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June 25[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 25, 2020.

Assmar[edit]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) pandakekok9 (talk) Junk the Philippine anti-terror law! 10:49, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

An unlikely misspelling of the target, Assmar is also both a given name and a surname. I would thus suggest deletion. signed, Rosguill talk 18:47, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not a misspelling per se. This form is used by a (child) character in Lord of the Flies. But there are only three uses on Wikipedia, and Eduardo Assmar at List of senators in Brazil is the only one I'd say definitely meets WP:DABMENTION. Francisco de Melo is listed as a Count of Assmar, though his own article gives him as Count of Assumar. I don't know if the former is a misspelling or a valid alternate form. D&D has an Aasimar race. I'm leaning delete—these scraps don't add up to a disambiguation page. --BDD (talk) 18:56, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Doesn't seem to be enough for a surname page or a dab page. The Lord of the Flies mention gets some google hits, but mostly on urban dictionary and the like. Hog Farm (talk) 03:08, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep or DAB. I surprise myself but saying it, but "assmar" does seem like a plausible phonetic transcription of "asthma" such as might be made by someone who doesn't know the spelling. I come across a surprising amount of people who don't know the spelling for the names of medical conditions and so resort to crude transcriptions or "egg corn" interpretations, such as Alzheimers as "old-timers" or Asperger's as "assburgers", even independently from different people on social media. Given this, it does not seem implausible that someone might type "assmar" into a search bar if they did not know the correct spelling. Given this, as redirects are cheap, it might as well remain unless there's an actual topic that warrants its own page, such as one of the names mentioned above if they are notable. BlackholeWA (talk) 03:20, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • We need the redirect to stay now. This is a title in LOTF. We need it so someone thinking of LOTF doesn't get confused. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bernspeed (talk • contribs) 20:26, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disambiguate Definitely not a strong retarget for asthma... at best, disambiguate with asthma maybe being one of the options. --Micky (talk) 23:11, 19 June 2020 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 20:56, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Jules César[edit]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:27, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect has a smell of WP:RFFL. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:57, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Sannata (2013 film)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 19:37, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is a something of a puzzle. Sannata is a 1981 film, and there's no sign of a remake. Sannata (TV series) aired in 2014, and wasn't a film. IMDb lists no 2013 film. Saba Qamar and Sajal Aly link to Sannata (2013 film); but neither has an IMDb entry. Delete, before my head explodes. Narky Blert (talk) 19:23, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is an R with history. The original stub was clearly about the TV series, which appears to have begun in 2013. Retarget to Sannata (TV series) or delete as misnamed. --Paul_012 (talk) 21:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. No film with this title was released in 2013, and I personally don't see any significant page history as stated above; original stub was created in 2017 by a user who was blocked indefinitely. CycloneYoris talk! 22:19, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Vashikaran[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 19:36, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No mention in article 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 18:51, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Lumbar support[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. FWIW, Lumbar support is almost certainly a notable subject in its own right. signed, Rosguill talk 19:36, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No mention in article 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 18:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Next Thai general election[edit]

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The result of the discussion was converted to article. (non-admin closure) Pandakekok9 (talk) 08:10, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The 2019 election has taken place, and discussion of the next election would be WP:CRYSTAL at this point, so there isn't an appropriate target. Paul_012 (talk) 18:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've converted Next Thai general election into an article and retargeted the other one there. There is already some opinion polling data, and next election articles are not generally considered WP:CRYSTAL violations. Number 57 19:30, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Faqash[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:42, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing in the target article discusses this term. I looked at the target article at the time this redirect was created, Faqash was not mentioned in that version either. I do not see any reason for this redirect. ~ GB fan 17:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy delete per WP:G10 as an attack page. This article and this Reddit post explain the term, based on them the context of this redirect seems to be an vulgar insult to the target. I can find only two other uses of the term on Wikipedia - both in comments left in 2016 that were interpreted as personal attacks (one at SPI, one on a user talk page) so we have nowhere to retarget it and there is no entry at Wiktionary either. While a dictionary definition would certainly be possible, encyclopaedic content would be harder and might need to be in a section of the article about Siad Barre or his regime, and given the usage of the term both would be best written by someone who is familiar with both the term and the topic area. So all that said I think speedy deletion as an attack page is best until we get content. Thryduulf (talk) 17:41, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete per WP:G10 per Thryduulf. The top two hits in a Google search (non-WP:RS) were 1 (Urban Dictionary) and (2) 2 (Reddit), and they leave me in no doubt that the word is an ethnic slur. Narky Blert (talk) 18:09, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Saffa[edit]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:38, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

According to an IP, it is a colloquial word to mean South African people. However, it is nowhere mentioned on the article, even on the Demographics of South Africa. I suggest deletion. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 15:43, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:ONESENTENCEISNOTABLE[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 19:34, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Section does not exist any more. See also Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 November 11#WP:ONESENTENCENOTABLE 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:43, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:STATUTE[edit]

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EJD[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:37, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

