrase "salsa taquera" is not mentioned in the target? Steel1943 (talk) 20:55, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- I meant the phrase is not mentioned in the target. Colgatepony234 (talk) 21:31, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom's clarification that the phrase "salsa taquera" is not mentioned in the target article, leaving it unclear why this redirect targets its target, in addition to readers looking up the redirect being led to a page with no information pertaining to the redirect's subject. Steel1943 (talk) 21:39, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete only mention in English Wikipedia is at corn smut, which would not make a good target. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 06:37, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
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GMU (disambiguation)[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was discussion moved to Talk:GMU#Requested move 29 July 2022. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 20:17, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Pageviews for George Mason University dwarf the ones for other dab entries; it can be assumed that most people searching English WP for GMU as also looking for the American university. GMU should redirect to George Mason University and this redirect should be the dab page. MB 20:01, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- @MB: Procedurally, this would actually be a move request; I'll create a move request here in a moment and ping you. Steel1943 (talk) 20:06, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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Avocado (color)[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 5#Avocado (color)
Ты ж мэнэ пидманула[edit]
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- Ты ж мэнэ пидманула → Ty zh mene pidmanula (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete. The Ukrainian name of this Ukrainian song is Ти ж мене підманула. Russian name is Ты ж меня обманула. Ты ж мэнэ пидманула is a very strange beast: this is the Ukrainian name of the song, but written in Russian orthography (spelling). Who on Earth whould type this? Крывіч (talk) 09:14, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Крывіч: I'm a bit lost here on what you mean by this. Are you saying that the redirect is a combination of two different languages? Steel1943 (talk) 00:10, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- The song is called Ти ж мене підманула in Ukrainian; however, someone created this redirect with a Russian spelling. Russian and Ukrainian have a different alphabet (the Ukrainian alphabet includes і and є that are not present in the Russian alphabet whereas Russian has ы and э which are not in the Ukrainian alphabet). Correspondingly, someone spelled this Ukrainian phrase using Russian orthography. The Ukrainian phrase as spelled in Russian is meaningless in Russian itself. TartarTorte 02:04, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: While not explicitly WP:RLOTE as it's not English, using the Russian spelling (replacing і with и and и with ы) is a bizarre Russification of a Ukrainian song title. TartarTorte 01:57, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per TartarTorte, which answers my question regarding this redirect being a mashup of different languages. That leaves this redirect highly implausible in any language. Steel1943 (talk) 06:49, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as unlikely spelling at best --Lenticel (talk) 10:52, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete this second-foreign-language transcription of a foreign-language title. Making this practice routine means tens of thousands of cross-language redirects for every single title. —Michael Z. 14:02, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I agree with Michael Z and would vote to delete or keep if I knew whether the Russian name were more common, or common enough. If the Russian is frequently used why not keep it? I think you can find this to be non-controversial and maybe common. I can't think of many examples, but if you know how to look for redirects to a page, Auld Lang Syne is one. Louis Waweru Talk 19:44, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
- I think that you did not understand the point. Ты ж мэнэ пидманула is not the Russian name. It if perfectly OK to have redirect from Russian (or Belarussian, or French etc) name of the song, but Russian name of the song is Ты ж меня обманула. Ты ж мэнэ пидманула is the Ukrainian name spelled using Russian orthography. --Крывіч (talk) 07:06, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, you read me right. Thank you for explaining (again). I support your delete as well. Louis Waweru Talk 23:26, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- I think that you did not understand the point. Ты ж мэнэ пидманула is not the Russian name. It if perfectly OK to have redirect from Russian (or Belarussian, or French etc) name of the song, but Russian name of the song is Ты ж меня обманула. Ты ж мэнэ пидманула is the Ukrainian name spelled using Russian orthography. --Крывіч (talk) 07:06, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete As is, it is incorrect from any perspective, and maybe misleading. Radzy0 (talk) 18:01, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per Крывіч (talk) 3:06 am, August 2 (UTC−4) and Michael Z. Louis Waweru Talk 23:28, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Apocalypse[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 5#Template:Apocalypse
Male (gender)[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 5#Male (gender)
Khaka[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Ayabonga Khaka. Nominally no consensus, defaulting to retarget in the absence of any support for keeping the status quo. signed, Rosguill talk 16:30, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
Multiple possible targets: Khakha (where it currently links), Khakas (plural of Khaka) and Ayabonga Khaka. Not sure what best target is, either to Khakas or DAB page seems sensible. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:19, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Disambiguate. There is not going to be a clear primary target for a possible spelling error for multiple targets. BD2412 T 22:51, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to Ayabonga Khaka as {{R from surname}} and hatnote for any spelling errors. Correct spellings should take precedent over misnomers. In particular, Khakas is singular; the final s is not the English plural marker. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 07:42, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete and let Search do its job: this redirect is currently getting in the way. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:55, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Shhhnotsoloud: I have no faith in Search doing the job, particularly where there are likely close spelling variations to consider. BD2412 T 06:02, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Retarget, delete, or DAB?
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- Retarget to Ayabonga Khaka — Tazuco ✉️ 01:14, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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Mint (credit cards)[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 5#Mint (credit cards)
2014 Ukrainian Civil War[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 5#2014 Ukrainian Civil War
List of current Star Magic artists[edit]
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- List of current Star Magic artists → Star Magic (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This subject was originally nominated for deletion under AfD last October 2021. Explicit closed the AfD as delete on November 2021 and a days later after the AfD was closed, it was re-created as redirect. There is no sense that this subject will be redirected to Star Magic that the title "artists" of this subject has no connection within the said target. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 00:31, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - No such list at the article. Redirect can be recreated if such a list is appropriate and is added. A7V2 (talk) 01:31, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 10:06, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
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American Vulture[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to New World vultures. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:06, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- American Vulture → Neophrontops (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Seems like an ambiguous redirect to me. Most people would probably be thinking of New World vultures rather than this obscure extinct genus Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:02, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- I think that was the common name used by the La Brea tar pits museum (in a list of taxa found there). I don't think it should get deleted, but could redirect elsewhere if necessary. FunkMonk (talk) 14:05, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to New World vulture. People who search this term are more likely looking for New World vultures rather than the obscure extinct genus. 47.132.83.21 (talk) 15:48, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
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Magnesium-L-threonate[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 5#Magnesium-L-threonate