EJD is not mentioned anywhere on the target, it might refer to a former name "Edward Jones Dome", but that doesn't appear in google search results that I've seen so it's a guess. The prominent google hits are for European Joint Doctorate, European Junior Doctors Association and European Journal of Dermatology all of which might be notable but don't have articles along with a secondhand car dealership in Sheffield that is almost certainly not notable. On Wikipedia Ernst-Jürgen Dreyer, Elias Judah Durand and Edward John Drake appear in search results but may or may not be notably known by their initials? I'm not sure what is best here? Thryduulf (talk) 13:06, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete and let Search function uninhibited, since there is no clear target or scope for disambiguation. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:44, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I can't find anything appropriate for a target, either. Without a clear statement in those biographical articles that the individual was known as "EJD", I'd be reluctant to point it to any of them.—Ketil Trout (<><!) 15:26, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Syllable structure[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Syllable#Components. per Thryduulf. (non-admin closure) Pandakekok9 (talk) 11:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The "Structure" section does not exist in the article. I suggest deletion. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 08:17, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Syllable. 18 articles already link to the redirect and more likely will. Syllable discusses syllable structure, so Syllable structure should redirect there. No-brainer. Nardog (talk) 09:53, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Also fine with rerefining as suggested below. Nardog (talk) 16:22, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unrefine to Syllable] per Nardog or Update to Syllable#Components, what the "Structure" section was renamed to in 2015 [1]. Thryduulf (talk) 12:03, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rerefine to (the renamed) Syllable#Components (1st choice), which discusses the structure of syllables in languages, or unrefine (2nd choice), as the other sections also discuss it to some degree. Regards, SONIC678 02:07, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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3 Originals[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 19:33, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We don't mention the target anymore, I redirected all Rick Astley compilation albums to it's discography page, I shall suggest delete for the redirect target. Universal Music in Netherlands has their releases of 3 Originals in Dutch market in late 90s. 2600:6C4E:580:A:D46F:987F:F800:B84C (talk) 07:58, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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C Stock[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:31, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The first redirect was a disambiguation page. There are 2 articles that used to be listed : London Underground C69 and C77 Stock and London Underground C Stock. The page was redirected to London Underground C69 and C77 Stock (for a second time) with edit summary "Most users will be looking for the more recent type of rolling stock, secondly, consisent with the D Stock article, which redirects to London Underground D78 Stock". That may be true, but appears to be inconsistent with current article titles. My opinion, repeated from the first time I reverted the change from a disambiguation page to a redirect, is that it doesn't seem reasonable to redirect this title to the one of the two entries that doesn't have "C stock" in the title. The second redirect under discussion is a similar situation. Perhaps some article renaming, and certainly hatnotes, would help? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:22, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep These redirects should be kept because 1) most readers will be interested in the more recent type of subsurface rolling stock and 2) two articles is really not enough to make a disambiguation page, as MRSC stated: [2]. It also keeps it consistent with S Stock, which redirects to London Underground S7 and S8 Stock. C2A06 (About • Talk • Edits) 08:50, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep "C stock" and "D stock" were and indeed still are the common names for these trains as noted in the very first sentence of both articles. Trains used 1970-2014 (C69/77) and 1980-2017 (D78) to transport millions of people every day are much more likely to be searched than the trains in service 1910-1959 (C) or 1912-1958 (D), especially since the two latter were reclassified as H stock in the 1940s and confined to light branch-line duties after the early 1950s. Thryduulf (talk) 12:10, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reinstate as disambiguation page, should be returned to being disambiguation page rather than only pointing to one article as was the case for 13 years until recently changed. Neither is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Same should also apply to D Stock, S Stock and any other LU rollingstock where a classification has been recycled. Lochinaness (talk) 02:45, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I disagree with reinstating as disambiguation pages. C69/77 Stock, D78 Stock and S7/S8 Stock (the more modern types of rolling stock) are the primary topic since they are most likely to be searched compared to the original District/Metropolitan railway rolling stock.
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Konzlager[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 18:58, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Non-standard, unusual German abbreviation of Konzentrationslager. Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. buidhe 05:06, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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WWII concentration camps[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 4#WWII concentration camps

Nazi slave labor camp[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 6#Nazi slave labor camp

List of Nazi camps that detained Poles[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 6#List of Nazi camps that detained Poles

Übergangslager[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. In addition to the arguments raised below, it's worth noting that Scholar results show cases of this word being used to describe refugee camps, in addition to Nazi camps. signed, Rosguill talk 19:30, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

IDK exactly what this means, but it's certainly not discussed in the target article. buidhe 04:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. German WP has no article or redirect. This looks to me like a misnomer for de:Konzentrationslager#Durchgangslager, a type of transit camp. Narky Blert (talk) 07:28, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete It's a synonym more than a misnomer, but yeah, "transit camp", is a reasonable translation. That said, being a non-English word, without the word being discussed in the article, it's not a helpful redirect.—Ketil Trout (<><!) 16:00, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Transitcamp[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Transit camp. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:05, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely formulation, not mentioned at target. buidhe 04:55, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Mallu Arjun[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:09, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused as to what this redirect is referring to. I don't know of any sources that use this alternate name for this person. Jalen Folf (talk) 03:30, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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